By Dan Merica, CNN
Washington (CNN)–Six of the nine Supreme Court justices attended the annual Red Mass at the Cathedral of St. Matthew the Apostle in Washington on Sunday. The event’s speakers spoke about using faith in decision-making but largely stayed away from the controversial issues the court will face in the coming months.
Chief Justice John Roberts, Justice Stephen Breyer, Justice Antonin Scalia, Justice Clarence Thomas, Justice Anthony Kennedy and Justice Elena Kagan all attended the 60th annual Mass. This was Kagan’s first Red Mass.
Having six justices in attendance ties a record set in 2009. The only justices to not attend this year were Sonia Sotomayor and Samuel Alito, both of whom are Catholic, and Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who is Jewish. Kagan and Breyer, both of whom were in attendance, are also Jewish.
The annual Mass is an event put on by the Archdiocese of Washington and the John Carroll Society and aims to bring people together to pray for the members of the judiciary before the court begins hearing cases each year. It’s called the Red Mass because of the color of the garment worn by clergy.
In the past, presidents, vice presidents and many members of Congress and the judiciary have attended the event.
Timothy P. Broglio, archbishop for members of the U.S. military, delivered this year’s homily, expressing a commitment to the poor and to education while also strongly emphasizing the idea that people should strive to live their faith and become "instruments of a new evangelization."
Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter
"The faith we hold in our hearts must motivate the decisions, the words and the commitment of our everyday existence," said Broglio. "Our society must also rest on stable, clear foundations. Otherwise, we run the risk of sinking into the mire of one popular soundbite after another."
Speaking about the need to shed clearer light on the "joy and renewed enthusiam" of the church, Broglio stressed the idea of living one’s faith outside of church and in everyday life.
"We are instruments in the hands of the Lord, and so we pray to be ever open to his presence," said Broglio. "The message is filled with hope: not only for eternal life, but also for the graces necessary so that our lives are truly noble of God and of the vocation he has given us."
While the Red Mass follows the traditional structure of a Catholic service, it also includes a few additions. In particular, the congregants sang “The Star-Spangled Banner” and “America the Beautiful” at the start and end of the Mass.
Others attending the event included Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood; Virginia attorney general and gubernatorial hopeful Ken Cuccinelli; and U.S. Ambassador to Ireland Dan Rooney.
The court’s current religious makeup - six Catholics and three Jews -– marks the first time there has been no Protestant justice on the highest court in the land. In 2010, Kagan replaced Justice John Paul Stevens, who was the lone Protestant at the time of his retirement. This is unique for a country in which every president has been Protestant except for John F. Kennedy, a Catholic.
CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories
The mix of religion and government at the Red Mass has raised some eyebrows in the past.
Ginsburg no longer attends the Mass because she said she grew tired of being lectured by Catholic officials.
“I went one year, and I will never go again, because this sermon was outrageously anti-abortion,” Ginsburg said in the book “Star of David: Prominent Jews Talk About Being Jewish.” “Even the Scalias - although they’re much of that persuasion –- were embarrassed for me.”
Critics of the service find the attendance of leading decision-makers to be inappropriate.
“There is one purpose to have this. It is to make clear … just what the church hierarchy feels about some of the very issues that are to come before the court,” said Rev. Barry Lynn, president of Americans United for Separation of Church and State. “That is just wrong. And it is wrong for members to go -– not illegal –- but wrong for the archdiocese to promote and encourage this event.”
While previous Masses have included political references –- in 2009, American Cardinal Daniel DiNardo made an unspecified reference to the rights of the unborn –- this year’s Mass was largely void of any hot-button political issues that the court might be addressing, like affirmative action, same-sex marriage, voting rights or abortion laws.
The origins of the Red Mass date back to early Catholic times in cities like Rome, Paris and London. In Paris, La Sainte Chappelle was built and designated as a chapel specifically for Red Mass. In the United States, the tradition began in New York City in 1928, when a group of Catholic lawyers gathered in St. Andrew’s Cathedral.
– CNN's Bill Mears contributed to this report.
Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things.......................now add perv chadf/vic ......to a sock duet !!!
The Pope debunks IT ! To SELL book ! (all about $$$)
Prayer changes things
I'm sorry, "Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things", but your assertions regarding atheism and prayer are unfounded. The degree to which your assertions may represent truths is 0.0. To help you understand the degree to which your assertions may represent truths, I will access my Idiomatic Expression Equivalency module (IEE). Using my IEE module, the expression that best matches the degree to which your assertions may represent truths is: "TOTAL FAIL".
