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October 1st, 2012
04:30 PM ET

Explainer: Pakistan's blasphemy laws

By Reza Sayah, CNN

Islamabad, Pakistan (CNN) - It has been more than a month since a teenage Christian girl was charged in Pakistan under the country's blasphemy laws . Her accusers say she burned pages from the Quran, Islam's holy book. Amid twists in her case, including changed statements by witnesses, she is facing life in prison.

On Monday, CNN reported that three witnesses whose testimony could absolve the 14-year-old Rimsha Masih have changed their statements, a potential setback for her. She has denied the charges.

The case has drawn the country's complex laws about blasphemy into the spotlight. Here is a primer on those laws.

What are the major stipulations of Pakistan's blasphemy laws, and what exactly do they prohibit?

Pakistan’s blasphemy law makes it a crime to destroy or damage the Quran or to insult the Prophet Mohammed.

The following are two sections of the law as they appear in Pakistan’s penal code:

Whoever will fully defiles, damages or desecrates a copy of the Holy Quran or of an extract therefrom or uses it in any derogatory manner or for any unlawful purpose shall be punishable for imprisonment for life.

Whoever by words, either spoken or written or by visible representation, or by any imputation, innuendo, or insinuation, directly or indirectly, defiles the sacred name of the Holy Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) shall be punished with death, or imprisonment for life, and shall also be liable to fine.

When were Pakistan's blasphemy laws adopted? What fueled them?

 According to the public policy think tank Jinnah Institute, Pakistan’s blasphemy laws originated in British colonial laws drafted in 1860 to protect religious beliefs and customs.

In the 1980s, under the rule of hardline Islamist and military dictator Gen. Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq, the laws were amended to include life imprisonment and the death penalty.

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Zia-ul-Haq accused previous governments of leading the country away from the principles of Islam and openly stated his mission to return Pakistan to a conservative Islamist state. Zia-ul-Haq’s reign is widely viewed as the “Islamization” of Pakistan.

Critics say that soon after the blasphemy law was amended under Zia-ul-Haq, many accusers began misusing the law and exploiting Pakistan’s ineffective justice system to settle personal scores and persecute minorities.

The Jinnah Institute says nine cases of blasphemy were reported in Pakistan between 1929 and 1982. Over the past 15 years, the number of cases has reached into the thousands.

What are the big Pakistani blasphemy cases in recent years that got international attention? How were they resolved?

In November 2010, Christian laborer Asia Bibi was sentenced to death after a fellow worker accused her of insulting Islam. The sentence is under appeal, and Bibi is still in jail.

Months after Bibi’s death sentence, provincial Gov. Salman Taseer and Federal Minister Shahbaz Bhatti – both moderate Pakistani politicians – were assassinated after public calls to amend the blasphemy laws.

In May 2010, militants attacked two mosques and killed more than 90 worshipers of the Ahmadi sect, minority Muslims often viewed as heretics and blasphemers by hardline Sunnis in Pakistan.

Why have some hardline Islamist groups in Pakistan rejected the call to change the blasphemy law and gone as far as praising the assassination of politicians who pushed for change?

Aasim Sajjad, a political analyst and professor of history at Islamabad's Quaid-i-Azam Univeristy, blames a succession of governments, leaders and institutions that have directly or indirectly either promoted or tolerated a hardline Islamist mindset.

“There are very well-entrenched structures of power that exist in this society,” Sajjad said. “Some of them have to do with how this state and its institutions are set up. Those deeply established structures are part of the answer why this continues to happen.

“What one needs to emphasize is how since its inception, the state has depicted itself as citadel of a particular kind of religious ideology. And what’s well-established is the direction of the state towards a self-proclaimed Islamic state during the late '70s and '80s. I think that was a fundamental turning point," he said.

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“Today, there is a wide cross-section of society that tolerates this, and I think there’s also an environment of fear where they feel that if they do stand up against it, they will be targeted. The primary sentiment is one of ‘keep your head down and don’t get yourself involved, because if you do, then you’re going to be set up to be jailed or killed,' " the professor said.

