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November 7th, 2012
08:21 AM ET

Election results raise questions about Christian right's influence

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

Washington (CNN) – For many conservative Christian leaders, it was a nightmare scenario: Barack Obama decisively re-elected. Same-sex marriage adopted by voters in some states. Rigorously anti-abortion candidates defeated in conservative red states.

On multiple levels, Tuesday’s election results raised questions about the Christian right’s agenda on American politics, eight years after the movement helped sweep President George W. Bush into a second term and opened the era of state bans on same-sex marriage.

“For the first time tonight, same-sex marriage has been passed by popular vote in Maine and Maryland,” said Robert P. Jones, a Washington-based pollster who specializes in questions about politics and religion.

“The historic nature of these results are hard to overstate,” Jones said. “Given the strong support of younger Americans for same-sex marriage, it is unlikely this issue will reappear as a major national wedge issue.”

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Some conservative evangelical leaders echoed that line. Albert Mohler, who heads the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, said on Twitter that votes for same-sex marriage suggested that “we are witnessing a fundamental moral realignment of the country.”

A Tuesday ballot measure to legalize same-sex marriage in Washington state is still pending. In Minnesota, voters rejected a Tuesday measure that would have banned same-sex marriage there.

Thirty-eight states have banned same-sex marriage, mostly via constitutional amendments.

Obama’s victory also raised questions about the Christian right's influence in the electorate.

Though evangelical leaders as diverse as the Southern Baptist Convention’s Richard Land and Christian icon Billy Graham voiced support for Mitt Romney (Graham stopped short of an official endorsement), Obama performed better among white evangelicals than he did in 2008 in some states.

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In swing state Ohio, exit polls showed that Obama got 30% support among white evangelicals. While that’s hardly a victory, it’s better than the 27% support Obama got among those voters four years ago.

Before the election, many evangelical leaders predicted that opposition to Obama over his support for abortion rights, his personal endorsement of same-sex marriage and his vision of government as a force for good would trump reservations evangelicals had about Romney’s past social liberalism and his Mormon faith.

“There is no evidence in voting patterns that President Obama's 'evolution' on same-sex marriage cost him anything,” Mohler said in another tweet Tuesday night.

Obama also narrowly won Catholics, even after the U.S. Catholic bishops waged a rigorous campaign against the Obama administration around the issue of religious liberty. The bishops alleged Obama was forcing Catholics to violate their own teachings by making health insurance companies provide free contraception coverage for virtually all employees.

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John Green, a religion and politics expert at the University of Akron, said Obama’s win among Catholics was partly a testament to the growing Latino demographic.

“Maybe Hispanic Catholics were not as moved by religious liberty-type arguments as by immigration and economics,” he said.

Unlike in 2004, when John Kerry a former altar boy lost Catholic voters, the Obama campaign had a robust religious outreach program aimed largely at Catholic and evangelical voters. The effort included videos from Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, a Catholic, talking about their Christian faith.

Obama's success among some religious demographics also illustrated how economic issues, as opposed to culture war concerns, dominated the election cycle.

The defeat Tuesday of two Republican Senate candidates who made national headlines with anti-abortion remarks also raised questions about the Christian right’s power.

In Missouri, U.S. Senate candidate Todd Akin, who in August walked back his remark that "if it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down," lost his bid to unseat Sen. Claire McCaskill, a Democrat.

Akin’s campaign became a national cause for conservative Christian activists after the Republican Party abandoned the candidate and encouraged him to drop out over his abortion remark.

In Indiana, Republican Senate candidate Richard Mourdock lost his race against Democrat Joe Donnelly after saying last month that pregnancies resulting from rape are “something that God intended to happen.”

Conservative Christians did claim some victories Tuesday night, including helping the GOP retain control of the U.S. House of Representatives and helping elect tea party favorite Ted Cruz as a U.S. senator from Texas.

Ralph Reed, the leader of conservative group the Faith & Freedom Coalition, planned a Wednesday morning press conference to release his data about what he called the enduring influence of “values voters.”

“Preliminary evidence is they turned out and they voted heavily for Romney,” Reed said in an e-mail message Tuesday night.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: 2012 Election • Christianity • Politics

soundoff (4,434 Responses)
  1. Teluu

    Religion has no place in 21st century and beyond. Religion makes you ignorant, absent minded, less educated and short sighted.

