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My Take: What all those Jesus jokes tell us
The authors note that Jesus jokes have become popular just since the 1970s.
November 10th, 2012
10:00 PM ET

My Take: What all those Jesus jokes tell us

Editor’s note: Edward J. Blum is a historian of race and religion at San Diego State University. Paul Harvey is a history professor at the University of Colorado at Colorado Springs and runs the blog Religion in AmericanHistory. They co-authored “The Color of Christ: The Son of God and the Saga of Race in America.”

By Edward J. Blum and Paul Harvey, Special to CNN

Did you ever hear the one about Jesus being Mexican? Well, he was bilingual; he was constantly harassed by the government; and his first name was Jesus.

Or, perhaps Jesus was Irish? He loved a good story; he never kept a steady job; and his last request was for a drink.

Or maybe it’s possible that Jesus was Californian? He never cut his hair; he was always walking around barefoot; and he started a new religion.

You may not have heard these Jesus jokes, but you’ve heard others. They represent a comedic trend that has animated the United States since the 1970s. More and more comedy gimmicks hit on Jesus, his ethnicity and his relationship to politics. Laughing with (and at) the Lord is now fodder for major motion pictures, barroom comedy tours, graphic novels, t-shirts and bumper stickers.

How is it that a figure sacred to so many Americans has become the punch line of so many jokes? And why is it acceptable to poke fun at Jesus when other sacred figures are deemed off limits or there is hell to pay for mocking them?

The explanations are as numerous as the laughs.

Immigration shifts from the 1960s changed the ethnic and religious faces of the country so no tradition dominates today. The Christian right made such a moral spectacle of itself that it practically begged to be mocked. The emergence of “spiritual, but not religious” sensibilities left many Americans willing to denounce or laugh about traditional faith. The public rise of agnosticism, atheism, and secularism led to aggressive mockery as a form of persuasion.

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If we pause to consider why we’re laughing, we find that the comic bits delve into some of our thorniest and unresolved problems. The jokes reveal much more about us than they do Jesus. They speak to how our society has changed, how it hasn’t, and what we’re obsessed with.

The first public jokes about Jesus were heard in the 1970s. There had been religious jokes before this, but none about Jesus had become widely popular because organized Christianity held such authority. As the economic recession and problems of urban decay collided with civil rights exhaustion and new immigration, however, some Jesus jokes emerged.

Archie Bunker on “All in the Family” was the white racist and misogynist you loved to hate and hated to love. On one occasion, his son-in-law challenged Bunker’s rampant anti-Semitism with the claim, "Jesus was Jewish." Archie shot back immediately: "Only on his mother's side."

The “All in the Family” spin off “Good Times” featured a black family that lives in an inner-city housing project, probably Chicago's infamous Cabrini Green. On the show's second episode, the oldest son J. J. astounded everyone by painting Jesus as black. The younger son loves it, and says he learned all about Christ’s blackness from the local Nation of Islam.

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As the family debates whether this black Jesus should be hung on the wall in place of their white Jesus, they “miraculously” receive $140 from the Internal Revenue Service. Feeling blessed, the family placed the painting on its living room wall, and the elated J. J. shouted his tagline, "Dyno-mite!”

From the 1980s to the present, the number of prominent Jesus jokes has multiplied like loaves and fishes:

• In “Talladega Nights,” Ricky Bobby and his family debated which Jesus to pray to (“baby Jesus in golden fleece diapers,” “grown-up Jesus,” “ninja Jesus”). Their overall hope is that Jesus will help them continue their extravagant lifestyle.

• “South Park” featured Jesus as a weak-kneed host of a local talk show who boxes the devil.

• “Family Guy” had Jesus perform magic tricks that wowed his ancient audience.

• “The Colbert Report” placed a gun in Christ’s hand and had him defend conservatives against the liberal “War on Easter.”

• “Saturday Night Live” let Jesus chastise Tim Tebow for using the Lord’s name in vain and ended the bit by declaring that the Mormons have it right.

One unforgettable scene in the rather forgettable recent film “21 Jump Street” may explain why Jesus has become such a joke.

Before Jonah Hill’s character returns to high school as an undercover cop, he prays to a small, crucified “Korean Jesus.” Down on his knees, he says: “Hey Korean Jesus, I don’t know if you only cater to Korean Christians or if you even exist, no offense. I’m just really freaked out about going back to high school. It was just so f***ing hard the first time. … I just really don’t want to f*** this up. Sorry for swearing so much. The end? I don’t really know how to end the prayer.”

