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October 10th, 2012
12:01 PM ET

Congressman draws fire for calling evolution, Big Bang ‘lies from the pit of hell’

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

Washington (CNN) – A U.S. congressman is attracting attention and criticism for an online video that shows him blasting evolution and the Big Bang theory as “lies from the pit of hell” in a recent speech at a church event in his home state of Georgia.

“All that stuff I was taught about evolution, embryology, the Big Bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell,” U.S Rep. Paul Broun said in an address last month at a banquet organized by Liberty Baptist Church in Hartwell, Georgia. “And it’s lies to try to keep me and all the folks who were taught that from understanding that they need a savior.”

Broun, a medical doctor by training, serves on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology.

Speaking at Liberty Baptist Church’s Sportsman’s Banquet on September 27, he said that “a lot of scientific data that I’ve found out as a scientist that actually show that this is really a young Earth.”

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“I don’t believe that the Earth’s but about 9,000 years old,” Broun said in the speech, which Liberty Baptist Church posted on its website via YouTube.  “I believe it was created in six days as we know them. That’s what the Bible says."

Scientists say that the Earth is roughly 4.5 billion years old and that the universe dates back 13.7 billion years.

In his speech to the church group, Broun called the Bible the “the manufacturer’s handbook. … It teaches us how to run all of public policy and everything in our society.”

“That’s the reason, as your congressman, I hold the holy Bible as being the major directions to me of how I vote in Washington, D.C., and I’ll continue to do that,” he said.

A spokeswoman for the congressman, Meredith Griffanti, said that Broun was not available for comment on Wednesday and that the video showed him “speaking off the record to a large church group about his personal beliefs regarding religious issues.”

The congressman’s remarks about science have drawn attention online, with critics taking aim at his role on the science committee.

Bill Nye, the popular science personality, told the Huffington Post in an e-mail that "Since the economic future of the United States depends on our tradition of technological innovation, Representative Broun's views are not in the national interest."

"For example, the Earth is simply not 9,000 years old," said Nye, a mechanical engineer and television personality best known for his program "Bill Nye the Science Guy." Broun "is, by any measure, unqualified to make decisions about science, space, and technology."

Talking Points Memo reported on the church video over the weekend after being tipped off by the Bridge Project, a progressive group that tracks conservative activity.

Most creationists believe in the account of the origins of the world as told in the Book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible.

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In the creation account, God creates Adam and Eve, the world and everything in it in six days.

For Christians who read the Genesis account literally, or authoritatively as they would say, the six days in the account are literal 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution.  Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years.

The Gallup Poll has been tracking Americans' views on creation and evolution for 30 years.  In June, it released its latest findings, which showed that 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution.

– CNN's Eric Marrapodi contributed to this report.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Bible • Christianity • Evolution • Politics • Science

soundoff (5,886 Responses)
  1. Pete

    Another anti-science wack job that the Republicans put on hte Science, Space and Technology committee – and he's hypocritical enough to pursue training as an MD and then espouse this kind of dreck? Science was just fine for you when you were trying to earn your living off of it! What is WRONG with that party?

    October 11, 2012 at 5:24 am |
  2. spangler

    We now know from genetics that had humans started with only Adam and Eve as a base, the inbreeding would have led to such birth defects and mutations that humans would only have lasted a few generations.

    October 11, 2012 at 5:20 am |
    • kenneth

      And Noah would have had to make passionate love to many nieces, and probably a few nephews.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:22 am |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      And why is there Neaderthal DNA in OUR DNA sequences ?

      October 11, 2012 at 5:29 am |
    • Theodoric of York

      There is no "why", no "reason" beyond physics. There is zero indication of any intelligent "design" throughout all of science.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:35 am |
  3. Theodoric of York

    Why would we want some schizoid fascist doing anything in Congress at all?