    November 7, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
  2. LeeCMH

    HA HA HA you hateful Christians!

    I hate you as much as you hate me.

    I've endured more than 50 years Christian hate. I am glad the nation is finally turning away from their "wedge" issues.

    November 7, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
  3. zrunner99

    When marriage is redefined to contain gay marriage and encouraged, the society is sick.
    When society is toward a welfare society, and responsibility lapse, the society will eventually collapse.

    November 7, 2012 at 4:06 pm |
    • Christopher Walken

      Yawn. Well...just, you know. yawn.

      November 7, 2012 at 4:08 pm |
    • sam stone

      zrunner: gay marriage is about equal rights under the law. if you don't support equal rights, you are a bigot. If you use to bible to justify your bigotry, you are a pious bigot. how is that the hallmark of a healthy society?

      November 7, 2012 at 4:15 pm |
    • swing state voter

      If being a welfare state means that the elderly get the healthcare they need, then I guess I'm for a welfare state.

      And the rest of your post is just bigotry.

      November 7, 2012 at 4:18 pm |
    • Eric

      No one can tell where you're getting your information from! You sound like a parrot...as so many who espouse your dogma do. Your perception is only that – your perception. It has no basis in fact and it is the ignorant who profess it.

      November 7, 2012 at 4:21 pm |
    • LittleHero

      Allowing gay marriage is not encouraging it – do you actually think that straight people will decide to become gay? Did allowing inter-racial marriage encourage it? Marriage happens when two people love each other and want to commit. How does anything at all encourage marriage? Do you actually think that people get married just for the tax benefits?

      November 7, 2012 at 4:26 pm |
  4. Gregory Adamson

    The bottom like is that people are afraid of change. When Lincoln was working to get rid of slavery, people were scared it would mess up their way of life. When women wanted to vote, men were afraid their women would start being more powerful. Gay people started wanting the same marriage rights as others so people started being afraid. I black man finally got in the White House and people were afraid, and now the same black man is back in and they are continuing to be afraid. Who is this group that if afraid? White conservative christian who are want things to always stay just like they are. Wake up white conservative christions.... Did these things mentioned above caused our world to turn into a big pile of mush? No. And you know what? Gay marriage and a black man staying in the White House wont either. Relax people!!

    November 7, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
  5. Reality

    An now for some reality. How are we going to pay off our $16 trillion debt? Said election did nothing to solve the problem. Even Romney had no answers.

    One great starting point is to get rid of all religions putting the money currently spent supporting these outdated beliefs towards paying off our national debt.

    Some examples-

    There never were and never will be any angels i.e. no Gabriel, no Islam and therefore no more koranic-driven acts of horror and terror LIKE 9/11.

    – One trillion dollars over the next several years as the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan will end.

    – Eighteen billion dollars/yr to Pakistan will stop.

    – Four billion dollars/yr to Egypt will end.

    There were never any bodily resurrections and there will never be any bodily resurrections i.e. No Easter, no Christianity!!!

    – The Mormon ti-the empire will now become taxable as will all Christian "religions" and evangelical non-profits since there is no longer any claim to being a tax-exempt religion.

    – the faith-based federal projects supported by both Bush and Obama will be eliminated saving $385 million/yr and another $2 billion/yr in grants.

    – Saving 15.5 million Orthodox followers of Judaism:
    Abraham and Moses never existed.

    – Four billion dollars/yr to Israel saved.

    – All Jewish sects and non-profits will no longer be tax exempt.

    Total debt paydown: $ one trillion twenty-nine billion in one year alone !!! Now we are getting somewhere.

    November 7, 2012 at 3:58 pm |
    • Mike

      It's not just the "Jewish sects"

      November 7, 2012 at 4:14 pm |
    • krussell

      Inflation.
      When the economy really does get bad, inflation will increase and the real value of the debt will be reduced to a fraction of its current level.

      November 7, 2012 at 4:20 pm |
    • Reality

      The Jewish Sects/Denominations:

      – Orthodox Judaism. .
      -Conservative Judaism or Masorti Judaism.
      -Reform Judaism or Progressive Judaism.
      – Reconstructionist Judaism. .
      – Humanistic Judaism.
      -Neolog Judaism,
      -Jewish Renewal.
      -Jewish Science.

