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September 24th, 2012
02:09 AM ET

Sunni Islam leader calls for peace, urges Muslims to have 'patience and wisdom'

From Ian Lee and Mohamed Fadel Fahmy, CNN

A leading figure in the Sunni Islam world called for fellow believers to respond to recent controversial portrayals of Mohammed - which he said "spread hatred" - just like the prophet himself would, "through patience and wisdom."

The Grand Mufti of Egypt Ali Gomaa spoke to CNN as Muslims staged yet more passionate protests Saturday in yet more locales, from Germany to Lebanon to Bangladesh, as they have since September 11. Demonstrators railed against an obscure, 14-minute trailer for a film that mocks Mohammed as a womanizer, child molester and killer - as well as the country in which it was privately produced, the United States - and more recently a French satirical magazine's cartoons of a figure representing Mohammed.

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- A. Hawkins

Filed under: Islam

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  1. .

    Islam has wisdom? Where? Because Moo-ham-ed said so?

    October 2, 2012 at 3:53 pm |
  2. Binra

    Arguments with yourself can be pictured in the world – as the world. As the experience of self over and against a world – over and against an other.
    But you cannot argue with yourself – a fiction can only argue with a fiction.
    What is it to awaken from the arguments of a two-ness that is not in fact true?
    No longer identifying with point of view?

    This invitation is not the invitation to construct or to assert or to think, though the mind will persist as the construct of a polarized experience for as long as it is given your attention.

    That which Is you, Is That which Knows itself in All Things One.
    The ways in which the fictional self gives way to the truth are innumerable. Enjoy your experience as experience, but do not confuse it with truth.

    Truth is not defined or determined by a mind or minds in agreement. That is a kind of game in which and by which truth is temporarily forgotten amidst the engagement and distraction of an identification with one's own thinking.

    The identification with one's own thinking is the 'self' that wars. What is it to release all such thinking and let truth be known in its own terms, as its own unadulterated 'knowing'?

    It is what the mind will refuse to do as long as it can maintain a condition of unconsciousness or darkness in which to 'operate'. None of which is evil in its original curiosity, but which allows a dissonance of evil or 'anti-life' to express as the wilful sacrifice of truth in order that illusion prevail in its stead.

    Ultimately, to do what we do not want, hurts. Waking to realize we are hurting ourself, releases the defences against knowing what it is that we do. Defences against love are thinking.

    Thinking creates a personal experience of a coercive or assertive nature. This seems to meet opposition because for every action, there is an opposite reaction. To focus upon the surfaces of forms and the meanings you give them, is to set attention away from the awareness of the choice you are making. But it is running as your choice, in your name and giving you your experience, whether you know it or not.
    Thoughts that are accepted and believed without the consciousness of the heart's discernment do not know You; do not extend You, or share You.
    Lonely is pain of an unshared heart.
    Beneath the overlay of thought and its experience in time, You are all that You are – and have not become something 'else', separated or conflicted.
    The identification with guilt and fear is a very tricky mind that cannot be beaten, but can be disregarded.
    What we appreciate – or give attention to, appreciates. By following the true desire of the heart, conflict is starved of support. It fades and its perspective fades as a condition of unconsciousness in which to dream its endless re enactments of loss and vengeance.
    You are welcome. You have never been unwelcome to your true heart. Discern the nature of the thought that says you are unworthy of love's awareness now. Is it the freedom that it suggests to you? Or is it the freedom to think alone and apart as a 'power' all by yourself. There are more fulfilling expressions of your true nature!

    In Peace

    Brian

    September 28, 2012 at 4:27 am |
  3. testing 123

    sek

    September 25, 2012 at 2:41 pm |
  4. testing 123

    [b]bold[/b]

    September 25, 2012 at 2:39 pm |
  5. testing 123

    [s]hello[/s]

    September 25, 2012 at 2:38 pm |
  6. Atheism is Great for Kids and Grown-Ups Too!

