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My Take: What all those Jesus jokes tell us
The authors note that Jesus jokes have become popular just since the 1970s.
November 10th, 2012
10:00 PM ET

My Take: What all those Jesus jokes tell us

Editor’s note: Edward J. Blum is a historian of race and religion at San Diego State University. Paul Harvey is a history professor at the University of Colorado at Colorado Springs and runs the blog Religion in AmericanHistory. They co-authored “The Color of Christ: The Son of God and the Saga of Race in America.”

By Edward J. Blum and Paul Harvey, Special to CNN

Did you ever hear the one about Jesus being Mexican? Well, he was bilingual; he was constantly harassed by the government; and his first name was Jesus.

Or, perhaps Jesus was Irish? He loved a good story; he never kept a steady job; and his last request was for a drink.

Or maybe it’s possible that Jesus was Californian? He never cut his hair; he was always walking around barefoot; and he started a new religion.

You may not have heard these Jesus jokes, but you’ve heard others. They represent a comedic trend that has animated the United States since the 1970s. More and more comedy gimmicks hit on Jesus, his ethnicity and his relationship to politics. Laughing with (and at) the Lord is now fodder for major motion pictures, barroom comedy tours, graphic novels, t-shirts and bumper stickers.

How is it that a figure sacred to so many Americans has become the punch line of so many jokes? And why is it acceptable to poke fun at Jesus when other sacred figures are deemed off limits or there is hell to pay for mocking them?

The explanations are as numerous as the laughs.

Immigration shifts from the 1960s changed the ethnic and religious faces of the country so no tradition dominates today. The Christian right made such a moral spectacle of itself that it practically begged to be mocked. The emergence of “spiritual, but not religious” sensibilities left many Americans willing to denounce or laugh about traditional faith. The public rise of agnosticism, atheism, and secularism led to aggressive mockery as a form of persuasion.

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If we pause to consider why we’re laughing, we find that the comic bits delve into some of our thorniest and unresolved problems. The jokes reveal much more about us than they do Jesus. They speak to how our society has changed, how it hasn’t, and what we’re obsessed with.

The first public jokes about Jesus were heard in the 1970s. There had been religious jokes before this, but none about Jesus had become widely popular because organized Christianity held such authority. As the economic recession and problems of urban decay collided with civil rights exhaustion and new immigration, however, some Jesus jokes emerged.

Archie Bunker on “All in the Family” was the white racist and misogynist you loved to hate and hated to love. On one occasion, his son-in-law challenged Bunker’s rampant anti-Semitism with the claim, "Jesus was Jewish." Archie shot back immediately: "Only on his mother's side."

The “All in the Family” spin off “Good Times” featured a black family that lives in an inner-city housing project, probably Chicago's infamous Cabrini Green. On the show's second episode, the oldest son J. J. astounded everyone by painting Jesus as black. The younger son loves it, and says he learned all about Christ’s blackness from the local Nation of Islam.

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As the family debates whether this black Jesus should be hung on the wall in place of their white Jesus, they “miraculously” receive $140 from the Internal Revenue Service. Feeling blessed, the family placed the painting on its living room wall, and the elated J. J. shouted his tagline, "Dyno-mite!”

From the 1980s to the present, the number of prominent Jesus jokes has multiplied like loaves and fishes:

• In “Talladega Nights,” Ricky Bobby and his family debated which Jesus to pray to (“baby Jesus in golden fleece diapers,” “grown-up Jesus,” “ninja Jesus”). Their overall hope is that Jesus will help them continue their extravagant lifestyle.

• “South Park” featured Jesus as a weak-kneed host of a local talk show who boxes the devil.

• “Family Guy” had Jesus perform magic tricks that wowed his ancient audience.

• “The Colbert Report” placed a gun in Christ’s hand and had him defend conservatives against the liberal “War on Easter.”

• “Saturday Night Live” let Jesus chastise Tim Tebow for using the Lord’s name in vain and ended the bit by declaring that the Mormons have it right.

One unforgettable scene in the rather forgettable recent film “21 Jump Street” may explain why Jesus has become such a joke.

