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November 3rd, 2012
09:00 PM ET

My Take: On Election Day, proclaiming my loyalty to Jesus

Editor's Note: Mark Schloneger is pastor of North Goshen Mennonite Church in Goshen, Indiana.

By Mark Schloneger, Special to CNN

It seems frivolous, even foolish.

On Tuesday, as the world turns its attention to who will occupy the most powerful office of the world’s most powerful nation, hundreds of churches will gather across the United States to worship a servant.

As votes are counted to elect a president, thousands of Christians will take the bread and the cup to remember their crucified Lord.

As winners are projected and the electoral map is updated, Christians of many denominations will sing their praises and proclaim their loyalty to Jesus.

It seems ridiculous, even silly.

After all, America is at a crossroads, and we are in the midst of one of the most critical presidential elections of our lifetimes. We know this because people have recited this same tired mantra before every presidential election.

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Our fears, our hopes, our worries and our struggles are the currency that buys our votes. And how do politicians and their supporters acquire this precious currency? They invest billions of dollars to foment fear, inspire hope, create worry and exploit our struggles.

It’s a power play. Some of us are pawns, and some of us are participants. But some of us are choosing a different part.

I initiated the Election Day Communion Campaign out of a concern that Christians in the United States are being shaped more by the tactics and ideologies of political parties than by our identity and unity in Christ. Out of this concern, a simple vision sparked the imaginations of congregations nationwide: the church being the church on Election Day, gathering at the Lord’s Table to remember, to give thanks for, and to proclaim its loyalty to Jesus.

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Gathering for Communion on Election Day seems fitting, for the practice of Communion is an inherently political act. It is both a pledge of allegiance to Jesus and a declaration of independence from all other powers making claims on our bodies, minds and souls.

Far too often, the church has abandoned its first love for the siren song of political parties promising protection, prosperity and peace. Far too many times, the church has ceded the practice of its faith to the spiritual and the private while leaving others to address matters of justice. And far too frequently, the church has attempted to speak truth to power while seeking and relying on that same power for protection.

The bread and the cup are God’s antidotes to our fickle memories. As we eat and drink together, we remember that all things fall under the lordship of Christ. We remember our sin and need to repent.

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We remember that God has lifted up the humble, filled the hungry with good things, and chosen to reveal God’s strength through our weakness.

We remember that the only Christian nation in this world is the church, the holy nation that transcends all human-made walls, boundaries and borders.

As we gather at the table, we remember that the power to redeem, to save, and to transform comes not from atop the seat of power but from within the life, death and resurrection of Jesus.

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We will gather for Election Day Communion not because we think that the issues at stake in this election are unimportant or that our votes don’t really matter. No, we will gather for Communion because we think that the issues at stake in all elections are far too important to be relegated to our votes alone.

The Lord’s Supper reminds followers of Jesus to practice the politics of Jesus. To me, practicing the politics of Jesus means working to protect the sanctity of all human life, whether it is found in the womb, in prison, or in countries at war against us.

It means choosing the way of forgiveness and reconciliation rather than vengeance and violence. It means practicing an economy based on generosity and mutual aid.

It means offering care and compassion to suffering people regardless of their immigration status, economic class or religious practice.

It means being good stewards of God’s good creation. And, most of all, it means allowing God’s kingdom to break into the entirety of our lives, from the privacy of our homes to the politics we practice in public.

The bread and the cup keep calling me back to the table inscribed with memory. There, I remember God’s choice for the transfer of power. There, I remember where to go with my fears, my hopes, my worries and my struggles. At the table, with my sisters and brothers, I am in the presence of the Holy.

Though I’m interested in the outcome of the presidential election, I won’t be watching the projected results as they are announced. I’ve made a prior commitment. I intend to honor it.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Mark Schloneger.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: 2012 Election • Belief • Christianity • Politics

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  1. Decisions Decisions

    The Bible says that man was fearfully and wonderfully made. The fearfully used hears means "in awe". That man has a purpose and a calling.

    Atheists say that you are an animal, the result of freak genetic mutation over billions of years. Wow, no wonder suicides in schools are skyrocketing...

    November 4, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
    • Sure

      I know, no wonder why gay teenagers kill themselves. Ignorant intolerant Christians screaming obscenities and condemning them all to their de vil

      November 4, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • Sifleut

      What an F'in moron!