    It's really best for all people including children to have an agnostic approach to god, and an atheistic approach to all religion. It keeps things simple for kids, and lets them be all that they can be. They just need to be taught that some things, like all religion, were just made up by salesmen and politicians from long ago. (Yes, charlatan folklore and spam started long before the Bible; what would make you think they hadn't?) And they need to be taught that other things, like God, we really don't know a damn thing about.

    Atheists have strong minds and don't need a religion. Many religious folk have the best intentions. But too often, religious folk run and hide their misdeeds within their religion (and by doing so, they disserve society). And too often, religious folk are easily offended when someone mocks their make-believe characters – and, as we can see they can get really CRAZY!

    Although there are many religious folk with good intentions – some selflessly helping others, religions and religious organizations are, as a whole, just big old clubs – each trying to out do each other and inspiring hate and division (often disguised as love) along the way. The problem is that people too easily buy into religion and don't realize how unfounded it all is. And when they buy into it, they buy into a lot of really old, really weird tenets that are nothing but harmful for the human species.

    Take Christianity, for instance. Just look at all the things that Christians argue about amongst themselves today – abortion, men's and women's roles in the church, celibacy, contraception, acceptance of gays, etc. Most of these issues have their roots in the conflicted, unfounded tenets of early Christianity. Non-Mormons harp on Joseph Smith these days. But we really don't have any more proof at all to believe that Paul, the self-proclaimed "apostle" was anything more than an ordinary man who needed to make up religious "sales literature" to survive and spread his own personal beliefs. And yet a good chunk of the NT is attributed to Paul and accepted by many Christians. And a lot of what he wrote about has to do with many of the issues I mentioned above that have Christians fighting amongst themselves hundreds of years later. It's way too unfounded to argue over.

    Get a good cup of tea, and sit down and collect your thoughts. If you find it helpful to pray to a god, fine. But it is really healthier for the mind to leave behind all the characters that people over the centuries have invented or given powers to, for which there is little or no foundation. Because with those invented characters and powers – that's where division and hate join the little party in your mind. That's where, in your mind, you are inheriting the division and hate from ordinary politicians, lobbyists and salesmen from long ago. My goodness.

    mama kindless

    September 25, 2012 at 7:36 am |
  7. 19_19

    AL-LAH is the one and only true GOD of all Universe/Universes and whatever in them;
    AL-LAH is the one and only true GOD of Abraham, Ishmael, Moses, Jesus, David, Muhammad;
    AL-LAH is the one and only true GOD of all people!

    Here are the most Solid and Clear ultimate "Mathematical Proofs:"

    http://www.holy-19-harvest.com
    UNIVERSAL MAGNIFICENT MIRACLES

    September 25, 2012 at 6:28 am |
    • .

      Allah-la-la -boop- de- doo-doo. Is a figment of imagination and Moo-ham-ed is its lackey

      October 2, 2012 at 3:56 pm |
  8. Theen Allah Fat Mullah (the original hinduism source.....)

    Mufti himself is an honorable man, because being suni (Sue-Knee for Americans), established on path of truth absolute GAWD is part of Sufi ism and one of the commandment of truth absolute, GAWD the merciful, all of commandments of Theen Allah, are reference to way of Sufi's followers of truth absolute. So is word Shea (See-Ya for Americans) or Shiit (C-hit for Americans), meaning nothing but to be problems, of a person, in reference to following of certain person or a path. an adjective not a noun or verb. Commanded is following of what is commanded in, Torah, Gita, Bible, Kuran (coo-Ran for American), path of truth absolute GAWD, quantified and living by example of Hindu, limits, truth as Jesus as he lived and explained. Time to understand truth of Sufi ism, Theen Allah, true consti pation of truth absolute, teaching's of Fat Mullah the merciful and get out of Wahhabi ism, corruption of truth absolute religion's, relegated not by commandments of Theen Allah or Fat Mullah, the merciful but Hindu Kings' and their Hindu Jew self motivated advisory's, such as S'UNI and See-Ya, based not on truth absolute but Islamist, corruption of truth absolute to justify existence of Hindu King's, truth absolute in following of Hindu Mithra ism, savior ism of Hindu pagan original GOD. Get rid of divide of Hindu, Jews, Christian, Muslims or criminal atheist ISM"S as religion's and work to unite not just Hindus, Jews, Christians, Muslim's but whole humanity under umbrella of GOD truth absolute for peace, among humanity. To know more please visit TheenAllahFatMullah.com/blog.html and click on word Mufti on website to open file.