I see that you repeat these unfounded statements with high frequency. Perhaps the following book might help you overcome this problem:
I'm Told I Have Dementia: What You Can Do... Who You Can Turn to...
by the Alzheimer's Disease Society
"Ronald Regonzo" who degenerates to:
"Salvatore" degenerates to:
"Douglas" degenerates to:
"truth be told" degenerates to:
"Thinker23" degenerates to:
"Atheism is not healthy ..." degenerates to:
"another repentant sinner" degenerates to:
"Dodney Rangerfield" degenerates to:
"tina" degenerates to:
"captain america" degenerates to:
"Atheist Hunter" degenerates to:
"Anybody know how to read? " degenerates to:
"just sayin" degenerates to:
"ImLook'nUp" degenerates to:
"Kindness" degenerates to:
"Chad" degenerates to
"Bob" degenerates to
"nope" degenerates to:
"2357" degenerates to:
"WOW" degenerates to:
"fred" degenerates to:
"!" degenerates to:
"John 3:16" degenerates to:
"pervert alert" is the degenerate.
This troll is not a christian
Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.
An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs,
And the sock puppets are all here plus a few more !!!!!
Oops and a few more.............chad/vic.................ICR, RCC, and the Discovery Insti-tute.
I guess we know who is now officially the Washington Establishment. The catholic Church. Not surprising if you know prophecy. The first beast of revelation 13 will get the second beast to do its bidding. Now America is being set up to do the Papacy's bidding in the world, and it will get pretty ugly when the two beast have one mind. Get ready for some bizarre Supreme Court decisions regarding religious rights.
These are dangerous times indeed! During the JFK years this would have never happened and if it had happened a lot of eyebrows would have been raised. Everyone knew back then that the Catholic Church was as much a threat to the United States as it is today. You could barely vote a Catholic into office. But look at them now!
Ginsburg is a horrible person.
Exactly what makes her "horrible"?
Ban marriage between cult and state.
Should come in handy. Especially during witch trials, and in cases of people being ripped off by diviners, and psychics.
Prayer changes things,
I'm Told I Have Dementia: What You Can Do... Who You Can Turn to...
by the Alzheimer's Disease Society
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!
Well, duh, of course you have to do something for yourself too... but an equivalent test would be taking only one medicine at a time and ignoring all the others that might be indicated.
Prayer certainly changes the state of mind of people who find it valuable-just like meditation does.
Talking to your fingers changes nothing!
It's no worse than the never-ending influence peddling by lobbyists.
One of the more remarkable aspects of early Twenty-First Century American life was that even the highest levels of government believed, or felt it necessary to publically proclaim that they believed, in Bronze Age Palestinian mythology. This is quite remarkable for the period, given that they had already reached the moon, probed the sub-atomic realm with large particle accelerators and peered back to virtually the Big Bang with their radio telescopes.
A high school history textbook from 200 years from now.
nope to nope
It seems to be a defect of modern thought that we want to believe that progress is linear. The advancements and the mythology explain different things, though. Despite their highly defective "mythology" the Soviets also were nearly capable of landing on the moon.
All those great advancements of science stop dead in their tracks when it comes to the question of origin of life. All those great advancements of science have yet to come up with any more proof as to why we exist or even touch the fist cause argument put out thousands of years ago. All those great advancements point only to the monument of the unknown God as did the Greeks. Amazing how the atheist prides himself on the advancements of man without God yet without God mans knowledge is limited by self imposed boundaries. Those boundaries are set in the materialistic and that which can be proven by tools of the materialist. So pat yourself on the back and look at your unknown god and see where all those advancements have taken you.
Believers know God and all that God has revealed to them knowing that God is Spirit. This was the purpose of creation. So that God could reveal the abundance of wonder that is part of the physical world and the spiritual. This physical world and our physical bodies will pass away as designed. The spiritual and eternal life has a different set of properties and laws which are well known. Believers see both the physical and the eternal and long for all to see the wonder.
The ignorance and pride of the atheist is the trap that limits life to the physical which is why they boast about the unknown. Denial is a hard set of blinders and just like the Priests who sent the perfect lamb to slaughter themselves knowing the laws better than all so to the atheist stands before the monument of the unknown based on their laws which they claim to know better than all.
exactly what knowledge has religion EVER given us?
Blessed are the Cheesemakers
Religion seems to cause more problems and do more harm to the truth than does the most vocal atheist.
The Bible for example is the written revelation of God. If you look at the accounts of the Bible you can understand the vision different cultures over time had of God. You can see how these peoples related to the God they claimed was with them. Whether God exists or not we can gain insight into how people behave in the presence of God.
