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Do you believe in a red state Jesus or a blue state Jesus?
November 2nd, 2012
01:57 PM ET

Do you believe in a red state Jesus or a blue state Jesus?

By John Blake, CNN

(CNN) – Here's a presidential election prediction you can bet on.

Right after the winner is announced, somebody somewhere in America will fall on their knees and pray, "Thank you Jesus."
And somebody somewhere else will moan, "Help us Jesus."

But what Jesus will they be praying to: a red state Jesus or a blue state Jesus?

If elections are about choices, so is faith. And in Christianity, liberals and conservatives choose to see Jesus in different ways. Some liberals see Jesus as a champion of the poor who would support raising taxes on the wealthy, while some conservatives think Jesus would be more concerned with opposing abortion and same-sex marriage.

Good luck to anyone who tries reconciling their Jesus with the biblical accounts of his life. Even Jesus' earliest followers clashed over who he was and what he meant.

"Jesus didn't leave clear instructions," says Molly Worthern, a history professor at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill who specializes in religious history.

"He was a man who said many things that were quite cryptic. All Christians tend to pick or chose to emphasize some of his teachings over the other."

Perhaps most Christians follow not one Jesus, but many - including a bit of a red state Jesus and a bit of a blue state Jesus. We consulted several pastors and religion professors to come up with this voter's guide to Jesus. Answer these questions, click "Submit" and see where you fall on the red state-blue state Jesus scale:

Take the quiz here.

 

 

- CNN Writer

Filed under: Christianity • Jesus

soundoff (522 Responses)
  1. DUMP hINDU FABRICATION MITHRA ISM, SAVIOR ISM, CHRISTIANITY, VOTE FOR TRUTH ABSOLUTE GOD

    USE YOUR MIND, NOT YOUR hINDU, BLINDED HEART TO CAST YOUR VOTE.

    hindu's blinded leading hindu, blinded, game of hindu Magi's, criminal tricksters to stay in business of hinduism, denial of truth absolute, let it be hindu's, ignorant preachers, speaking not of truth absolute GOD, nor hindu atheist, ignorant self centered, secular s. rode with a hindu blinded driver, BET ON A WRACK, YOU WILL NEVER LOOSE.

    Expect nothing better but mayhem among humanity by following of hinduism, denial of truth absolute, Allah, and following of hindu pagan Mithra ism, savior ism, neither commanded, nor allowed in Islam as a religion, but Theen Allah, consti tution of truth absolute. Foundation of American consti tution.
    Shiaism
    hindu Mithra ism, savior ism invented little over 100 years after Sydana Mohammad pbh by tribes of Kujar of north Africa and imposition as Fatmid Khalaphit by force by denial of Hidth and Quran, justified by hindu Judaism, pagan secularism to impose hinduism, racism by hindu, fabricated relationship with Family of Syadana Mohammad pbh to justify existence of hindu criminal Kings, a violation of fundamental commandment, human equality under the LA. truth absolute Allah. Cause of conflict among Muslim's and cause of down fall of Muslim's and Islam in Spain.

    Sunisim, invented by Turk's by corruption of Quran and hidth to justify existence of hindu King's as Khalipha, after death of Ruler Mohammad, but later renamed, Mehmmat, wisdom of spirit of truth by siblings from his Armenian wife, follower of hindu pagan Mithra ism, savior ism in 13th century.

    Christianity, invented by hinduism,. corruption of truth absolute by hindu Pharisees, pagan self centered, follower of hindu filthy pig ism by corrupted Torah, known as Greek Torah, translated and commented by Ben Asheer in 250 AD in Yiddish, secularist, self centered language, also known as Old Testament, part of book of Mithra ism labeled as Bible. A way to justify hindu criminal Kings and self proclaimed Prophets, fortune tellers as god's to rule over humanity.

    JUDAISM, Self center ism, pig ism, or Atheism, invented by hindu's pagan's of Egypt by corruption of truth absolute in Torah to Justify hindu pagan Pharaoh's and their hindu pagan Santans, goons as god's to rule over humanity with impunity.