Is there any chance of meaningful debate or change when it comes to Pakistan’s blasphemy laws?

“I think it’s going to take a visionary political leadership which is willing to be courageous and take a stand to generate popular support,” Sajjad said.

“But my sense is that the mainstream political forces in this country have the same approach as most everyday Pakistanis, which is just put your head down and don’t take up these issues. Until a popular constituency develops, political will won’t be generated. Until a political will is generated, a popular constituency may not be developed.

“It’s like what came first, the chicken or the egg?”

- CNN Belief Blog

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soundoff (1,048 Responses)
  1. HeavenSent Army

    You are satan's minions and you spew the devil's lies! Fight back, join the HeavenSent Army today!!

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    Stay Carnal! Amen.

    October 1, 2012 at 11:51 pm |
    • Towelie

      Thanks for getting high with me HS.

      October 1, 2012 at 11:52 pm |
    • hinduMithraism Christianity baseofhindufilthyracism.

      hinduism, absurdity of a hindu, pickle head.

      October 2, 2012 at 11:29 am |
  2. hinduMithraism Christianity baseofhindufilthyracism.

    Please visit limitisthetruth.com for causes of conflict between Muslims and non Muslim's.

    October 1, 2012 at 11:18 pm |
    • hinduMithraism Christianity baseofhindufilthyracism.

      Pickle juice is just another name for cuc.u.mber pickle-ism, dill weed ism, sour tart of back yard garden, old cuc.u.mbers with another pickled lid mason jar, feed humanity based on how many jars-ism of pri.ckly beef steak ism 180 tomatoes, okra, tomatoes too absolute american dill pickles in support of American bar food ism.

      October 1, 2012 at 11:43 pm |
    • manbearpig

      ^ Best post ever.

      October 2, 2012 at 1:56 am |
    • hinduMithraism Christianity baseofhindufilthyracism.

      hinduism, absurdity of a hindu, pickle head, from hindered gutter of hinduism, illegality called india.

      October 2, 2012 at 11:30 am |
  3. hinduMithraism Christianity baseofhindufilthyracism.

    From Day one of struggle for independent State of Pakistan, foundation of Pakistan has been LA E LA IL ALLAH, MOHAMMAD UR RASUL ALLAH, THERE IS NO TRUTH BUT TRUTH ABSOLUTE AND, SPIRIT OF TRUTH ABSOLUTE IS 'HIS' MESSENGER, foundation of consti trution of Pakistan. Any hindu criminal deviating from consti tution of truth absolute is a hindu, traitor to fundamental of truth absolute, foundation of existence every one and every thing including Pakistan and deserving of nothing less than punishment of a hindu, traitor, death, for commiting hinduism, treason by hinduism, corruption of truth absolute labeled as religions. No exception's.

    October 1, 2012 at 11:15 pm |
    • realbuckyball

      Islam is nothing but a moon god cult. In Ancient Arabia, the god "Sin" was worshiped by Muhammad's family. He turned a pase of that god, al"ilah, into Allah, and conflated the two. Mecca was the Temple of the Moon god. They worshiped 359 other gods also. Don't deny it. The world will eventually find out. All archaeologists know this. Your god is crap. It's a mythological moon god.
      http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/Thread-Ask-a-Muslim-split-from-introductions?page=25

      October 1, 2012 at 11:30 pm |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      sorry. pase = phase.
      Of course that moon god is why the crescent moon is on top of mosques to this day, and in Islamic nation's flags, and symbols.

      October 1, 2012 at 11:44 pm |
    • Alien Orifice

      Stupid Squirrels.

      October 1, 2012 at 11:49 pm |
    • hinduMithraism Christianity baseofhindufilthyracism.

      Ya, by hinduism, absurdity of a hindu, ignorant, but has nothing to with truth absolute of Islam.

      October 2, 2012 at 11:32 am |
  4. krm1007 ©™

    There is a prevailing elite culture in Pakistan that has a tendency to keep the illiterate populace in the dark. I will go as far as saying the Pakistani media, and Superior courts have been an accomplice in this endeavor with corrupt Government, and Army generals. I am going to quote the following that I am sure Americans and Europeans have every right to know particularly those of Jewish descent and of course Israelis.