The hilarity of the moment only makes sense in our time. Hill's character is unchurched and agnostic, but wants spiritual power to guide him. We can laugh at how agnosticism and being “spiritual, but not religious,” leave him uncertain of what to say, how to say it, and even how to end.

We can also laugh at how ethnic factors color his approach. By wondering if Korean Jesus cares only about Korean problems, Hill pokes fun at the issue which was made a media spectacle in 2008, when the Rev. Jeremiah Wright could be heard preaching that “Jesus was a poor black man” as part of his support for Barack Obama. What good is a God who only cares for those who look like him?

The Jesus jokes not only reveal how tangled our religious, racial, economic and political positions have become, but also how many outlets there are for the jokes. In these tense times, when presidential hopefuls point fingers at one another and families unfriend one another over political and cultural differences, laughing may be one way to talk about the problems without killing one another.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Edward J. Blum and Paul Harvey.

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Filed under: Christianity • Entertainment • Jesus • Opinion

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  1. Ken Colwell

    Psalm 109:2
    For wicked and deceitful mouths are opened against me, speaking against me with lying tongues.

    November 11, 2012 at 12:41 pm |
  2. Bootyfunk

    jesus christ walks into an inn.
    he hands the innkeeper 3 nails and asks,
    "can you put me up for the night?"

    November 11, 2012 at 12:41 pm |
  3. Ken Colwell

    Ephesians 5:4
    Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving.

    November 11, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
    • svann

      It would be wrong of you to interpret an admonition against filthy jokes to mean that all jokes are forbidden.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:41 pm |
  4. Philosopher Joe

    You forgot to add that one reason for the Jesus jokes is that some atheists, agnostics, spiritualists, and non-Christians are absolutely sick and tired of many contemporary Christians, who have taken the beauty of faith and turned it in to arrogant "knowledge" and who look down at everyone who does not share their beliefs yet are constantly complaining about the disrespect they receive.

    November 11, 2012 at 12:37 pm |
    • Richard Mavers

      Read your comment and see if you notice any irony.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:41 pm |
    • God's Oldest Dreamer

      Philosopher Joe,

      I wouldn't go a far as saying Christians are 'contemporary'. They are 'fundamentally' flawed and cannot understand such 'literal' Truth as, John 18:36 Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world".

      They do tend to overlook such a literal truth foresaking to become parrots always bawking and crowing what their elders have taught them to so be their clones.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
  5. Reality

    In case you missed this on p. 6:

    Now, now, now, let us be fair as we bring equal time to Mohammed at the risk of having CNN's headquarters blown up:

    "Yo Mohammed so stupid, I told him to makeup his mind and he put lipstick on his forehead.

    Yo Mohammed so cross-eyed he threw a bolt of lightning at the Earth and missed.

    Yo Mohammed so poor he eats cereal with a fork to save milk.

    Yo Mohammed so ugly cartoonists are afraid to draw him."

    A terrorist blows himself up and goes up to Heaven where he sees St. Peter at the Pearly Gates and says, “Are you Mohammed?”

    St. Peter says. “No, he’s further up.”

    He walks up further and sees Jesus. “Are you Mohammed?”

    Jesus says, “No, he’s further up…”

    Walks on further and sees God with a big beard. “You must be Mohammed!”

    “No,” says God, “I’m God, take a seat. Would you like tea?”

    The terrorist sits down and says, “Yes, please, I’d love some tea.”

    God calls out loudly “Mohammed! Two teas now and make it quick!”

    November 11, 2012 at 12:36 pm |
  6. Bemused

    Did you hear the one that Jesus is a Republican? He cares for and identifies with the sick, the afflicted, the poor, and chastises greed and a proud spirit at every opportunity... oh wait...

    November 11, 2012 at 12:36 pm |
  7. HoneyBooBoo

    Sometimes I think "WWJD?"

    Then I remember that he got himself crucified, so his decision making skills probably weren't all that great.