    October 11, 2012 at 5:14 am |
  4. Phazon

    How did man and Woman evolve at the same exact time to have offspring? Think about that for a second. Knowledge tells us that when a man and woman have children their children carry their genetical makeup ok we know humans cant impregnate anything other than humans. Ok? So what did the male who evolved first just wait for like 5 thousand or so plus years to finally be able to impregnate her? Cause we all know nothing in the past thousands of years has evolved so according to evolution this would be impossible. So how did man and woman evolve in order to have children are you telling me they evolved at the same exact time how did evolution know that it takes man+woman=child how did evolution know they needed air to breath? How did evolution know they needed food to eat how did evolution know they was at the right distance from the sun? How did evolution know to make us dumber than we was just a few thousand years ago how did evolution know that the more time goes on the sicker we become and the more things like cancer keep occurring more often? The reason why people believe in evolution is for a few reasons one they see false religions hypocrisy which is good but it should lead them to the truth not away from it. Second reason is because if they try and believe God doesn't exist then they wont be held accountable another reason is they think because of some fossils proves evolution but they never take into account that these could just be extinct species. Evolution is false and a faith because it doesn't have enough evidence to prove its real those that do say their is proof and believe in this proof while others say that it doesn't add up is faith.

    October 11, 2012 at 5:09 am |
    • kenneth

      Your thoughts are illogical and you have garbage reasoning.

      Go back to school or something.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:11 am |
    • Phazon

      You replied awfully quick did you even read it and illogical? How is that illogical because you cannot explain or is it that you are one of those people that think those who refute evolution are un wise? Don't sit and call my statement illogical if you cannot even offer up some sort of explanation to defend your statement of illogical.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:16 am |
    • kenneth

      Men and women evolved at the same time since men and women are the same species.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:19 am |
    • kenneth

      Graduate from community college, then we'll talk.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:19 am |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      And thus you have it folks More evidence why this country's education system is 32nd in the world. Oh my fvcking god. How can anyone deal with THAT sort of disordered reasoning. If he had said that i a Genetics class, he would get an F.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:20 am |
    • Theism is not healthy for anyone

      No, he's right. You are an idiot. Trying to say that males and females could not have evolved at the same time without the guidance of a magic invisible superbuddy is pretty damn stupid. And of course, things have evolved quite recently. Ever heard of anti-biotic resistant viruses? Didn't exist 75 years ago. Heck the flu mutates (evolves) as it goes around the globe in a couple months.

      So yeah, you are an idiot.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:20 am |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      Viruses are not "antibiotic resistant". Antibiotics are for bacteria, not viruses. But your point is correct.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:24 am |
    • kenneth

      If you attempt to telepathically communicate with your deity Yahweh/Jesus, they might give you some rational thought Phazon.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:24 am |
    • sam stone

      we are accountable to the same civil authorities as you. if you want to carry around the idea of a celestial judge, have at it. don't codify it in our laws, though

      October 11, 2012 at 5:26 am |
    • Bruce

      Wow, this is one scary post. Read any test books lately, or just the Bible?

      October 11, 2012 at 8:35 am |
  5. kenneth

    What educated adult would credulously believe that a bronze-age, middle-eastern deity named Yahweh impregnated an unknowing Jewish teenager, so Yahweh could be born in the form a Jesus, so he could be tortured to death for humanity's sins?

    If you were never exposed to Christianity as a child, and heard this as an adult, you'd laugh at its stupidity. The only reason why people are willing to put up with this nonsense if because they were exposed to these farcical ideas as children, and therefore, the don't seem so weird.

    October 11, 2012 at 5:08 am |
    • kenneth

      Personally, it boggles my mind that fellow humans could believe this, I consider them child-like creatures who still believe in fairy tales as adults.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:10 am |
    • Phazon

      First of all she did know and second of all that was His only begotten son. Think its stupid huh? Well maybe everyone isnt as spiritually dead as you.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:13 am |
    • kenneth

      And everyone isn't as gullible as yourself, believing Yahweh sent down his "son" to be brutally tortured and be a human blood sacrifice for our sins.

      And if you don't worship Yahweh/Jesus you well be eternally tortured in hell, but they love you!

      October 11, 2012 at 5:17 am |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      There were all kind of "sons of god" You say you are a "child of god". In Jesus day, a "son of god", just meant a "good guy". Go get an education. Fool.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:22 am |
    • sam stone

      "His only begotten son"?

      Does it make you feel all godly to speak like that?