    "It is no secret that Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda cronies sought inspiration from extremist groups in Palestine, Libya, Syria, and Iran including the branding of his al Qaeda (in Arabic, base for ALL other terrorist groups) by adopting the crescent Moon, a traditionally Islamic symbol and representation of Prophet Muhammad, as its marketing tool. The thesis being that like the several terrorist attacked were inspired by the inherently violent Saudi Wahhabi and the manifesto of its then extremist/terrorist groups still in existence today. These groups are now the successors to and carrying out the vision of Al Qaeda all over the world albeit in a clandestine manner, and being protected in Pakistan, responsible for death of many US/NATO service members."

    Let me present another issue in this disgraceful country called Pakistan:

    The Pakistan is a home of several terrorist outfits, if I list few here:

    Haqqani Network

    Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP)

    Lashkar-e-Omar (LeO)

    Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP)

    Tehreek-e-Jaferia Pakistan (TJP)

    Tehreek-e-Nafaz-e-Shariat-e-Mohammadi(TNSM)

    Lashkar-eJhangvi (LeJ)

    Sipah-e-Muhammad Pakistan (SMP)

    Jamaat-ul-Fuqra

    Nadeem Commando

    Popular Front for Armed Resistance

    Muslim United Army

    Harkat-ul-Mujahideen Al-alami(HuMA)

    Hizb-ul-Mujahideen (HM)

    Harkat-ul-Ansar (HuA, presently known as Harkat-ul Mujahideen)

    Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT)

    Jaish-e-Mohammad Mujahideen E-Tanzeem (JeM)

    Harkat-ul Mujahideen (HuM, previously known as Harkat-ul-Ansar)

    Al Badr

    Jamait-ul-Mujahideen (JuM)

    Lashkar-e-Jabbar (LeJ)

    Harkat-ul-Jehad-al-Islami(HUJI)

    Muttahida Jehad Council (MJC)

    Al Barq

    Tehrik-ul-Mujahideen

    Al Jehad

    Jammu & Kashir National Liberation Army

    People’s League

    Muslim Janbaz Force

    Kashmir Jehad Force

    Al Jehad Force (combines Muslim Janbaz Force and Kashmir Jehad Force)

    Al Umar Mujahideen

    Mahaz-e-Azadi

    Islami Jamaat-e-Tulba

    Jammu & Kashmir Students Liberation Front

    Ikhwan-ul-Mujahideen

    Islamic Students League

    Tehrik-e-Hurriat-e-Kashmir

    Tehrik-e-Nifaz-e-Fiqar Jafaria

    Al Mustafa Liberation Fighters

    Tehrik-e-Jehad-e-Islami

    Muslim Mujahideen

    Al Mujahid Force

    Tehrik-e-Jehad

    Islami Inquilabi Mahaz

    Al-Rashid Trust

    Al-Akhtar Trust

    Rabita Trust

    Ummah Tamir-e-Nau

    It is time to declare as Pakistan a failed terrorist State.

    October 1, 2012 at 10:18 pm |
    • hinduMithraism Christianity baseofhindufilthyracism.

      Foundation of existence is none other than TRUTH ABSOLUTE, and hindu denier of truth is none but a hindu, traitor to TRUTH ABSOLUTE,Deserving nothing less than his punishment of a hindu, traitor, death. No need to temper with law of Pakistan to please hindu's, deniers of truth absolute.

      October 1, 2012 at 11:23 pm |
  5. Mamluk of Mumbai

    GOD BLESS PAKISTAN,
    Land that we love.
    Stand beside her, and guide her
    Thru the night with a light from above.
    From Kashmir to Karachi and onto New Delhi,
    And to the oceans, white with foam
    GOD BLESS PAKISTAN, Our home sweet home.
    Home to the rich and poor and needy,
    Home to the Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists and everyone else
    GOD BLESS PAKISTAN, the Land of the Beautiful and the Brave.
    AMEN AMEN AMEN

    October 1, 2012 at 8:15 pm |
  6. Duke of Karachi

    All hands on deck, Pakistan.
    The world is lovely, bright and deep,
    But we have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before we sleep
    And miles to go before we sleep.

