By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor
Washington (CNN) – A U.S. congressman is attracting attention and criticism for an online video that shows him blasting evolution and the Big Bang theory as “lies from the pit of hell” in a recent speech at a church event in his home state of Georgia.
“All that stuff I was taught about evolution, embryology, the Big Bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell,” U.S Rep. Paul Broun said in an address last month at a banquet organized by Liberty Baptist Church in Hartwell, Georgia. “And it’s lies to try to keep me and all the folks who were taught that from understanding that they need a savior.”
Broun, a medical doctor by training, serves on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology.
Speaking at Liberty Baptist Church’s Sportsman’s Banquet on September 27, he said that “a lot of scientific data that I’ve found out as a scientist that actually show that this is really a young Earth.”
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“I don’t believe that the Earth’s but about 9,000 years old,” Broun said in the speech, which Liberty Baptist Church posted on its website via YouTube. “I believe it was created in six days as we know them. That’s what the Bible says."
Scientists say that the Earth is roughly 4.5 billion years old and that the universe dates back 13.7 billion years.
In his speech to the church group, Broun called the Bible the “the manufacturer’s handbook. … It teaches us how to run all of public policy and everything in our society.”
“That’s the reason, as your congressman, I hold the holy Bible as being the major directions to me of how I vote in Washington, D.C., and I’ll continue to do that,” he said.
A spokeswoman for the congressman, Meredith Griffanti, said that Broun was not available for comment on Wednesday and that the video showed him “speaking off the record to a large church group about his personal beliefs regarding religious issues.”
The congressman’s remarks about science have drawn attention online, with critics taking aim at his role on the science committee.
Bill Nye, the popular science personality, told the Huffington Post in an e-mail that "Since the economic future of the United States depends on our tradition of technological innovation, Representative Broun's views are not in the national interest."
"For example, the Earth is simply not 9,000 years old," said Nye, a mechanical engineer and television personality best known for his program "Bill Nye the Science Guy." Broun "is, by any measure, unqualified to make decisions about science, space, and technology."
Talking Points Memo reported on the church video over the weekend after being tipped off by the Bridge Project, a progressive group that tracks conservative activity.
Most creationists believe in the account of the origins of the world as told in the Book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible.
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In the creation account, God creates Adam and Eve, the world and everything in it in six days.
For Christians who read the Genesis account literally, or authoritatively as they would say, the six days in the account are literal 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution. Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years.
The Gallup Poll has been tracking Americans' views on creation and evolution for 30 years. In June, it released its latest findings, which showed that 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution.
– CNN's Eric Marrapodi contributed to this report.
Jesus thus absolutely endorsed the Big bang and Evolution
as the most Powerful and Superb "Creation Acts" of GOD
through the "Language of Mathematics" now:
==UNIVERSAL MAGNIFICENT MIRACLES!
Hooray for green ink websites. My favorite is the time cube.
When your soul exists the body it is housed in, and you keep falling, hearing the sounds of that place of the damned where you're heading comming nearer... the sounds of d desti'tute, hopelessly weeping and mourning in the place where no one comes out of, you'll wish you never made mockeries of the blood of Jesus Christ, the only hope there is for your wretched miserable, leprosy (sin) infested soul.
There are some of us who, by God's mercy, have been given to hear them ahead of time. Human beings have never heard such weeping, not in this world...
But you make sport to yourself mocking things you know nothing about, and hope for reward of laughs from fools as yourself , to boost your ego...
You don't know what awaits you, dear soul....If you keep on, on the road you're on, you'll find out what I'm talking about.....and the words of this warning will haunt you all your eternity. But you still have time, and God's hand of mercy is still stret'ched out toward you.....
Will you still mock after you see these words?
Prism really get off, (literally??) on the suffering of others. He delights in feeling superior, and self-righteous.
Aquinas said that part of the joy of haeven would be to see the suffering of the souls in hell. How twisted can one get.