      November 4, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • Free thinker

      In one version of events you are free to figure out your purpose and meaning, in the other, thats all been decided for you . . . 2000 years ago!

      November 4, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Can you cite a single case in which a suicide by a student was caused by the teaching of evolution, Regonzoid? Go right ahead. Oh, never mind, you coward. You'll just continue posting drivel because you're not really interested in god, jesus, religion, or anything else. You're just a little dingleberry.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:27 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Evolution is founded upon the principle of self-preservation. To blame suicide on knowledge of evolution is amazingly stupid.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:31 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      What did you expect from Delusions, Delusions?

      November 4, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
  2. OpposingView

    You know, unbelievers love to talk about how must Christians "hate", and how we are evil people simply because we hate. Yet, as soon as some news article comes out in our favor, and as soon as some person stands up for God, suddenly all the hater unbelievers will come out of the woodwork. Notice all the hateful posts made by unbelievers in relation to this article. The unbelievers "hate" anyone who stands up for or believes in God. They "hate" anyone who's not like them. Therefore, if we're guilty of hate, then rest assured, the unbelievers are too..

    But the thing most unbelievers don't realize is that not all hate is bad. For example, Jesus said, "Love not the world". Thus, it is okay to hate the world, and to hate the things of the world and what world stands for. It is okay to hate the opinions of the worldly scientists who say the universe was formed by a Big Bang, whereas God said he created it. To hate those those things of the world is "godly" and is a good thing, and is not a bad thing. In contrast, to be a "hater of God" and to be a "despiser of those who are good" is evil. And the eternal God has stated that all such people shall be cast into the lake…

    Therefore, while it might be true that we both are haters of something, the difference is, our reward for our hate will be – eternal life in heaven with Jesus. Whereas, the unbeliever's reward for their hate will be – eternal death in the lake of fire with Lucifer. So choose ye this day which side you're going to stand on…

    November 4, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
    • 24HCC

      LOL ;)

      November 4, 2012 at 1:12 pm |
    • Justyn Kase

      In fact the ones with the most hate are the unbelievers and the gays towards Christians. The gays are constantly bashing Christians and the Bible but yet they say we have the hate. Only God's love can set a sinner free.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
    • I wonder

      OpposingView,
      " our reward for our hate will be – eternal life in heaven with Jesus. Whereas, the unbeliever's reward for their hate will be – eternal death in the lake of fire with Lucifer."

      What is your verified evidence that something like this actually occurs?

      November 4, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You can keep on repeating your silly mantra, Opp, but it won't make anyone believe as you do. Such threats never work. I will vote for the man whose political views are closest to my own, and who believes in equal rights under the law. Too bad my vote will cancel out yours.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
    • LinCA

      @OpposingView

      You said, "You know, unbelievers love to talk about how must Christians "hate", and how we are evil people simply because we hate."
      Hate is evil. Justifying it with some bullshit myth even more so.

      You said, "Yet, as soon as some news article comes out in our favor, and as soon as some person stands up for God, suddenly all the hater unbelievers will come out of the woodwork. Notice all the hateful posts made by unbelievers in relation to this article."
      Pointing out how ridiculous it is for an adult to still believe in fairy tales isn't hate.

      You said, "The unbelievers "hate" anyone who stands up for or believes in God."
      You are free to believe whatever nonsense you want. I don't hate you for being irrational. What I dislike is forcing that obvious delusion on the sane part of society.

      You said, "They "hate" anyone who's not like them. Therefore, if we're guilty of hate, then rest assured, the unbelievers are too.."
      I don't hate you for being a moron.

      You said, "But the thing most unbelievers don't realize is that not all hate is bad. For example, Jesus said, "Love not the world". Thus, it is okay to hate the world, and to hate the things of the world and what world stands for. It is okay to hate the opinions of the worldly scientists who say the universe was formed by a Big Bang, whereas God said he created it. To hate those those things of the world is "godly" and is a good thing, and is not a bad thing."
      There you go again, justifying your evil ways with your evil myth. Using the writings of primitive desert dwellers to justify your hate for anyone who questions your silly, infantile beliefs.

      You said, "In contrast, to be a "hater of God" and to be a "despiser of those who are good" is evil. And the eternal God has stated that all such people shall be cast into the lake…"
      Yes, and naughty children will find nothing but coal in their stockings.