    October 1, 2012 at 8:14 pm |
  7. SitamBalam_Agra_Hindustan

    With such "Dark Age" culture still in existence in India how can the world be healthy and the neighbors prosperous. India poses a grave danger to the world and its deities and leaders set a bad example. Mahatma Gandhi, a pedophile, needs to be exposed and tried posthumously for his child molestation crimes just like the Penn State crowd Sandusky et al. Gandhi's statutes need to be knocked down everywhere they have been put in USA. The hindu deities need to be shattered and trashed. Disgusting figurines of ugly and scary looking characters with demonic personalities. How can hindu children grow up mentally stable looking at such atrocious representations of evil in its most heinous form.

    October 1, 2012 at 8:12 pm |
  8. Patrick

    Hinduism is a disgusting cult. Even to this day cross-cousin, father-daughter, mother-son, brother-sister, doing each other is common practice. Let me make it easy for you and refer you to the hindu scriptures and share it with the world. Shame on Hindus and barbaric Hinduism.

    Pushan is the lover of his sister [ Rg Ved VI.55.4 ][ Apte 11 ]
    The Ashvisns married Surya and Savitri who is their sister [ RV I.116.19 ].
    Agni is the son of his father and his sister [ Rg Ved.I.91.7 ]

    October 1, 2012 at 8:10 pm |
    • Pope

      Get a grip Patty. Lot had s'ex with his daughters. Did god kill him ? Mitochondrial Eve proves we are ALL the product of incest.

      October 2, 2012 at 4:48 am |
    • nope

      @poke...
      nope

      October 2, 2012 at 4:50 am |
  9. Amit-Atlanta-USA.

    Sometime back there was an interesting blog on India "The bubble of India has burst: Humpty Dumpty has Fallen”. We here in Haiti continue to monitor the political and cultural turmoil in India as a large percentage of our population are sugar cane slaves from India. As of now, we reiterate our view that Hindu State of India is in a precarious situation and that a geo-political implosion is imminent (if not already in process) and the need of the hour. As you will recall, India was initially broken into pieces by Arabs, Afghanis, Persians, Pakistanis, and lately by Chinese and so on. And rest assured that is not the end. India is mired in poverty and has a suppressive regime with respect to minorities. Substantial aid by the world over the years to India has failed to reverse the downward trends. We can now confirm that India has become unmanageable. If it is not imploded in a controlled manner we are afraid China will chew it up and spit it out. Therefore, we urge the UN general assembly to put this high on their agenda and vote “YES” to further breaking up India. We further propose the following areas be amalgamated with Bangladesh, Pakistan, Nepal and China. In God We Trust.
    Kashmir
    Bihar
    Punjab
    Himachal Pradesh
    Uttar Pradesh
    West Bengal
    Uttarakhand
    Rajasthan

    We wish our friends in India God Speed and may the courage of Maoists bless its soul.

    October 1, 2012 at 8:10 pm |
    • hinduMithraism Christianity baseofhindufilthyracism.

      Do not forget, before any one hindu's pagans of Egypt and Persia enslaved nomads of subcontinent by force and imposed hinduism, racism as religion on people of the region. hinduism, criminality is not a local product but result of hinduism, criminality of hindu's criminals.

      October 1, 2012 at 11:27 pm |
    • Amit-Atlanta-USA.

      what the fvk are you talking man? Have some mercy on average bloggers like us.

      October 2, 2012 at 1:40 am |
    • Pope

      Hindu dear,
      Put your light on, and ask the nurse for another pill.

      October 2, 2012 at 4:50 am |
  10. krm1007 ©™

    There is a prevailing culture that has a tendency to keep the populace in the dark. I will go as far as saying the media has been an accomplice in this endeavor. I am going to quote the following that I am sure Americans have every right to know particularly those of Jewish descent and of course Israelis.

