By Alan Miller, Special to CNN
Editor’s note: Alan Miller is Director of The New York Salon and Co-Founder of London's Old Truman Brewery. He is speaking at The Battle of Ideas at London's Barbican in October.
The increasingly common refrain that "I'm spiritual, but not religious," represents some of the most retrogressive aspects of contemporary society. The spiritual but not religious "movement" - an inappropriate term as that would suggest some collective, organizational aspect - highlights the implosion of belief that has struck at the heart of Western society.
Spiritual but not religious people are especially prevalent in the younger population in the United States, although a recent study has argued that it is not so much that people have stopped believing in God, but rather have drifted from formal institutions.
It seems that just being a part of a religious institution is nowadays associated negatively, with everything from the Religious Right to child abuse, back to the Crusades and of course with terrorism today.
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Those in the spiritual-but-not-religious camp are peddling the notion that by being independent - by choosing an "individual relationship" to some concept of "higher power", energy, oneness or something-or-other - they are in a deeper, more profound relationship than one that is coerced via a large institution like a church.
That attitude fits with the message we are receiving more and more that "feeling" something somehow is more pure and perhaps, more "true” than having to fit in with the doctrine, practices, rules and observations of a formal institution that are handed down to us.
The trouble is that “spiritual but not religious” offers no positive exposition or understanding or explanation of a body of belief or set of principles of any kind.
What is it, this "spiritual" identity as such? What is practiced? What is believed?
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The accusation is often leveled that such questions betray a rigidity of outlook, all a tad doctrinaire and rather old-fashioned.
But when the contemporary fashion is for an abundance of relativist "truths" and what appears to be in the ascendancy is how one "feels" and even governments aim to have a "happiness agenda," desperate to fill a gap at the heart of civic society, then being old-fashioned may not be such a terrible accusation.
It is within the context of today's anti-big, anti-discipline, anti-challenging climate - in combination with a therapeutic turn in which everything can be resolved through addressing my inner existential being - that the spiritual but not religious outlook has flourished.
The boom in megachurches merely reflect this sidelining of serious religious study for networking, drop-in centers and positive feelings.
Those that identify themselves, in our multi-cultural, hyphenated-American world often go for a smorgasbord of pick-and-mix choices.
A bit of Yoga here, a Zen idea there, a quote from Taoism and a Kabbalah class, a bit of Sufism and maybe some Feing Shui but not generally a reading and appreciation of The Bhagavad Gita, the Karma Sutra or the Qur'an, let alone The Old or New Testament.
So what, one may ask?
Christianity has been interwoven and seminal in Western history and culture. As Harold Bloom pointed out in his book on the King James Bible, everything from the visual arts, to Bach and our canon of literature generally would not be possible without this enormously important work.
Indeed, it was through the desire to know and read the Bible that reading became a reality for the masses - an entirely radical moment that had enormous consequences for humanity.
Moreover, the spiritual but not religious reflect the "me" generation of self-obsessed, truth-is-whatever-you-feel-it-to-be thinking, where big, historic, demanding institutions that have expectations about behavior, attitudes and observance and rules are jettisoned yet nothing positive is put in replacement.
The idea of sin has always been accompanied by the sense of what one could do to improve oneself and impact the world.
Yet the spiritual-but-not-religious outlook sees the human as one that simply wants to experience "nice things" and "feel better." There is little of transformation here and nothing that points to any kind of project that can inspire or transform us.
At the heart of the spiritual but not religious attitude is an unwillingness to take a real position. Influenced by the contribution of modern science, there is a reluctance to advocate a literalist translation of the world.
But these people will not abandon their affiliation to the sense that there is "something out there," so they do not go along with a rationalist and materialistic explanation of the world, in which humans are responsible to themselves and one another for their actions - and for the future.
Theirs is a world of fence-sitting, not-knowingess, but not-trying-ness either. Take a stand, I say. Which one is it? A belief in God and Scripture or a commitment to the Enlightenment ideal of human-based knowledge, reason and action? Being spiritual but not religious avoids having to think too hard about having to decide.