Before Jonah Hill’s character returns to high school as an undercover cop, he prays to a small, crucified “Korean Jesus.” Down on his knees, he says: “Hey Korean Jesus, I don’t know if you only cater to Korean Christians or if you even exist, no offense. I’m just really freaked out about going back to high school. It was just so f***ing hard the first time. … I just really don’t want to f*** this up. Sorry for swearing so much. The end? I don’t really know how to end the prayer.”

The hilarity of the moment only makes sense in our time. Hill's character is unchurched and agnostic, but wants spiritual power to guide him. We can laugh at how agnosticism and being “spiritual, but not religious,” leave him uncertain of what to say, how to say it, and even how to end.

We can also laugh at how ethnic factors color his approach. By wondering if Korean Jesus cares only about Korean problems, Hill pokes fun at the issue which was made a media spectacle in 2008, when the Rev. Jeremiah Wright could be heard preaching that “Jesus was a poor black man” as part of his support for Barack Obama. What good is a God who only cares for those who look like him?

The Jesus jokes not only reveal how tangled our religious, racial, economic and political positions have become, but also how many outlets there are for the jokes. In these tense times, when presidential hopefuls point fingers at one another and families unfriend one another over political and cultural differences, laughing may be one way to talk about the problems without killing one another.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Edward J. Blum and Paul Harvey.

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Filed under: Christianity • Entertainment • Jesus • Opinion

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  1. hiyaall

    Christians should start to sue over this, just like the American Indians did over an Indian Chief in a head dress, it is as offensive as white people dressing like a mammies with face painted black and white lips, Mexicans sleeping in the sun with their sombreros over their eyes, Jewish people being labled greedy, the list goes on and on. It is promoting discrimination, is wrong and highly offensive and it is not acceptable. I am offended by the religious bashing and intolerance. You are closed minded and intolerant of others it must stop and you should write an apology. Shame on CNN.

    November 11, 2012 at 8:54 pm |
    • Bill Clinton

      sue who? Your mama? STFU

      November 11, 2012 at 8:56 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheese makers

      You have the right to be offended...

      You do not have the right to not be offended...

      Idiot.

      November 11, 2012 at 8:59 pm |
    • John

      Jesus basically said if they've done this to him... what do you think they'll do to you? It's all part of the deal. Enjoy.

      November 11, 2012 at 9:08 pm |
    • Bertha

      Love lettuce hiiiaalyy

      November 11, 2012 at 9:11 pm |
    • 13monkees

      There is a huge difference between racial insensitivity and picking on people who believe in magic. First, you cannot change what you were born to be. A Native American was born that way and cannot change that. A Christian can learn that there is no difference between their myth and any other and choose rational thought instead of blind acceptance of a faith that promotes bigotry and hate.

      November 11, 2012 at 9:16 pm |
    • Bertha

      Well said hiyaiii. Lets start with bill clinton

      November 11, 2012 at 9:19 pm |
    • Bertha

      13 monkees go back to elementary school

      November 11, 2012 at 9:21 pm |
  2. Bill Clinton

    marriage is a horrible idea. If you are single and thinking of getting married: DO NOT DO IT. Repeat: DON'T DO IT!!!!!!

    November 11, 2012 at 8:54 pm |
    • Bertha

      Bill do you want to marry Bertha

      November 11, 2012 at 8:55 pm |
    • Bill Clinton

      I'll only let you blow me

      November 11, 2012 at 8:56 pm |
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    Ship Fedex

    November 11, 2012 at 8:53 pm |
    • Bertha

      Bill, i am serious

      November 11, 2012 at 9:02 pm |
  4. mark

    "How is it that a figure sacred to so many Americans has become the punch line of so many jokes?"
    Maybe because that figure (and all like it) is slowly, but surely losing credibility in the civilized world?

    November 11, 2012 at 8:44 pm |
    • Eliminate hinduism, Atheism, Secular ism. way of animals, not human.

      Because figure is hinduism, fabrication to hind, fool humanity. No one ever existed by the name of Jesus, no one has proof of any one ever existing in history by this name.

