By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor
Washington (CNN) – A U.S. congressman is attracting attention and criticism for an online video that shows him blasting evolution and the Big Bang theory as “lies from the pit of hell” in a recent speech at a church event in his home state of Georgia.
“All that stuff I was taught about evolution, embryology, the Big Bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell,” U.S Rep. Paul Broun said in an address last month at a banquet organized by Liberty Baptist Church in Hartwell, Georgia. “And it’s lies to try to keep me and all the folks who were taught that from understanding that they need a savior.”
Broun, a medical doctor by training, serves on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology.
Speaking at Liberty Baptist Church’s Sportsman’s Banquet on September 27, he said that “a lot of scientific data that I’ve found out as a scientist that actually show that this is really a young Earth.”
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“I don’t believe that the Earth’s but about 9,000 years old,” Broun said in the speech, which Liberty Baptist Church posted on its website via YouTube. “I believe it was created in six days as we know them. That’s what the Bible says."
Scientists say that the Earth is roughly 4.5 billion years old and that the universe dates back 13.7 billion years.
In his speech to the church group, Broun called the Bible the “the manufacturer’s handbook. … It teaches us how to run all of public policy and everything in our society.”
“That’s the reason, as your congressman, I hold the holy Bible as being the major directions to me of how I vote in Washington, D.C., and I’ll continue to do that,” he said.
A spokeswoman for the congressman, Meredith Griffanti, said that Broun was not available for comment on Wednesday and that the video showed him “speaking off the record to a large church group about his personal beliefs regarding religious issues.”
The congressman’s remarks about science have drawn attention online, with critics taking aim at his role on the science committee.
Bill Nye, the popular science personality, told the Huffington Post in an e-mail that "Since the economic future of the United States depends on our tradition of technological innovation, Representative Broun's views are not in the national interest."
"For example, the Earth is simply not 9,000 years old," said Nye, a mechanical engineer and television personality best known for his program "Bill Nye the Science Guy." Broun "is, by any measure, unqualified to make decisions about science, space, and technology."
Talking Points Memo reported on the church video over the weekend after being tipped off by the Bridge Project, a progressive group that tracks conservative activity.
Most creationists believe in the account of the origins of the world as told in the Book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible.
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In the creation account, God creates Adam and Eve, the world and everything in it in six days.
For Christians who read the Genesis account literally, or authoritatively as they would say, the six days in the account are literal 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution. Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years.
The Gallup Poll has been tracking Americans' views on creation and evolution for 30 years. In June, it released its latest findings, which showed that 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution.
– CNN's Eric Marrapodi contributed to this report.
Well, as any good Boston Red Sox fan could tell you, you've probably got Carl Everett's vote!
he is just pandering to the religious to get re-elected. look at his job. he serves on the committee for science. either he is pandering to the plebs or should be kicked off the committee for lying about his true intentions
Either he's ignorant to believe what he does, or a liar for not admitting what he truly believes about science.
All those damn scientists, and those silly fossils, have led us on this conspiracy to disprove God. Why can't the existence of God and evolution BOTH be correct?? Why does one have to exclude the other??
Because one of those things is not like the other. One of those things just doesn't belong.
And the evidence for version of any god would be ....
It's not so much that God and evolution cannot coexist, it's evolution and God as represented by a LITERAL reading of the Bible that cannot coexist...
What an embarrassment to the Christian faith. It is people like this that are doing more harm to the spread of Christianity than the devil is. I am a Christian, and I believe that evolution is the mechanism by which God brought us into being. It is indeed humbling to realize that without Jesus Christ, we are no more than another species of highly developed ape. I wish these creationist nuts would shut up, because there are a lot more Christians like me out there, who have brains. A lot of them, though are scared to speak out for fear of being ostracized by others in churches. I am not. I fight this creationist prattle whenever it starts up in a church.
You are an embarrassment to the Human species.
But Bruce if the bible is the inspired word of god then how could you possibly believe in evolution when the bible clearly states that god made man out of clay or dirt or whichever version you read. By believing that evolution is a vehicle used by god to create man you are saying that the bible is wrong in this account. Imagine Bruce what else the bible got wrong. Why do we need a savior from original sin that could have been avoided if an omniscient god never created Satan in the first place?
