Editor’s note: Edward J. Blum is a historian of race and religion at San Diego State University. Paul Harvey is a history professor at the University of Colorado at Colorado Springs and runs the blog Religion in AmericanHistory. They co-authored “The Color of Christ: The Son of God and the Saga of Race in America.”
By Edward J. Blum and Paul Harvey, Special to CNN
Did you ever hear the one about Jesus being Mexican? Well, he was bilingual; he was constantly harassed by the government; and his first name was Jesus.
Or, perhaps Jesus was Irish? He loved a good story; he never kept a steady job; and his last request was for a drink.
Or maybe it’s possible that Jesus was Californian? He never cut his hair; he was always walking around barefoot; and he started a new religion.
You may not have heard these Jesus jokes, but you’ve heard others. They represent a comedic trend that has animated the United States since the 1970s. More and more comedy gimmicks hit on Jesus, his ethnicity and his relationship to politics. Laughing with (and at) the Lord is now fodder for major motion pictures, barroom comedy tours, graphic novels, t-shirts and bumper stickers.
How is it that a figure sacred to so many Americans has become the punch line of so many jokes? And why is it acceptable to poke fun at Jesus when other sacred figures are deemed off limits or there is hell to pay for mocking them?
The explanations are as numerous as the laughs.
Immigration shifts from the 1960s changed the ethnic and religious faces of the country so no tradition dominates today. The Christian right made such a moral spectacle of itself that it practically begged to be mocked. The emergence of “spiritual, but not religious” sensibilities left many Americans willing to denounce or laugh about traditional faith. The public rise of agnosticism, atheism, and secularism led to aggressive mockery as a form of persuasion.
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If we pause to consider why we’re laughing, we find that the comic bits delve into some of our thorniest and unresolved problems. The jokes reveal much more about us than they do Jesus. They speak to how our society has changed, how it hasn’t, and what we’re obsessed with.
The first public jokes about Jesus were heard in the 1970s. There had been religious jokes before this, but none about Jesus had become widely popular because organized Christianity held such authority. As the economic recession and problems of urban decay collided with civil rights exhaustion and new immigration, however, some Jesus jokes emerged.
Archie Bunker on “All in the Family” was the white racist and misogynist you loved to hate and hated to love. On one occasion, his son-in-law challenged Bunker’s rampant anti-Semitism with the claim, "Jesus was Jewish." Archie shot back immediately: "Only on his mother's side."
The “All in the Family” spin off “Good Times” featured a black family that lives in an inner-city housing project, probably Chicago's infamous Cabrini Green. On the show's second episode, the oldest son J. J. astounded everyone by painting Jesus as black. The younger son loves it, and says he learned all about Christ’s blackness from the local Nation of Islam.
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As the family debates whether this black Jesus should be hung on the wall in place of their white Jesus, they “miraculously” receive $140 from the Internal Revenue Service. Feeling blessed, the family placed the painting on its living room wall, and the elated J. J. shouted his tagline, "Dyno-mite!”
From the 1980s to the present, the number of prominent Jesus jokes has multiplied like loaves and fishes:
• In “Talladega Nights,” Ricky Bobby and his family debated which Jesus to pray to (“baby Jesus in golden fleece diapers,” “grown-up Jesus,” “ninja Jesus”). Their overall hope is that Jesus will help them continue their extravagant lifestyle.
• “South Park” featured Jesus as a weak-kneed host of a local talk show who boxes the devil.
• “Family Guy” had Jesus perform magic tricks that wowed his ancient audience.
• “The Colbert Report” placed a gun in Christ’s hand and had him defend conservatives against the liberal “War on Easter.”
• “Saturday Night Live” let Jesus chastise Tim Tebow for using the Lord’s name in vain and ended the bit by declaring that the Mormons have it right.
One unforgettable scene in the rather forgettable recent film “21 Jump Street” may explain why Jesus has become such a joke.