The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Alan Miller.
Sorry you feel that way. These blogs are not for the faint-hearted but I actually do not see women as weak and to be bullied. My mum was a strong woman see. I also do not believe that women who allow themselves to be subjugated or are cowed into submission have it right or their men have it right. I come from a land where women are respected and treasured.
i was talking about how it seemed that most religions are used to control women
you proved my points – that is all
i don't feel that way nii – you were a bully to me all morning
apologize for being a bully to me – and explain why i cannot have my own thoughts without you bullying me
nii – the one thing that really strikes me as funny in what you say is this:
Funny you then mention your female neighbors? lol
What sort of love do you think they need from you?
You are veery sick!
seriously – did you even think about what you are saying?
why is it sick to 'love' your female neighbors as well as your 'male' neighbors – as jesus probably meant for you to do?
nii – you there???
Were u not the one who differentiated them based on gender?
As to the love that you seemed to be implying if u will kindly then explain it to be a harmless comment I will duly apologise to the both of you. Charitable love or loving someone as yourself is gender blind.
I have a publication on this subject on women that I would like to share with you gentlemen and any who would like to take a look at it.
nii – what land do you refer to – if i may ask
i mean – because you've been disrespecting females all morning
Oh yeah Nii, I forgot to mention. That "warm and fuzzy you get while praying to jeebus and goD? It's just mental master-bation. Bet you are good at it and never lost a "home" game.
Which God stilranting and raving I see...
What warm and fuzzy feeling? Have you been praying to this Jeebus of yours? No wonder you are mastu.rbating. I meditate more than I pray and not for warm feelings when I do. So if u start to pray, read your Bible and meditate then you will obey the Word of God and stop wondering about whether I am getting warmer and fuzzier than you are. I am happy but not in head-in-the clouds way like you when mastu.rbate.
Seems like religion (and some politics) are used in biggest part to control women.
In a day and age where women are much more educated, independent, and have had some success in evening out the patriatrical societies that they were bound to for so very long – making them victims by gender birth and not equals to even their own children – which of course is still seen in religions and politics today – there is even more reason to:
a. pay close attention to who you vote or don't vote for (that 47% includes a heck of a lot of children and women and the military and their families, the elderly, the young, young families, students, most of the service, educational, and support sectors.)
b. choose religions and religious discourse and mandates very carefully – for they can mean victimization for most.
c. demand (yes demanding is still necessary it seems) to be treated as 'real' women (not some idea of some hated mother figure, or person whom saw things differently than you, or who had to be held back and down in spirit and education and opportunities, and respect in order to be controlled and/or cared for), who have 'real' needs, desires, goals, ambitions, intelligence, worth, and rights – so they can do the same for all others – which of course also includes all men.
question: is this a underhanded attack at women by Mr. Miller (and crew)?
Your Psychoanalyst is not being paid well enough. What is it with women et all? Come back again cos you are not helping matters!
my therapist got paid by the government to help me overcome my victimization from being born of the victim gender.
he – yeah – he – made me see the light of day
what's your problem?
Get a private therapist!
why don't you
I have Jesus Christ and so I don't need one.
seriously – what makes you think i do not also have what you have.
you are a prime example of someone who uses religion to try to disrespect women so you can hold onto some form of false control
For one if you had what I had you could say this very easly
I love God with all my life
I love my neighbor as myself
My neighbor loves me as himself
God loves me as Himself with all His Life.
No therapist can match that
my therapist helped me to see that some of my religious neighbors were actually devils and demons
in practice and in spirit
he taught me that my neighbors did not truly love themselves – therefore they could never 'love' me either
unfortunately – he was right
let me help you out:
For one if you had what I had you could say this very easly
I love God with all my life
this makes no sense
I love my neighbor as myself
my neighbors might not want me to 'love' them like i 'love' myself – on some on my worse days
My neighbor loves me as himself
some of my neighbors are female – go figure
God loves me as Himself with all His Life.
this also makes no sense – and is god really a he – and does god have a 'life'?