      After all, phazon, you are so pious, we are all in fvcking awe.

      Spiritualy dead? Hardly. Just not spiritually enslaved to an iron age (or later) comic book

      October 11, 2012 at 5:32 am |
  6. spangler

    Should we encounter life on another planet who had no concept of our religions, that would be pretty good evidence that ours are home-grown, not universal. Yet this has already happened when Europeans found North and South American Indians had no concept of either the Jewish or Christian religions.

    October 11, 2012 at 5:03 am |
  7. billdeacons

    Near the outset of the Inquisition, in a letter of April 14, 1482, Pope Sixtus IV instructed the Spanish to ensure due process, allow legal counsel and appeal to Rome.[54] King Ferdinand defiantly rejected Papal control, the Inquisition becoming thereafter a tool of the monarchy, rather than the church.[54] In 1483, Ferdinand made Torquemada the Inquisitor General of most areas of Spain. One of the first books to challenge the classical view was The Spanish Inquisition (1965) by Henry Kamen. Kamen established that the Inquisition was not nearly as cruel or as powerful as commonly believed. The book was very influential and largely responsible for subsequent studies in the 1970s to try to quantify (from archival records) the Inquisition's activities from 1480 to 1834.[109] Those studies showed there was an initial burst of activity against conversos suspected of relapsing into Judaism, and a mid-16th century pursuit of Protestants, but the Inquisition served principally as a forum Spaniards occasionally used to humiliate and punish people they did not like

    Hardly qualifies as oppression thorughout the ages by Christians does it? Don't worry, most people get it wrong. It's a failure of their education. Like to try Salem witch hunts next?

    October 11, 2012 at 5:01 am |
    • Rational Libertarian

      Hey Torquemada, whadda you say?

      October 11, 2012 at 5:05 am |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      Let's hear about your popes with wives and kids and lovers as long as we're getting a History class, and how it was punishable by death to translate the Bible.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:10 am |
    • You are doing splendidly, Bill

      Intellectual honesty is not a strong point, is it Bill?

      But do continue. It's people like you who alienate the undecideds, for nobody but a zealot is going to buy your ugly lies.

      The Inquisition was due to kings, and not religion. Right.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:11 am |
    • billdeacons

      Mel Brooks. One of the greats

      October 11, 2012 at 5:11 am |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      And how they bought the papacy.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:11 am |
  8. Freethinker

    Hmm let me guess, just a wild thought, no other reason to think it, maybe just a hunch that this "congressman" is from the south? Oh my why lookie there he is from Georgia! What a surprise? Tell me why is it that such an idiot could not be from Vermont or California? Because no one would elect such an idiot from saner parts of the country. Makes me think that the civil war should have ended differently.

    October 11, 2012 at 4:58 am |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      He's a quack doctor, who coul;d not get a job as a doctor, so he did politics. He has no board certification.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:00 am |
    • galaxy101

      Yes, Fluffy, I actually wondered about that the moment I read he is a "medical doctor by training". Interesting choice of words by the author of this article.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:31 am |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      He did "house calls". That's it. He never worked for any accredited organization as he had no real training after school.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:37 am |
  9. escher7

    Just another chapter in a divided America, only this one is beyond the pale I can see some uneducated backwoods guy legitimately believing in a literal creation, but this is a doctor How anyone could make it through the required science courses and med school without grasping the fact of evolution confounds me. And 46% (There's that 46-47% number again.) believing in creationism? Galileo and others were persecuted and some even killed because they believed that the sun and not the earth was the centre of the solar system. Apparently those days are not over.

    Maybe evolution is not true – we certainly seem to be going backwards.

    October 11, 2012 at 4:57 am |
    • escher7

      "the earth and not the sun"

      October 11, 2012 at 4:58 am |
    • kenneth

      Roland, is that you?

      October 11, 2012 at 5:06 am |
  10. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    October 11, 2012 at 4:42 am |
    • GO_GOP

      Absolutely agree. Thanks for your post.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:46 am |
    • That was a world class faceplant, GOP

      Wow, GOPPY, talk about instantly discrediting yourself!