Christians believe that the Bible is the inspired Word of God and that the Holy Spirit testifies to the truth of Scripture. So if you don't believe the opening pages of the Bible regarding Creation, how can you be so sure that the pages of the Bible speaking on salvation are truthful? What metric do you personally use to throw away some pages of the Bible and keep others? The Bible is an all of nothing instruction manual to life by the Almighty Creator (aka Jesus Christ). Never mind that Jesus also validates the 7 days of Creation in the New Testament. Do a little homework on this and you will see. And above all else, pray for God's guidance when reading the Scripture so that the Holy Spirit can guide you in your understanding of Scripture.
Now with that said, I am a chemist and when I talk to all my evolutionist buddies there is no way in heck they will every admit that God is guiding evolution–there is no God to them. And for Bible-believing Christians, the Bible says God did it all in 6 days. End of story. None of the devotees in either camp believes there is an overlap; each idea is mutually exclusive to those who actually study their respective belief. It is the fence-sitters that believe each field overlaps some (i.e., God used evolution). Fence-sitters deny neither a god nor evolution.
The questions then are: is a person a real Christian if they deny the Creator God's Word? Or, is a person a real evolutionist if they believe in a god?
We are talking about a congressman from Georgia, did you really expect anything different from this parasitic moron.
He need's religious dogma to get elected and where better to use this then down south omong the hicks.
Doesnt take much to get the GA drippy droolie tards excited. They are just a notch above a 3rd world coutnry witch doctor. lol
Towelie says, "If you are going to get drippy droolie tards excited, don't forget to bring a towel!"
You spelled "among" wrong. :)
Thanks for making Kansas look absolutely progressive in comparison to Georgia.
We haven't heard from Mississippi yet.
I support 'im! Good man.
What would you expect from someone representing the state that brought us, "honey boo boo"!
Whenever a congressman says something stupid, you know it's going to be a republican, lol.
I guess God planted dinosaur bones just as a joke!
MISERABLE BLASPHEMER THOSE ARE THE BONES OF THE WICKED SINNERS THAT PERISHED IN THE FLOOD! (s)
"Broun, a medical doctor by training, serves on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology."
Tells you all you need to know about the state of the US.
Rep. Broun is a loose cannon. That he can be allowed to serve on the House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is unthinkable. Take a few minutes to write to the Committee Chairman, Rep. Hall and ask that Rep. Broun be censured or removed from the committee.
How anybody can make their living by the knowledge earned from scientific study, then turn around and blast science as evil, is the very epitome of hypocrisy.
Good point. I can't see the bacteria, so I think the antibiotics he gave patients are lies from the pit of hell. What a piece of work!
You are at the Museum of Modern Art with a date. You have high hopes for this relationship. She is smart, pretty and a great cook. You just critiqued a group of Kevin Appel paintings when you felt a sudden urge to relieve your bowels. But where is the bathroom? Too late. And it is loose. You drag your smelly self to the elevator; she is behind you but gagging...
What a total ratard.
You are the ratard Tom.
Happy Wednesday Carl, you ignorant flat earther! You make humans look like ratards! Congrats.
Science flies you to the Moon.
Religion flies you into buildings.
Tom, when you can tell me what the hell a "ratard" is, then we can talk.
If you mean the urban definition that a ratard is cooler than a retard, then you are a retard.
Definition of a ratard: Carl.
Thank you Tom. And you really are clueless.
Church fathers (early Christian writers) said that the 6 days were not 24-hour days. They were ages. The Greek word for "day," just like the English word, can mean an age or era.
So evolution happened. But it was a directed evolution. Science will show that a totally random physical process could not have produced speciation as we have it now, for many reasons. For me, some of the objections to random evolution are: (1) intermediate species are selected out. Incipient organs or limbs are a hindrance. (2) For a new organ or development to be successful with the result that the change be passed on, too many genes would have to change, in the right manner, all at the same time. (Small changes in the genotype not significant enough to result in positive selection for that type, would not be selected for.) (3) Because of the chromosomal structure of inheritance, selection of a gene on a chromosome coding for a favorable change in the phenotype, would in most cases be accompanied by deselection of other favorable trends in other genes that happen to be on the same chromosome. (4) There is no satisfactory answer for how the immensely complex machinery for replication of DNA and for protein generation (ribosomes, etc) could arise by a random process. You can't get a protein without a ribosome, but a ribosome is made of protein. And similar issues. (5) Extreme rarity of intermediate species in the fossil record.
So, "... there was evening, and there was morning—the first day." (Gen 1:5) is just referring to the last sunset and sunrise of the first "age", is that is?
Where's your nobel prize?
so the alternative is it was magic? That makes more sense to you than the evolutionary process huh?