    HAVE hINDUISM, CORRUPTION OF TRUTH ABSOLUTE, RELIGIONS AND LIVE WITH MAYHEM, AS HAS BEEN THE CASE FROM hIND, DARK AGES TILL TODAY. FOLLOW THEEN ALLAH, CONSTI TUTION OF TRUTH ABSOLUTE, ALLAH , GOD AND THE LORD, FOUNDATION OF CONSTI TUTION OF AMERICA TO HAVE PEACE AMONG HUMANITY. To learn more please visit truthisthelimit.com
    word hindu is based on Latin word hindered, negative, Hun, great, Han, to be in greatness, hin, to be negative to both of them, hindu, a noun in negativity, hinduism, way of negativity.
    Visit limitisthetruth.com to learn about hinduism, criminality of hindu's, criminals to impose hinduism, racism on humanity by hinduism, corruption of truth absolute by force.

    November 4, 2012 at 11:47 am |
  2. Mitt Romney

    Red State Jesus sure sounds like a dick.

    My Jesus is Satan's brother from the planet Kolob.

    November 4, 2012 at 7:42 am |
  3. shipwreck73

    Neither, there there is no jebus

    November 4, 2012 at 7:38 am |
  4. GodsPeople

    Christ would condemn all politicians for their evil, treachery, deceit, and corruption, much like He did the moneylenders by telling them that they are of their father, the devil. There could be no blue Jesus or red Jesus. There is only one Christ, the Son of the living God, and Savior of all mankind.

    November 4, 2012 at 3:54 am |
    • Mark Cherian

      Absolutely correct comment.

      November 4, 2012 at 9:25 am |
    • JerryNJ

      So, he would be frying the folks in the red states just as much as the folks in the blue, is that what you're saying?

      Sounds like any other evil alien invader to me.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
    • itsallaloadofbollocks

      All mankind or just the ones who join the club?

      November 5, 2012 at 5:34 pm |
    • Bob

      It's not God's fault that people who know better run as fast as they can into Hell. He doesn't do it to them, they do it to themselves and try to scapegoat others even though God and half the world are trying to help them avoid Hell. When the coffee cup is marked "hot coffee" and you read that and then pour it on your crotch, you can't sue for your injuries.

      November 5, 2012 at 5:55 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Sure it's "god's fault," Bob. God could get rid of hell, but he doesn't. If you have the power to eliminate a place of eternal torture and don't, then you're a sadist azzhole.

      November 5, 2012 at 6:01 pm |
    • Bob

      He gives us free will and knowledge, we choose what we want, and some people want to go to Hell. I don't know why, but they do.

      November 5, 2012 at 6:13 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      I see zero evidence of that, Bob, but by your own admission, your god could eliminate hell as an option and doesn't. That makes him a sadistic azzhole.

      November 5, 2012 at 6:21 pm |
    • Bob

      Hell is just the horrific eternal absense of God as chosen by the person who wants that. By definition, you're already there. THe prblem for you is that it gets worse and is eternal after you have your fun here. God doesn't wish that on anyone. He'd much rather you weren't such a dick to and about Him and wanted to be with Him. BUt of course, you are going to blame God for not giving you freedom, then you are going to blame him for giving you the free will to choose for or against him. You are just playing games and trying to confuse peiople into choosing the same death you chose for yourself.

      November 5, 2012 at 9:35 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Bob, you obviously wish that were true. I'm sure you'd love to think that those whom you believe are "immoral" and "wicked" are going to spend an eternity in the lake of fire.

      I can visualize you drooling and rubbing your hands together in anticipation.

      November 5, 2012 at 9:41 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Bob, why haven't you produced those "studies" you said proved your claims?

      November 5, 2012 at 9:42 pm |
  5. apostate

    Vishnu fuchsia state.

    November 4, 2012 at 1:25 am |
  6. CSX

    I am not allowed to call you a fool. But there is ONE Jesus regardless of who we think he is. He is the lamb and judge. A blue state cannot know him for they are openly wicked and kill millions of babies and promote Sodomites. Not God's plan and even nature itself knows the difference. But the red states are in sin too who call his name. Unless the believers turn from their wicked ways, we will suffer more Lewinkis and debts.