      You said, "Therefore, while it might be true that we both are haters of something, the difference is, our reward for our hate will be – eternal life in heaven with Jesus. Whereas, the unbeliever's reward for their hate will be – eternal death in the lake of fire with Lucifer. So choose ye this day which side you're going to stand on…"
      If you have the ability to read for comprehension, you may want to look up Pascal's wager.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
    • OpposingView

      To "I wonder"… Answer: Jesus Christ. He is all the verified evidence you need…

      November 4, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Where did Jesus advocate hatred of others, Opp?

      November 4, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
    • OpposingView

      LinCA… You stated… "Hate is evil. Justifying it with some bull*** myth even more so"…

      "Hate is evil based on who's opinion? Yours?… Your opinion means nothing. But assuming what you say is true, then you are evil for hating what I said. In fact, your whole post is hateful. You're just another hater unbeliever who has come out of the woodwork. You've only confirmed what I said. Case closed…

      November 4, 2012 at 1:26 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Ahhahhha! LinCa nails it and it gripes Opp's ugly azz something fierce.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:28 pm |
    • OpposingView

      Tom Tom...

      Luke 14:26 – If any man come to me, and HATE not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

      Luke 16:13 – No servant can serve two masters: for either he will HATE the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

      John 12:25 – He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that HATETH his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.

      2 John 2:15 – Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:32 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Not a single one of those words you just posted were said by Jesus. They were written by others and you have no proof whatsoever that your Jesus said any of them at all.

      Please, Opp. You're embarrassing yourself.

      @ LInCA: Kudos on letting this turd have it right between the nuts.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Oppy, dear, you might want to go back to school to review the rules concerning possessives and contractions. You seem to have missed out on that lesson while you were 'reading the bible.' "Who's" = "Who is" you stupid azz.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:36 pm |
    • OpposingView

      You are a liar, Tom Tom. And you have no clue what you are talking about. Try growing up...

      November 4, 2012 at 1:39 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Here, honey, let me use the two words you're confusing in sentences. Maybe you can learn something:

      Who's an idiot? Opposing View is an idiot.

      Whose trolling is an example of the wing-nut viewpoint? Opposing View's trolling is an example of the wing-nut viewpoint.

      Whose ass just received a beating? Opposing View's ass just received a beating.

      Who's the bonehead with the ugly ass that just got beaten? Opposing View is the bonehead in question.

      There. Thus endeth the lesson.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:39 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      No, honey, I haven't lied about a single thing. Those really ARE the rules for possessives and contractions. You can look them up.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:41 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Oh, did you mean the crap you posted that you claimed were the words of Jesus? Can you provide evidence that he ever said any such thing? Oh, and don't bother using the Bible as your "proof." It's not evidence of anything at all. Won't stand up in court as proof.

      Troll harder, dear.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
    • OpposingView

      Tom Tom… I initially gave you the benefit of a doubt by responding to you. I see now that was a mistake. I will not waste my time further with an adolescent like you. Get back to me when you grow up…

      November 4, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Run away, Opp the Dope. It's your only option, since you can't back up your claims with facts. I know you'll show up in about 15 minutes under another sock puppet and do the same chicken-dance again.

      You're a fraud.

      November 4, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
  3. sue

    You are right. God is our savior. No man or politician with a promise to balance the budget will ever take his place.

    November 4, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
    • DUMP hINDU FABRICATION MITHRA ISM, SAVIOR ISM, CHRISTIANITY, VOTE FOR TRUTH ABSOLUTE GOD

      Only way to get out of problems is to follow truth absolute, to solve problems your self, and GOOD LORD AND GOD, TRUTH ABSOLUTE WILL HELP TO FREE HUMANITY FROM THEIR hINDUISM, WRONG DOING'S.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
  4. Early Irish Christians

    ...and though they grieved and rent their clothes, it was in the pub the followers gathered for darts and dark ale which they hoisted in sadness and drank with great sorrow. Many libations they consumed and they called it the blood of the son of God.

    November 4, 2012 at 1:06 pm |
  5. Gripping granny

    OMG whoever would have thought it.

    November 4, 2012 at 1:04 pm |
    • Meatwad

      Don't grip Gram's, you can play with my imaginary dolls if you want to.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
  6. konrad_k_kay

    Faith is a beautiful, powerful thing that you foolish atheists can never know. The non-believers are so smug in their ivory towers, content in their ignorance and confidence for how the world works.