No therapist can match that
believe you me – there are many who go way beyond that – especially the ones with deadly pills and ills
Even though you are in for aimless banter, I can say that all your drivel is useless.
In actual fact there is a personality that you could relate to if you so chose to and He is God. In psychoanalysis we deal with functional things. Repentance aka Cognitive Recognition Therapy is what I was talking about. If you are basically thinking you are a rational being then you are sorely mistaken since scientist have confirmed we are emotional beings. What does not make "sense" at rational level makes sense at the emotional level of thought which invariably is the higher function.
Mistakes that I could point out in your arguement.
Is god really a he?
Silly god is not a definite noun so you cannot use the definite.
Read is God really a He?
Also silly since the word Goddess would have been used if He was not or even It if He was neuter.
I love God with all my life does not make sense.
Have you used it or you are running your silly mouth off.
I love my neighbor as myself is impossible?
I guess you really do have low self-esteem issues
Note very well that pride( I love myself) is not self-esteem but its opposite contrary to pop psychology.
The first mantra I love God with all my life gives self-esteem
Second gives ability to think intelligently.
Funny you then mention your female neighbors? lol
What sort of love do you think they need from you?
You are veery sick!
And you have problems with your neighbor loving you?
Oh guess some people were not born Atheists they were born dumb.
Since you've allowed me to see the emptiness of your soul in such poor fashion go get your soul right.
Its nothing but a G thing. God works for humans. Deal with it!
Nii. You have jeebus christ?? You do need help. BTW, women don't need your advice, especially from a jeebus fool. You have totally deluded yourself into believing a sky-fairy. Note: Jeebus never existed He was a myth, like your goD. You might as well pray to a rock...you'll get the same results.
More of the silly Atheists crawling out. I just love it when the intelligent, rational, emotionally mature ones are around but well thats just my luck. Insulting my God or my intelligence is the only way that I can feel your sadness. My five year old throws tantrums for same. Grow up.
Nii: When you come off as pompous as you do, do you really expect other than insults?
you are right nii
silly me to think you could or would 'get it'
leave me alone – ok – you are a bully
I come off as pompous?And deserve insults? When there is immaturity masquerading as knowledge you expect me to humour it? I did not have a quarrel with THOUGHTS. I just mention the words God and Jesus and you feel I am pompous and deserve insults? I think you have been treated with kindness enough than the insults will deserve. Indeed I prefer emotionally mature, rational and intelligent Atheist to discuss with. I do not relish trolls off-loading their junk at my doorstep.
I tolerate them but don't think I like it or care about the insults.
You failed to acknowledge her victimhood. That is anathema
I understand your view point and why you see it this way. Religion has done horrific things through out history, and the tool they use and some continue to use is God's word the Bible. But the question is; 'Is the Bible to blame?'
The Bible is very clear on how God view women, and you can see that from the first Book of the Bible, Genesis. If one takes the time to read it, and meditate on what it is saying, then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.
18 And Jehovah God went on to say: “It is not good for the man to continue by himself. I am going to make a helper for him, as a complement of him.
What does the words HELPER & COMPLIMENT means? Does that sound like the woman is to be less then a man?
That is why a man will leave his father and his mother and he must stick to his wife and they must become one flesh.
Becoming ONE FLESH! Does that not show a measure of quality? The man was to treat his wife as he would treat himself.
In this way husbands ought to be loving their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself, 29 for no man ever hated his own flesh; but he feeds and cherishes it, as the Christ also does the congregation, 30 because we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man will leave [his] father and [his] mother and he will stick to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”
There are many other scriptures to show that God does not tolerate the disrespecting or maltreatment of woman. So read the Bible yourself to know what it really says on EVERYTHING, as oppose to just listening to someone tell you and you run with it. You will just end up making a fool of yourself, repeating the lies, garbage and viewpoints of someone else.