      November 7, 2012 at 11:49 pm |
  6. ForGoodOfAll

    Leave God out of politics. Thank you.

    November 7, 2012 at 3:54 pm |
    • Patricksday

      In reality the Republicans always leave God out, they just toss the name around. According to "Christians" this creature they call Satan is all about the values of the GOP- Greed, Selfishness, Materialism, Hording their riches in off shore bank accounts, denial of the Poor and Elderly and Exclusion of anyone who does not follow the same Creature they bow to in darkness.

      November 7, 2012 at 4:01 pm |
  7. correctbook

    Romans one, verses 18 thru 32 correctly describes the state of the US. As soon as chris tians themselves do not follow their religion, (and of course non-chris tians do not), then there are consequences. It's a perfect description of the US.

    Welcome to your world. Philistines rule !!!

    November 7, 2012 at 3:50 pm |
    • Judas is my homeboy

      Blah bla bible says blah blah, more fairy tales that have no use in modern society. Shut up.

      November 7, 2012 at 3:53 pm |
    • fairytales

      There's a song that goes "Fairy tales do come true. It could happen to you . . ."

      Oh wait. It did happen to the US. Just as the bible described. Ha ha ha. Enjoy your world.
      Just don't come back weeping "Why did God let this happen ?"

      November 7, 2012 at 4:04 pm |
  8. Willy

    If the Christian continues to push the country to Taliban rule, then they have no future in this country nor in Jesus' Kingdom.

    November 7, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
  9. Person of Faith

    God was behind Obama's win.

    November 7, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
    • Eric

      Not among those who use "religious faith" as a political weapon and sanctimoniously refer to themselves as the moral ones and the rest of us who do not agree with their ignorant and distorted view of things as immoral. The ignorant will remain ignorant until they are willing to evolve. And while they're so busy judging others and filling their small minds with more of the repulsive, hate-filled dogma, there is little space or energy left to rise above it.

      November 7, 2012 at 3:54 pm |
    • faith

      Which God ? Whose God ? Whose faith ?

      Obama claims to be chris tian but does not seem to subscribe to chris tian beliefs. And Americans are easily fooled. Probably because they don't know what it means to be chris tian either. Duh.

      November 7, 2012 at 3:54 pm |
    • swing state voter

      Faith: The religious right has been duped by people such as Karl Rove who only want their votes.

      November 7, 2012 at 3:58 pm |
  10. Reality

    Only for new members of this blog:-–>>>>

    As noted many times before the election:

    Why the Christian Right no longer matters in presidential elections:

    Once again, all the conservative votes in the country "ain't" going to help a "pro-life" presidential candidate, i.e Mitt Romney, in 2012 as the "Immoral Majority" rules the country and will be doing so for awhile. The "Immoral Majority" you ask?

    The fastest growing USA voting bloc: In 2008, the 70+ million "Roe vs. Wade mothers and fathers" of aborted womb-babies" whose ranks grow by two million per year i.e. 78+ million "IM" voters in 2012.

    And the irony:

    And all because many women fail to take the Pill once a day or men fail to use a condom even though in most cases these men have them in their pockets. (maybe they should be called the "Stupid Majority"?)

    The failures of the widely used birth "control" methods i.e. the Pill and male condom have led to the large rate of abortions ( one million/yr) and S-TDs (19 million/yr) in the USA. Men and women must either recognize their responsibilities by using the Pill or condoms properly and/or use other safer birth control methods in order to reduce the epidemics of abortion and S-TDs.

    i.e. IF THE PILL AND MALE CONDOMS WERE USED PROPERLY, ABORTION WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE AND OBAMA WOULD NOT BE PRESIDENT.

    And to appeal to the Immoral/Stupid Majority, Obama and Axelrod filled the airways with pro- Roe vs. Wade, pro-choice/abortion ads during the last two weeks of the campaign. Said ad expenditures should have been used to promulgate the Brutal Effects of Stupidity as noted previously.

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    November 7, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
    • Eliminate hinduism, Atheism, Secular ism. way of animals, not human.