Before Jonah Hill’s character returns to high school as an undercover cop, he prays to a small, crucified “Korean Jesus.” Down on his knees, he says: “Hey Korean Jesus, I don’t know if you only cater to Korean Christians or if you even exist, no offense. I’m just really freaked out about going back to high school. It was just so f***ing hard the first time. … I just really don’t want to f*** this up. Sorry for swearing so much. The end? I don’t really know how to end the prayer.”
The hilarity of the moment only makes sense in our time. Hill's character is unchurched and agnostic, but wants spiritual power to guide him. We can laugh at how agnosticism and being “spiritual, but not religious,” leave him uncertain of what to say, how to say it, and even how to end.
We can also laugh at how ethnic factors color his approach. By wondering if Korean Jesus cares only about Korean problems, Hill pokes fun at the issue which was made a media spectacle in 2008, when the Rev. Jeremiah Wright could be heard preaching that “Jesus was a poor black man” as part of his support for Barack Obama. What good is a God who only cares for those who look like him?
The Jesus jokes not only reveal how tangled our religious, racial, economic and political positions have become, but also how many outlets there are for the jokes. In these tense times, when presidential hopefuls point fingers at one another and families unfriend one another over political and cultural differences, laughing may be one way to talk about the problems without killing one another.
The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Edward J. Blum and Paul Harvey.
"I believe in a God that doesn't require heavy financing." Fletch, from "Fletch Lives.'
Shut The F Up
Most human beings are born intuitively knowing there is a God. Throughout ancient and modern history every civilization worships some greater deity or deities, but even though atheists or unbelievers externally look like regular human beings, internally they lack the spirit or the cognition of the divine, therefore they will never see God since they cannot fully grasp the wonder and the beauty of creation proclaiming the glory of God
Atheists are powerless hell bound insignificant varmints, trapped in their limited, fragile mortal earthly bodies, having only at their disposal a boastful harmless tongue, which they use to spread lies amongst the ignorant and the lost concerning Jesus Christ the living God, Creator, Savior, Lord, and Master of the Universe who is forever praised, Amen.
Prove your first claim, Henry. Cite your sources. Show evidence that humans are "born intuitively knowing there is a god."
Go ahead. But make it snappy. I need to get to work.
"Ronald Regonzo" who degenerates to:
"Salvatore" degenerates to'
"Douglas" degenerates to:
"truth be told" degenerates to;
"Thinker23" degenerates to:
"Atheism is not healthy ..." degenerates to:
"another repentant sinner" degenerates to:
"Dodney Rangerfield" degenerates to:
"tina" degenerates to:
"captain america" degenerates to:
"Atheist Hunter" degenerates to:
"Anybody know how to read? " degenerates to:
"just sayin" degenerates to:
"ImLook'nUp" degenerates to:
"Kindness" degenerates to:
"Chad" degenerates to
"Bob" degenerates to
"nope" degenerates to:
"2357" degenerates to:
"WOW" degenerates to:
"Henry" degenerates to:
"fred" degenerates to:
"!" degenerates to:
"pervert alert" is the degenerate.
This troll is not a christian.
To Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son from Henry.
Most people, save atheists, are born with immediate cognition of the divine, and the knowledge of right and wrong without the use of rational processes. When atheists speak, they lie, since lying is their native language, for they are liars, and the fathers of lies. Atheists are the weeds of humanity as stated by Jesus Christ in Matthew 13: 24-30 24, “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared. “The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’ “‘An enemy did this,’ he replied. “The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’ “‘No,’ he answered, ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may root up the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.’”
The parable of the Weeds explained in Matthew 13: 36- 43, “Then Jesus left the crowd and went into the house. His disciples came to him and said, “Explain to us the parable of the weeds in the field.” He answered, “The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man. The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the sons of the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one, and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels. “As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear.
Henry- "Most human beings are born intuitively knowing there is a God. "
Henry- "Most people, save atheists, are born with immediate cognition of the divine,"
Well this is under the joke article, but I'm sensing Henry is serious about these two statements, which are of course bullsh it.