Actually St. Paul taught that only the saved had eternal life. So , not to worry folks. Christianity says if you're not saved, your ok.
so, only SOME science is real, like the science that leads to medical treatments, but all the other stuff "lies from the pit of h*ll"... interesting. he believes in the stuff he can he turn a buck at, but all that other stuff is hogwash. ppl like this, who seem to think science and faith don't/can't/shouldn't mix, are the real dinosaurs. i personally feel that there is enough historic evidence, much of it gathered BY SCIENTISTS, to prove, at the very least, that there actually was an historical personage named jesus who had a sort of entourage of like minded ppl with a message they wanted to spread. idk how or why an entire religion came to be built around that man, and i really don't care. i bet this oaf is perfectly o.k. with the archeologists who found philip's tomb ( or think they did, if you like), and i bet it's just fine that carbon dating is used to verify how old anything in that tomb is, but the same carbon dating that shows something being older than 9,000 years would be a lie? all the back and forth over the shroud of turin... science says it's old enough to be the real deal, great. then science says, "whoopsie! we were wrong!" and it's all a lie. now they've come back again and said," well, look, this test shows that it actually COULD be the real deal" and science is o.k. again? there are so many inconsistencies in church doctrine, but this one is one of my pet peeves, telling "the flock" to disbelieve tried and true scientific practice when it doesn't jibe with that doctrine, and in virtually the same breath saying it's o.k. to believe the same when it suits their needs to keep the sheep penned.
Very well stated. Thank you.
Science has show that the Shroud of Turin was a marketing tool for the town to draw in the rubes, I mean pilgrims.
No idea what this says, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's, "Please teach your children religious dogma instead of science, America...we want more of your jobs."
FALSE. ALLAH IS ZERO. CONSTANT IS 1. ALLAH IS STILL ZERO.
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"China's best, we will rule the earth
The ability to bow down to God
God loves to hate America
Romney is a friend of China, he will win
LAUGHING win in the end, the suction"
"32% believed in evolution guided by God" I get a giggle out of the fact that the anti-evolution theists have no problem with calling thier own kind stupid.
By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.
It doesn't take faith to know that objects are made of atoms.
Faith is pretending to know something you don't know.
Please go spew this stuff to a bunch of high rastafarians.
Oh dear, Gullible's Travels, part 1.
How does Lucy (Australopithecus) not prove evolution?
Can you post your questions in tha affirmitive rather than the negative?
You don't even have to go back that far, domestication proves evolution.
Lucy proves evolution. If you disagree, then post why.
Who are you talking to? I'm agreeing that evolution is a reality.
Won't somebody PLEASE think of the children!
We can't keep teaching them the false ways of the devil. God's Word MUST be taught in our schools before it's too late!
How YOU teach your own kids religion, MOM.
That way we can trade in our relatively free society and advanced for a repressive and backwards theocracy, just like the ones that flourish throughout the Middle East! Listen to SoccerMom, people! It's for the CHILDREN!
Yes I totally agree, for where else will we find the people to fill the menial service jobs in our economy if it were not for the existence of a vast pool of scientifically illiterate people.
But all American Children need to know what's right in the eyes of the true GOD! If we don't start now, the muslims will take over
As a religious person, I must say that by denying science you’re making religion look absurd.
You need a LOT more education and less involvement in soccer, OKAY?
Poe's Law, SoccerMom. I accuse you of trolling. Hard to call it clever trolling because Poe provides such an easy cover.
Well mother, If you take a look at history, prayer was taken out of school because theists did not want other theists to teach thier kids how to pray. Just take a look at all of the denominations, Christians can't even get along with other Christians.
You are probably brainwashing your children in your beliefs at your home and church, so sad. Please do not try to force your belief system on my and others children who reject your religious beliefs in the school system. The statement "lies from the pits of hell" would be ridiculous coming from any reasoning, logical person, let alone a member of congress.
Gods way is ignorance and hate. Science is truth and wisdom
mom – the first time i read this i was pretty certain it was a joke.
after reading moms second post i am certain this is a joke.
Someone who wears their ignorance of science like a badge of honor.
if given a choice, believe the God. Not the silly human.
I can typically verify the existence of the silly human. God, not so much.
You're a silly human.
Another Christian fallacy. Beliefs are not choices.
Why would I want to believe in something that a much less-educated person made up thousands of years ago? That's what is silly you silly fool.
You don't know about God or what he says, except that silly human beings tell you so. Not just any silly human beings, but silly human beings who lived thousands of years ago when many believed in Zeus.