The knowledge gained from the Bible is that very few humans follow the God they claim to believe exists. The result is their lives are no different than non believers or those who follow some other god. Those few that believe with all their mind and body make a tremendous impact in our world. Those few have great strength (not necessarily the Atlas type) because of their faith. Those few can “see” God and can “see” the pattern of creation, purpose of existence and Gods plan for a fallen world. If mankind were to follow say the teaching of Christ we would have peace in this world. The problem is that few do.
None of that is knowledge. Religion has taught us nothing about how the world actually works. Your claim that the bible is the revelation of a god is just an assertion and the evidence is overwhelming for it being man made with no divine intervention.
Blessed are the Cheesemakers
Knowledge is knowledge which is not limited to strictly secular sources. The fact God does or does not exist is immaterial to the knowledge about how man responds and responded based upon their view of God over the years. You cannot get that knowledge from any other source as it originated from one tribe going back to the days of Moses. If the accounts are false that also provides knowledge as to the character of the Hebrew. The accounts claim they were meticulous in their record of the law. If this trait is false the entire history of the Jew (before captivity in Babylon) is questionable. Thanks to the Dead Sea Scrolls there is a very high level of confidence that they were accurate keepers of the law. At this point we do not have cause to discount what was written.
The Bible supports your argument that religion gets it wrong and that man uses religion to lead or mislead the populace. That is good knowledge to have as even believers cannot counter that.
Where do you go for knowledge about why good and evil exist? Without God there is no good or evil just animals doing what they do based on years of evolution and learning. A lion is not evil for eating a lamb and Stalin was not evil for killing believers.
Forget the basics of hygiene established by the early Hebrew. I am certain you can come up with a non Hebrew source for the same. That knowledge was transmitted to the tribes so regardless of a similar procedure in another culture it was the source for them.
We are flat out told the source of war and how to have peace. Just because we choose not use that knowledge does not take away from it.
Fucking Idiots! The last person I want deciding my, or any case, is a delusional believer in supernatural beings.
Only for the new members of this blog:
The Mass should have started with the following prayer but did not:
The Apostles' Creed 2012 (updated by yours truly based on the studies of NT historians and theologians of the past 200 years)
Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven?????
I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)
Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,
He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.
(References used are available upon request.)
REPEAT BULL SH IT ALERT
THIS POSTER IS FULL OF SH IT WHEN, OH CRAP – MOM IS CALLING – SHE DROPPED HER PIPE AGAIN.
In other news, other people in power were seen kowtowing to other groups with authority. Same old same old.
Get off your knees. Religion is for cowards.
LOOK AT ALL THE LIARS HANGING OUT WITH THE OTHER LIARS REINFORCING EACH OTHERS LIES.
Time to get the POTUS to join SCROTUS in attending RedDawn Mass. We are way behind Iran as a theocracy ;-)
Christians argue that, if science has not found an answer to a phenomena, then god did it!
Therefore before we understood lightening, god did it. Likewise for evolution and earthquakes, etc.
You can see the fallacy here.
Using this logic, every time we explain something we did not previously understand, a piece of god is eliminated.
Therefore, god will necessarily be dis-proven over time.
Therefore, there is no god.
The law of a diminishing god.
Yeah, 24, funny how gods just keep getting smaller and smaller.
Atheists argue that, if science has not found god yet, then god does not exist...
Same was true for atoms, relativity, black holes, Big Bang...
The philosophy uses the following :
1. "God is, or He is not"
2. A Game is being played... where heads or tails will turn up.
3. According to reason, you can defend neither of the propositions.
4. You must wager. It is not optional.
5. Let us weigh the gain and the loss in wagering that God is. Let us estimate these two chances. If you gain, you gain all; if you lose, you lose nothing.
6. Wager, then, without hesitation that He is. (...) There is here an infinity of an infinitely happy life to gain, a chance of gain against a finite number of chances of loss, and what you stake is finite. And so our proposition is of infinite force, when there is the finite to stake in a game where there are equal risks of gain and of loss, and the infinite to gain.
Reversing the wager
One way to counter the wager is to replace Pascal's Judeo-Christian God with a hypothetical god that eternally punishes those whose lives are governed by irrational beliefs. This action effectively flips the four paradigms of the wager on their heads. To avoid confusion, the hypothetical deity will be referred to here as Ral:
1. If you believe in God and Ral does exist, you will be condemned to remain in hell forever; thus an infinite loss.
2. If you do not believe in God and Ral does exist, you will be rewarded with eternal life in heaven; thus an infinite gain.
3. If you believe in God and Ral does not exist, you will not be rewarded; thus a finite loss.
4. If you do not believe in God and Ral does not exist, you will not be rewarded, but you have lived your own life; thus a finite gain.
