By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor
Washington (CNN) – For many conservative Christian leaders, it was a nightmare scenario: Barack Obama decisively re-elected. Same-sex marriage adopted by voters in some states. Rigorously anti-abortion candidates defeated in conservative red states.
On multiple levels, Tuesday’s election results raised questions about the Christian right’s agenda on American politics, eight years after the movement helped sweep President George W. Bush into a second term and opened the era of state bans on same-sex marriage.
“For the first time tonight, same-sex marriage has been passed by popular vote in Maine and Maryland,” said Robert P. Jones, a Washington-based pollster who specializes in questions about politics and religion.
“The historic nature of these results are hard to overstate,” Jones said. “Given the strong support of younger Americans for same-sex marriage, it is unlikely this issue will reappear as a major national wedge issue.”
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Some conservative evangelical leaders echoed that line. Albert Mohler, who heads the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, said on Twitter that votes for same-sex marriage suggested that “we are witnessing a fundamental moral realignment of the country.”
A Tuesday ballot measure to legalize same-sex marriage in Washington state is still pending. In Minnesota, voters rejected a Tuesday measure that would have banned same-sex marriage there.
Thirty-eight states have banned same-sex marriage, mostly via constitutional amendments.
Obama’s victory also raised questions about the Christian right's influence in the electorate.
Though evangelical leaders as diverse as the Southern Baptist Convention’s Richard Land and Christian icon Billy Graham voiced support for Mitt Romney (Graham stopped short of an official endorsement), Obama performed better among white evangelicals than he did in 2008 in some states.
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In swing state Ohio, exit polls showed that Obama got 30% support among white evangelicals. While that’s hardly a victory, it’s better than the 27% support Obama got among those voters four years ago.
Before the election, many evangelical leaders predicted that opposition to Obama over his support for abortion rights, his personal endorsement of same-sex marriage and his vision of government as a force for good would trump reservations evangelicals had about Romney’s past social liberalism and his Mormon faith.
“There is no evidence in voting patterns that President Obama's 'evolution' on same-sex marriage cost him anything,” Mohler said in another tweet Tuesday night.
Obama also narrowly won Catholics, even after the U.S. Catholic bishops waged a rigorous campaign against the Obama administration around the issue of religious liberty. The bishops alleged Obama was forcing Catholics to violate their own teachings by making health insurance companies provide free contraception coverage for virtually all employees.
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John Green, a religion and politics expert at the University of Akron, said Obama’s win among Catholics was partly a testament to the growing Latino demographic.
“Maybe Hispanic Catholics were not as moved by religious liberty-type arguments as by immigration and economics,” he said.
Unlike in 2004, when John Kerry – a former altar boy – lost Catholic voters, the Obama campaign had a robust religious outreach program aimed largely at Catholic and evangelical voters. The effort included videos from Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, a Catholic, talking about their Christian faith.
Obama's success among some religious demographics also illustrated how economic issues, as opposed to culture war concerns, dominated the election cycle.
The defeat Tuesday of two Republican Senate candidates who made national headlines with anti-abortion remarks also raised questions about the Christian right’s power.
In Missouri, U.S. Senate candidate Todd Akin, who in August walked back his remark that "if it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down," lost his bid to unseat Sen. Claire McCaskill, a Democrat.
Akin’s campaign became a national cause for conservative Christian activists after the Republican Party abandoned the candidate and encouraged him to drop out over his abortion remark.
In Indiana, Republican Senate candidate Richard Mourdock lost his race against Democrat Joe Donnelly after saying last month that pregnancies resulting from rape are “something that God intended to happen.”
Conservative Christians did claim some victories Tuesday night, including helping the GOP retain control of the U.S. House of Representatives and helping elect tea party favorite Ted Cruz as a U.S. senator from Texas.
Ralph Reed, the leader of conservative group the Faith & Freedom Coalition, planned a Wednesday morning press conference to release his data about what he called the enduring influence of “values voters.”
“Preliminary evidence is they turned out and they voted heavily for Romney,” Reed said in an e-mail message Tuesday night.
I thought it was funny that Obama won the Catholic vote after all that talk about how Catholics need to fight for religious freedom.