    November 3, 2012 at 11:18 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Knock it off with the idiotic "killing babies" crap. Nobody is "killing babies." R v W was decided decades ago; it's not going anywhere no matter who wins the election.

      Your hysteria and hyperbole are laughable.

      November 3, 2012 at 11:23 pm |
    • Sven

      These guys are the best recruiters we atheists could ever hope for.

      Keep it up, CSX!

      November 4, 2012 at 2:45 am |
    • Mark Cherian

      Excellent comment. All have to stand before Christ on judgment day. So readers please change when you are still alive.

      November 4, 2012 at 9:29 am |
    • JerryNJ

      Mark Cherian
      What if we see the kind of "Change" you people are talking about as being more evil than not believing in Christ? You are asking us to submit to an alien tyrant, after all. How could any freedom-loving American ever want to bow down to a king?

      November 4, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
  7. niknak

    Man, someone should jack that red/blue jeebus photo as it would make a dope acid blot!

    November 3, 2012 at 9:15 pm |
    • God's Oldest Dreamer

      Heard ya the 1st round,,, :-)

      November 3, 2012 at 10:59 pm |
  8. niknak

    That photo of the red/blue jeebus would make a dope acid blot!

    November 3, 2012 at 9:13 pm |
  9. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    November 3, 2012 at 9:00 pm |
    • hal 9001

      I'm sorry, "Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things", but your assertions regarding atheism and prayer are unfounded. Using my Idiomatic Expression Equivalency module, the expression that best matches the degree to which your assertions may represent truths is: "TOTAL FAIL".

      I see that you repeat these unfounded statements with high frequency. Perhaps the following book can help you:

      I'm Told I Have Dementia: What You Can Do... Who You Can Turn to...
      by the Alzheimer's Disease Society

      November 3, 2012 at 10:59 pm |
  10. Hugh Mann

    Bob Dylan said it all in his song "God on Our Side"

    November 3, 2012 at 8:57 pm |
    • Ting

      John Lennon said it all in his song "Imagine"

      November 4, 2012 at 12:15 am |
    • Bob

      Yeah, let's take philosophical advice from someone who cheated on his wife and abandoned her and his own firsborn son. WHat an enlightened guy Lennon was.

      November 5, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
    • itsallaloadofbollocks

      His morals have nothing to do with you or his views on your imaginary friend handbook

      November 5, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
    • Bob

      If you lived your life like Lennon did, you'd want to imagine there's no God as well. It's nice to imagine until reality comes calling.

      November 5, 2012 at 5:31 pm |
    • itsallaloadofbollocks

      Above us only sky. That is the reality Bob. Unless you've found actual proof of a god.

      November 5, 2012 at 5:56 pm |
    • truth be told

      In these last days God has revealed Himself to us in the person of His Son Jesus Christ.

      November 5, 2012 at 6:07 pm |
    • Bob

      While it's true that God doesn't dance like a trained circues dog for people who hate him or anyone else, but there is plenty of proof of His existence. Fatima and demonic posession are 2 easy ones that come to mind. Both corroborated by credentialled secular scientists and effectively refuted by nobody..

      November 5, 2012 at 6:17 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Nonsense. Visions don't prove the existence of anything.

      November 5, 2012 at 6:18 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Bob

      Cite those studies then Bob. Give the information instead of stating that it was confirmed by secular scientists.

      November 5, 2012 at 6:19 pm |
    • Bob

      Check New Oxford Review Vol. LXXV, Number 2, "Among the Many Counterfeits, A Case of Demonic Possession" by Dr Richard E Gallagher.

      November 5, 2012 at 9:49 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Ahhahhhhhaaa! You are a hoot, Bob.

      November 5, 2012 at 9:55 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Bob

      I said studies Bob, not an article by some guy making assertions.

      November 5, 2012 at 9:59 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Bob doesn't know what studies are.

      November 5, 2012 at 10:00 pm |
    • Bob

      I understand you don't want to believe the guy who has Yale, Princeton, and Columbia university affiliations and credentials, but he also has secular corroboration. Other skeptics have given up their position because of this man, because they are reasonable people.