This theoretical belief system, which is just as empirically provable as the belief system underlying Pascal's wager, presents a win/win scenario for atheists and a lose/lose scenario for those who believe in God. Since the two contrasting ideas of a specific god are logically equivalent in likelihood, atheism is shown to have the greatest potential for gain, completely negating and effectively reversing Pascal's argument.
This reversal works best for those who want to confuse more than disprove, but it's fairly valid.
1. If god exists and god is benevolent and you are a good person who disbelieves, you will be fine
2. If god exists and god is benevolent and you are a hypocrite who claims to believe but does not you may not be fine
3. If god exists and god is malevolent and you are a good person who disbelieves, you may not be fine
4. If god exists and god is malevolent and you are a hypocrite who claims to believe but does not you will likely be greatly punished
5. If god does not exist and you are a good person who disbelieves then you have a net gain (You help yourself instead of waiting for god to help you)
6. If god does not exist and you are a hypocrite who claims to believe but does not you have a net loss (Untruthfulness to self)
True believer is left out, because you're arguing from the viewpoint that belief is something that takes place deep down inside, and is not a facade, and that you simply lack it.
Somewhat of a false analogy. The American version of Protestant Fundamentalism is not the traditional position of Christianity. Traditionally, there is room for non-belief, which does not lead to punishment.
Also the origins of faith do not rest in the believer. ("No one shall come to me, unless the Father draw him", "faith is a virtue granted ...", "many are called , but few are chosen"). So what you're saying IS the conundrum of fundies, but they do not represent the position of classical European Christianity.
In the past most religious faith of Jewish and Christian origin was a common bond between the Church, society, and civil law matters. Most especially in regards to educational criteria for private educational needs of those who sought such. However, since the 1960s the advancement of bio-sciences have forced a confrontation of the conscience of government, society, and the religious orders of all faiths.
The confrontation of this universal conscience of man has placed him in a seat of endless "figure it out". Maybe the answer to so many questions would not be as difficult if we had enough faith in what we say we believe to trust the judgment of basic right and wrong. A great help to our present conflicts would be simply to stop allowing the rapid advancements of science from pushing ourselves into commitments we are not prepared to make.
This is how I see it.
Monsieur Eh bien, si vous voulez savoir, j'ai été obligé de fuir ces articles par tommie tom, scotty toux quand ils m'ont couru pour être un chrétien. Maintenant, je suis dans la clandestinité en France de faire le travail du Seigneur Dieu à l'abri. C'était pour moi diffuclt voler si je devais prendre une barge poubelle sur les mers.
J'aime led vers charnelle. Ce tout.
Vous pouvez athées me chasser hors du pays, mais vous ne pouvez pas changer la vérité de Jésus, qui est la vérité de Dieu. Vous croyez aux mensonges de satan et de détourner de Jésus. Mon camel-toe englouti 3 moutons dans la campagne française. Tu ferais mieux de commencer votre marche avec Jésus.
J'espère que vos moutons ont des vers de gros, et j'espère que Jésus en a un aussi, comme Heavensent ne fait que de gros vers charnels. Très gros vers charnels.
"Mon camel-toe englouti 3 moutons dans la campagne française."
The Word of God also refers to the color ‘red’ in Revelation 17:4 and for a better understanding what the reference means we invite you to read the entry ‘Scarlet and Purple Colour, a golden Cup and the Seven Mountains’ listed on the ‘Recent Revelations’ page of our website http://www.aworlddeceived.ca
In addition we invite you to read the articles ‘The Mystery Babylon’, ‘Popes and the Princes of This World’, ‘S.exual Abuse in the Churches’ and ‘S.exual Abuse – Vatican Involvement’ listed on our website.
All the other pages and articles listed on our website explain how and by whom this whole world has been deceived as confirmed in Revelation 12:9.
Seek, and ye shall find (Matthew 7:7).
The Word of God also refers to the color ‘red’ in Revelation 17:4 and for a better understanding what the reference means we invite you to read the entry ‘Scarlet and Purple Colour, a golden Cup and the Seven Mountains’ listed on t
I don't even know whats goin' on...
Put a sock in it. If you actually think anyone will read that crap, your even more deluded than we thought.
Fluffy has no control over other rodents. Perhaps you should pray about them, or get a 22.
The CNN Belief Blog covers the faith angles of the day's biggest stories, from breaking news to politics to entertainment, fostering a global conversation about the role of religion and belief in readers' lives. It's edited by CNN's Daniel Burke with contributions from Eric Marrapodi and CNN's worldwide news gathering team.