    November 11, 2012 at 12:31 pm |
    • God's Oldest Dreamer

      Forced concentration was Christ's downplaying of the game where Life ends and true living does begin.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:38 pm |
  8. anonymousperson12

    Jesus's true name was Jmmanuel. He was the son of a god and an earth human named Mary. A god is an extra terrestrial human being who is vastly more conscious than an earth human, and neither one created the universe. Extraterrestrials have been monitoring and guiding earth human evolution for millions of years. Jmmanuel did not die on the cross but was in a near-death state and secretly healed by Hindu healers upon removal from the cross. Afterwards, Jmmanuel and his mother Mary escaped to India along with his loyal apostle Judas Iscariot. Mother Mary was buried in Pakistan where her tomb remains today.

    November 11, 2012 at 12:27 pm |
    • God's Oldest Dreamer

      anonymousperson12,

      You must be as a Mormonite, yes? No? Me? I'm am a lowly innerspace theologian who craves to go back to my material roots.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:33 pm |
    • End Religion

      @OP: was that an episode from the original Twilight Zone series?

      November 11, 2012 at 12:58 pm |
  9. Toad

    The great jazz guitarist Pat Metheny named an album after the punch line of a Jesus joke: "I Can See Your House From Here."

    A prog-rock band named Camel had already used the name for one of their albums, though, so Metheny either stole the idea or it's a remarkable coincidence.

    November 11, 2012 at 12:24 pm |
    • pima

      Pat M. rules.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:29 pm |
    • Toad

      Yes, Pat Metheny does rule. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAYt3a-c_k0

      November 11, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
  10. God's Oldest Dreamer

    A scattering is upon us in these trying days and Age. Leave your wantings behind and never take wind of one's longings for the weightiness of one's longings will smite even the most influential. Carry away nothing and leave. Head to the places inside one's being and do not keep ajar your door for many will want to enter in and should not. Your loving this Life is for the world to have and you should not heed the rumors from others as to just what is truly right. It is therefore best for mankind to simmer in their juvenile pottages never rationalizingly 'assaying' one's diffuse detriments, the very smallest of life's grains. As smitten breeds, our splendors reveal one's characters to be traitorous to one's analogous fold. Where then does Life end and living begin?

    Who before this day's Age is found worthy of Goodly praises? Who after us will find peace set before them? Who in today;s timeline is this "son of man" that many should fear him for his worthiness stance? Who above can see the below? Who that is below can see what be above? From the very smallest crevice to the most high chasms, the Sea of Nothingness is the Holy Spirit. May the elemental Gods find favor in this found son of man that he may not be afflicted with this world's power but rather he should carry upon him the angst from his manhood till his natural death.

    November 11, 2012 at 12:24 pm |
    • Eliminate hinduism, Atheism, Secular ism. way of animals, not human.

      absurdity of an Old, goon, Dreamer, absurd.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:28 pm |
    • God's Oldest Dreamer

      'E" :-(

      why doeth thou persecute my word so and name me to be other than what I am?

      November 11, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
    • pima

      Yes – the mind's capability for dreaming is interesting. Have you been checked for sleep apnea, dreamer? If it's severe, one can easily confuse sleep with reality.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:32 pm |
    • God's Oldest Dreamer

      pima,

      I sleep rather well thank you very much pima for showing your rudimentary concern for my well being. :-)

      November 11, 2012 at 12:36 pm |
    • Bet

      I tried a little experiment:

      Death natural his till manhood his from angst the him upon carry should he rather but power world’s this with afflicted be not may he that man of son found this in favor find gods elemental the may. Spirit holy the is nothingness of sea the, chasms high most the to crevice smallest very the from. Above be what see can below is that who? Below the see can above who? Stance worthiness his for him fear should many that “man of son” this is timeline today’s in who? Them before set peace find will us after who? Praises goodly of worthy found is age day’s this before who?

      Begin living and end life does then where? Fold analogous one’s to traitorous be to characters one’s reveal splendors our, breeds smitten as? Grains life’s of smallest very the, detriments diffuse one’s ‘assaying’ rationalizingly never pottages juvenile their in simmer to mankind for best therefore is it. Right truly is what just to as others from rumors the heed not should you and have to world the for is life this loving your. Not should and in enter to want will many for door your ajar keep not do and being one’s inside places the to head. Leave and nothing carry away. Influential most the even smite will longings one’s of weightiness the for longings one’s of wind take never and behind wantings your leave. Age and days trying these in us upon is scattering a.

      It actually makes as much sense backwards as forwards. That is, no sense at all.

      November 11, 2012 at 1:01 pm |
    • Keeping It Real

      Bet,

      Hilarious!