      Bs of a hindu, ignorant.

      November 7, 2012 at 3:52 pm |
    • Susan StoHelit

      Lies, lies, lies. More than 50% of abortions are women who did use birth control. Most of them are also to married women, and mothers who have at least one child. Nor is it rational to believe that somehow the miracle of birth would have converted these men and women to Republicanism – most women become more pro-choice and often more liberal, when they become parents. I don't want my daughter to ever not have a choice, and experiencing childbirth shows just how much it must ALWAYS be a voluntary choice to carry a child.

      November 7, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
    • Right...

      So....Obama is trying to sabotage himself by offering free conception?

      November 7, 2012 at 4:08 pm |
    • WanHungLo

      If you cut off their deeks, then women won't get knocked off.
      No abortion needed.

      Another solution is for americans to have brains. But they don't. They're brain less like bunnies. They have sx like bunnies.

      November 7, 2012 at 4:09 pm |
    • Reality

      Some 21st century nitty-gritty:

      Necessary reading for your se-xually active daughters and sons:

      The reality of se-x, abortion, contraception and STD/HIV control: – from a guy who enjoys intelligent se-x-

      note: Some words hyphenated to defeat an obvious word filter. ...

      The Brutal Effects of Stupidity:

      : The failures of the widely used birth "control" methods i.e. the Pill (8.7% actual failure rate) and male con-dom (17.4% actual failure rate) have led to the large rate of abortions and S-TDs in the USA. Men and women must either recognize their responsibilities by using the Pill or co-ndoms properly and/or use safer methods in order to reduce the epidemics of abortion and S-TDs.- Failure rate statistics provided by the Gut-tmacher Inst-itute. Unfortunately they do not give the statistics for doubling up i.e. using a combination of the Pill and a condom.

      Added information before making your next move:

      from the CDC-2006

      "Se-xually transmitted diseases (STDs) remain a major public health challenge in the United States. While substantial progress has been made in preventing, diagnosing, and treating certain S-TDs in recent years, CDC estimates that approximately 19 million new infections occur each year, almost half of them among young people ages 15 to 24.1 In addition to the physical and psy-ch-ological consequences of S-TDs, these diseases also exact a tremendous economic toll. Direct medical costs as-sociated with STDs in the United States are estimated at up to $14.7 billion annually in 2006 dollars."

      And from:

      Consumer Reports, January, 2012

      "Yes, or-al se-x is se-x, and it can boost cancer risk-

      Here's a crucial message for teens (and all se-xually active "post-teeners": Or-al se-x carries many of the same risks as va-ginal se-x, including human papilloma virus, or HPV. And HPV may now be overtaking tobacco as the leading cause of or-al cancers in America in people under age 50.

      "Adolescents don’t think or-al se-x is something to worry about," said Bonnie Halpern-Felsher professor of pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisco. "They view it as a way to have intimacy without having 's-ex.'" (It should be called the Bill Clinton Syndrome !!)

      Obviously, political leaders in both parties, Planned Parenthood, parents, the "stupid part of the USA" and the educational system have failed miserably on many fronts.

      The most effective forms of contraception, ranked by "Perfect use":
      – (Abstinence, 0% failure rate)
      – (Masturbation, mono or mutual, 0% failure rate)
      Followed by:
      One-month injectable and Implant (both at 0.05 percent)
      Vasectomy and IUD (Mirena) (both at 0.1 percent)
      The Pill, Three-month injectable, and the Patch (all at 0.3 percent)
      Tubal sterilization (at 0.5 percent)
      IUD (Copper-T) (0.6 percent)
      Periodic abstinence (Post-ovulation) (1.0 percent)
      Periodic abstinence (Symptothermal) and Male condom (both at 2.0 percent)
      Periodic abstinence (Ovulation method) (3.0 percent)

      Every other method ranks below these, including Withdrawal (4.0), Female condom (5.0), Diaphragm (6.0), Periodic abstinence (calendar) (9.0), the Sponge (9.0-20.0, depending on whether the woman using it has had a child in the past), Cervical cap (9.0-26.0, with the same caveat as the Sponge), and Spermicides (18.0).