Just another example of christian hypocrisy – yap in public about being oppressed and behave differently in private, much like with abortion (where 70+% of abortions in the USA are had by believers).
A FOOT HOLE IS WHERE THE MORAL MAJORITY PLACES THEIR FOOT WHEN IT'S NOT IN THEIR MOUTHS!
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Tired of religious Zealots attempting to force their views on the entire country. This is like Islam in some Arab Countries where no other religions are tolerated and you are forced to believe everything the Imam preaches as truth. Keep your God, your religious views in your home. Like our good friend would surly attest God willed Obama should win and who are we the religious right to question GOD'S will!!!!
It was Christianity that brought order to mankind and to the USA. Christianity made USA the greatest nation on earth. It will always remain in USA. Our Lord sent Jesus Christ as our savor and he died for our sins. We forget that and so our troubles start. We will soon find the right candidate and then take all 50 states in the next election. I am hopeful.
Christianity had little to do with making America great. It's all in your imagination.
like my very close deer fiend Richad Murdock would say, it is GOD'S will that Obama won so who the Hell are you to question our Lord and Saviors the great all powerful Jesus the living Christ Will? Just who, who are you, who who?
You need to read up on your history a little bit more. Much violence has happened in the name of Christianity. And now it is being used to divide our country because Christians just cannot let other people live their lives without trying to control everybody's behavior. Christianity is not what you have portrayed it to be.
If it's so Christian, why did you run a non Christian cult member?
You really are deluded.
Mitt "The Twit" was not a good candidate, but he wasn't the problem. As most pundits are now recognizing, the problem is the GOP's policies and their inability to recruit women and minorities to their brand. The GOP today is jut a bunch of grumpy old white guys who want to turn the clock back to the 1950s when women and minorities knew their place.
No Gods: Absolutely nothing wrong in turning the clock back to the 50s. It is the best time this great country had. I still miss my growing up days back then. But don't you worry we, the followers of our Lord in Heaven, will take back this country from the liberals and atheists.
Yeah, the 50's were so great. Minorities knew their place, thanks to Jesus. Women knew their place, thanks to Jesus. Gays knew their place, thanks to Jesus. We built lots of atomic bombs, thanks to Jesus. Music–except for jazz– sucked, thanks to Jesus. TV was black and white, thanks to Jesus. Vietnam began, thanks to Jesus. Richard Nixon was VP, thanks to Jesus.
There're only a couple of way the retarded religious right will return the USA to a 50s like society: with guns (as hinted at by Glenn Beck) and/or if they propogate like rabbits (to produce children they can indoctrinate into their cult because they are not attracting many new members).
You're hopeful. You're also sadly misinformed and possibly delusional. The United States was created on the principals of The Enlightenment (reason and science) with a very definite and deliberate separation from religion. Our founding fathers had the wisdom to understand that religion is the enemy of freedom.
This election has shown that the majority of Americans are not interested in the sort of theocracy that you desire. If you are not happy with the reality of the United States, I suggest you move to a nice place like Iran, where you can witness firsthand the sort of freedoms you get in a country where god is government.
Hey PO_POE how are your tear ducts holding up?
the ultra religious are just plumb nuts
you failed to say assorted nuts. I agree with you 100%!!!!
Only for new members of this blog:-–>>>>
As noted many times before the election:
Why the Christian Right no longer matters in presidential elections:
Once again, all the conservative votes in the country "ain't" going to help a "pro-life" presidential candidate, i.e Mitt Romney, in 2012 as the "Immoral Majority" rules the country and will be doing so for awhile. The "Immoral Majority" you ask?
The fastest growing USA voting bloc: In 2008, the 70+ million "Roe vs. Wade mothers and fathers" of aborted womb-babies" whose ranks grow by two million per year i.e. 78+ million "IM" voters in 2012.
And the irony:
And all because many women fail to take the Pill once a day or men fail to use a condom even though in most cases these men have them in their pockets. (maybe they should be called the "Stupid Majority"?)