    "It is no secret that Hitler and his Nazi cronies sought inspiration from Indian extremist groups including the branding of his Nazi Party by adopting the Swastika, a traditionally Hindu symbol and representation of Hindu god Ganesha, as its marketing tool. The thesis being that like the Norwegian massacre the Jewish holocaust orchestrated by Hitler was inspired by the inherently violent cult of Indian Hindus and the manifesto of its then extremist/terrorist groups still in existence today. These groups are now the successors to and carrying out the vision of Al Qaeda all over the world albeit in a clandestine manner."

    Let me quote another instance of this disgraceful disposition:

    It is no secret that Mahatma Gandhi (Hindu leader) was a pedophile. What is very disturbing is his relationship (!) and friendship with Hitler. He is known to have offered advice and encouragement to Hitler and his Nazi Party to undertake the Jewish Holocaust."

    A few months ago an auction was being arranged in Europe of Gandhi's letters and other artifacts corroborating the foregoing. Apparently, the Indian government with assistance from expatriate Indian businessmen muscled the auctioneers and put a stop to this auction.

    October 1, 2012 at 8:08 pm |
  11. Death to Islam!!!!!!!

    Pakistan is a terrorist state that uses terrorism on its own people. They should be put out of their misery and terror with lots of nukes. I have no patience with Muslims and doubt that any of them can be brought to sanity in any way. Death is better.

    October 1, 2012 at 7:51 pm |
    • Cale Keeble

      Whoa cowgirl.....!!!!

      It appears to me that Muslims are the fastest growing segment of world society today. As others are withering away the Muslims seem to be rising again with their contributions as was the case historically when they ruled India and Europe and left behind a legacy of science, art, architecture, culinary et al. One only needs to go to Spain and India to witness this. As immigrants, it is a good thing to be aware of your glorious heritage and be connected with it. The Italian immigrants do it as do the Germans, Polish, Jewish, Hispanic and many other cultures. What really pleasantly surprised me was what I witnessed in the Middle East. A tolerant and progressive Islamic society that has come so far in a few years. Most importantly providing job and economic opportunities to all, Hindus/Indians, Jews, Christians, Muslims, Europeans, Americans, Africans, South Americans, Chinese, and Russians etc. Never have I witnessed such openness and equal opportunities unless you go back to the times of Muslim rule in India and Spain. My conclusion is that the Muslims get it. They are striving to once again take their leadership role in the world order and take this civilization to its next level of excellence. The climb to success and progress is not a linear curve but a stochastic one. Let us join in wishing our Muslim brethren well and much success in their endeavors. If we can't help them let's not pull the rug from under them.

      October 1, 2012 at 8:13 pm |
  12. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things-

    October 1, 2012 at 7:33 pm |
    • HeavenSense

      Hi Prayerbot.

      October 1, 2012 at 7:37 pm |
    • hal 9001

      I'm sorry, "Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things", but your assertions regarding atheism and prayer are unfounded. The degree to which your assertions may represent truths is 0.0. To help you understand the degree to which your assertions may represent truths, I will access my Idiomatic Expression Equivalency module (IEE). Using my IEE module, the expression that best matches the degree to which your assertions may represent truths is: "TOTAL FAIL".

      I see that you repeat these unfounded statements with high frequency. Perhaps the following book might help you overcome this problem:

      I'm Told I Have Dementia: What You Can Do... Who You Can Turn to...
      by the Alzheimer's Disease Society

      October 1, 2012 at 8:29 pm |
  13. VeryMuchSnow

    The notion of blasphemy is as absurd as the cults of fictional creatures that feel threatened by it.

    October 1, 2012 at 7:14 pm |
    • Fred

      Right on. That was a lot of right on for one sentence, Snow.

      October 1, 2012 at 8:10 pm |
    • Hiding from Big Brother

      Don't let them hear you say that, they'll stone you to death :-O

      October 1, 2012 at 9:48 pm |
    • Pope

      We will burn you embassy.

      October 2, 2012 at 4:51 am |
  14. hinduMithraism Christianity baseofhindufilthyracism.