      (But now he might strut because he has "tongues of gift a")

      November 11, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
  11. WeWereOnTheMoon

    Jesus was just another Jewish guy who helped society to move forward in its development.Humor by the way is a sign of intelligence, Jews by the way have an unlimited amount of jokes about god.

    November 11, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
    • svann

      Seriously, lets hear some. Actual jokes, not just snide remarks please. As Im sure you intended, but not often seen in this blog.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:26 pm |
    • Quinthius

      How many "just another Jewish guys" do you see fulfilling prophecy, performing miracles by God's authority, forgiving sins by God's authority, preaching the Gospel, claiming and confirming his oneness with the Father, and rising from the dead to prove his authority over life and death and to assure us that by that same power we too will be bodily resurrected?

      November 11, 2012 at 1:00 pm |
  12. Psion 3-K

    Prayer isn't meant to get you ANYTHING in physical life. It's meant to bring you an eternal comfort that the material world will never be able to give you. If you take it as a meditative practice, you will find that nothing you encounter in life will ever make you afraid ever again and you become kind of like a Jedi in the Star Wars films... able to stare down the barrel of a loaded gun and not flinch for anything. I've been there a couple times in my life, in fact, so I know it for certain.

    You want material crap? Use the Law of Attraction and forget about god. But in the end you will die a very unsatisfied man, just like many before who went to their death beds, the last word out of their mouths being something along the lines of "even though I have all the riches in the world, I couldn't possibly die a more unsatisfied person..."

    November 11, 2012 at 12:18 pm |
    • ends here

      I understand there are drugs that achieve the same..

      November 11, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
    • Psion 3-K

      This is in response to all the people further down the page who think that prayer does nothing. They're right, it doesn't give you what you want. It gives you only what you need... Supreme perseverance and nothing else.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
    • MagicPanties

      My invisible pink unicorn is praying that you get some common sense before you die.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
    • Psion 3-K

      @ends here

      Yeah, but what do drugs do to a person overtime? They destroy you. The point about prayer is that it doesn't give you a physical high when it's taken as a meditative practice. It gives you the ability to know well... everything, in fact. Some people will never believe this or even begin to try to believe this... others know precisely what I speak of. But whatever and whatnot...

      November 11, 2012 at 12:24 pm |
    • Catholic Soldier

      why don't you try "real" prayer and see what happens..

      November 11, 2012 at 12:27 pm |
    • Toad

      In reply to Psion 3-K: You have a very solid understanding of prayer, but your faith in the "Law of Attraction" and your claim to knowledge of what all drugs do to all people make you seem like you carry around a little mainstream dogma yourself.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:27 pm |
    • Psion 3-K

      @magic panties

      Part of the problem till the end, huh? I hope you get it right the next time you repeat your exact same life over again... There's a limited amount of energy in the universe... Law of Conservation of Mass and Energy: energy cannot be created, nor destroyed only transferred. Since your self-awareness is FAILING EPICALLY you will sooner than you realize be starting over as baby on day one of the same life you have lived. Therefore that self aware energy you have contained within your body will, over the course of 6 more attempts, in fact be purified, but you will not be remembered.

      If energy could be destroyed, or contained in the sense of eternal damnation, it would cause a catastrophic overload of the entire universe, destroying the entire thing in the process. A baseball cannot exceed the light speed barrier for this reason, because in the words of Einstein (your god no doubt) an object traveling at FTL speeds would obtain unlimited mass and energy, creating a catastrophic breakdown of everything in the process.

      There. Putting it scientifically. I hope you're satisfied.

      There is no eternal damnation, a place of eternal torture for those who do wrong. It violates the laws of physics, in fact. But you know what? There is such a thing as eternal ignorance and outright stupidity. Also, 42.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:34 pm |
    • Kirk

      Catholic Soldier
      I've tried "real" prayer and nothing much happens. Nothing more than if I didn't pray at all in the first place, and I suspect the same is true for everyone.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
    • Catholic Soldier

      At Kirk– sadly and impossible for us humans to understand in times of genuine need for assistance, sometimes the answer to our prayer is "no". why? i'll give you my best theological answer: "I don't know". But perhaps it's ordained for a greater good we're not privy to learning about now..