The failures of the widely used birth "control" methods i.e. the Pill and male condom have led to the large rate of abortions ( one million/yr) and S-TDs (19 million/yr) in the USA. Men and women must either recognize their responsibilities by using the Pill or condoms properly and/or use other safer birth control methods in order to reduce the epidemics of abortion and S-TDs.
i.e. IF THE PILL AND MALE CONDOMS WERE USED PROPERLY, ABORTION WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE AND OBAMA WOULD NOT BE PRESIDENT.
And to appeal to the Immoral/Stupid Majority, Obama and Axelrod filled the airways with pro- Roe vs. Wade, pro-choice/abortion ads during the last two weeks of the campaign. Said ad expenditures should have been used to promulgate the Brutal Effects of Stupidity as noted previously.
Be glad that GOD has blessed us with a President who loves his fellow man & woman! Who opens this country for all individuals and allows JEHOVAH through our trials & tribulations to refine us ( not man). Man has tried through laws before and did not succeed that's when he sent us JESUS but consistently JEHOVAH has always given us free choice! FREE CHOICE FOR EVERY INDIVIDUAL IS THE VICTORY IN AMERICA TODAY! You became disillusioned as the Pharisees when you put your trust in man, pessimism and a pagan. Sorry you were misled. Study your BIBLE !
Kinard, do you have any factual, independent, verifiable and objective evidence for your assertions and beliefs, or are you mentally ill, a liar or both?
Just because your mother wasn't given the choice of aborting your sorry self don't take it out on the rest of the country. Just join Trump and his crazy ass tweet followers to Nirvana or as we like to call it here: UTAH!
The reality of se-x, abortion, contraception and STD/HIV control: – from a guy who enjoys intelligent se-x and who also an agnostic.
Note: Some words hyphenated to defeat an obvious word filter. ...
The Brutal Effects of Stupidity:
: The failures of the widely used birth "control" methods i.e. the Pill (8.7% actual failure rate) and male con-dom (17.4% actual failure rate) have led to the large rate of abortions and S-TDs in the USA. Men and women must either recognize their responsibilities by using the Pill or co-ndoms properly and/or use safer methods in order to reduce the epidemics of abortion and S-TDs.- Failure rate statistics provided by the Gut-tmacher Inst-itute. Unfortunately they do not give the statistics for doubling up i.e. using a combination of the Pill and a condom.
Added information before making your next move:
from the CDC-2006
"Se-xually transmitted diseases (STDs) remain a major public health challenge in the United States. While substantial progress has been made in preventing, diagnosing, and treating certain S-TDs in recent years, CDC estimates that approximately 19 million new infections occur each year, almost half of them among young people ages 15 to 24.1 In addition to the physical and psy-ch-ological consequences of S-TDs, these diseases also exact a tremendous economic toll. Direct medical costs as-sociated with STDs in the United States are estimated at up to $14.7 billion annually in 2006 dollars."
Consumer Reports, January, 2012
"Yes, or-al se-x is se-x, and it can boost cancer risk-
Here's a crucial message for teens (and all se-xually active "post-teeners": Or-al se-x carries many of the same risks as va-ginal se-x, including human papilloma virus, or HPV. And HPV may now be overtaking tobacco as the leading cause of or-al cancers in America in people under age 50.
"Adolescents don’t think or-al se-x is something to worry about," said Bonnie Halpern-Felsher professor of pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisco. "They view it as a way to have intimacy without having 's-ex.'" (It should be called the Bill Clinton Syndrome !!)
Obviously, political leaders in both parties, Planned Parenthood, parents, the "stupid part of the USA" and the educational system have failed miserably on many fronts.
The most effective forms of contraception, ranked by "Perfect use":
– (Abstinence, 0% failure rate)
– (Masturbation, mono or mutual, 0% failure rate)
One-month injectable and Implant (both at 0.05 percent)
Vasectomy and IUD (Mirena) (both at 0.1 percent)
The Pill, Three-month injectable, and the Patch (all at 0.3 percent)
Tubal sterilization (at 0.5 percent)
IUD (Copper-T) (0.6 percent)
Periodic abstinence (Post-ovulation) (1.0 percent)
Periodic abstinence (Symptothermal) and Male condom (both at 2.0 percent)
Periodic abstinence (Ovulation method) (3.0 percent)
Every other method ranks below these, including Withdrawal (4.0), Female condom (5.0), Diaphragm (6.0), Periodic abstinence (calendar) (9.0), the Sponge (9.0-20.0, depending on whether the woman using it has had a child in the past), Cervical cap (9.0-26.0, with the same caveat as the Sponge), and Spermicides (18.0).
change will come to America, just like in Europa.
religion will become unimportant, people will lose interest in the fairy tale that
is the bible, and places of worship will empty.