      November 11, 2012 at 8:51 pm |
    • Bill Clinton

      suck my st peter

      November 11, 2012 at 8:55 pm |
  5. married with children

    marriage is a horrible idea. If you are single and thinking of getting married: DO NOT DO IT.

    November 11, 2012 at 8:44 pm |
    • Eliminate hinduism, Atheism, Secular ism. way of animals, not human.

      only in mind of a hindu Jew; filthy secular.

      November 11, 2012 at 8:52 pm |
    • erin

      Honey, just because your marriage sucks, doesn't mean you need to project onto the rest of us.

      November 11, 2012 at 8:57 pm |
  6. Alan

    god made earth in 6 years what about the galaxy? Forgot galaxy?

    November 11, 2012 at 8:42 pm |
    • Fak Akma

      it was there already

      November 11, 2012 at 8:43 pm |
  7. Maleek

    Please read the Bible and pay attention to what the PROPHETS say about going against God.

    November 11, 2012 at 8:37 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Sure thing. Just as soon as you can show me how often your prophets are right.

      November 11, 2012 at 8:39 pm |
    • Fak Akma

      you mean the book that says to kill people, etc etc?

      November 11, 2012 at 8:41 pm |
    • Rational Libertarian

      Read the Cthulhu Mythos and see what happens to those who go against the Great Old Ones.

      November 11, 2012 at 8:44 pm |
    • married with children

      that is occult

      November 11, 2012 at 8:46 pm |
  8. Alan

    Christianity just does not blow my mind, full of flaws, prolly only people here for Christianity are the pastors.

    November 11, 2012 at 8:31 pm |
    • Fak Akma

      you can blow me anytime

      November 11, 2012 at 8:42 pm |
  9. Sky Cake!

    Oh sky cake, why are you so delicious?

    November 11, 2012 at 8:30 pm |
  10. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    November 11, 2012 at 8:29 pm |
    • HeavenSense

      Hi prayerbot,....

      November 11, 2012 at 8:37 pm |
    • Fak Akma

      such as...?

      November 11, 2012 at 8:38 pm |
    • Observer

      Ask all the Republicans who prayed before the elections. Ooops.

      November 11, 2012 at 9:38 pm |
  11. Apple Bush

    Religion should ever be a personal choice and not be made a public spectacle as many so do including the Christian Pharisees who incite their folds to make public policymakers shudder with mono-phobiatic fear. I love my lucidly imaginative yearnings about God and His Godly others, yet I will not make you believe in them. Yes, keep those Pharisees of religious dominations apart and away from public policymakers! Keep also away from governing bodies all those who acclimate disseminations of moralisms that fall upon a person's rights to choose be it any drug type use or choice of gambling or paying for s3x! We are all moral people no matter the habitual choices we make!

    Demoralizing the ebbs and flows of societal propogandist leverages seems to be all that politics can muster up nowadays. Just exactly how free is one when regarding personal freedoms to choose one's 'recreational' drugs of choice or for that matter how to gamble or where one can pay for s3x? Is Big brother always going to mother its' citizens creating in the folds many phobias due the illegalities of what I deem to be personal choices? Moral choices are personal choices and governments should not make personal choices in all manner of moralities.

    November 11, 2012 at 8:10 pm |
  12. Attack of the 50 Foot Magical Underwear

    This board is just getting F***ing weirder and weirder as the day goes on.

    November 11, 2012 at 8:07 pm |
    • GodFreeNow

      agree... people are really starting to flounder.

      November 11, 2012 at 8:19 pm |
    • Damien

      I think you're right the board does seem to be getting stranger, but I think that is in part due to the changing face of belief in America. Your average Christian is fine with changes and more religions and people, but I think the far right is freaking the hell out. They don't hold the leads in votes anymore, they are quickly becoming America's newest minority, times change folks learn to adapt or go the way of the dinosaurs.