      November 8, 2012 at 12:00 am |
    • hevibols

      Slice off the deeks. Cast rate the bunnies

      November 8, 2012 at 11:00 am |
    • tallulah13

      I think the screen name "Reality" is supposed to be ironic.

      November 8, 2012 at 11:04 am |
  11. Eric G

    How could anyone have a choice if your god already knows the outcome? That would mean that he created souls just to torture them because he knew in advance they would choose wrong. The way you describe him, your god sounds like a bit of a dick.

    November 7, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
    • Eliminate hinduism, Atheism, Secular ism. way of animals, not human.

      Person having a chice to learn not to make choice in hinduism, denial of truth, or he knows as much as GOD, result of his hinduism, denial of truth absolute.

      November 7, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
    • sam stone

      "a BIT of a dick"

      sort of an understatement

      November 7, 2012 at 4:23 pm |
  12. Eric

    The failure of the religious right wing zealots who once claimed their victories as proof of "God" being on their side should be a clear indicator that this bunch rises and falls on the gullibility of those who fall prey to their misguided, disingenuous messaging. They do not speak on behalf of "God" nor are they or their message anymore real than anyone will allow it to be. They are the fearful and ignorant being led by the the meglomaniacs who would fail at all other things. The leaders claim to speak for "God" when all they do is rehash archaic MAN MADE dogma attributed to a "God" who more closely resembles man's feeble mind and violent nature rather than the other way around. God did not create man in his own image. It's the other way around. And the evolution of the human mind and spirit makes this clear. As more move towards this more genuine vision of our reality, the power and sway of these charlatan's who have caused humanity so much harm and suffering will lose more of their grip until they fade into obscurity. It can't emerge soon enough. By using the power of "God" and all the fear invoked using it, we have been stymied, held in bondage, suffered needlessly and all of us forced to indulge the ignorance of evangelical, fundametalist religious zealots who do not offer us anything of redeeming value if the truth be told. The turning point has arrived. The influence and impact of the ignorant will fade and a better vision going forward is possible.

    November 7, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
    • km

      Sounds like alot of bigotry and hate speech there ole enlightened Eric.

      November 7, 2012 at 4:09 pm |
  13. Rev. Rick

    As a former member of the "far right", I never saw myself as such. I was attempting to sell what I had been told and sold as "the truth". Turns out I was (mostly) wrong. Only when I began to think for myself and to question what I had been told, did I see that the "other side" had some valid points – I simply didn't want to hear them, much less attempt to understand them. Do I think that Obama has all the answers? NO – he does not. But neither do the fear-mongers and mud-slinging blow-bags like Rush Limbaugh. I am actually horrified that I used to listen to people like Limbaugh, much less believe they had anything to offer in the way of political discourse. THey are in it for themselves and to push their own vitriolic agenda without regard for who they hurt or even whether their stories even contain a grain of truth. The people of the US have spoken and now it's time for people like Limbaugh to sit down and shut up.

    November 7, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
    • Eric

      Rick – I for one am grateful for your post. You are the embodiment of which I speak and you offer more hope with every word.

      November 7, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
    • Too Much

      I think its very impressive that you were able to continue to seek alternative viewpoints even though it seems you were pretty well sold on one ideology. More of us could use that sensibility.

      November 7, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
    • Rev. Rick

      @ Eric and TOO MUCH – Thanks. I only hope the strangle-hold that the far right has on the Republican party will soon fade. I might even began calling myself a Republican again, but for now, I don't even recognize these people as someone I could associate with.

      November 7, 2012 at 4:01 pm |
    • Eric

      Agreed Rick. The current day GOP has turned into a vile instument of hate and ignorance. I think the real masters of the GOP learned they would not ever win again unless they expanded their numbers and chose to seek out those they thought would be maliable – evangelical and extremist religious believers. I doubt they understood how out of control their agenda could spin and how in the end their hateful ignorance would come to hurt them as they endeavor to manipulate election results through a myriad of methods. They got what they deserved based on what it is they contribute to the national dialogue.

      November 7, 2012 at 4:12 pm |
  14. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    November 7, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
    • TrollAlert

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      "pervert alert"

      This troll is not a christian.

      November 7, 2012 at 3:48 pm |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs.