God cannot win against time nor logic.
God doesn't even exist, so it's basically a forfeit.
There are some changes in Europe we can do without, or haven't you seen the news about Greece?
Who said anything about God racing to win against the hands of time. Your understanding of logic is just a tiny star in his vast universe.
Sometimes Love moves fast, sometimes slow. "One day with the lord is a thousand years".
Were not anywhere close to thinking on his level.
Is America better now than lets say 50 years ago..... Christians losing foot holes in government will not make the country better... the leaders we elect will have that job. How is gay marriage on the front burner of this country that is owned by China
What's a "foot hole"?
Foot hole = the space left after a believer pulls their head out of their ass.
A "foot hole" is what the voters put into the GOP's butt last night.
Separate religion and government completely.
I don't care in you want to handle six king cobras: don't bring them to the courthouse.
Leave your dangerous thinking in the church where you and your buddies can play with it together.
Christianity isn't going anywhere. Those claiming it's irrelevant or outdated will hit the dirt, while the word will continue being passed onward.
Have faith in the people around you, try to understand and love one another; and pray one day humanity will one day be able to treat each other as family.
You're right, Christianity isn't going anywhere, but Right Wing, judgmental bigots who call themselves Christians are.
All delusions will perish in the face of the vastness of time. Tic toc tic.
We don't care where it goes, as long as it stays out of our government.
So long fundamentalist christianity!!!! Good riddance.
Long live the reign of facts, science, thoughtful reasoning and all things rational.
Let's hope so.
don't go away mad, christians - just go away. wooohoo!!!
You've got a long wait for those things to reign. All you can hope for is a swing toward moderation in Christianity generally because they aren't disappearing completely anytime soon.
We should not let this setback deter us. We have righteousness on our side. We must fight on for the sake of this once-great nation. Just as the Phoenix rose from the ashes, so shall this nation rise again!
Setback? This is no setback! It's a giant step forward. Let's keep it up.
You sound like a German politician right after WWII.
Welcome to the Ice Age, dinosaur.
Sending a message to the white Babble Belt believers last night was a step towards the USA moving forward into the 21st century. A resurgence of the delusional religious right would be a major step backwards – just like introducing astrology into government would be.
You don't have righteousness on your side, you have bigotry and hypocrisy on your side.
Love the Pagan reference about the Phoenix rising to describe the resurrection of a "Christian" nation
Phoenix? Since when do Christians believe in middle eastern mythology?
Just as the phoenix rose . . . okay, it's only fiction, but just as Jesus rose . . . no, that's fiction too, well, anyway, the fictional Christian nation of Ameristan will rise like the Jesus Zombie Bird in the fictional future to create a fictional dystopia.
And Jesus lived happily ever after. The End. Amen. Zippidy-doo-dah.
Now the Christiian right has ended up with Jesus having a human father. Thanks to Rev. Billy Graham & team, believing that heavenly father has flesh & blood is not a cult anymore!!!! Sellng Jesus for money!!!!
Jesus did have a human father, Joseph, or some Roman soldier, if the rumors are true.
The reason for Obama win is because of the hypocrisy of American preachers. God wants to show the hypocritical preachers that what ever they can do they can't change the will of God.God wants Obama to stay and he got another chance.I don't agree with Obama's stand on gay marriage and abortion, but that is not Americas main problem.All these preachers are racists.
Racists do not succeed they will always fail.