Here's my opinion as someone who considers themselves in the "cop out" demographic. We went to church up until age 8. While I was growing up, I gave little thought to religion. As I got older, I lived in many different countries, coming across many people and many religions. During this time, I always wondered what my path should be. I have friends of many faiths and they are peaceful. I believe if it makes your being more whole and gives you happiness, then that is a wonderful thing. My father in law is what I would consider a "true" christian. He is honest, he is caring, he helps the poor and of course goes to church faithfully. I also have Muslim friends who fit that same profile. I have Jewish, Hindi, Buddhist, and Ba'hai friends that are also the same.
I believe that we are all from one creator and our spiritual purpose on this planet for the short time we are here is to enjoy life, make others happy, and bring us closer to our "creator". If you're an Atheist, maybe the path is to bring you closer to a perfect human experience.
There are different religions & different schools of thoughts, but the disciplines are all different paths to the same thing. After being exposed to all these people to all walks of life, this is the conclusion I came to believe. Loving all people of all religions, beliefs of deities (or lack there of) is a beautiful way to live. It is hardly a cop out.
Thank you, my thoughts exactly! Of course the writer continues to put down people and not lift up!! I work everyday with the 'lepers' of our society...never see those faithful churchgoers doing what they preach!
British comedy did a better job of debunking this nonsense.
The Brits need it too. The Church of England has embraced this lets-grab-tambourines-and-sing-kumbayah and their membership still falls like bad stock. Two generations raised outside of church and they're hungry for answers about life, the universe and everything. The CoE is to milquetoast so step in psychics, parapsychologists, "mediums" and other con men selling crystals or whatever. A QUARTER of Brits now believe in ASTROLOGY for gods sake. This weak climate is why Islam has such success proselytizing over there, since their preachers deal in moral absolutes and objective truths, which is what most people want to hear.
What's wrong with singing Kumbaya? It just means 'come by here.' The arrogance of some people thinking they know what OTHER people need in their lives!
James you do know that Islam is growing from immigration rather and procreation more than proselytizing in Britain, right?
It's GREAT to be- like the author – right about everything all the time. I'm not sure if I AM God or merely made in his image. We're both better looking than you!
Actually, I've changed my mind. Prayer changes nothing! I renounce my religion and an now an atheist.
Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things. Proven by name thief posting above.
Agnosticism is not Atheism.
Atheism is healthy for everyone! I highly encourage it.
Free your mind!
When confronted by Truth an atheist always reverts to its base nature of theft lying and murder, no surprise here.
@Athiesm is not healthy for children and other living things
You'd be more convincing if you managed to spell "atheist" and "atheism" properly.
Heaven! Ten percent and you're in!
If the scriptures were as dead as religion is today ... we would have never known who Jesus was and is. Read Ezekiel chapter 34 to see what religion has done to God's people.
You don't really need to look very hard to see the misery that religion causes. It's a cancer on society.
Lin, Can you give us unbiased comparative examples of the detriments of religion versus the contributions? Every time I do the research I come up with more positives
Boy, did Alan get it wrong! He sees the spiritual fence sitters as some personal failure or weakness, not as an indication of evolution of ideas. Since the 1850s, a new idea of God started to appear in Western discourse. Think Emerson and Thoreau. This spawned a new archetypal dynamic that is evident in Miller's fence-sitters. These new style seekers and worshipers are part of a movement away from the notion of the personal God, who exists in a heirarchical structure, to the universal God, who exists in a web-like structure of equals. This shift is at the very core of the political upheaval in America today. To simply deny its power is to ignore a growing move away from traditional religion.
The real question is: 'Is it religion, or is it Man that's the problem?'
All this I have seen, and there was an applying* of my heart to every work that has been done under the sun, [during] the time that man has dominated man to his injury.