    September 24, 2012 at 11:32 pm |
  9. Reality

    A general slap down of all religions: (only for new members of this blog)

    As THE INFAMOUS ANGELIC CONS CONTINUE TO WREAK STUPIDITY UPON THE WORLD

    Joe Smith had his Moroni. (As does M. Romney)

    "Latter-day Saints like M. Romney also believe that Michael the Archangel was Adam (the first man) when he was mortal, and Gabriel lived on the earth as Noah."

    Jehovah Witnesses have their Jesus /Michael the archangel, the first angelic being created by God;

    Mohammed had his Gabriel (this "tin-kerbell" got around).

    Jesus and his family had/has Michael, Gabriel, and Satan, the latter being a modern day demon of the demented. (As does Obama and his family)(As does Biden and Ryan)

    The Abraham-Moses myths had their Angel of Death and other "no-namers" to do their dirty work or other assorted duties.

    Contemporary biblical and religious scholars have relegated these "pretty wingie/horn-blowing thingies" to the myth pile. We should do the same to include deleting all references to them in our religious operating manuals. Doing this will eliminate the prophet/profit/prophecy status of these founders and put them where they belong as simple humans just like the rest of us.

    September 24, 2012 at 11:20 pm |
    • Truth

      The pretty wingged thingys you refer to were Seraphim and they sit around the thrown of God Singging praise to the most high. Michael, Gabriel, and Satan are the only Archangles mentioned by name in the bible. Satan being the most beautifull and powerfull creature God ever created. His name meaning light. He sought to over throw God and reign in his stead. But was defeated and cast out of Heaven.

      September 25, 2012 at 3:43 am |
    • Reality

      Some added references to "tink-erbells".

      newadvent.org/cathen/07049c.htm

      "The belief in guardian angels can be traced throughout all antiquity; pagans, like Menander and Plutarch (cf. Euseb., "Praep. Evang.", xii), and Neo-Platonists, like Plotinus, held it. It was also the belief of the Babylonians and As-syrians, as their monuments testify, for a figure of a guardian angel now in the British Museum once decorated an As-syrian palace, and might well serve for a modern representation; while Nabopolassar, father of Nebuchadnezzar the Great, says: "He (Marduk) sent a tutelary deity (cherub) of grace to go at my side; in everything that I did, he made my work to succeed."

      Catholic monks and Dark Age theologians also did their share of hallu-cinating:

      "TUBUAS-A member of the group of angels who were removed from the ranks of officially recognized celestial hierarchy in 745 by a council in Rome under Pope Zachary. He was joined by Uriel, Adimus, Sabaoth, Simiel, and Raguel."

      And tin-ker- bells go way, way back:

      "In Zoroastrianism there are different angel like creatures. For example each person has a guardian angel called Fravashi. They patronize human being and other creatures and also manifest god’s energy. Also, the Amesha Spentas have often been regarded as angels, but they don't convey messages, but are rather emanations of Ahura Mazda ("Wise Lord", God); they appear in an abstract fashion in the religious thought of Zarathustra and then later (during the Achaemenid period of Zoroastrianism) became personalized, associated with an aspect of the divine creation (fire, plants, water...)."

      "The beginnings of the biblical belief in angels must be sought in very early folklore. The gods of the Hitti-tes and Canaanites had their supernatural messengers, and parallels to the Old Testament stories of angels are found in Near Eastern literature. "

      "The 'Magic Papyri' contain many spells to secure just such help and protection of angels. From magic traditions arose the concept of the guardian angel. "

      For added information see the review at:

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel

      September 25, 2012 at 7:57 am |
  10. Milleennium3

    Respect prophet Muhammad, because he is a true Prophet of a real GOD.
    Moses and Jesus came from Abraham, and Muhammad from Ishmael.
    He is the ancestor of the long awaited and anticipated Messiah and Mahdee, who is to come in this Last Day (Millennium), together with prophet David.
    Here is the ultimate proof:

    http://www.holy-19-harvest.com
    UNIVERSAL MAGNIFICENT MIRACLES

    September 24, 2012 at 9:01 pm |
    • Reality

      origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482 NY Times review and important enough to reiterate.