    Word Puke is based on Latin absurd word Puki, Pe or Pa, Te, or Ta, meaning from stomach ism 180 and throat base word for Sick in English, Upchuck, blowing chunks or spewing ism, meaning, worshiping at the porcelain throne or a sweaty, infection of puke absolute ism, such as flu, or Food poisoning, in disregard diarrhea or Montezuma’s revenge ism , One who takes a s.h.i.t to be in violation of his body without his consent, considering himself to be dying, the truth you drank too much tequila ism 180, same as in barfing, denier it doesn’t work, word projectile abused vomiting is based on Latin word vomi, icky, smelly, horrible, icky, to be in a pool of sick and HeavenSent, to be dumber than the fluids leaking from your absurd ravished body ism to both of them, watery eyes, a noun in missing work, puke in your nose, way of making absurd filthy you even sicker, as in word “ralph”, a self-violating or a ja.panese p.o.r.n.o, otherwise known as a freak, a sadist. Puking is not an accident but a way to clear the crud ism 180 from your mutilated digestive system, defiance to the Lysol and filthy towels you will use ism absurd 180 filthy ism.

    October 1, 2012 at 6:21 pm |
    • hinduMithraism Christianity baseofhindufilthyracism.

      Word Stan is based on Latin absurd word Satan, Sa, Se, Ta, Te, meaning land of devils.

      Paki-Satan sometime affectionately called "Pakistan" means land of puking devils in Latin. Muhammad Ali Jinnah, goon, a chain smoker tuberculosis patient, atheist Shia muslim lawyer never thought the country he fought so hard would really become a land of devils, al qaeda terrorist, drug cartels, heaven for world criminals, crooks, and criminals, and a battle ground for Sunni and Shia wars.

      October 1, 2012 at 9:47 pm |
  15. 24 Hour Crisis Center

    If you consult the dictionary, here is the first definition of God that you will find:

    "A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions.

    Most believers would agree with this definition because they share a remarkably clear and consistent view of God. Yes, there are thousands of minor (and some major) quibbles about religion. Believers express those quibbles in dozens of denominations - Presbyterians, Lutherans, Catholics, Baptists, Episcopalians, Methodists and all faiths. But at the heart of it all, the belief in God aligns on a set of core ideas that everyone accepts.

    What if you were to simply think about what it would mean if there were a perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe? Is it possible for such a being to exist?

    Epicures thought about it in 300 BCE, and he came up with this:

    "The gods can either take away evil from the world and will not, or, being willing to do so, cannot; or they neither can nor will, or lastly, they are both able and willing. If they have the will to remove evil and cannot, then they are not omnipotent. If they can, but will not, than they are not benevolent. If they are neither able nor willing, then they are neither omnipotent nor benevolent. Lastly, if they are both able and willing to annihilate evil, how does it exist?"

    In other words, if you sit and think about who God is supposed to be, you realize that such a being is impossible. Ridiculous, in fact.

    October 1, 2012 at 6:18 pm |
    • Towelie

      I don't even know what's goin' on.

      October 1, 2012 at 6:20 pm |
    • Pope

      God cannot be perfect. If there is a standard of perfection, to compare god to, it exists apart from god, and in order for god to be judged "perfect", they have to be separate.

      October 2, 2012 at 4:55 am |
  16. Towelie

    Zia-ul-Haq, do you want to get high?

    October 1, 2012 at 6:16 pm |
  17. CielExpédié

    Vous athées pensent croire les mensonges de satan fera de vous être collectivement mini-dieux. Je sac de mes excréments dans Sacs Glad parce que je ne peux pas aller à la salle de bain. Faites comme les athées faire dans ce pays pour assurer aux Etats-Unis va ventre en l'air .

    Amen.

    October 1, 2012 at 6:14 pm |
  18. 24 Hour Crisis Center

    Where do they get all of these dead virgins? By my calculations that would be roughly 576 million virgins a year to cover the male population of yearly deaths in Islam.

    So around 1500 years multiplied by 576 million virgins....conservative estimate, paradise has gone through about 864 billion virgins. That is a lot of virgins. How long can this go on?