      November 11, 2012 at 12:43 pm |
    • Kirk

      Catholic Soldier
      Ah, the old "God answers in Yes, No, or Later" response? Have you ever considered that these are the only three possible outcomes? I could "pray" to my toaster and either my prayer will come true, it will not, or it will eventually come true. Oh, great and powerful is my toaster!

      The answer to "No" is that there isn't anything bending the laws of nature in my favor, and why should there be? If God "helps" some people along that just messes up free will, doesn't it? True free will would be God just watching what people do, and not getting involved and changing the options, sparing certain people the harshness that random life throws their way. Like a scientist, God could not interfere with what he's studying and, eventually, judging otherwise he's mucking with people's natural behavior.

      Funny, but when scientists or skeptics reply "I don't know" when asked what the meaning, or cause of something is we get criticized for it by believers who just KNOW that the answer is God. Bit of a double standard there, eh?

      November 11, 2012 at 12:58 pm |
    • End Religion

      lol, more fruitcakes claiming they know the only truth. This makes Psion's Truth # 837,284,501,303

      November 11, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
    • Catholic Soldier

      Kirk– with all due respect, if you pray to God like you do a toaster– what results do you expect?

      November 11, 2012 at 9:11 pm |
  13. Jane

    Another example of CNN's hypocritical beliefs. Its ok to make fun of Christianity and if Christians protest, we need to "lighten up." CNN would never write such an article on Mohammed jokes, only because they are afraid of Muslim reaction. They know Christians would never riot or kill people in response. Basically, CNN is a whimpy bully, only picking on those they know will not fight back. Christians know that vengence is the Lord's and He will repay. God can defend himself, we dont have to nor should we.

    November 11, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
    • ends here

      however religions need to quit leaching off society. No more grands and pay taxes, property too. It is morally wrong for religions to steal from the rest of us.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
    • svann

      There is such a thing as "picking your battles". This means the battles you have some hope of winning. At the moment there is hope of getting christians to lighten up. Maybe in 10 years the same could happen for the Muslim world.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:23 pm |
    • Catholic Soldier

      ends here– that's a whole different conversation comparing the church of the earth with the divine church not of this earth. The former is human based, and prone to human mistakes (and obviously very severe ones which us catholics also abhor). The latter is without imperfections.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:26 pm |
    • Mickey1313

      Christians murdered anyone who wasn't part of there church for the majority of the past 2 thousand years. It is about time for then to pay the piper

      November 11, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
    • Kirk

      Are there any actual funny Muhammad jokes, or just snide remarks about his supposed love of goats, and such? Come on, we're sharing here. Tell us a funny one about Muhammad?

      November 11, 2012 at 12:41 pm |
    • Catholic Soldier

      Yes- Christians are imperfect. And our past pope apologized for the CRusades. But for the past 2000 years the Catholic religion has helped more poor people than any country, organization, religion ever in this world (not the story you see on CNN though). THe Peace Corps for instance, were modeled by JFK after Catholic Missions.

      I'm outta here– god bless you all....

      November 11, 2012 at 12:58 pm |
    • End Religion

      Jane, if god is so awesome and can defend himself why are you here defending him? Maybe its god's will that there be plenty of jokes about him because he has a sense of humour? Maybe you're judging others when you shouldn't be, because if god loves jokes about himself perhaps he will be upset with you for being so humourless.

      November 11, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
  14. Catholic Soldier

    Quite the athiest column here this am when all the Christians are at service. For the bible quoters– the bible needs to be read in it's totality, not in just little fragements. IN the new testament JC embraces/forgives adulterers rather than putting them to death. As a Catholic, I respect your theology of athesiem and don't make vituperative comments– so why do you all do it to us? and why does CNN have anti-chrisian articles every sunday morning? How would each of you who spit at our faith feel if I begrudged your child, spouse, parent etc with hostile and agressive comments? That's what you do to us– so, please consider being considerate as you site spinning webs of hatred in your homes with venomous comments about our Faith.

    November 11, 2012 at 12:13 pm |
    • De

      Duuuuuhhhh, welcome to the Internet

      November 11, 2012 at 12:16 pm |
    • Catholic Soldier

      That's the problem with the internet– relations without a relationship which gives people the misconception they can have double personalities and say cruel things.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
    • God's Oldest Dreamer

      Cath Sold, "the bible needs to be read in it's totality,"

      'Totalitarianism' was never my strong suit C.S. Who among us can honestly say we are "totalitarianzed"?