      November 11, 2012 at 8:27 pm |
    • Fak Akma

      you cray mo fo

      November 11, 2012 at 8:39 pm |
    • Fak Akma

      have you been on here all day? if so, you need to get a life. Sorry, but it's true

      November 11, 2012 at 8:40 pm |
  13. MCR

    I think neither the author nor most of the posters get these jokes – or more likely never hear them. These jokes are usually not "poking fun" at either Jesus or religion, but are cultural observation type jokes, often by well educated Christians. Non believers usually don't bother to make Jesus jokes...its just boring and irrelevant. The person I know who makes the most religion jokes is a Catholic nun with multiple degrees. Plenty of religious folk have a sense of humor, it's just not that funny outside the religious realm.

    November 11, 2012 at 8:05 pm |
  14. Jesus_Is_My_Homeboy

    All those who use the LORDS name in vain will suffer dire punishment.

    how DARE you make fun of the Son Of GOD,you souless heathens.

    NO cosmic power or safety for your dryed up souls.

    I think the BIGGEST jokes towards CHRIST is everything that is'nt Christian.Such as science and Hindu's

    November 11, 2012 at 7:53 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Hey, stupid: It's "soulless" and "dried."

      November 11, 2012 at 7:55 pm |
    • John P. Tarver

      Christianity is an Hindi caste, silly person.

      November 11, 2012 at 7:55 pm |
    • Rational Libertarian

      I sense a troll.

      November 11, 2012 at 8:00 pm |
    • Stan

      So JIMH, your god, as you describe him, is a vicious, punishing, torturing jerk

      No thanks. Please keep your god myths to yourself, silently.

      November 11, 2012 at 8:06 pm |
    • Jack Shat

      Actually the biggest jokes towards christ are tea baggers like you.

      November 11, 2012 at 8:29 pm |
  15. aacon

    The Bible in Gods' words before the birth of Jesus....and he will deceive many coming as a shining light performing miracles in my name.Jesus said only through me can anyone enter the Kingdom of Heaven... putting God completely unable to.Makes one wonder if the antichrist has already came and the true Christ yet to make his first appearance.Just sayin.

    November 11, 2012 at 7:53 pm |
    • John P. Tarver

      Cesar Nero is 666 in Greek and has already died.

      November 11, 2012 at 7:54 pm |
  16. Romney_is_PowerMad

    YO JESus

    come at me Bro.

    November 11, 2012 at 7:50 pm |
  17. !

    Few 100% true Reasons why Atheism is TERRIBLE and unhealthy for our children and living things:

    † Atheism is a religion that makes you angry, stupid, brainwashed, ignorant & blind.
    † Atheism is a disease that needs to be treated.
    † Atheism makes you post stupid things (90% of silly comments here on CNN blogs are posted by closet atheists)
    † Atheist are satanic and have gothic lifestyle.
    † Atheists are misguided and causes problem in our religious & public society.
    † Atheists are mentally ill, that's why they have no faith.
    † Atheism won't take you to kingdom of heaven and paradise.
    † Atheism making you agree with Mussolini, Stalin, Hitler (denied his faith later), Mao, Pol Pot & other terrible mass murder leaders who killed religious people because of their religious cult!
    † No traditional family lifestyle, no holidays, no culture, boring and feeling 'outsider'
    † Atheists are angry, drug additcted and committ the most crime.
    † Atheist try to convert people over internet because they feel "safer" behind closet.
    † Atheists do not really exist, they just pretend that they don't believe in God and argue with religious people.
    † Atheists have had terrible life experience, bad childhood and not being loved.
    † Most atheists are uneducated... No atheists could run for presidency.
    † Atheism brought upon the French Revolution, one of the most evil events of all of history.
    † Atheism cannot explain the origins of the universe, therefore God exists.
    † All atheists believe in evolution, which means they don't believe in morality and think we should all act like animals.
    † The Bible says atheism is wrong, and the Bible is always right (see: Genesis 1:1, Psalms 14:1, Psalms 19:1, Romans 1:19-20)
    † Countries where Atheism is prevalent has the highest Suicide rate & Communist countries = Atheism!
    **Only 2-3% of the U.S. are atheists/agnostics VS. over 90% who believe in God (80% Christians) in the U.S.**