Yes, the bottom line is that the controversy is about much more than science, it is about the heart of man – which, taking his cue from the diatribes of Voltaire and others like him against God, seeks to deny all sovereign action of God in creation, providence, salvation and judgment. Thus modern man rebuilds his view of reality into one that God is absent, with the illusion of receiving therefore his freedom.
Before I kowtow to this god you keep name dropping, I need to know he's really up there, and he's who you think he is, and not Odin, Buddha, Elvis, or what you have. Faith isn't good enough for me. So back up your claims.
The reason we can and should 'rebuild our reality into one absent of god' is that there is no reason to believe any of the gods man has come up with exist, and many reasons to think they don't.
If Creationism is true than how do you explain the existence of Dogs, and the many differences between the breeds? How do you explain the process of domestication? Dogs exist today because Wolves were domesticated around 15-20,000 years ago.
No, it's about reason .vs. mythology. You fanatics need to stop discarding science when it threatens your delusions.
I have a good friend who works for Exxon-Mobile. He is a geologist engaged in searching for oil and other fossil fuels in Africa. They know where to look for oil based on the ages of the rocks and their location during the Carboniferous Period, which is when the vast mats of plankton and other small sea creatures were laid down, that gradually turned to oil over the tens of millions of years.
Fortunately, I have a creationist friend called PAUL BROUN, who has told me that fossil fuels are not made of fossils at all, as the world is only six thousand years old and started with the Garden of Eden and a magic talking snake! So, I will write to my friend and tell him to stop looking where they usually find oil, as that has just been a lucky coincidence. God must have buried some there to fool them.
What a playful, loving god we have, and isn’t PAUL BROUN smart!
A friend of mine (who was actually valedictorian of our high school) went into the field of paleontology. He works at the University of Melbourne in Australia, where they are doing research on the earliest Aboriginal settlements in Australia and the development of the many hundreds of languages spoken by the Aboriginals in Australia.
Their latest theories suggest that man made it to Australia at least 60,000 years ago, during the penultimate Ice Age and that their languages diversified as they spread throughout the continent.
Fortunately, I have a creationist friend called PAUL BROUN, who has informed me that this can’t be right, as the World is only one tenth as old (about 6,000) years and that all Australian Aboriginal languages were made by god in the Tower of Babel. Further, the Ice Ages did not even happen.
It makes me wonder where Australian Aboriginals come from if they were not on Noah’s ark and evolution is a lie, but I’m sure I’ll find the answers in the Bible.
Thanks PAUL BROUN– it’s incredible how much smarter you are than the most gifted archeologists and paleontologists in the World!
You do not know your friend too well: he believes it is 9,000 years old!
And that 3,000 year difference is significant how?
Ronald Reagan created the eleventh commandment for his political party "thou shall not speak evil for fellow republican"
It prompts me to ask the eleventh question for this test.
Q. 11 If I believe a bearded creature created Adam and Eve and they gave birth to two boys therefore I am a descendant of these two boys.
(a) I am a republican
(b) I am a preacher making millions
(c) I am a closet h.om.os3xual admiring Abel and Cain for giving birth to the human race
(d) All of the above.
I have a friend who works for the Center for Disease Control in Atlanta, Georgia. He was telling me how a new strain of Bird Flu has evolved with a resistance to the strongest vaccines we can throw at it. The best immunologists in the World believe it evolved in parts of India or China where the regular contact between chickens and humans allows easy vectoring to humans.
Luckily, I have a creationist friend who is a doctor who has corrected me. PAUL BROUN tells me Evolution is a lie from hell. All life was created in its current form about 6,000 years ago by a Bronze Age sky god they called “Yahweh,” who we now call “God”.
So, the Center for disease Control will immediately stop researching the evolution of disease and close down, so their researchers can go home and read their Bibles to find a cure for bird flu there.
Thanks PAUL BROUN, you have saved the taxpayer even more money!!
Typical misunderstanding: Creationists do not deny microevolution (which is the case in this bird-flu issue), but they do deny macro-evolution: evolution from one species to a different one (eg. fish to squirrel). Evolutionists tends to "prove" Darwinism by showing well known cases of micro-evolution, (which of course, are true), to prove macro-evolution.
In other words, pick 'n choose accepted science to make things fit the bible (Gullible's Travels) – is that what you mean, delaterra?