      November 11, 2012 at 12:19 pm |
    • TheyNotHim

      As soon as your organization stops tring to tell the rest of us how to live our lives, stops tying to deprive whole segments of our community of their basic human righs to love and marry whom they choose, and stops trying to convince an intelligent public that your fairy tales are more than just stories designed to suppress a free thinking public, then we will stop having to stand up to you.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:26 pm |
    • Catholic Soldier

      Are there fanatical catholics who say things I don't agree with– YES. Is there such a difference as a liberal vs. conservative Catholic– YES. Do I sometimes get fed up with the extremes– YES. Does the mageserium of our church act fanatical for the right wing– NO. There are many misconceptions out there– Don't believe me– Look at some catholics like JFK or Joe Biden.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:33 pm |
    • De

      Where are these anti-Christian articles you speak of? This article? Written by followers? And this verbal barrage of 'hostility' you speak of? You mean people poking fun? Cracking jokes? Pointing out literal flaws and false truths of your religion? It upsets you because you'd rather live in ignorant bliss? Read history, religion has been more than not, on the bloody side of the sword, and your 'respect' of others. Holding on high your factually unsubstantiated holy belief in god in the face of a few hecklers is no different than you scoffing at a modern day man claiming to be a prophet of The Lord.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:34 pm |
    • Catholic Soldier

      Ignorant bliss, no way. Having a fundamental respect for each other– Yes.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:38 pm |
    • JJ

      A member orf a pedophile infested cult who continues to support and make excuses for his child raping priests should just shut the fuck up.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:43 pm |
    • Kirk

      Catholic Soldier
      I have read the complete bible, and a lot of other atheists have also. That's why we're atheists. It's the believers who cherry pick quotes that support their prejudices while ignoring the contradictory quotes that show a more liberal faith. You prefer what Jesus said and did to what the rest of the bible says, eh? Not only does that go against what you said above regarding consideration of the WHOLE bible, but Jesus never said one thing specifically against gays, fir example, yet Catholics condemn them. How does that work?

      November 11, 2012 at 12:47 pm |
    • Catholic Soldier

      Don't underestimate the anger, frustration, and feeling of disenfranchisement by us Catholics– who are the first ones who have a right to be angy and mad at what happened. And above our laity being #@*#ed off, our GOOD PRIESTS have a ten fold right to be angry because now the public looks at every one of them as a Fr. Sandusky if they're with a kid. You all outside our church have no right to be @#$@ed off as much as all of us. But here's the real deal– the church of the world is imperfect and I accept that, and, as a fighting catholic I try to correct our church on earth. BUT, the divine church (not of this world) doesn't even catch a cold and is without flaw!

      November 11, 2012 at 12:48 pm |
    • Catholic Soldier

      reading the bible is a process– the english versions aren't perfectly translated, there's certain other prerequisites to reading it with magisterial understanding. Even I, a baptized and faithful catholic can't accurately read the bible. Cherry picking verses can justify murder– and I agree that many of the faith are guilty of misinterpreting scripture.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
    • Catholic Soldier

      I'm off to coach Hockey– God bless you all!

      November 11, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
    • Kirk

      Catholic Soldier
      Aren't we so far removed from from the language and culture of the bible to ever really understand it the way those people did? If so, then we're just applying basic principles they way we think they ought to be applied, according to our modern society. Cherry picking verses has justified murder, slavery, and bans against interracial marriage, and now – same se x marriage, not that marriage is a wholly religious thing anyway, or should be regulated by religious opinion.

      Good on ya for coaching. Plenty of evangelicals would call you a sinner for "working" like that on Sunday. Same bible, same degree of Christian certainhood, different results. Funny how that works.

      November 11, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
    • End Religion

      @CS: "As a Catholic, I respect your theology of athesiem"

      Repeating that atheism is a religion doesn't make it true. Atheism answers 'no' to the one question, "do you believe in any gods?" It is not a set or system of beliefs.

      ***
      "vituperative"

      Nice, I appreciate it.

      ***
      "so why do you all do it to us?"

      Religion is responsible for a massive amount of the world's problems. It deserves derision, plain and simple. It is dying for good reason.

      ***
      "How would each of you who spit at our faith feel if I begrudged your child, spouse, parent etc with hostile and agressive comments?"

      It's a shame you don't see the difference between berating one's family and berating an imaginary creature but that's your lot in life to not treasure what you have in the present.