    In a way I envy them because when you know the TRUTH, the real truth that Great Cthulhu lies slumbering in his sunken city of R'lyeh awaiting the time when the stars are right and He shall rise to shred the sanity of all mankind before annihilating our puny species – well, let's just say that one sleeps better at night not knowing.

    Nonetheless you foolish atheists must repent, for your deaths withing the slimy coils of Cthulhu's embrace is inevitable but by worshiping His Loathsomeness you may have the great privilege of a quick death!

    November 4, 2012 at 1:04 pm |
    • pagan Jim

      I don't share your faith nor that of the writer. That said I found the writer to be a man I can respect even if he and I disagree. You on the other hand are a different story entirely.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
  7. Lola D

    I appreciate you don't advise people who to vote for in this article – refreshing. I do find your use of the term communion to be in contrast with what you intend to say in this article. I take your article as a reminder of what matters most and to reaffirm the sacredness of a person's connection to God. When you write "Gathering for Communion on Election Day" you express misunderstanding of the meaning of communion and actually tarnish it by trying to find the soulful in the political. Politics, while we need them to work as a society, is about as far off from God as it comes. Politics is all about the ego even when a candidate has some sort of spiritual aspect about him/her. These people are not Godlike, although they may think they are. When in communion with God/Source/Etc (I don't believe in a chosen people or religion – that is blasphemy) a person understands that this world happens in a blink of an eye. That no matter who wins an election the same divine principals exist. The lesson is for each of us to create a strong enough connection with our Source/God that the trivial no longer matters. If people were to have a clear and solid cord to God they would vote as Jesus would rather than how the church would vote. Jesus was incredibly progressive, he was compassionate and he believed in living a humble simple life. The people who are most right for the job of government do not get elected because they are too much like Jesus. They are altruistic, humble and accountable. In this country, we vote for the loudest more persuasive people and we don't care so much about substance. You just need to be more careful in what you attach the word "communion" to even if it sounds catchy.

    November 4, 2012 at 1:03 pm |
    • Thalo85

      Christ was born of the Holy Virgin Mary so as to live as we do. To prove that with the Love and Faith of God anything is possible. If you have breath than you have purpose. Live in Love. Science and religion do not have to be enemies. Science is a tool God gave us along with our minds. God made everyone therefore all are equal. God Bless You All.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:16 pm |
  8. 24HCC

    Maybe one of you Christian geniuses can explain this to me. Ok, God is Jesus, Jesus is God. God wanted to have a physical manifestation of himself on Earth and though he created the heavens and the Earth, Adam and Eve, he couldn't manage a “Jesus” so he knocked up a virgin by proxy who then gave birth to Himself and then he waited for himself to grow up so that he could preach the "truth" to those who would listen.

    Then he set up his own death so that he could suffer on a cross to "die" (even though he can't die) for the sins of all the many billions of people who would be born who had not yet committed any sins but for whom he has a plan and that plan includes sinning for some unknown reason so he needed to die for them. Then he becomes a ghost, takes a little trip to Hades to hang with the red guy and then he "rises" and walks about frightening people and then disappears after telling everyone he would return and never shows his face again.

    Why?

    I would offer this counter possibility. Mary got knocked up by the blacksmith. Jesus was a cult leader. Jesus broke the law and was punished and died.

    November 4, 2012 at 1:03 pm |
    • Decisions Decisions

      Like I said before, you haven't read the Bible. That explains all of that for you.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:04 pm |
    • DUMP hINDU FABRICATION MITHRA ISM, SAVIOR ISM, CHRISTIANITY, VOTE FOR TRUTH ABSOLUTE GOD

      fundamental of hinduism, racism. followed by hindu ignorant gentile, slave Christians.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:05 pm |
    • Believer

      You know, you are supposed to respect others beliefs, no one knows till we die, you are probably thinking I'm some whiney nut, but you are being one saying how we are dumb, anything can sound smart or stupid, for example, atheism, the belief that nothing happened and the universe wasn't created and nothing happened to cause anything.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
    • Meatwad

      @Decisions Decisions

      Like I said, what don't I understand? Is it really that difficult for you to explain, since you are so knowledeable?