      November 7, 2012 at 3:48 pm |
    • truth be told

      Two responses one poster, slow on the copy / paste hal ass hole?

      November 7, 2012 at 3:52 pm |
    • TrollAlert

      "truth be told" degenerates to:

      November 7, 2012 at 3:53 pm |
    • christopher hitchens

      Got excited and fvcked up our copy / paste did we?

      November 7, 2012 at 3:56 pm |
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      christopher hitchens degenerates to:

      November 7, 2012 at 3:57 pm |
    • Eric

      Says you who lives in your small, little world. I'm not saying prayer does nothing but thinking only your version of religiously taught prayer makes it happen is small and unimaginative. There are many ways to "pray" or connect with our spiritual nature/ aspect. Some choose not to. No big deal. Others choose to do so without the assistance of ignorant religious dogma and I'd say it works even better than the misplaced focus encouraged by fear of not "believing" (in religious dogma). The fact is we are all manifestations of "God" and we all have it in us to connect with our spirtual essense without benefit of organized religion. We all have the power to affect our lives for the better without having to submit to religion based fear which is all man made. More will come to understand this and less will feel compelled to surrender to the fear which inspires religous teachings, gives power to those who lead (and abuse) it and keeps us from more honestly connecting with it in ourselves.

      November 7, 2012 at 4:01 pm |
    • James

      Says you who lives in your small, little world. I'm not saying prayer does nothing but thinking only your version of religiously taught prayer makes it happen is small and unimaginative. There are many ways to "pray" or connect with our spiritual nature/ aspect. Some choose not to. No big deal. Others choose to do so without the assistance of ignorant religious dogma and I'd say it works even better than the misplaced focus encouraged by fear of not "believing" (in religious dogma). The fact is we are all manifestations of "God" and we all have it in us to connect with our spirtual essense without benefit of organized religion. We all have the power to affect our lives for the better without having to submit to religion based fear which is all man made. More will come to understand this and less will feel compelled to surrender to the fear which inspires religous teachings, gives power to those who lead (and abuse) it and keeps us from more honestly connecting with it in ourselves.

      November 7, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
    • Jim Fox

      Where's your evidence? Prayer changes NOTHING. In what way is atheism "unhealthy"? Religion poisons the mind.

      November 7, 2012 at 4:03 pm |
    • Brian R

      Tell that to the tens of thousands of Christians that died in the Roman gladiator pits. They were all praying, I am sure, and that did nothing to help them. This is just one of many accounts that disprove your theory

      November 7, 2012 at 4:27 pm |
  15. Moron-I

    Hello! Any "Christian" who voted for a Mormon has received the wrath of God via the election results. Any "Christian" who set aside his Christianity for politics, ditto.

    November 7, 2012 at 3:46 pm |
    • Man-of-God

      Any Christian who lets political doctrine guide his spiritual beliefs has turned away from the spiritual realm Christ calls us into. Fundamentalist cults are the problem.

      November 7, 2012 at 4:00 pm |
    • Chad

      Jesus Christ is at the center of the Mormon religion.

      November 7, 2012 at 4:06 pm |
  16. RL

    Obama no Christian.
    Whoever Blesses Israel will be Blessed, whoever goes against Israel will be cursed!!! Mark my words OBAMA will be cursed!! Anybody notice the dead bodies attached to him!!! Look it up!!! You asked for it!!!

    November 7, 2012 at 3:46 pm |
    • OOO

      OMG, You already forgot that you posted this before! You must take your meds RL!

      November 7, 2012 at 3:48 pm |
    • truth be told

      The poor leadership barry brings is Gods curse on America. In four more years years proper Washington will look like the hood.

      November 7, 2012 at 3:50 pm |
    • fred

      Truth be told
      If God can use Cyrus to accomplish the purpose for the chosen ones then Obama is also a great tool. He can be a tool in the hands of God or a tool in the hands of Evil. Why do you assume evil?

      November 7, 2012 at 3:54 pm |
    • Rev. Rick

      Do I believe we should support Israel? Yes, but not because I or anyone else is a Christian. Let me ask you this....what do most Christians believe will happen to a Jew when he or she dies? As a devout Christian, I was always taught that non-Christians would go to hell because they did not accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour. This would seem to me to include Jews. This really makes Christians two-faced when it comes to "supporting and embracing" Israel. Jews are no more going to hell than anyone else. They deserve to live in peace just like we do, and just as do the Palestinians! This Christian support of Jews is an excuse to extend our influence in the MIddle East. Nothing more.