You you believe in an infinite progression of gods since your god is by nature complex and could not just happen without intelligent design?
1) ambulocetus and tiktaalik
2) "too many genes would have to change," "Small changes ... would not be selected for." What is your evidence for this?
3) First, "in most cases" does not preclude such things happening. Second, I'm not aware of a chromosomal limit on gene expression, e.g. why would a duplication error cause a deselection of some other trait?
4) evolution is not a "random process", it involves a selection factor with biases the process toward successful traits.
5) "rarity of intermediate species" how so? The meseums are full of fossils of intermdiate/transitional fossils: http://humanorigins.si.edu/
Sue, even though you throw around some big words, your ignorance of biology is obvious. I suggest you read some more advanced books before giving up on your search for the truth. I know that saying "God did it" is a much easier path for you to take, but I know you will find out that all of your doubts have much more logical answers that some man made diety. Maybe you should go to Afganastan where women aren't allowed to be educated.
There are no facts which we have, which prove how old the Earth is, how life itself began or even how humanity and consciousness came to be. Everything related to those "beginnings" which our scientists tell us, are simply their imaginations, backed up with some logic and tidbits of evidence. The reality is...we really don't have any clue how everything got started any more than humans did long ago. Does my saying this give support to the Biblical version of creation? No. Nor do I believe the fairy tale-ish version of it. All I am a saying is....we have come up with some great questions, questions which were also being asked thousands of years ago...and still, we do not have any firm answers. And it remains possible that life on this planet was created by a superior advanced being long ago. Is any of this from hell? No. But does science rule out a God-like being? No.
"are simply their imaginations, backed up with some logic and tidbits of evidence"
their imaginations huh? nothing to do with the scientific process, our understanding of physics, chemistry, biology, etc, its imaginations and 'tidbits of evidence'?
Nothing could ever rule out a god like being. Just like nothing could ever rule out the tooth fairy. But would you live your life around dogma related to the existance of the tooth fairy?
Theories regarding the beginnings of the universe (the Big Bang) or the how the diversity of life occurred (evolution by natural selection) are based on science. Science, by definition, seeks to explain phenomenon based on rational thought and logic; without resorting to a superior beings intervention to make it happen. Science does not say that god does not exist. It says that for the purposes of studying and explaining a system, one does not need god to make it happen. So you can believe in god if you wish, and you can use his power or will to explain your version of how the world works, but there is no way that you can use god's power or will as part of a scientific explanation. To do so is to contradict what science is all about.
"There are no facts which we have, which prove how old the Earth is,..."
Incorrect. While science doesn't deal in "proof", the is plenty of evidence for an old earth/universe, such as, Radiometric dating (not carbon dating), magnetic banding of the sea floor, plate tectonics, etc.
I am a Republican and never would have voted for this guy nor do the majority of republicans share his views. What in the heck is going on in Georgia? Brown is a Moron!
Go ahead and add Akin to that list.
What in the heck is going on in Georgia?
Inbreeding and producing more religo tards
Yeah...right...I use to be a Republican but left because of junk like this. It seems the only Republicans left vote party over country or intelligence. I'd bet you vote a straight Republican ticket every time.
46% of all adults believe "god" created humans in their present form less than 9,000 years ago. Amongst republicans that rises to 68% (Gallup)
Why does God allow the denizens of Hell to spread lies to us? That seems almost as foolish as creating imperfect beings and then punishing them for their imperfections.
“All that stuff I was taught about the Earth being round and not being the center of the Universe, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell,” U.S Rep. Paul Broun said.
All I can say is WOW!
Christians never taught that the Earth wasn't round.
Interesting! Actually during medieval times Christian clerics around the Mediterranean taught that the world was flat, and that the Mediterranean represented Jesus' body. Google "t-o maps". Looks like some GA congressman wants to go back to those days.
Then what was the Catholic Church doing when they threatened Galileo?
Oh, perhaps the Catholics aren't Christian???
And we're paying these backward buttheads to make policy for us in Washington. AND this particular backward butthead is allegedly a DOCTOR!
Um...attention AMA...can you please revoke this menace's license? Thank you very much. The thought of him being able to treat someone's illness or accident is making me quiver with revulsion. What would he do? Call on JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEBUS to stop the bleeding??
I so despise them, there's not even a strong enough word to describe my feeling.
Makes me wonder why we are doing so bad in science. Lets put more idiots like this guy in charge. Thanks GOP.
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