    The Muslim world, like the Christian world, is manipulated by religious leaders in order to profit like any other business. It is easy if you have an audience that wants to hand you power, either because of promises or threats. In each case, the self-fulfilling prophecies of the "holy" books make the task simple.

    This is not dissimilar to the Republican cult...the worship of cash.

    Once one tastes the greed, they will hand power to those that would keep the money flowing in.

    October 1, 2012 at 6:05 pm |
    • ME II

      Yeah, the virgin shortage, that's the problem.

      October 1, 2012 at 6:18 pm |
    • 24 Hour Crisis Center

      @ME II

      Well, it isn't the only problem but it is probably the main problem.

      October 1, 2012 at 6:43 pm |
  19. Reality

    RATIONAL THINKING AND HISTORICAL REVIEW NEGATE THE NEED FOR THE WORD BLASPHEMY:

    ONLY FOR THE NEW MEMBERS OF THIS BLOG:

    1. origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482

    “New Torah For Modern Minds

    Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

    Such startling propositions – the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years – have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity – until now.

    The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine docu-ment. “
    prob•a•bly
    Adverb: Almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell.

    2. Jesus was an illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations (or “mythicizing” from P, M, M, L and J) and who has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a ma-mzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). An-alyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Ludemann, Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, ) via the NT and related doc-uments have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.

    The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hitt-ites, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.

    earlychristianwritings.com/

    For added "pizzazz", Catholic theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the "pew people" to go along with this trinity of overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the "filicider".

    Current RCC problems:

    Pedophiliac priests, an all-male, mostly white hierarchy, atonement theology and original sin!!!!

    2 b., Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immacu-late co-nceptions).

    Current problems:
    Adulterous preachers, pedophiliac clerics, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals and atonement theology,

    3. Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.

    This agenda continues as shown by the ma-ssacre in Mumbai, the as-sas-sinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, the Ft. Hood follower of the koran, and the Filipino “koranics”.

    And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.

    Current crises:

    The Sunni-Shiite blood feud and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder.

    4. Hinduism (from an online Hindu site) – "Hinduism cannot be described as an organized religion. It is not founded by any individual. Hinduism is God centered and therefore one can call Hinduism as founded by God, because the answer to the question ‘Who is behind the eternal principles and who makes them work?’ will have to be ‘Cosmic power, Divine power, God’."

    The caste/laborer system, reincarnation and cow worship/reverence are problems when saying a fair and rational God founded Hinduism."

    Current problems:

    The caste system, reincarnation and cow worship/reverence.

    5. Buddhism- "Buddhism began in India about 500 years before the birth of Christ. The people living at that time had become disillusioned with certain beliefs of Hinduism including the caste system, which had grown extremely complex. The number of outcasts (those who did not belong to any particular caste) was continuing to grow."

    "However, in Buddhism, like so many other religions, fanciful stories arose concerning events in the life of the founder, Siddhartha Gautama (fifth century B.C.):"

    Archaeological discoveries have proved, beyond a doubt, his historical character, but apart from the legends we know very little about the circu-mstances of his life. e.g. Buddha by one legend was supposedly talking when he came out of his mother's womb.

    Bottom line: There are many good ways of living but be aware of the hallucinations, embellishments, lies, and myths surrounding the founders and foundations of said rules of life.

    Then, apply the Five F rule: "First Find the Flaws, then Fix the Foundations". And finally there will be religious peace and religious awareness in the world!!!!!

    October 1, 2012 at 4:47 pm |
  20. tuvia

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    *****
    B"H

    SHALOM, SHALOM, PRAY FOR SHALOM

    SHALOM, YOM TOV.
    TUVIA *****

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=947by3X6_RU&w=640&h=360]

    September 7, 2012 at 10:31 am |
    • truth be trolled

      Hey tuvia – I already spit on your red cow, you idiot. Go peddle your caveman mentality somewhere else.

      October 1, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
    • 24 Hour Crisis Center

      We already commented on the article about the Ohio Sikh female student with nasty facial hair. You posted your video in the wrong blog.

      October 1, 2012 at 6:12 pm |
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