      November 7, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
    • fred

      Rev.Rick
      Your thought only holds as to those in power in the U.S. that at are non believers or those that hold a false Christian belief. The Jews and Gentils both have the choice to accept or reject God. God is very capable of waking up the heart of anyone God elects.
      Gods purpose in the middle east is very different from that of secular interests in the area. Never forget that these chosen ones were smacked down 5 times in their history (6 if you count Hitler) and continue to end up in a pickle just like they are today. It may be a Kosher pickel but a pickel just the same. They do this to themselves over and over again but never get the picture.

      November 7, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
    • Eric

      Delusions – as in yours bear no resemblance to reality. Those who claim to speak for "God" are only parroting ignorant beliefs they've been taught. That you accept such absurd information as truth gives you little credence to enlighten others.

      November 7, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
    • sam stone

      RL: Why should anyone give a damn about your words? Because they are parroted from an iron age comic book?

      November 7, 2012 at 4:27 pm |
    • fred

      Eric
      Sorry, but all of our last presidents claimed to be Christian and may well have been. I doubt they were all delusional so let's keep things in persective. To the extent you reject God you are suffering in the delusional cloud only yours is very dark. If you are opposed to the darkness then defend your delusion that there is unknown X before were became aware and unknown X when organic chemical reactions cease. Is that unknown in the light or darkness ?

      November 7, 2012 at 4:47 pm |
    • LittleHero

      Rev Rick

      If you really feel the need for spiritual community, might I suggest the Unitarians. As an atheist this is the only house of worship that I have felt comfortable in. And they do not believe in hell.

      November 7, 2012 at 5:03 pm |
  17. Patrick

    Is the influence of the Christian right at an end? For the love of God, let's hope so.

    November 7, 2012 at 3:45 pm |
    • nope

      @pa...
      nope

      November 7, 2012 at 3:51 pm |
    • .

      nope is a dope

      November 7, 2012 at 3:52 pm |
    • and as always

      (.) is wrong

      November 7, 2012 at 3:53 pm |
    • TrollAlert

      "Ronald Regonzo" who degenerates to:
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      This troll is not a christian.

      November 7, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
  18. dugee

    I remember when christians were nice.Now they seem like a bunch of bigots who want to shove their crap down everyone's throat.If they want people to respect them, they should lead by example.

    November 7, 2012 at 3:45 pm |
  19. RL

    Obama no Christian.
    Who ever Blesses Israel will be Blessed, who ever goes against Israel will be cursed!!! Make my words OBAMA will be cursed!! Anybody notice the dead bodies attached to him!!! Look it up!!! YOU WILL GET WHAT YOU DESERVE!!! Just remember that!!!

    November 7, 2012 at 3:44 pm |
    • OOO

      Meds RL! Meds! You can't forget to take your meds!

      November 7, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
    • Moron-I

      You are a charlatan, heretic and blasphemer,I think that about covers it. MORMONS are NOT Christians despite what the Satanist Joel Osteen says.

      November 7, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
    • Moron-I

      You are obviously a Zionist.Whether you are a Jew or not..you should think about becoming one.The warmongering Israelis could use your support to help them maintain their false sense of righteousness.The Old Testament is a testimonial to their aggression,cruelty and intolerance.

      November 7, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
    • Sly

      RL, can you post this 7 or 8 more times so we can read it?

      And what is wrong with 'dead bodies'? I thought you had to be dead to get into your Heaven ... what's the deal dude?

      November 7, 2012 at 3:56 pm |
    • sam stone

      RL: Mark your words? Why?

      F off

      November 7, 2012 at 4:33 pm |
  20. David

    Please remove candidates wearing their cults, myths and science fiction on their sleeves OUT of the political process or send them to live in Iran with ilk of their kind.

    No religion is good religion!

    November 7, 2012 at 3:41 pm |
    • ForGoodOfAll

      Yes, I agree with David's statement 100%.

      November 7, 2012 at 4:00 pm |
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