      November 4, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
    • Byrd

      Yeah, that about sums it up.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:12 pm |
    • 24HCC

      @Believer

      You are REALLY stupid. Wow.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:15 pm |
    • FrayedJeff

      As an Atheist myself, I too recommend you read the bible. Nothing else will make someone an Atheist faster than reading the bible will.
      Always be skeptical, less you end up buying a bridge.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
  9. NoTheism

    Dictators are evil. God is a dictator. Thus, God is evil.

    November 4, 2012 at 1:00 pm |
    • NoTheism

      I should have been more precise. The god in question is the Judeo-Christian-Muslim god.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:00 pm |
    • Decisions Decisions

      the "Muslim" god is not the same as the Judeo Christian God, completely different character...

      November 4, 2012 at 1:03 pm |
    • 24HCC

      By definition a kingdom is immoral. That is one of the most ironic inconsistencies with mono-theistic belief systems. They abhor dictators, but then turn right around and worship one.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:04 pm |
    • Mark

      Not a dictator. He is our father and king..and we will inherit his kingdom as his children.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:27 pm |
  10. Rainer Braendlein

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAA0A5WpZE4&w=640&h=390]

    November 4, 2012 at 12:54 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Rainbucket, do you really think you're helping your cause here?

      November 4, 2012 at 12:56 pm |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      Note: It is not sure that Jesus has ever been in England. This is a myth which is not taken from the New Testament. However, it is not impossible that Jesus has ever been in England because it is a fact that Constantine the Great who lived a little later than Jesus dwelled in Germany very often, also in England, and he came from Greece.

      November 4, 2012 at 12:58 pm |
    • Anybody know how to read?

      Rainy, I've only played one vid on these boards.

      November 4, 2012 at 12:59 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Again, so what?

      November 4, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
  11. Decisions Decisions

    It is time to bring back Creationism to our schools. Look how dumb are kids are becoming after taking creationism out of public schools! Our schools are now ranked 17th in the world in education! Apes aren't intelligent beings, it is time to stop lying to our kids telling them they evolved from them! Time to get America back into the top education levels.

    November 4, 2012 at 12:54 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Why don't you start by getting that GED, Ronnie?

      November 4, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
    • DUMP hINDU FABRICATION MITHRA ISM, SAVIOR ISM, CHRISTIANITY, VOTE FOR TRUTH ABSOLUTE GOD

      hinduism, absurdity, how a hindu lair Christian can claim things about others, while lives by hindu Pharisee ism, self center ism as faith?

      November 4, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
    • Mikky_H

      i really hope you are being sarcastic

      November 4, 2012 at 1:02 pm |
    • Jim Jensen

      I'm cool with having creationism in our public schools as long as you're okay with children being taught the Quran in Sunday School.

      Let's expose children to everything and let them decide.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:04 pm |
  12. Mr. Crabs

    Ahoy me lads and lassies. You all be worshippin' the wrong God!

    The great Crabala is the one true Crab God, and all of us Crabs are called to the Crabby Hajj.

    So finish your patties and swim friends, but don't forget to pay first!

    November 4, 2012 at 12:52 pm |
  13. albie

    this article shows one of the biggest reasons why christianity is a bad thing for this country

    November 4, 2012 at 12:48 pm |
    • Decisions Decisions

      Why because they vote against those that kill babies and want gay "rights"?

      November 4, 2012 at 12:50 pm |
    • DUMP hINDU FABRICATION MITHRA ISM, SAVIOR ISM, CHRISTIANITY, VOTE FOR TRUTH ABSOLUTE GOD

      but live by hinduism, racism as their faith.

      November 4, 2012 at 12:51 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Delusions, why are you using another new screen name? Why not your original one? Or did you forget what it was? You've had so many, and all of them write the same idiotic drivel. Nobody's "killing babies" you nincompoop. Lying to make your point simply undermines it.

      November 4, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
    • sam stone

      decisions, decisions: citizens have rights. including the right to marry. gays who are citizens have these rights. to deny them this right is bigotry. to wrap up the bigotry in a bible just makes it pious bigotry.

      November 4, 2012 at 12:59 pm |
    • Decisions Decisions

      Abortion during Obama has killed more Americans than the "Bush Wars".

      November 4, 2012 at 12:59 pm |
    • Anybody know how to read?

      stony, you are the bigot.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:11 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      How many Iranian, Afghani, and Iraqi children did those wars kill? How many fetuses?