      November 5, 2012 at 10:02 pm |
    • Bob

      And when did I use the term "studies", and why are you hanging on that word instead of refuting this guy's case or credentials?

      November 5, 2012 at 10:12 pm |
    • Bob

      And as for Fatima, 3 peasant children visited by an apparition of Mary knew EXACTLY the date, time, and location that a visual phenomenon would take place and it happened as they described and was photographed and witnessed by thousands of people. We can't even predict the weather accurately nowadays. How exactly do you suppose such an elaborate hoax was pulled off, and why is there nobody on the internet disputing the facts of the case?

      November 5, 2012 at 10:17 pm |
    • Real Deal

      Bob,

      Re: Fatima

      There are Fatima debunking articles all over the place. You will not find them on your Christian sites. Here are just a few at the beginning of a simple Google search:
      –http://www.miraclesceptic.com/solarmiracle.html
      –http://www.physicsforums.com/archive/index.php/t-149860.html
      –http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message730900/pg1

      November 5, 2012 at 10:25 pm |
    • Bob

      I think you people have seen too many televangelists and don't realize what real religious scholars and learned people are bringing to the table in terms of real knowledge and experience. THese people dwarf your little circle jerk of "the land of the flying spaghetti monster" . The pastor of my church has a phd in biochemistry from UGA. Science and religion are not at odds with each other. God owns them both. I gave you facts, take therm or don't, but now at least you know the truth and what you are hiding from or fighting against.

      November 5, 2012 at 10:27 pm |
    • Bob

      I think you people have seen too many televangelists and don't realize what real religious scholars and learned people are bringing to the table in terms of real knowledge and experience. THese people dwarf your little knitting party where you sit around thinking you are smart for talking about "the flying spaghetti monster" . The pastor of my church has a phd in biochemistry from UGA. Science and religion are not at odds with each other. God owns them both. I gave you facts, take therm or don't, but now at least you know the truth and what you are hiding from or fighting against.

      November 5, 2012 at 10:29 pm |
    • Bob

      Have you actually READ any of the attempts to debunk Fatima? THey are trying to come up with alternate theories for the source of the visual phenomenon. Thousands of people saw something very different than normal, photos were taken, articles written. You think none of them ever looked up at the sun and squinted before? Why did it happen at the exact time and place predicted by 3 peasant children? Why did those children stick to their story under threat of persdecution? Why did they join the clergy afterward?

      It just goes to show, you can literally show someone God, and if they have the devil in them, they will deny Him. It happens all the time. And then the skeptics pretend that the real problem is that God doesn't show Himself to people readily enough or they woudl all have to believe. THis is obviously not the case.

      November 5, 2012 at 10:41 pm |
    • Romnesia

      Jesus on my toast. Now I believe.

      November 5, 2012 at 10:46 pm |
  11. Bootyfunk

    i'll pick choice 3 - i don't believe in jesus. there's no good evidence jesus existed. much like hercules (another demi-god of a lightning shooting sky god). most likely, jesus is just myth, like king arthur, etc. if jesus did exist, he was just a man. and that means he was just a cult leader. jesus said some great things about love and railed the rich - which makes him sound like a commie hippie. but he also said some dreadful things. jesus supported slavery. jesus told everyone to worship him - and if he's just a man, that makes him a con-artist.

    i look forward to a day when christian religion is viewed the same way greek, norse and egyptian mythologies. christians are only 1 god away from being atheists...

    November 3, 2012 at 6:54 pm |
    • HarryJames

      Since it's all most likely in people's minds anyway, with people believing the version that happens to match their presuppositions, if a Jesus did exist, which would you prefer?

      Or, if we were talking about vampires, would you prefer the Twilight, sparkly kind, or the traditional bloodsucker?

      November 3, 2012 at 7:54 pm |
    • and as always

      once again footybunk is wrong

      November 4, 2012 at 6:46 am |
  12. Dihydrogen Dioxide

    The problem is that red states didn’t listen to their Jesus at all. Remember that Jesus told not one, not two, but tree of the pre-candidates to run but neither one of them got the nomination. Who got nominated instead? A Mormon! Do you think that will make the red Jesus happy? I don’t think so.