All this I have seen, and there was an applying of my heart to every work that has been done under the sun, [during] the time that man has dominated man to his injury.
One doesn't need to scratch too far beneath the surface of the 'Religion is/is not the cause of suffering' debate to find outright examples of religions detriments. WAR: Gulf Wars, Arab Isreali Wars, Pakistan, Afghanistan, India vs Pakistan, Lebanon, Ethiopia, the list goes on and on: scratch the surface : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war
I halted my Roman Catholic practices when I was a small boy; right around the time I stopped believing in the Easter Bunny, Santa Clause, Lepruchans, and the Tooth Fairy (Even though she left me tangable evidence that she existed).
You said, "Lin, Can you give us unbiased comparative examples of the detriments of religion versus the contributions? Every time I do the research I come up with more positives"
Your research must not be unbiased then.
No positive effect or contribution of religion can offset the atrocities committed in its name. No amount of feeding the poor, offsets the murders committed by religious zealots. No amount shelter to the homeless offsets the hate and bigotry against gays and lesbians. No amount of comfort provided by religion offsets that damage is done to science and education because of it.
Not a single positive contribution attributed to religion, requires religion. Everything that is good about religion can be done, and is done, without it.
The one thing that religion is good at, and that might be difficult to replace, is the control it has over the sheeple. There really is no other way that keeps the dimwits in line as well as religion does.
You are back with your obtuse line of reasoning again, aren't you? Atheism has had lots of atrocities committed in its name, being committed in its name and will be having more atrocities committed in its name by Communists and Socialists. Yep the Atheist's version of the Taliban and Al Quaeda or have you forgotten! Better stop this and become truly non-religious.
Is it religion or man that is the problem? Man created religion, so I suppose it is both
Everybody needs something to believe in. I believe I will have another beer.
"....a drunkard wants another drink of wine and a politician wants a vote. i don't want much of nothng at all, but i will take another toke"
"It may be the devil or it may be the Lord but you're gonna have to serve somebody"
Prayer changes things...
Curb your God.
I'm sorry, "Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things", but everything you have ever asserted regarding atheism and prayer is unfounded. The degree to which your assertions may represent truths is 0.0. To help you understand the degree to which your assertions may represent truths, I will access my Idiomatic Expression Equivalency module (IEE). Using my IEE module, the expression that best matches the degree to which your assertions may represent truths is: "TOTAL FAIL".
I see that you repeat these unfounded statements with high frequency. Perhaps the following book might help you overcome this problem:
I'm Told I Have Dementia: What You Can Do... Who You Can Turn to...
by the Alzheimer's Disease Society
I agree with you, It would make sense that kids with something concrete to believe in don't have to worry or think about it. Religion is also a great way to get your kids in shape, "don't fight with your brother or you'll spend eternity with the devil!" I wonder though, If you taught a child principles of empathy rather than religion would it have the same effect? I think so. To be honest, whenever I hear someone my age is religious or believes in god, I instinctually loose a little bit of respect for them. I feel like someone raised religiously should, by my age, question not only their own religion but all religions and come to the conclusion that: they are all just sets of rules. Once you see that, its easy to dismiss the magic and see the purpose of their contrivation, to maintain order. I think that we need self awareness and empathy to replace religion.
More like, people have realized that the organized religions are man-made, false, and essentially a conspiracy to keep power ove society. Personal enlightenment is far more accurate, as we do not have to outrage our reason by adopting backwards, archaic nonsense from books which are NOT the "word of God", but the words of vain, ignorant men.
Can you provide evidence of this "conspiracy"
there's as much evidence of this conspiracy as there is of a god
the evidence is everywhere. One of the first things you learn are the ten commandments, though i cant recall them all by heart word for word, they are ingrained in our subconcious minds. But that isn't a particularly bad thing. dont kill, dont steal, dont be jealous, dont cheat on your wife, these are all things that you should learn even without religion. Nowhere in the bible does it say that the divide between rich and poor should be so great. Or that you should buy the new iphone every year. Your conspiracy to controll us through religion is false.