Obama won because he convinced more people to vote for him, and they actually got off their a$$es, waited in the long lines, and did it. The Republican base just wasn't motivated enough to sacrifice their time in line. Probably too overweight and out of shape to make the effort. Half the people at a tea party rally get around on electric chairs, and few of them look like they're suffering from anything but a lack of will power when it comes to junk food. Lazy, pure and simple.
John Hagee said vote for a candidate who supports Israel. Just portraying that Obama is anti Israel.
Robert Jefrees said a Mormonism is a cult when defending Rick Perry.When Perry lost the candidacy he said "I will hold my nose and vote for Romney" Which is Hypocrisy.
Billy Graham once called Mormonism a cult in his website.. And when Romney paid a visit to his residence he took out Mormonism as cult from his website.
The Swaggarts said Obama as "a murderer" and said no single word about Romney.That is Hypocrisy. Is that what Christianity is all about ? PITY. I feel sorry for American preachers.
Jeffress used to be a preacher at a church here... the man would sell his own mother for a quick buck. He's far more suited to being a sleazy used car salesman than a religious leader! Oh, and btw, he abandoned his church here for the one he currently preaches at in Dallas so that he could get a bigger paycheck and more exposure. Jesus is the last thing on that man's mind!
Put me in the camp of I hope so. I was raised that my religious beliefs are mine and mine alone, and my right to practice as it applies to other people ends exactly at the tip of my nose. Yes many of the founding fathers were Christian and many of our laws are based on certain biblical passages, but a lot of them were pretty basic but good ideas, "if it's not yours don't take it." "Don't murder". I just hope people realize that separation of church and state isn't just good for Agnostics, Muslims, Hindus, Atheists, Hebrews, and everyone else, but between all the difference sects that identify as Christian. The Morman is a cult back lash Romney got proves that, and the number of times I've been told I'm not a christian because I wasn't a Protestant off shoot. So if the evangelicals actually got what they wanted how long before the Baptists would turn on the Anglicans or Lutherans.
If you look at those " certain biblical passages" you'll discover that most are pretty common to ancient law codes of the time. There isn't much original in the bible.
you ARE off !
Many of the founding fathers were NOT christians. They were deists.
they believed that SOME being created the world and left it for us to take care of it.
And that Being was not the christian god.
read some history for a change instead of the bible.
Not Christians, that's wishful thinking on behalf of those who want one religion, one country. Founding Fathers were deists, and referred to the god of nature. They saw religion as a shackle of the human mind that left no room for growth, exploration, and education.
In America I don't know why Republicans are considered to be Christians. They are racists. You can't be a christian if you are a racist. They tried all they can do and the only thing they are short of saying is "Do not vote for a black president". They are the ones who are dividing America.They are all hypocrites.There are evangelicals who are practicing Sodomy like Ted Haggar who has been caught years ago. All of them are like that.
Most people NOW wouldn't consider a racist a likely Christian, but go back half a century and things would be completely different. Even a figure like Helen Keller was actually quite racist, especially against orientals. Sad, but true.
Ironic that fundamentalist Christians insist on dividing the nation with wedge issues that have lead to gridlocked, ineffective politics. I personally don't support abortion either, but putting it above all the other needs ... such as people who are out of work (and have been for a far longer time than anyone should ever experience) is beyond foolish and stubborn... ignoring those in need is not what Christ would have done.
I don't get it, if they don't like living in a secular country why don't they leave?
It takes more than sceaming Jesus' name every 5 minutes to make one a Christian. you kinda have to try to live and act the way He tried to teach us was the right way. hating a good man who's done nothing but try to help the country out of a horrible mess and spreading lies about him is pretty much the opposite of how these people's 'savior' said they should act. i haven't seen anything the 'right' is actually right about. If Jesus was around today, He'd be a Democrat. He was a Liberal. if He was running for office today, the 'christian right' would treat Him exactly the same as they treated Obama in this horrendous campaign. and no, i'm not saying Obama and Jesus are equal, i'm saying Obama's policies and ideas are much more in line with Jesus' teachings than anything the 'right' spews!
They'd demand to see his birth certificate...
Liz the Firstq,
From your posty toasty I can say that you are a Republican?
I may be bragging, but if sceaming Jesus' name made one a Christian, my wife would be Pope! ;-)
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