    November 3, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
    • Lois

      Theodore Roosevelt was a Jew. Does that mean Christians couldn't vote for him? We have had Catholics,

      November 3, 2012 at 6:22 pm |
    • Hugh Mann

      Once, Lois and they tried to say that he would serve the Pope instead of the Nation....

      November 3, 2012 at 8:59 pm |
  13. Sam Yaza

    yo king of Rebels here,.. so i decided to finally sit down and talk with Jesus, so i gathered up my best necromancers and rose his lifeless corpse from the dead

    needles to say their we allot a disagreements we had; but I'm not going to go in to that

    in stead i will talk on what we agreed on in to days world isues.

    so is Jesus Pro-life or Pro-choice,

    pro life and pro choice

    he said "it is up to the individual to chose life or death; if you want to kill our Kidd before he lives go for it you will suffer the punishment your self." that being said he did say "life began at first breath Adam was not alive until the breath of god came into him."

    What does he think of Gay marriage
    once again he said it is "your choice" to make, but unlike me he thought there was something wrong with it.

    What to do with Billy Graham
    ...."that's a hard one he said they guy is obviously not mine, but i would not wish him on any one,.. perhaps obliteration is in order."

    redistribution of wealth

    "It needs to be done, i called for in 2000 years ago and i call for it do day." In fact he said he would go so fare as to have no wealth at all, saying "I'm a communist at heart" i slightly disagreed i do thin only those of great virtues can handle power; those who come short should be judge on their actions. i was surprised to see he was vary radical on this one. then again he was also radical on the destruction of the earth.

    well JC will be at my house for another 3 days until the spell wheres off so if any one wants to ask him something now is the time

    November 3, 2012 at 4:20 pm |
    • Sam Yaza

      oh and answering this Jesus can not stand the republicans and capitalist

      he is a quote unquote

      "A socialist liberal" the republican party reminded him of the Pharisees "time will tell that what they are doing is a lie and not of my body"

      November 3, 2012 at 4:23 pm |
  14. Cathy

    Christians believe in God given rights not Gov't given!
    The video referenced in the Libya situation was done by a Koptic Christian who was tired of his people being crucified literally.. Not One liberal media outlet mentions the war that the Christians and the Jews are facing because of their beliefs. This is why the Christian organizations are now Sueing the Obama administration.

    November 3, 2012 at 3:56 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Too bad for you that this isn't a God-ruled nation but one in which the government is based on secular law. Get over it.

      November 3, 2012 at 3:59 pm |
    • JerryNJ

      Cathy
      We live in a Republic, not a theocracy. If you don't like how we get our laws then why not leave? If you don't like being free of kings, and can't wait for your Savior to rule over you, then why not leave? You are clearly not happy in America, the Land of the Free!

      November 4, 2012 at 1:28 pm |
    • Bob

      Christians were here first, we even put God's namer on your money. Sorry, but this is a Christian country. Both presidential candidates claim to be Christian, Maybe you should move to Canada where the passionless like to congratulate themeselves for their capacity for logic.

      November 5, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Bob, the framers of the const i tution and the founders of the country went to extreme lengths to claim and print and publish otherwise. Your argument loses all day long every day, but you'd have to read and understand the history of this country to realize that. You obviously haven't.

      November 5, 2012 at 5:34 pm |
    • Bob

      Our nation's currency clearly states, "In God We Trust". What part of that don't you understand?

      November 5, 2012 at 5:41 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Yes, and it's not a specific god being referenced, and the founders of the country went far, far, far out of their way to ensure that this nation was NOT set up as a christian one. What part of that don't you understand? Are you stupid or just pretending?

      November 5, 2012 at 5:44 pm |
    • Bob

      So, the best way to ensure that government and religion don't mix is by putting God's name on your currency? Almost everyone involved in settling this country was Christian, just like the people who contributed most to the world in every way have been theists. Back then, they didn't even imagine people being stupid and egomaniacal enough to be atheists.

      November 5, 2012 at 5:51 pm |
    • itsallaloadofbollocks

      Bob. The founding fathers did not add those words to the currency. They were added in the 50's during the paranoia about communism.