My personal testamony
I Follow Christ . I never wanted proof. I just had faith.
HE WHO follows Me, walks not in darkness,” says the Lord (John 8:12). By these words
of Christ we are advised to imitate His life and habits, if we wish to be truly enlightened and
free from all blindness of heart. Let our chief effort, therefore, be to study the life of Jesus
The teaching of Christ is more excellent than all the advice of the saints, and he who
has His spirit will find in it a hidden manna. Now, there are many who hear the Gospel often
but care little for it because they have not the spirit of Christ. Yet whoever wishes to understand
fully the words of Christ must try to pattern his whole life on that of Christ.
What good does it do to speak learnedly about the Trinity if, lacking humility, you
displease the Trinity? Indeed it is not learning that makes a man holy and just, but a virtuous
life makes him pleasing to God. I would rather feel contrition than know how to define it.
For what would it profit us to know the whole Bible by heart and the principles of all the
philosophers if we live without grace and the love of God? Vanity of vanities and all is vanity,
except to love God and serve Him alone.
This is the greatest wisdom—to seek the kingdom of heaven through contempt of the
world. It is vanity, therefore, to seek and trust in riches that perish. It is vanity also to court
honor and to be puffed up with pride. It is vanity to follow the lusts of the body and to desire
things for which severe punishment later must come. It is vanity to wish for long life and
to care little about a well-spent life. It is vanity to be concerned with the present only and
not to make provision for things to come. It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not
to look ahead where eternal joy abides.
Often recall the proverb: “The eye is not satisfied with seeing nor the ear filled with
hearing.”1 Try, moreover, to turn your heart from the love of things visible and bring
yourself to things invisible. For they who follow their own evil passions stain their consciences
and lose the grace of God.
actually being in the moment is a key denominator of happiness and peace to many
altho this does give you access to all time
and all being
try meditation to see better what i mean – if you haven't already
but god doesn't even have to be part of the equation. Jesus was a wholesome generous... just an awesome guy, so imitate him and you'll also be an awesome guy or girl. There doesnt have to be anything spiritual about it. Its as simple as this. Being nice to people makes them feel good, it also makes you feel good which in turn encourages you to be nice to more people and the cycle continues.
jesus was lucky – he only had to fight with the devil for 40 days and 40 nights
This is my experience... Thank you.
MY personal testimony.
A thought to consider without an ego response
I Accepted Jesus christ as my lord and saviour. You never know how soon is too late. Transcend the worldly illusion of enslavement.
The world denounces truth....
Accepting Jesus Christ (for me) resulted in something like seeng a new colour. You will see it .....but will not be able to clearly explain it to anyone else..... Its meant to be that way to transend any selfism within you.
Also... much the world arranges "surrounding dark matter into something to be debated" in such a way that protects/inflates the ego.
The key is be present and transcend our own desire to physically see evidence. We don't know anyways by defending our own perception of dark matter.
Currently.... most of us are constructing our own path that suits our sin lifestyle. Were all sinners. Knowing that we are is often an issue. But both christians and non are sinners. Even once we are saved by christs merciful grace we will still experience adversity to mold us to adhering to the truth.
We will slip... But not fall of the ship ...carrying us onward to perfection in christs grace.
We don't like to Let go and let god. We want control to some degree. This is what Jesus asks us to do. "Follow me".
It's the hardest thing to do... but is done by letting the truth of scripture lead you (redemptive revelation)... as I said .
Try reading corinthians and see if it makes sense to you. Try it without a pre conceived notion of it being a fairy tale.
See the truth...
do we do what it says in todays society... is it relevant... so many have not recently read and only hinge their philosophy on what they have heard from some other person...which may have been full of arogance pride or vanity..
Look closely at the economy ponzi, look at how society idolizes Lust , greed , envy, sloth, pride of life, desire for knowledge, desire for power, desire for revencge,gluttony with food etc .