      How many kids have you adopted, Ronnie?

      November 4, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
  14. 24HCC

    Christians ignore Jesus

    Christians are Liars

    Jesus made a number of very clear statements about money and wealth in the Bible. For example:

    Matthew 6:19
    Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

    Luke 14:33
    Any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple.

    Matthew 6:24
    No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and Money.

    Matthew 19:21-24
    Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

    Matthew 19:28-29
    Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.

    Luke 9:23-25
    Then he said to them all: "If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me will save it. What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, and yet lose or forfeit his very self?

    Matt 13: 22
    The one who received the seed that fell among the thorns is the man who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke it, making it unfruitful.

    Hebrews 13:5
    Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you."

    Phil 2:3
    Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves.

    Acts 2:44-45
    All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need.

    The message is clear. If you want to follow Jesus, you need to "sell your possessions and give to the poor." It is a very simple message, and easy to do. Have you done it? The fact that you are reading this page would indicate that you have not. Chances are you own a computer, pay for an Internet connection every month, live in a home or apartment, have a car, etc. In other words, you live a life at a level of wealth unimaginable in Jesus' time. Meanwhile, billions of people on the planet live in startling, abject poverty.

    Why don't you sell everything and follow Jesus, as he requests in the Bible? The reason is simple: Jesus and God are imaginary, and you know it. If Jesus were real, you would do what he says.

    November 4, 2012 at 12:48 pm |
    • Decisions Decisions

      and you are my imaginary friend Ralf....

      November 4, 2012 at 12:49 pm |
    • Anybody know how to read?

      You quoted :'.............Acts 2:44-45
      All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need..................' You didn't tell the rest of the story, ya little antichrist, where Paul had to take up collections for them after they became poor. That shoulda stopped socialism in its tracks. But the powers that be kept you in ignorance, with your complicit approval.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:06 pm |
    • tallulah13

      The problem too many christians with Jesus is that doing what he wanted just isn't fun. It's more fun to amass wealth and use the old testament as an excuse to hate people or tell them what to do, rather than selling their earthly goods to give to the poor, turning the other cheek or being without sin before casting the first stone. But they still have to do lip service to Jesus, because believing in him is the only way they can get that reward after they die. They certainly won't earn "heaven" with their own behavior.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
    • Anybody know how to read?

      tallulah13, the 'least' do the judging. Are you even a member?

      November 4, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • James

      Many Christians do still give up, if not everything, much of what they have- to feed the poor and to help those who are in need. There certainly are Christians who have given up everything. I do think that you are misreading those scriptures, however. Jesus was fully aware that in those early days, to proclaim allegiance to Jesus meant that they would be attacked and they would likely lose everything. He was talking about counting the cost. We don't live in that kind of society, here in America. There are places around the world where it is true, though. For a person in Iran to denounce Islam and convert to Christianity very likely means that they will lose all that they have, including their lives. I don't believe that Jesus is asking all Christians to have no possessions, though there may be times when He does. I believe He calls us to be willing to do that. You are making an assumption. It's a valid question and there are unfortunately far too many who take the name of Jesus who seem to be more concerned with wealth and power than with humility and service. They aren't my problem. God calls me to be responsible for my own actions and to speak the truth. I'm glad that you're reading the scriptures. I encourage you move beyond just reading them to make an argument.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:22 pm |
  15. Don't Drive Angry

    Christians are not Mormons. They believe that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are one separate god. They are monotheists who do not believe in three separate gods. They do not believe that the Father, God, is an exalted man and has a physical body. They believe that the Bible is inerrant, and that salvation comes through faith alone.

    November 4, 2012 at 12:47 pm |
    • Harrison

      Mormons also reject the Holy Trinity. That is the deal-breaker for most Christians.

      November 4, 2012 at 12:49 pm |
    • Decisions Decisions

      And Obama is not a Christian, but he plays one on TV...

      November 4, 2012 at 12:50 pm |
    • Mr. Crabs

      @Harrison

      I don't care what other Mormons believe, I am just sick of Christians jumping on the Mormon band wagon!

      November 4, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
    • Harrison

      The President is a baptized Christian, so was his Mother and his Grandparents who helped raise him. Mrs. Obama is too as were her Parents . Thier two daughters are also. You can not say this about any orf the Romneys. His Great Grandfather had to flee to Mexico with his many wives to escape from US Law. They settled there and founded a Polygamist Mormon Community that is still there with Romneys there too.