Please explain exactly what mechanisms in biology and/or nature prevents multiple micro changes from accu.mulating into a macro change.
This guy can't even believe microevolution because he doesn't believe the earth is more than 7000 years old! Much of the microevolution evidence we have still takes way more time than that.
'micro' and "Macro" evolution are terms made up by Creationists when they got backed into a corner and science could irrefutably demonstrate evolution in action.
The difficulty is demonstrating what you term "macro" evolution is the time frame involved. It typically takes tens of thousands of generations for evolutionary changes to be visible to the naked eye – something which cannot be readily demonstrated with organisms that live longer than a tse-tse fly.
However – there have been observed instances of speciation in more complex creatures.
For example, there is a group of birds on the Galapagos Islands known collectively as "Darwin's Finches".
Scientists Peter and Rosemary Grant have been doc/umenting these birds for almost 4 decades.
IN 2009, they published a study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences in which they described how one species of finch split off into two distinct species.
I have a friend who works for NASA. He was telling me how the latest photographs from the Hubble space telescope are revealing galaxies in the early stages of formation, from about 13 billion years ago. The discoveries are advancing science at an incredible rate and helping us develop very sophisticated theories of galactic formation.
Fortunately, I have a creationist friend from North Georgia called PAUL BROUN who informed me that the entire Universe and its billions of galaxies, each with billions of stars and planets was all created only 6,000 years ago by the Christian god with an emphasis on Earth and one man, one woman and a magic talking snake.
Thanks PAUL BROUN, if it wasn’t for you, I would believe people like Isaac Newton, Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawkins. Now, I just read my Bible.
I am glad you believe Isaac Newton who, by the way, believed everything was created by God. Do you also believe that? :-)
Newton also believed in Alchemy. They only information from Newton we should accept is what he was able to demonstrate.
Newton showed logically and/or experimentally that his theory of gravity was mostly accurate (later improved upon by Einstein). He did not do so regarding his belief in God.
It's not the person, it's the data.
My phrenologist says that alchemy is a perfectly legitimate science.
The denial of God is not a scientific conclusion, but a yearning of a humanity in search of a false autonomy, a yearning that has been covered under the disguise of a philosophical or a scientific jargon.
@delaterra The "denial of god" or more accurately, a lack in belief in god is a conclusion based on a lack of evidence.
god, heaven, hell, the devil, angels,, etc etc all just fantasy...
I have a friend who is on an archeological dig in the Republic of Croatia. He emailed me about how they had found the remains of the earliest ho.mo sapiens outside of Africa, dating to a couple of hundred thousand years ago. There is an entire research team there from Oxford University’s paleontology department, the most respected in the World.
Fortunately, I have a creationist friend called PAUL BROUN who informed me that the entire World began only 6,000 years ago with man already totally evolved (and with a talking snake). So, I am going to write to the team and tell them to all fold up their tents and go home and read their Bibles. The answers to the natural history of the human species are all in there.
Thanks PAUL BROUN, you have made me really smart!
Go home and read your bible, heathen. The gates of hell are opening due to your blasphemous ways!
Gah, it hurts. The more we evolve, it seems, the more some devolve.
Ok, 10 questions are a little too much for your average Congressman. Let's make it five.
A quick five question test that every aspiring candidate for public office, Republican or Democrat, should be required to pass.
Q.1 The best theory we currently have is that Universe was created about 13.7 billion years ago in what is (somewhat misleadingly) called the Big Bang. To understand this we should:
a. Simply declare that, because we don’t know what caused the Big Bang, the Hindu god Brahma must have created the Universe.
b. Simply declare that, because we don’t know what caused the Big Bang, God must have created the Universe.
c. Adopt the Australian Aboriginal belief that the Universe was created by a great snake in the Dreamtime; or
d. Accept the limits on our current knowledge and just stop there, without invoking a magic act by any god to fill the current gap in our knowledge.