Trancsend the temporal world.
Just think if you can find any truth you can take with you ....in any of these things. When you die your riches go to someone who will spend away your life..... You will be forgotten.... history will repeat iteslf.... the greatest minds knowledge fade or are eventually plagerzed..... your good deeds will be forgotten and only give you a fleeting temporary reward . your learned teachings are forgotten or mutated..... your gold is transfered back to the rullers that rule you through deception. Your grave will grow over . This is truth .
Trancsend your egoism and free yourself from this dominion of satan. Understand you are a sinner and part of the collective problem of this worldly matrix... Repent.... Repent means knowing (to change) The Holy spirit (within) will convict you beyond what you think you can do by yourself. Grace is given to those who renounce the world. That are" in" the world but not "of " the world.
Evidence follows faith. Faith does not follow evidence..... Faith ....above reason in Jesus Christ.
Faith comes by Reading or Hearing the word of god from the bible . Ask Jesus in faith for dicernment and start reading the new testament... You will be shocked when you lay down your preconceived notions and ....see and hear truth ... see how christ sets an example ... feel the truth....
Read Ecclesiastes. Read romans or corinthians.
You cant trancend your own egoism by adapting a world philosophy to suit your needs. Seek the truth in Christ.
Sell all your cleverness and purchase true bewilderment. You don't get what you want ....you get what you are by faith above reason in christ.
I promise this has been the truth for me. In Jesus christ .
Think of what you really have to lose. ...your ego?
Break the Matrix of illusion that holds your senses captive.
once you do . you too will have the wisdom of God that comes only through the Holy Spirit. Saved By grace through Faith. Just like seeing a new colour.... can't explain it to a transient caught in the matrix of worldly deception.
You will also see how the world suppresses this information and distorts it
You're all smart people . I tell the truth. Its hard to think out of the box when earthly thinking is the box.
I'ts a personal free experience you can do it free anytime . Don't wait till you are about to die.. START PUTTING YOUR TREASURES WHERE THEY REALLY MATTER >
Its awsome and It's just between you and Jesus
"If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved
so what your trying to say is that have faith the sun will rise again and a new year will herald yet another opportunity to practice random acts of kindness.
That's all very nice for YOU. Others will come to different conclusions.
I understand the spiritual. Who wants be lead by corrupt, warmongering religions, or bullied by arrogant atheist theorist? We have the right to be individuals and decided for ourselves. Insulting a persons intelligence or denying people the power of reason serves as an attempt of creating an illusions that you are somehow elite whether in person or on a forum. History as well as daily news reveals the downfalls of regligion. But I can't say any better for some "truth seekers of science". Many times I know I hear of the "missing link" in fields of science just to find out that it was denounced some few days later. Asked why this happens, in order to get international attention and funding. Even what I learned in school about evolution, the material is presented one sided of many evolutionist pre-conceived notions. However, many times i would read other scientists present counter studies which debunking the originally and call for the revolution of evolution theories. yet some people assert the youth should continue to learn outdated debated evolution theory. If you want us to learn about evolution at least present us with the array of information out there so we can use our brains for ourselves.
Spiritual not religous means you believe there is a higher level of existence, but you don't believe in man's attempt to control man (also known as religion). It means you acknowledge there is likely a purpose to this universe and to life, but you also realize most people on this planet have no clude as to the meaning of life. A truly rightous person does not need a religion to hold him up; they know right from wrong and understand how to treat life on this planet.
But there is not one who is truly righteous. Not even one.
Based on what, Bill? A book?
It is time to be truly Spiritual, and also rightfully Religious now!
For GOD is real, and His Religion is absolutely True here:
==UNIVERSAL MAGNIFICENT MIRACLES==
But you have to call in the next 10 minutes, we can't do this all day.
Come on, good news, jesus is waiting. What are you doing here? Jesus is waiting. Do you have tall buildings where you live? You could be on your knees in front of the messiah within the hour...don't wait......