      October 11, 2012 at 4:49 am |
    • Bob

      How true. Prayer turns thinking minds into brainless slaves.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:52 am |
    • kenneth

      Attempting to telepathically comunicate with a bronze-age, middle-eastern deity changes everything.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:13 am |
    • Theism is not healthy for anyone

      Telling God what to do because he isn't doing it to your liking changes things

      October 11, 2012 at 5:16 am |
    • GO_GOP

      Well said.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:48 am |
  11. spangler

    Had the body of Jesus gone missing combined with reports he was still alive, the Romans would have searched for him to complete his sentence. There is no record of this taking place.

    October 11, 2012 at 4:32 am |
    • Phazon

      He only appeared to his apostles and those that did look for him the Romans didnt go looking for Jesus because they didn't want people thinking he was still alive I mean if your going to try and use the bible for your beliefs at least know what it says about the account.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:42 am |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      What happened to all the other zombies in Matthew he said were raised ? Why did no historian record the earthquake at the death or resurrection, the split racks, and the temple veil being torn ? Nope/ It's all just mythology. AND, it was a culture of "magical thinking". The so-called witnesses are unreliable. There is as much, or better evidence that the Salem witches actually WERE witches, than there is for the resurrection. Do they accept THAT evidence. Nope They pick and choose their "events", and cherry-pick their "evidence". What the gospel writers intended to say was the Romans had not "defeated" him. The disciples on the road to Emmaus did not even recognize him. The "body" was a "physical body" Physical bodies do not go through walls, and require food and sllep. Whatever it was, it was NOT a "physical body".

      October 11, 2012 at 4:47 am |
    • truth be told

      Since Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 A.D. there are few records of any kind from that era. Archaeologists have only recently discovered an artifact that references Pontius Pilate as Governor of Judea.Yet there remains more than enough evidences of the empty tomb from sources both pro and con.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:47 am |
    • Phazon

      Fluffy the Scribes and Pharasees didn't want the accounts recorded in thier history because they didn't want people thinking he was the Messiah.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:56 am |
    • scoobydoo

      My prime suspect is Mary of Magdala, she had something to do with the missing body. I admire the man Jesus , I would love to have walked with him and listen to his teachings. The man was a rebel and a mystic and had quite a few tricks up his sleeve. He was a good man, but I doubt he was God. It baffles me why the Romans thought they knew more about Jesus than Jews. They hijacked their religion and tried to exterminate them. Makes no sense.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:56 am |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      There is no "evidence" of any tomb. They don't even know where it is. You are a liar. Jerusalem was not destroyed until the Second revolt after the trun of the Century. The Temple was destroyed. NOT Jerusalem, in the 70's. You are either a liar, or an idiot.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:02 am |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      Bullsh1t. There are Roman historian, who had nothing to do with "scribes and Pharasees", who recorded every other earthquake and unusual event. THEY did not record this one. And what happened to the zombies that also rose ? No one says one thing about seeing them. It was a zombie invasion. Giver me a break.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:04 am |
    • Venkman

      Even the other gospels don't mention earthquakes. It is only in Matthew, in a totally non-contradictory way of course.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:13 am |
  12. scoobydoo

    The good news about all this , these clowns are dying out. 30 years from now there will be fewer idiots and bigots in the USofA. It's really difficult to lie to the next generation as more people get access to the internet. You can't lie to your kids about evolution anymore, you cant lie about gay people or the 9000 year old earth BS. You have to isolate a child to cultivate racism, i.e no computer, no cell phone, no tv etc. Also, in the age of quantum mechanics, string theory, advanced genetic engineering ,space exploration, I really don't think the bible can keep up. Sooner rather than later I will bet my house now that we are not alone! Maybe we even came from mars, curiosity will proove it.

    October 11, 2012 at 4:20 am |
    • GO_GOP

      Scooby: We won't die off. Don't you worry. We pray, listen to the Lord, do his work and will prevail over everything else. Seek Jesus and be saved.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:29 am |
    • scoobydoo

      GO_GOP, three score and ten , that's all you get, 1 day more is borrowed time. You will die out, your ideas will die out. Its called evolution. when a trait is no longer useful, it is abandoned.
      My grandfather was a baptist pastor. My father was spiritual , but he taught me to be rational. I have lived the life you struggle to live, morning prayers for years and years, I have read the bible cover to cover many many many times over the years it just stopped working. Curiosity is natures greatest gift to man, I can't help it.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:38 am |
  13. Theodoric of York

    When religion is outlawed, only outlaws will have religion.