    † † Our Prayers goes to atheists to be mentally healthy and seek their creator † †

    PS! the USA is a † nation and will always be. You know it's true and stop being ignorant and arrogant!
    (Take a look at our federal/state holidays, 99% of our presidents, blue laws in parts of the nation, name of some cities/counties/streets, the majority of people, some laws, calendar, culture, etc.)

    http://rightremedy.org/tracts/7

    ,,

    November 11, 2012 at 7:45 pm |
    • hal 9001

      I'm sorry, "!", but your assertions regarding atheism are unfounded. Using my Idiomatic Expression Equivalency module (IEE), the expression that best matches the degree to which your assertions may represent truths is: "TOTAL FAIL".

      I see that you repeat these unfounded statements with high frequency. Perhaps the following book can help you:

      I'm Told I Have Dementia: What You Can Do... Who You Can Turn to...

      November 11, 2012 at 7:47 pm |
    • ThinkDefyUnite

      Well stated and thought out, your arguments are airtight.

      As is your brain. By your comments you have inadvertently served the interests of all atheists everywhere.

      Behold the reasoning of the "Brainwashed Ones".

      November 11, 2012 at 7:51 pm |
    • jinglebuddy

      Er, yeah, maybe. But out founding fathers had something much more important on their mind: beer.

      November 11, 2012 at 7:55 pm |
    • aacon

      And you think preaching that hate will change peoples minds ? It will only make things even worse.The plan is for everyone to come on their own.Things you said angers them to distance themselves even further.Change.

      November 11, 2012 at 8:01 pm |
    • postedbygeo

      you just showed the depth of perversion of your middl-eastrn religion.

      November 11, 2012 at 8:12 pm |
    • Jack Shat

      I live a very normal life. I love and care dearly for my family and I help those in my neighborhood that need help. I also read extensivly to improve my understanding of the world. I have read Darwins book (It is quite interesting though a bit long) and I have read many books from Hawkins, Orwell, Hitchens, Dickens, and Dawkins to name a few. Plus many books about culture, history, government, philosophy and even the Bible. I would kindly invite you to read and expand your world. You will most likely find your world is very small and very dark.

      November 11, 2012 at 8:23 pm |
    • Cacogen

      ;-)

      Some people are easily whooshed.

      November 11, 2012 at 8:25 pm |
    • Observer

      Don't expect the CHICKEN who posts those lies to stick around to defend them.