Q.2 Likewise, we know that life on Earth evolved over the last approximately 3.5 billion years and likely began in a planet wide “organic soup” of complex organic chemicals in the primordial oceans, in an increasingly well understood process. As such, we should:
a. Look for any limitation in our knowledge and, when we find one, jump up and say “aha, scientists cannot yet fully explain (for example) how DNA synthesis first occurred, therefore the Judeo-Christian god did it.”
b. Look for any limitation in our knowledge and, when we find one, jump up and say “aha, scientists cannot yet fully explain (for example) how DNA synthesis first occurred, therefore the Hindu god Brahma did it.”
c. Simply read our Bibles and find the answers there; or
d. Continue our scientific research and experimentation and not make the bald faced assertion that any god, ghost or goblin must have conjured up life through some inexplicable act of magic.
Q.3 The statement “I believe in God because the Bible tells me to and the reason I follow the Bible is because it is the word of God” is:
a. The reason 99% of Christians believe what they do;
b. Circular reasoning at its most obvious;
c. Specific to the Judeo-Christian parts of the World and totally rejected by all other parts of the World; or
d. All of the above.
Q.4 Probably the most fundamental tenet of Christian faith is that God sent his son Jesus to Earth to die and save us from the original sin of Adam and Eve. We now know that Adam and Eve was a myth. As such, any thinking Christian should:
a. Honestly and courageously question this and any other aspects of their faith that don’t make sense.
b. Make up some euphemistic nonsense like “well, we didn’t mean that literally” after having done exactly that for the last 1900 years until science comprehensively disproved it.
c. Just ignore the blatant contradiction and sweep it under the mat; or
d. Hold on to the myth because it makes them feel good.
Q5. Please choose your favorite Catholic superst.ition from those below. For the one you choose, please say why it is any more ridiculous than the rest of the garbage Catholics swallow and give an example of a non-Catholic belief which is just as stupid.
a. Grocery store bread and wine becomes the flesh and blood of a dead Jew from 2,000 years ago because a priest does some hocus pocus over it in church of a Sunday morning.
b. When I pray for something like “please god help me pass my exam tomorrow,” an invisible being reads my mind and intervenes to alter what would otherwise be the course of history in small ways to meet my request.
c. You can pray to a dead person for something. This dead person will then ask God to fulfill your wish. If this happens twice, this dead person becomes a saint.
"b. When I pray for something like “please god help me pass my exam tomorrow,” an invisible being reads my mind and intervenes to alter what would otherwise be the course of history in small ways to meet my request."
My mother-in-law prays for her roast to come out of the oven cooked correctly............ true story!!!
Such a brillliant post. Dead on.
As freedom is a core principle to global human rights, I've no issue with your right to practice religion. However, in THIS country, there is supposed to be a clear divide between church and state. Charlatans like this dangerously threaten to unify church and state into something faintly resembling Sharia Law.
This is the most frightening aspect for me, personally, and I find without even getting into the logical inadequecies of Broun's argument, he should be denounced simply for breaking that one "founding" covenant so egregiously.
But, most politicians still weave religion into politics in a way that gives Broun the backing to take it one step further. This is why ALL religious rhetoric needs to be permanently removed from politics, period.
520 Million Year Old Bug-Like Creature May Have Had the First Modern Brain
Scientists say that the recently discovered 520 million year old insect brain, the oldest brain ever discovered in an arthropod, is surprisingly complex for its age, and may be the earliest example on record of a modern brain structure.
Read more at http://www.medicaldaily.com/articles/12631/20121010/520-million-year-old-bug-creature-first.htm#J4zhMz6jAJx5KZ0p.99
An thus this proves evolution may be false since some peoples brains (cough ..Paul Broun .. cough) still are very primitive.
Lol. Damn you made me laugh so hard my espresso went the wrong way. But my goodness, I'm awake now.
I like your style, AP.
deities are a human invention to attempt to explain the natural world for which they lack the proper tools.
Nope. I was a god and I met God. So God does indeed exist.
True snow. People have the whole "God created man thing" backwards. Man created gods in their own image. It goes way, way back – long before the bible (Gullible's Travels). And you know what else goes back before the bible? Spam – spam from politicians, lobbyists and charlatans.
You’re wrong Mama Kindless. One day I was flying through space and God sent me back to earth to the exact spot my friends Phil and Leela were looking for me.
Make sure your grandchildren learn Chinese and Hindi!
Exactly, because if Broun and his hillbilly cronies ever truly got their way and turned this country into the Jesus States of America the center of scientific advancement will shift to Asia, and would likely stay there for centuries.
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