      November 5, 2012 at 5:54 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Bob, your stance was that this was/is a christian nation, and now you've backpedaled to something having to do with the founders wanting? god and religion "to mix?" because of a generic term (god) printed on our money? How silly of you. You may as well argue that the government wants us to build pyramids with one eye in the center of them.

      Again, read your history, moron. The founders were mostly deists and went to great, great lengths to ENSURE that nobody, no where, no time EVER thought that this country was a "christian nation."

      And yes, "back then" there were plenty of atheists and some Americans thought Tom Jefferson was one, or following to closely the tenants of an atheist philosopher. You see, I know my history, and you clearly don't know jack sh!t and you don't know when to keep your mouth shut about your ignorance. Do the research and then come back an apologize, liar.

      November 5, 2012 at 5:58 pm |
    • Bob

      I guess we became a Christian nation in the 50's then. Realistically, our origins were much more about greed than freedom anyway, and we're seeing the fruit of that seed now.

      November 5, 2012 at 6:03 pm |
    • For Bob - love, mama k

      DID YOU KNOW?

      During his presidency, James Madison vetoed two bills that he believed would violate the separation of church and state. He also came to oppose the long-established practice of employing chaplains at public expense in the House of Representatives and Senate on the grounds that it violated the separation of church and state and the principles of religious freedom**. Starting from their anger over feuding Christian sects in their home state, until the end of their lives, James Madison and Thomas Jefferson were fierce promoters of the separation of church and state.

      Who was James Madison? He was the 4th President of the United States and the chief architect of the U.S. Constitution.

      ** Library of Congress – James Madison Papers – Detached memorandum, ca. 1823.

      ===========================

      During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution.

      (James Madison – A Memorial and Remonstrance, addressed to the Virginia General Assembly, 1785)

      November 5, 2012 at 6:03 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Bob, you're beyond ridiculous. We have a secular form of government with separation of church and state. Our laws are not based on the Bible or Christianity. We don't have a "state religion." While the majority of the founders believed, or said they believed, in a god, many weren't Christians at all; they were Deists.

      You've been told this time and time again. Do you have a learning disability?

      November 5, 2012 at 6:07 pm |
    • mama k

      bob: "Realistically, our origins were much more about greed than freedom anyway"

      Wow – you are dumber than I thought. Have someone explain to you what I wrote above.

      November 5, 2012 at 6:07 pm |
    • truth be told

      America, founded by Christians for Christians.

      November 5, 2012 at 6:09 pm |
    • mama k

      That's right, Tom.

      The reason they had the good insight to go beyond their own religious leanings was because different Christian sects were killing each other. If we didn't get a secular Constitution then, we might have been weakened by so much of that unnecessary conflict that the Brits might have been able to take control again. Then there never would have been Mormons in America, nor Billy Grahams, nor the spread of Catholicism – and you and I probably wouldn't be here either.

      November 5, 2012 at 6:13 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Turdy, do you have "gall" or "Gaul?"

      Anybody as stupid as you are wouldn't have a clue about the facts of American history.

      November 5, 2012 at 6:15 pm |
    • mama k

      I see idiot "truth be told" can't read today. Read what I wrote above, if you have the mental capacity, truth – we are not and have never been exclusively a Christian nation, and we have never been founded on Christianity.

      November 5, 2012 at 6:16 pm |
    • mama k

      To a certain degree, our Constitution also guarantees freedom from religion, with respect to religious over-reach in government. This is by way of the Establishment Clause which was applied in the Supreme Court ruling of 1963 that deemed the mandated Bible readings in public schools unconstitutional. That's a good thing, since we now have about 21% non-Christians on average in a classroom.

      November 5, 2012 at 6:22 pm |
  15. God's Oldest Dreamer

    "Life" seems to be a convoluted trajectory declaring (in either one's cases) random essentialisms upon becoming the other's differing relativism. The swinging of the pit's pendulum needs only a leveraging undulation to be a mimicry.