      ***
      "That's what you do to us– so, please consider being considerate as you site spinning webs of hatred in your homes with venomous comments about our Faith."

      Religion should be treated with ridicule, hatred and contempt, and I claim that right.
      @4:10
      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY8fjFKAC5k&w=640&h=390]

      November 11, 2012 at 1:29 pm |
  15. svann

    I think the Lord has a sense of humor. So here's one:

    Dan the preacher had just passed on. He arrived at the pearly gates and got in line. Ahead of him was Mac the cab driver. As Mac got to the front of the line St Peter said to him "Welcome to Heaven. What is your name, and what did you do in life"? Mac said "My name is Mac, and I drove a cab in New York". St Peter gave him a beautiful silk robe and a golden staff and said "Go right in. Welcome to Heaven and enjoy eternity in the presence of our Lord"! So then Dan excitedly stepped up and told St Peter "My name is Dan, and I was a preacher". St Peter gave him a plain cotton robe and wooden staff and said "Welcome to Heaven, Dan. Go right in and praise God". Dan made a confused face and asked "I dont mean to be ungrateful and all, but Im wondering why Mac got such a beautiful robe and staff and mine are so plain"? St Peter told him "While its true that you arrive in Heaven by the grace of God, we do also account for your deeds on earth. While you were preaching, people slept. But while Mac was driving – people PRAYED".

    November 11, 2012 at 12:11 pm |
    • Decisions Decisions

      What do you know, another interpretation of the mind and will of god. Who's next?

      November 11, 2012 at 12:13 pm |
    • svann

      Well I used to drive cab, so I think Im allowed to tell cabby jokes.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
    • Bet

      If god exists, it probably has a better sense of humor than Decisions Decisions.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:32 pm |
    • Kitty

      If God exists, the mistake of your existence keeps him up at night

      November 11, 2012 at 12:36 pm |
    • Bet

      But, Kitty, god doesn't make mistakes, or so I've been told.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:56 pm |
  16. Sigideba

    Im 33 now. I was raised Christian but fell in love w/ science in my early teens. Turned awy from the chruch and have considered myself atheist for over 20 years.

    I do not mock religion. My wife goes to church. Unfortunately, as per Richard Dawkins, ridicule is the only way to change religious persons mind. This is why atheist ridicule so much. It is very unfortunate. All the Dawkinites take it upon themselves to ridicule for that very reason. It makes me a sad atheist.

    November 11, 2012 at 12:09 pm |
    • John P. Tarver

      To understand Relativity and Quantum Mechanics is to discover God in his natural form.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:11 pm |
    • ends here

      however I do not want to pay for religion. Religion's costs are taken out of my paycheck and I have to pay their share of property tax. They are leaches.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:12 pm |
    • ends here

      OJ, John.. That's why we need to keep religion away from kids. Thanks for an excellent example.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:13 pm |
    • svann

      Has ridicule actually had results, or is this something you take on faith?

      November 11, 2012 at 12:13 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Ridiculous ideas deserve ridicule. Beliefs should stand or fall on their own merits, the idea that religious beliefs should get automatic respect is arguing for 'special pleading', do you give other non-religious beliefs automatic respect?

      November 11, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
    • John P. Tarver

      svann-The ridicule of Christians once excited anal retentive science teachers greatly and I suspect many of the Athiests here get a similar high from their ignorance.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
    • pima

      JPT: "To understand Relativity and Quantum Mechanics is to discover God in his natural form."

      Now that's a joke. LOL.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:22 pm |
    • Call me Bwana

      John Tarver: you mean God is naked?

      November 11, 2012 at 12:23 pm |
    • John P. Tarver

      Bwana-I would not expect there to be any physical form outside the universe. Man is like God in that we are self aware, original sin.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:26 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      John,

      The fact that other people does not accept your unfounded beliefs does not make them ignorant.