    October 11, 2012 at 4:18 am |
    • Rational Libertarian

      When chocolate is outlawed, only outlaws will have chocolate.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:28 am |
    • Theodoric of York

      When being Libertarian is not rational, only irrational people are Libertarian. Better change your name one way or the other.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:39 am |
    • Rational Libertarian

      I love freedom and money. How is that irrational?

      October 11, 2012 at 4:40 am |
    • Phazon

      When Religion is outlawed then that means the prophecy in revelation has come true and it will only be a short period of time think with your heart not with your brain.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:45 am |
    • Christy Canyon

      It's rather sad that the word "libertarian" was hijacked by fringe right wing capitalists. It used to have a much better anarchic vibe, but now it's Ron Paul. Bleah.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:46 am |
    • Rational Libertarian

      Anarchy is good until you get gang r.aped and murdered by raiders.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:49 am |
    • Rational Libertarian

      Phaz

      I dunno about you but my heart pumps blood around my body. If your heart thinks for you, you're a medical anomaly.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:51 am |
    • Theodoric of York

      As a political ideology, Libertarianism has a lack of rational goals, methods, or doctrine.

      You emphasize your desires for small government with no rational support, and also advocate for a free market, which also has no rational basis.

      You do not include human weaknesses in your ideology.
      That is irrational and it does absolutely zero to give you freedom or criminal freedom, as the case may be.

      Your ideology is patently unworkable and therefore irrational – just like communism and fascism. You worship Ayn Rand, amirite?

      October 11, 2012 at 5:18 am |
  14. Theodoric of York

    The GOP is a FUPOSO. Fact.

    October 11, 2012 at 4:15 am |
  15. Eric Bloodaxe

    This is how the rest of the world, especially China, is going to overtake the US economically and then in other ways: we are going to fall behind in science and technology as religious fervor smothers them. Without them we have nothing to produce or contribute. It's truly shocking that the country that gave the world space travel, genome understanding, polio cure, home computers, and how many other breakthroughs is now trying to return to the Dark Ages. If you allow this passively to happen, it's your fault.

    October 11, 2012 at 4:13 am |
    • GO_GOP

      Eric: It is not science but religion that made this country great. It was christian values that made us great. Please read an American History book once in a while.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:18 am |
    • Rational Libertarian

      Russia gave the world space travel.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:31 am |
    • Sniffy Bob

      Their German scientists were a bit faster than our German scientists.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:53 am |
    • escher7

      Polio is still not curable. There is, however, a vaccine.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:05 am |
    • Michael

      @GO_GOP – Sorry, you're completely off base. This country was founded on the FREEDOM from religious persecution. It has been science through the past centuries that has made this country: transportation, steel production, the micro-processor, et al. Religion has brought this country NOTHING but division. What happened to "Do unto others"? Does that only apply if others believe as you do but not if they don't? I am not a Christian, BY CHOICE, and live a better honorable life (ergo, I don't lie, steal, cheat and am non-judgemental) than 99% of those that profess their belief. Am I wrong? Maybe, but in all truth, neither you nor I will know THE TRUTH until the moment we die; everthing else is conjecture ... or wishful thinking.

      October 11, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
  16. GO_GOP

    I admire this man. He has given up on political correctness and has shown the courage to speak the truth. This is what makes the GOP great. And yes anyone who does not believe in the word of the Lord (BIBLE) will burn in hell.

    October 11, 2012 at 4:10 am |
    • Theodoric of York

      Burn what, exactly? Without a body, what is there to burn? And for what? Some ignoramus religious violation? Right.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:26 am |
    • It's like this

      I never thought to that, Teddy. Fire only hurts a body. A lake of fire would have no impact on a soul. So maybe God is actually giving us great mood lighting for our afterlife party.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:37 am |
    • billdeacons

      Yeah, you go with that

      October 11, 2012 at 4:45 am |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      What is the fuel ? ALl of the Old Testament, the concept of Sheol in Jewish culture was the "underworld". NOT "hellfire". St. Paul said ONLY the redeemed have eternal life. Who is going to be in hell ?