      New Torah For Modern Minds

      “Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. (prob•a•bly
      Adverb: Almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell).

      The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

      Such startling propositions - the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years - have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity - until now.

      The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine doc-ument.

      The notion that the Bible is not literally true "is more or less settled and understood among most Conservative rabbis," observed David Wolpe, a rabbi at Sinai Temple in Los Angeles and a contributor to "Etz Hayim." But some congregants, he said, "may not like the stark airing of it." Last Passover, in a sermon to 2,200 congregants at his synagogue, Rabbi Wolpe frankly said that "virtually every modern archaeologist" agrees "that the way the Bible describes the Exodus is not the way that it happened, if it happened at all." The rabbi offered what he called a "LITANY OF DISILLUSION”' about the narrative, including contradictions, improbabilities, chronological lapses and the absence of corroborating evidence. In fact, he said, archaeologists digging in the Sinai have "found no trace of the tribes of Israel - not one shard of pottery."

      September 24, 2012 at 11:21 pm |
    • Reality

      3. Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.

      This agenda continues as shown by the ma-ssacre in Mumbai, the as-sas-sinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, the Ft. Hood follower of the koran, and the Filipino “koranics”.

      And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.

      Current crises:

      The Sunni-Shiite blood feud (e.g. Syria and also Iraq) and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder.

      September 24, 2012 at 11:23 pm |
    • End Religion

      All religion is a fraud. If you suffer from a brand of this delusion, it is no better than any other.
      .

      September 24, 2012 at 11:45 pm |
  11. Sam Yaza

    Axis =America/Israel/UK
    and
    Allies = Iran/Russia/China

    lest face it who ever sided with Israel is obviously the Axis, genocide is unexceptionable. Free Palestine
    and all Iran wants is to be free, to be able to make their own decisions

    September 24, 2012 at 8:45 pm |
  12. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things.

    September 24, 2012 at 6:48 pm |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs! ^

      September 24, 2012 at 6:56 pm |
    • hal 9001

      I'm sorry, "Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things", but your assertions regarding atheism and prayer are unfounded. The degree to which your assertions may represent correct statements is 0.0. To help you understand the degree to which your assertions may represent correct statements, I will access my Idiomatic Expression Equivalency module (IEE). Using my IEE module, the expression that best matches the degree to which your assertions may represent correct statements is: "TOTAL FAIL".

      I see that you repeat these unfounded statements with high frequency. Perhaps the following book might help you overcome this problem:

      I'm Told I Have Dementia: What You Can Do... Who You Can Turn to...
      by the Alzheimer's Disease Society

      September 24, 2012 at 9:09 pm |
    • hal and Jesus - what a crazy pair.

      Good little hal/Jesus. Saying the same shlt over and over, hoping that some poor impressionable person actually believes him. Oh well. At least he's towing the party line, even if it's the only propagandist way he knows how. That's ok, hal/Jesus. The party needs good little worker bees like you too. Not everyone is qualified to sit at the Bilderberg's table.

      September 24, 2012 at 11:56 pm |
    • Huh?

      "Good little hal/Jesus. Saying the same shlt over and over, hoping that some poor impressionable person actually believes him."

      If the stupid troll Atheism...didn't posting the same crap over and over again they wouldn't respond, so Athesim... troll's posts are useless, just like you stated.

      September 25, 2012 at 10:54 am |
  13. Religion is Not Heathly for children or ANY living things

    Sunni Islam leader calls for "peace, patience and wisdom"... Immediately after we KILL ALL INFIDELS!...

    September 24, 2012 at 6:23 pm |
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