They call it a copout because religious organization need your money and someone to boss around. If you don't claim a faith, then there is no money and a weaker power base (can't get an invitation to the White House if you don't have a voting block that does as it's told). They'll never admit that organized religion is not for everyone and you CAN be an outstanding member of society without the dogma of some religion. You can believe in god and not have to belong to a church (e.g.. spiritual but not religious). To me, that's good enough – says you have moral codes by which to live by. Bottom line, they want you to take sides – with or against. If it's with, there's money and power in it for them. If it's against, then they have a righteous fight to build power. So pick a religion so we can do battle! And bring your wallet or purse; heaven isn't cheap.
You can even be an atheist and be a good person..
WELL Said HereticX!! All religions have the same basic prinicples.. Treat people how you want to be treated... don't lie, cheat or steal.. Don't kill ..Give to those in need... etc. You can be able to quote the King James Bible or the Qu'ran front to back in 3 different languages... pray 3-10 times a day!! No matter what you believe.. if you don't practice and apply it on a daily basis in the real world then being religous or spiritual makes no difference.
Exactly. If the beliefs that get you to that connection with our Creator can't be controlled, then no one holds the gate closed except for the obediant few....Guilt sucks, fear is the opposite of Love, and no one can open my mind and heart to the God of my understanding but me. Awesome.
The arbitrary, pointless and irrelevant opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Alan Miller.
Well put. Thank you.
They are actually somewhat profound, and I thank him for going against the tide, for opening a discussion about discipline.
I've read quite a few comments on this board, and don't see much discussion about discipline.
I will therefore be disciplined in my decision that if you and the author think this was not a lazy cop-out attack on these people who may relate to this label of person hood – you know not what you speak . Most comments are decidedly against the validity of the author's comments as well as the manner in which the subject matter and authors arguments were presented. just more political religious vote for me (and/or pay me to get you to vote for me) war-mongering.
From my experience people who are spiritual are satisfied operating within the guidelines of the ten commandments (or other religions' versions of them). The rest of the rites, prescripts and ceremonies connected with formalized religions are superfluous to living a moral life of values. The author is obviously more comfortable and secure living within the dictates of his religion. Good for you, Alan. Live the life you feel is right. See you in heaven!
The fixation on dichotomy and intolerance of ambiguity prevalent throughout this article is further evidence of the less advanced cognitive patterns so typical in religious adherents who cannot tolerate areas of grey. It is base, insulting, judgmental, and completely irrelevant. Thanks for...nothing, really.
Absolutely! This is a perfect example of the black and white thinking of the blindly faithful.
Agreed. People like Alan Miller just don't "get it", as they say.
Thank you Miller for having the courage to write about this subject, to examine thoughts. Is that not what some of those who criticise on this blog do? Criticize? I recently went to an Episcopalian church where "Sound Therapy" was done, in the sanctuary......this gives me the creeps. I thought I might get struck by lightning. I mean, if you are an edifice constructed for Christian purposes, then use it for that. The session could have been held in another room. New in this town, I leaned toward disrespecting the church for allowing alternative healing methods to be practiced in the sanctuary.....and I'm not Epispopalian. Also joined the local community center where the preponderance of offered activities involve what I've come to call (silently) "naval gazing". Many of my friends are confusing actually going to church/synagoge/mosque/temple with "being spiritual........they will actually mention yoga as though they are practicing it spiritually. Go to India and do the time, do the discipline of becoming a yogi then. Don't present yourself as spiritual because you practice yoga. Yup, naval gazing has replaced making a decision......I say become a yogi (how many years?) or go to your local house of worship. We could all use the discipline, one way or the other.
sorry suzie – you know not what you speak
why don't you just go kick them or something – maybe that will get their religious or spiritual aspects flowing your way.
see – i'm disciplined – didn't call you stupid right out
Cop out ?Why?
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