      October 11, 2012 at 4:50 am |
    • Peter

      Do tell us, billy, how fire is supposed to hurt a non-physical being.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:52 am |
    • sam stone

      f you and f your god, go_gop

      October 11, 2012 at 5:16 am |
    • billdeacons

      Are you telling me you've never been burned from the torment of your own inadequacy? Failure to love? Loss of hope? Abandonment by friends? Loss of reason or place?

      No wonder you don't believe, you've never lived

      October 11, 2012 at 5:16 am |
    • billdeacons

      sam is always so erudite

      October 11, 2012 at 5:17 am |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      Suffering requires time. The spiritual realm has no spacetime. Try harder Bill.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:27 am |
    • Peter

      So you take the bible non-literally and say the lake of fire isn't fire but emotional distress?

      Maybe God meant heartburn, which isn't fire either.

      And duh, you need a body to feel all those things, bill. They are electrochemical reactions to various stimulae, nothing more. Only humans aggrandize a natural process into some grandiose spiritual theory.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:27 am |
    • Theodoric of York

      I've never been "burned" from such things. And I cannot sin against a non-existent "god", so your threats are empty.

      You might as well threaten me with an imaginary wet noodle. It has the same effect on me. Care to try again, billdeacon?

      October 11, 2012 at 5:29 am |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      Exactly Peter. Consciousness ONLY arises in complex molecular level systems. Nowhere else, (yet) that we know of. Tuesday 2 men got Nobel prizes who explained how cells interact with their environments. That requires a functioning brain, (which we know from "brain damage" can be altered), and time for it to happen in. These idiots have no clue what they are talking about.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:34 am |
    • sam stone

      billy boy......go_gop is a troll. no use in trying to reason with a troll. if someone wants a rational discussion, then let's have it. if someone wants to be a troll, then they get troll like comments in return. if that bothers you.....don't read my comments.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:41 am |
  17. spangler

    The word 'abomination' is used 65 times in the OT and 2 times in the NT. The only named abomination in the NT is Luke 16:15 where Jesus calls the love of money an abomination. Many more speeches need to be given about this one.

    October 11, 2012 at 4:00 am |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      There re many more times than that. There are levels of "abominations".
      Cultural abominations, personal abominations, and abominations to God.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:52 am |
  18. Sydney

    Anyone who believes in evolution has to be nuts ??? When I was ten years old I figured out that I had not seen a half pig and a half whatever you believe it evolved from ??? Come on, think !!!! Couldn't happen, and yes, God did create all this in however long you thinkk a day or six days are ?? Some of you may have come from monkys, but I came from a caring, creative God !! Where are the half monkys and half humans ???? Think, and use that thing on your shoulders called a head with a brain in it ???? The bible says we are created in god's image, but of course, if you don't believe in the bible as accurate, continue in your blind, foolish, absense of faith in a supreme being, called God. I choose to follow HIM !!!! Makes more sense !!!!!!!!!!!

    October 11, 2012 at 3:52 am |
    • scoobydoo

      ET phone home. SALOPARD!

      October 11, 2012 at 4:01 am |
    • mdell27

      Why do creationists have such a difficult time with spelling.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:07 am |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      Idiot. Take a science class. You have no clue what the word Evolution means.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:53 am |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      The men who wrote the Bible had no clue what happened. How could they ?
      A book written BY believers, telling themselves WHAT they believed, cannot then be used to tell them what they do no already know. It's 100% circular logic. Go get an education. And no. People do not believe a 2500 year old book.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:56 am |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      Do you believe other 2500 year old books ?

      October 11, 2012 at 4:57 am |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      Furthermore You DO believe in Evolution. If you were in jail, unjustly accused, YOU would use DNA to get out. You DO believe in Evolution. You are just too uneducated to understand why DNA proves Evolution.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:59 am |
    • Bruce

      You must have missed the link on the Answers in Genesis website that says which arguments are not to be used. Your post is total nonsense.