    I believe in the infinitesimally finite values and accords while others believe in the grandest of hugeness being the better of the two. We, as it now is, are caught between such an envisioning resoluteness of relational differences. I live for the smallest while others live for the huge. Inner-Space or Outer-Space can only maintain divisional accords thru gravimetric variations of quantum physicalities.

    It is best for mankind to simmer in their juvenile pottages never rationalizingly 'a.s.saying' one's diffuse detriments the grains. As smitten breeds, our splendors reveal one's characters to be traitorous to one's analogous fold. Where then does Life end and living begin?

    November 3, 2012 at 3:42 pm |
    • redblue23

      Let me guess. You thought the colors were part of your acid trip and you had to join in?

      November 3, 2012 at 9:54 pm |
    • God's Oldest Dreamer

      redblue23,,,

      My "moronovision" has been stuck as of late. Care to tune me in? :-)

      November 3, 2012 at 10:45 pm |
  16. ivan bial

    Facts are tough for the Romney followers to accept;

    Try theses on:

    People who know Romney best don't want him;

    Israel's most influential daily newspaper, Haaretz, endorsed President Obama.

    In Massachusetts Romney is trailing by over 30 points.

    Utah's "Salt Lake Tribune" endorses President Obama

    November 3, 2012 at 3:41 pm |
    • JerryNJ

      You forgot, Gov. Christie now adores Obama.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:33 pm |
  17. Lorraine

    Red State God Hands Down! The Christ of the Bible would not condone abortion, or gay marriage. He also would favor a strong relationship with Israel.

    I am amazed at the hatred and vitriol in the comments I have read. Why on earth are any of you reading a faith blog?

    I am constantly amazed at how much time atheists spend fighting and damning someone that they don't believe exists. Do you spend an equal amount of time chasing unicorns and garden gnomes off your front lawn? I don't believe in fairies therefore I don't spend a whole lot of time ranting about them on the internet. Sad and angry bunch.

    Y'all might need more bran in your diet. Just sayin.....

    November 3, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Stupid git. It's not the existence of a god atheists and agnostics are angry about. It's the fact that fundies like you try to use your religious beliefs to remover or deny rights to others because you object to a behavior.

      Loopy, grow a brain and figure it out.

      November 3, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
    • Andy

      Your hatred is showing, Lorraine

      November 3, 2012 at 3:37 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Loopy's elevator doesn't go all the way to the top floor.

      November 3, 2012 at 3:40 pm |
    • redblue23

      Lorraine eats lots of bran herself because her customers need her to keep her back canal clear of obstacles.

      November 3, 2012 at 9:56 pm |
    • JerryNJ

      Lorraine
      "Red State God" would BE in Israel, and would regard the whole USA as just another foreign nation that should bow down to them. We'd be lumped together with Russia, China, the UK and the rest of Europe.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:36 pm |
    • Bob

      To God, atheists are "The Loyal Opposition". Just like the devil himself, nobody believes in or fears God more than the atheists.

      November 5, 2012 at 5:35 pm |
    • itsallaloadofbollocks

      Bob. How can I fear something that only exists in your imagination. You are deluded.

      November 5, 2012 at 5:39 pm |
    • itsallaloadofbollocks

      Last I heard the unicorn lobby wasn't trying to permeate the fabric of society: having its rules posted at public buildings, having its fairy tales taught as science, etc. It's not bran you need Lorraine – add an "i"

      November 5, 2012 at 5:45 pm |
  18. Jesus

    I wish I really was this magic invisible superhero who gets to torture billions for the rest of eternity, but as it turns out I'm just another dead human.

    November 3, 2012 at 1:52 pm |
    • Mohammed

      Me too

      November 3, 2012 at 1:53 pm |
    • Joseph Smith

      Same here.

      November 3, 2012 at 1:53 pm |
    • David Koresh

      Guess what? I really am God!

      BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

      November 3, 2012 at 1:54 pm |
    • Warren Jeffs

      Waaaaa! I am being persecuted for my beliefs, everyone!

      Free Me.

      My kingdom awaits me.

      November 3, 2012 at 2:01 pm |
    • GOD

      Ditto

      November 3, 2012 at 6:24 pm |
    • CSX

      Simpy the ones in hell rejected him. He loved all so much he died for them. Yet, the Saviour becomes the bad guy? A God dies to free his creations and it is his fault? No, we sinned and failed him. Free your self from reprobation.