      November 4, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
    • Don't Drive Angry

      @Harrison

      You are not understand me at all. This nation was built on the backbone of strong Mormon faith. Christians aren't even polytheistic, it is absurd. Yet everone wants to be a Mormon now, like it is the flavor of the day.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:00 pm |
    • Decisions Decisions

      I am sorry, Obama attending the Black Supremacist Rev. Wright's church doesn't qualify him as a Christian.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:01 pm |
  16. 24HCC

    Why, when you read the Bible, are you not left in awe? Why doesn't a book written by an omniscient being leave you with a sense of wonder and amazement? If you are reading a book written by the all-powerful, all-knowing, all-loving creator of the universe, wouldn't you expect to be stunned by the brilliance, the clarity and the wisdom of the author? Would you not expect each new page to intoxicate you with its incredible prose and its spectacular insight? Wouldn't you expect the author to tell us things that scientists have not been able to discover yet?

    Yet, when we open the Bible and actually read it, we find it is nothing like that at all. Instead of leaving us in awe, it leaves us dumbfounded by all of the nonsense and backwardness that it contains. If you read what the Bible actually says, you find that the Bible is ridiculous. The Bible is a book written thousands of years ago by primitive men. A book that advocates senseless murder, slavery and the oppression of women.

    Why would anyone want to adopt this horrible book as a basis for a religion and a lifestyle?

    November 4, 2012 at 12:45 pm |
    • Decisions Decisions

      Lol, so obviously you haven't actually read it...

      November 4, 2012 at 12:51 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      As if you have.

      November 4, 2012 at 12:52 pm |
    • Decisions Decisions

      In a couple languages actually...

      November 4, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
    • 24HCC

      @Decisions Decisions

      If I had not read it I would not have an opinion about it. And if YOU had read it, you would be an atheist.

      November 4, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
    • Decisions Decisions

      Nah, nice try though. You hate God, but it wasn't because you read the Bible.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:02 pm |
    • WachetAuf

      The Bible has two components,a sI see it. One is a pragmatic message about how people must govern their relationships with one another. It recognizes and invites us to rise above the primitive impulses which resides in all of us. Particularly impressive is Jesus' message of tolerance. I can say that this message is inspiring. The other element of the Bible is the mystical. It asks me to believe things which are beyond reason. That does nto inspire me. But, I return to the practical messages. That is awe inspiring.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:12 pm |
  17. Bootyfunk

    care and compassion? jesus promoted slavery:

    Luke 12:37-38
    37 "Blessed are those slaves whom the master will find on the alert when he comes; truly I say to you, that he will gird himself to serve, and have them recline at the table, and will come up and wait on them.
    38 "Whether he comes in the second watch, or even in the third, and finds them so, blessed are those slaves.”

    November 4, 2012 at 12:45 pm |
    • Decisions Decisions

      Wow, so "I have come to set the captives free" doesn't mean anything to you?

      November 4, 2012 at 12:47 pm |
  18. God's Oldest Dreamer

    Keep solvencies' attributions above the rippling waters of societal mechanisms. Steady one's coursing affairs around vacationing diplomatic rhythms' wretched wranglings. Leave when the arbitrary subtleness rips apart the colloquialisms' basing of vitalizing frothiness. Highlight the unseen and temper it with the still yet unknowable. Love your God and no one elses' God. Treasure the times when your own God becomes revealed to you. Seek not the Gods of others and forsake not the God of your body's being. For God did build you and does live inside your embodied being and will never foresake you when the end does come.

    1Corinthians 3:9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, [ye are] God's building.

    Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

    November 4, 2012 at 12:45 pm |
  19. Decisions Decisions

    Sad to hear that Obama is blaming Hurricane Sandy and the Libya attacks on Bush...

    November 4, 2012 at 12:45 pm |
  20. Rainer Braendlein

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJCxt2DjZK0&w=640&h=390]

    November 4, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      More choirs? More churches? More hymns?

      And? What's your point, Rainy? That you figured out how to post youtube videos?

      I guess when you get caught in a lie, you can't really do much else.

      November 4, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
    • Tibor Warski

      If you're too damn lazy or stupid to post in your own words then GTFO. Useless git.

      November 4, 2012 at 1:09 pm |
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