      Original sin is an immoral concept.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:32 pm |
    • pima

      Again, JPT, your assertion about external agent has failed. We know nothing about the nature of what was before this universe, including laws and forces, so you have, let's see . . . . NOTHING. Well, except of course myth from ancient man who was afraid of his own shadow.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:36 pm |
    • John P. Tarver

      What I wrote is a quote of Einstein from 1927 and stands as science today. The fact that most in America are ignorant of science and still use Scopes to make fun of Christians is hillarious.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:37 pm |
    • pima

      And again, JPT, Einstein or not, you have nothing. As I said, we have no idea that any present theory, laws regarding forces in the present universe would have applied before the universe. Anything before that is pure conjecture.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Yes John that is a quote from Einstein, but you are missing the point that Einstein did not believe in an Abrahamic deity. Look up "Spinoza's god", that is what Einstein was refering to....not your version.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:47 pm |
    • John P. Tarver

      I have modern scientific Theorys on my side that are the basis of our technology and a masters in EE, and you have outdated racist ignorancce upon which to rely. Relativity is the reason EE educated scientists are the most likely to be Creationists, as Relativity is Maxwell's Equations with Time taken Independant of Space. While QM is the basis of our sorcery.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:52 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      So john you are saying EE are the most easily deluded into believing unfounded supersti.tion? That is not something I would brag about.......

      November 11, 2012 at 1:05 pm |
    • LinCA

      @John P. Tarver

      You said, "I have modern scientific Theorys on my side"
      No, you don't. You simply have reached the limit of your understanding and have done what a believer typically does in a situation like that, thrown up your arms and proclaimed "goddidit!".

      November 11, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
  17. Cyndi

    CNN, I have lost all respect for you as a news source. This is not news and I don’t believe it can even be called opinion. What this article is blasphemy. Have you ever posted an article like this demeaning the believes of another religion in the name of opinion? The writers of this propaganda need to start a blog if they wish to express ideas such as these. As you wish to call this opinion, keep in mind that ALL opinions at sometime are either proven as lies or as truths. Your job should be uncovering such opinions, not in promoting more division than this country is already facing. A man who made a video demeaning the Muslim religion is now behind bars…think about that before hiding exercising your freedom of speech. Your little disclaimer at this end of this article does not let you off the hook.

    November 11, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
    • ends here

      end all grants and subsidies to all NFP's, that includes religions. Make them stop leaching off the American Middle Class. Make them pay property tax, it's against yours and my const-itutional rights for religion to infringe on our paychecks.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:08 pm |
    • Call me Bwana

      Jesus goes to Jerusalem and notices they are going to stone Mary Magdalene. He says: "Let the one who never sinned cast the first stone". A rock passes very closely to his ear and hits Mary Magdalene on the fore head. Jesus turn around and say to the thrower: `Mother, sometimes you really peeve me off`"

      November 11, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Too bad Cyndi, you are a complete idiot.

      You have the right to be offended....

      You DON'T have the right to NOT be offended....

      November 11, 2012 at 12:24 pm |
    • End Religion

      The American Taliban rears its hydra head....

      November 11, 2012 at 1:36 pm |
    • ATLmatt

      It is call Freedom of Speech. Get a life.

      November 11, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
  18. Tea Party Patriot

    Q: How many illegal mexicans does it take to shingle a roof?
    A: It depends how thin they're sliced.

    November 11, 2012 at 12:04 pm |
    • Call me Bwana

      You can slice shingles?

      November 11, 2012 at 12:22 pm |
    • ATLmatt

      you can slice shingles... with very sharp mexicans.

      November 11, 2012 at 1:51 pm |
  19. ends here

    The middle class pays dearly for tax exempt organizations. We need to end all grants, subsidies and tax exemptions to ALL NFP's. Nearly a trillion dollars a year is our cost. Not only would this reduce our deficit fast, it would put another (after taxes) $200 to $1,000 dollars a month in the middle class paycheck. This would boost the economy beyond our expectations. In the end, if people want to donate to Planned parent hood or their local church, they have lots more cash to do it. In the meanwhile, we need these organizations to stop leaching of the middle class. Let's make laws fair for those who pay the most, the middle class. End all tax exemptions, property too, and end all grants and subsidies. This also ends 90% of special interest tainting our elected officials.

    November 11, 2012 at 12:04 pm |
  20. Quid Malmborg in Plano TX

    What's white, creamy, and squirts across the sky?

    THE COMING OF THE LORD!!!

    November 11, 2012 at 12:03 pm |
    • koo

      you are going to hell you mexican bahhstard

      November 11, 2012 at 12:04 pm |
    • jesuslickballs

      coming suck on regan c0ck

      November 11, 2012 at 12:18 pm |
    • Quid Malmborg in Plano TX

      How dare you call me a Mexican.

      November 11, 2012 at 12:58 pm |
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