      November 11, 2012 at 8:29 pm |
    • ThereIsNoGod

      † Atheism is a religion that makes you angry, stupid, brainwashed, ignorant & blind.
      ATHEISM IS A LACK OF RELIGION. CAN HAVING NO HOBBIES BE A HOBBY? I ALL MY YEARS OF TALKING TO PEOPLE, THE MORE EDUCATED THEY ARE THE LESS RELIGIOUS THEY ARE AND VICE VERSA.
      † Atheism is a disease that needs to be treated.
      ACTUALLY RELIGION IS THE DESEASE. THE CURE IS EDUCATION.
      † Atheism makes you post stupid things (90% of silly comments here on CNN blogs are posted by closet atheists)
      ACTUALLY IS REPUBLICANS THAT POST STUPID COMMENTS.
      † Atheist are satanic and have gothic lifestyle.
      AGAIN. ATHEISTS DO NOT BELIEVE IN FAIRY TALES (GOD AND THE DEVIL).
      † Atheists are misguided and causes problem in our religious & public society.
      I WOULD SAY THE OPPOSITE. RELIGION IS MISGUIDED AND CAUSES PROBLEMS TO RATIONAL THINKING HUMANS.
      † Atheists are mentally ill, that's why they have no faith.
      FAITH: A BLIND BELIEVE THAT SOMETHING EXISTS. YOU BELIEVE IN AN INVISIBLE FLOATING POWERFUL BEING THAT KILLS YOU IF YOU DON'T DO WHAT HE SAYS...YEAH AND WE'RE THE CRAZY ONES.
      † Atheism won't take you to kingdom of heaven and paradise.
      I"VE BEEN TO PARADISE ALREADY...IT'S CALLED BORA BORA.
      † Atheism making you agree with Mussolini, Stalin, Hitler (denied his faith later), Mao, Pol Pot & other terrible mass murder leaders who killed religious people because of their religious cult!
      THESE WERE POWER HUNGRY MAD MEN WHO WERE DRIVEN BY POWER NOT RELIGION. AS FAR AS I KNOW HITLER IS ONLY LOVED BY MUSLIMS (RELIGIOUS NOT ATHEISTS).
      † No traditional family lifestyle, no holidays, no culture, boring and feeling 'outsider'
      NOT SO. EASTER: DAY OF THE BUNNY. CHRISTMAS: SANTA CLAUS BRINGS TOYS. THANKSGIVING: THANK THOSE AMERICAN INDIANS. IF YOU WANNA THROW IN ANY OTHER DAYS TO PARTY, BRING THEM ON!
      † Atheists are angry, drug additcted and committ the most crime.
      I AM A VERY HAPPY ATHEIST. IN FACT WHEN I STOP GOING TO CHURCH AND WAS NO LONGER TOLD WHAT A LOUSY HUMAN I WAS THAT'S WHEN I WAS THE HAPPIESTS. I HAVE NEVER TAKEN DRUGS, NEVER SMOKED A SINGLE CIGARETTE AND DON'T DRINK ALCOHOL. ALSO, I'VE HAD ONE TICKET FOR NOT WEARING MY SEATBELT.
      † Atheist try to convert people over internet because they feel "safer" behind closet.
      CONVERT TO WHAT? THE BEST WAY TO BECOME AN ATHEISTS IS TO REAL THE DAM BIBLE IN THE FIRST PLACE. YOU DON'T EVEN NEED TO GO FARTHER THAN GENESIS.
      † Atheists do not really exist, they just pretend that they don't believe in God and argue with religious people.
      OH WE DO EXISTS. IN FACT LETS MAKE A DEAL: LET'S BOTH WALK OUT TOGETHER AND YOU SCREAM, "ATHEISTS, IF YOUR'RE OUT THERE KICK MY ASS." I'LL DO THE SAME EXCEPT I'LL SCREAM "GOD IF YOU'RE REALLY OUT THERE KICK MY ASS." THEN WE'LL SEE WHOSE WISH COMES TRUE.
      † Atheists have had terrible life experience, bad childhood and not being loved.
      YOUR'RE RIGHT! MY MOTHER TORTURED ME MAKING ME GO TO CHURCH AND WASTE HALF MY SUNDAY.
      † Most atheists are uneducated... No atheists could run for presidency.
      IS THAT WHY 95% OF PHD'S ARE ATHEIST OR AT THE VERY LEAST AGNOSTIC.
      PLUS AFTER BUSH'S PRESIDENCY, EDUCATED IS NOT WHAT COMES TO MIND WHEN YOU THINK OF THE US PRESIDENCY.
      † Atheism brought upon the French Revolution, one of the most evil events of all of history.
      NO THAT WAS BROUGHT ABOUT BY THE SOCIAL INJUSTICES OF THE FRENCH CROWN. THE MOST EVIL EVENT WAS PROBABLY THE SPANISH INQUISITION.
      † Atheism cannot explain the origins of the universe, therefore God exists.
      ATHEISM DOES NOT TRY TO EXPLAIN THE ORIGINS OF LIFE. YOU MEAN SCIENCE CANNOT EXPLAIN THE ORIGINS OF LIFE. THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON THE ONES SAYING THE CRAZY STUFF.
      † All atheists believe in evolution, which means they don't believe in morality and think we should all act like animals.
      YOU CLEARLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT EVOLUTION IS; PLEASE READ A BOOK. MORALITY? ACCORDING TO YOUR FICTION BOOK YOUR GOD MURDERED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE AND INNOCENT ANIMALS DURING THE GREAT FLOOD.
      † The Bible says atheism is wrong, and the Bible is always right (see: Genesis 1:1, Psalms 14:1, Psalms 19:1, Romans 1:19-20)
      NEWS FLASH THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN BY MEN TO CONTROL PEOPLE.
      † Countries where Atheism is prevalent has the highest Suicide rate & Communist countries = Atheism!
      ACTUALLY THE HIGHEST SUICIDE RATE IS BY YOUNG GAYS THAT GET BULLIED BY RELIGIOUS NUT FREAKS!