      October 11, 2012 at 8:58 am |
  19. jamnee

    I cannot understand the level of ignorance in the United States. To think the earth is 9,000 years old is ridiculous. Especially with all the evidence that shows otherwise. It seems like politics and religion makes people believe utter nonsense. We have no hope as long as more than half our nation believes in mythology and the supernatural for their explanation of the origin of life.

    October 11, 2012 at 3:51 am |
    • GO_GOP

      You are wrong sir. It is religion and specifically christian religion that has made this nation great. Period.

      October 11, 2012 at 3:56 am |
    • Theodoric of York

      This is what comes from allowing corporations to pollute the environment with toxins that damage brain function.
      Religions need gullible and stupid people to function profitably.
      Remove the greed angle from religion and watch them all disappear overnight.

      October 11, 2012 at 4:06 am |
    • GOP is a FOP

      Yup! They burned witches in Salem and refused to put out fires started by lightning and supported slavery and had nothing to do with creating the Constitution and lynched blacks and just so many other wonderfully American things!

      October 11, 2012 at 4:10 am |
    • billdeacons

      In western Europe and the Americas, abolitionism was a historical movement to end the African slave trade and set slaves free. Although European colonists, beginning with the Spanish, initially enslaved natives, the Dominican priest Bartolomé de las Casas helped convince the Spanish government to enact the first European law abolishing colonial slavery in 1542;

      October 11, 2012 at 4:47 am |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      Was this before or after the Catholic Spaniards slaughtered all the Mexican and South American Indians for not converting.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:14 am |
    • billdeacons

      In fact, the missionary work of the Roman Catholic Church in Quechua, Nahuatl, and Guarani actually contributed to the expansion of these American languages, equipping them with writing systems.

      The 1510 Requerimiento, in relation to the Spanish invasion of South America, demanded that the local populations accept Spanish rule, and allow preaching to them by Catholic missionaries, although it did not demand conversion.[5][6] Slavery was part of the local population's culture before the arrival of the conquistadors. Christian missionaries provided existing slaves with an opportunity to escape their situation by seeking out the protection of the missions.

      On December 1511, the Dominican friar Antonio de Montesinos openly rebuked the Spanish authorities governing Hispaniola for their mistreatment of the American natives, telling them "... you are in mortal sin ... for the cruelty and tyranny you use in dealing with these innocent people".[7][8][9] King Ferdinand enacted the Laws of Burgos and Valladolid in response. Enforcement was lax, and while some blame the Church for not doing enough to liberate the Indians, others point to the Church as the only voice raised on behalf of indigenous peoples.[10]

      Nevertheless, Amerindian populations suffered serious decline due to new diseases, inadvertently introduced through contact with Europeans. Multiples more Native people died from lack of resistance to European born disease than from atrocity.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:37 am |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      They came for the gold Bill. You can justify oit any way you want. They wanted the gold, and only the gold. They justified it by saying it was "missionary" work. You actually think they gave Indians a choice ? You are so fvcking deluded.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:43 am |
  20. allenwoll

    Please let me upset the Extremists ! ! . There were/are three guys/gals involved -

    1. Creator - Prtovided the raw "stuff" of the Universe - Space, Matter, Time.
    2. Designer/Engineer - Used the stuff to creates the Laws of Physics, together with the Galaxies, Suns, Planets, etc.
    3. Operator - Operates the Universe on an Eon-to-eon . . . . Hour-to-hour basis.

    This last one is the troublemaker - He is either a Student, an Intern or an Incompetent ! ! ! . I favor this last !

    Higher animals EATING higher animals, indeed : BARBARIC ! ! ! . Most ANYONE could do better than THAT ! ! !

    OK, all you pat religionists : DEAL WITH THAT ! ! ! . Do I hear (squirm, squirm) ? ?

    October 11, 2012 at 3:43 am |
    • Fluffy the Gerbil of Doom

      You forgot all the others. 1 and 2 and 3 could have other higher orders in their categories. All that is is "proximate" cause and designer and operator. An omnipotent god could have created a designer to design a designer, etc.

      October 11, 2012 at 5:17 am |
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