      November 3, 2012 at 11:21 pm |
    • Mitt Romney

      I will be a god of my own planet when I die.

      November 4, 2012 at 8:04 am |
  19. Rummy Pirate Times-Dispatch

    "In Greed We Trust"

    In 1994, Bain invested $27 million as part of a deal with other firms to acquire Dade International, a medical-diagnostics-equipment firm, from its parent company, Baxter International. Bain ultimately made nearly 10 times its money, getting back $230 million. But Dade wound up laying off more than 1,600 people and filed for bankruptcy protection in 2002, amid crushing debt and rising interest rates. The company, with Bain in charge, had borrowed heavily to do acquisitions, accumulating $1.6 billion in debt by 2000. The company cut benefits for some workers at the acquired firms and laid off others. When it merged with Behring Diagnostics, a German company, Dade shut down three U.S. plants. At the same time, Dade paid out $421 million to Bain Capital’s investors and investing partners.

    For 15 years, Romney had been in the business of creative destruction and wealth creation. But what about his claims of job creation? Though Bain Capital surely helped expand some companies that had created jobs, the layoffs and closures at other firms would lead Romney’s political opponents to say that he had amassed a fortune in part by putting people out of work. The lucrative deals that made Romney wealthy could exact a cost. Maximizing financial return to investors could mean slashing jobs, closing plants, and moving production overseas. It could also mean clashing with union workers, serving on the board of a company that ran afoul of federal laws, and loading up already struggling companies with debt.

    Marc Wolpow, a former Bain partner who worked with Romney on many deals, said the discussion at buyout companies typically does not focus on whether jobs will be created. “It’s the opposite—what jobs we can cut,” Wolpow said. “Because you had to document how you were going to create value. Eliminating redundancy, or the elimination of people, is a very valid way."

    A couple of examples (it's pretty easy to find more):

    Bain closed GST Steel plant in 2001 laying off 750 workers.

    Controlling share owner Bain Capital closes BRP plant (Southern Illinois) so the 340 jobs there could be outsourced to Mexico.

    Also, this is disconcerting:

    http://www.examiner.com/article/mitt-romney-implicated-perjury-and-stock-fraud-made-millions-process
    http://globalgrind.com/news/mitt-romney-lied-perjury-under-oath-divorce-court-case-tom-stemberg-details

    November 3, 2012 at 1:46 pm |
    • Lorraine

      Do you know anything about venture capital at all or does all of your information come from Chris Matthews?

      The purpose of venture capital is to invest in companies that are struggling. The desired outcome is success and growth for the company – meaning more jobs. Sometimes companies are bloated and when the venture capital firm comes along, the have to let some of the work force go in order for the company to succeed. But most times, the failing companies are saved and employ more people.

      Venture capital is associated with job creation (accounting for 2% of US GDP),[2] the knowledge economy, and used as a proxy measure of innovation within an economic sector or geography. Every year, there are nearly 2 million businesses created in the USA, and 600–800 get venture capital funding.

      Do you have any idea how many people lost their job when GM restructured under Obama? Twelve thousand people in Jaynesville, Ohio alone. And then there were hundreds of dealerships across the nation. Was Obama evil?

      How many people have lost their jobs in the coal industry because of Obama? How many people have lost their job in the fracking or oil drilling sector?

      You might want to turn off MSNBC and get a hobby.

      November 3, 2012 at 3:37 pm |
    • redblue23

      "The purpose of venture capital is to invest in companies that are struggling."
      Uh, no Lorraine, generally not, except for a few bottom feeders like Bain when Romney was there. Most are just looking for promising returns. The risks might be high but the struggles can be no different than most other companies. Check out the investors in Facebook, Google, and others. The only struggles they had when the VC's wanted in was which one to pick and how to bar the door to keep the rest out.

      As for your god delusion, can't help you there. You are just stupid.

      November 3, 2012 at 9:59 pm |
  20. Badda Bing

    I believe in Zombie Clown Dentist Red State Jesus!

    November 3, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
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