      25% OF AMERICANS (AND GROWING) NOW DESCRIBE THEMSELVES AS NON RELIGIOUS. IN 100 YEARS IT WILL BE CLOSE TO 100%. THE SOONER WE CAN ELIMINATE THIS DISEASE THE SOONER WE CAN PROSPER AS A SPECIES.

      November 11, 2012 at 9:11 pm |
  18. Scott

    In the story Elijah tests god and god comes through with flying colors. He then had all the competing prophets killed because their god didn’t pass the test. I think it is only fair to request modern day prophets to prove their god exists by passing the same test, and we get to kill them if their god fails

    November 11, 2012 at 7:44 pm |
    • John P. Tarver

      In the story of Elijah several hundred gay men are executed, but the powers at be are left in place to redicule Elijah, for 4 years to come. I do wonder at Jezebel's hostesses being left alive in Elijah's judgement of the wikid.

      November 11, 2012 at 7:49 pm |
  19. Fred

    "Unchurched" lol

    November 11, 2012 at 7:28 pm |
  20. John P. Tarver

    Elijah proved God and at the peak of his power Jezabel cursed him and discouraged him so badly that he soon asked God to let him die. It does not matter if a miracle occurs, the unbeliever is not moved.

    November 11, 2012 at 7:28 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      Pretty are the lights up ever so high. G.O.D. are you there?

      November 11, 2012 at 7:41 pm |
    • pima

      JPT – you almost got the definition of rationality correct. But you had one of the words wrong. Here, I'll correct it for you:

      It does not matter if a miracle is assumed, the unbeliever is not moved.

      November 11, 2012 at 7:41 pm |
    • John P. Tarver

      Apple-In order to revive Elijah from his suicidal depression God gave him a woman for 2 years. Some bush is all it took.

      November 11, 2012 at 7:43 pm |
    • Ben

      Trust me John, if I witnessed an unexplainable miracle I would be much more inclined to believe in a higher power. The thing is, apparently God doesn't really do miracles to sway belief anymore so I guess I'm SOL.

      November 11, 2012 at 7:57 pm |
    • John P. Tarver

      Ben-Most Christians do not fear God and never recieve any knowledge of God and do not have the periods of very good luck; also called supernatural powers. The Jesus the Church sells today is just a man, with no power of his own and none for you either.

      November 11, 2012 at 8:02 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      How high can a light get? Are lights in the sky really up there so high or is it me that is down ever so low? No matter John.

      November 11, 2012 at 8:03 pm |
    • Stan

      John, there is no evidence for your claims and you are merely presenting circular references when you quote your mythbook like that.

      November 11, 2012 at 8:09 pm |
    • Rational Libertarian

      As Ian Anderson said,

      "Legends were born
      surrounding mysterious lights
      seen in the sky
      FLASHING"

      November 11, 2012 at 8:10 pm |
    • John P. Tarver

      Stan-The bible is the greatest study of human nature ever written, no matter what your belief in supernatural things.

      November 11, 2012 at 8:15 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      Flashing Lights? They better be clothed or I am going to stay way clear of the windows. I do not care for flashers especially the lit ones.

      November 11, 2012 at 8:16 pm |
    • Eliminate hinduism, Atheism, Secular ism. way of animals, not human.

      From book of hinduism, corruption of true Torah, called Greek Torah, handy work of hindu's pagans of Egypt. called old testament, translated by Ben Asheer in 3rd centurey AD in Yiddish, also hind, wrongly known as Hebrew Torah, reject of son of blessed Mary, but believed by followers of hindu Mithra ism, pagan savior ism, Christianity as GOD's word's. hinduism, absurdity laid on son of blessed Mary to hind, fool humanity.

      November 11, 2012 at 8:48 pm |
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