Of course it is bullish!t. Henry has now been asked twice to provide a source that provides any evidence that this is a fact. Note to Henry: The bible doesn't count as a source of fact, moron.
The "hilarity," as you call it, of Jonah Hill's personal moment with a higher power, is that - even with his limited knowledge of organized religion - he's painfully, even pitifully, aware that some would tell him there's a "correct" way to pray... as if there ever could be such a thing for a true deity deserving of our worship. Also quite positive this was not even a remote allusion to Rev. Wright. The author (not sure which one?) is stretching to make some point, though I'm not sure what is is. Thought this article was to illuminate some belief behind Jesus joke popularity, not to take yet another potshot at agnostics and other unconventional spiritualists? That would have been a good read...
Genesis 19: 8
"Look, I have two daughters, virgins both of them. Let me bring them out to you and you could do what you like with them. But do nothing to these men because they have come under the shelter of my roof."
Which proves it was about "hospitality", and not s'ex.
Do yourself a favor and look up "nephilim". It is precisely because of how dangerous the nephilim are, that Lot was willing to give up even his own two daughters to prevent this atrocity from happening.
Mama – you forgot to put the part that comes next:
Then the men (angeles) said to Lot: “Do you have anyone else here? Son‐in‐law and your sons and your daughters and all who are yours in the city, bring out of the place!13For we are bringing this place to ruin, because the outcry against them has grown loud before Jehovah, so that Jehovah sent us to bring the city to ruin.”14Hence Lot went on out and began to speak to his sons‐in‐law who were to take his daughters, and he kept on saying: “Get up! Get out of this place, because Jehovah is bringing the city to ruin!” But in the eyes of his sons‐in‐law he seemed like a man who was joking.
All of Genesis is myth. The Docu'mentary Hypothesis has proven that. Camels were not domesticated until 1000 BCE, and the Sea Peoples, (the Phonecians), did not arrive until 1200 BCE. It's all just a made up story, until it begins for real in Judges with Deborah, aronnd 1200 BCE
and after that Lot god drunk and screwed both his daughters....for he was rightous!
And the biggest Jesus jokes are the ones who keep worshipping him 2000+ years later without any proof he was anything more than just an ordinary man.
God / Allah is not as easily offended as Islam wants their followers to believe.
Chaoticism, nice try, not hardly. I am a born again CHRISTian. Yes, time on my knees,correct. Your always tallest when on your knees. Selfish people wouldn't understand,now would you. Our LORD put himself on the cross for you (this is to ALL the "funny"people, the bill mahers of this world who think they're funny,smart and ignorant.) That is right, he died on the cross for you! The BEST of it all..........people like you couldn't kill him, he rose again,he walked on this earth again and lives FOREVER and guess what smart guy........he's waiting for you!! I will NOT argue with you, I will PRAY for you. LOVE to you, PEACE be with you,. He forgives, so therefore we must also forgive. god bless ALL, he LOVES you !
Any god, (an ancient pi.ss.ed-off deity) that requires the death of it's son before he can say "I forgive you", is not worth of the ti'tle "god".
Cocain is a hell of a drug.
God is going to cast a " Solar Flare " at all of you! lol
John: Psilocybin is better
tino: your god is a vindictive, petty pr!ck, and his followers are snivelling sycophants. back on your knees, b!tch
There are jokes about Jebus, as Jebus is a joke.
I could only take the first dozen or so comments. You apparently missed the point of the piece and have degraded the conversation to arguing the validity of religion. The Jesus jokes serve only one purpose. They are used to show that negative characteristics attributed to certain groups (which are always stated as generalities) could also be given to a person regarded as a paragon of virtue. We laugh because we recognize the stupidity of the stereotypical remarks.
Atheists are just people with no values and no respect for another human being, they have no logic but they try to describe God with their so called logical ways. Most of them are losers in life and they trying to make themselves on top of others pretending to be scientists. They will argue and will show up on every comments boards where religions are the subject. They have no life other than just doing that.
If you're going to troll, you need to try harder than this. This is lackluster at best.
I find it interesting that you are generalizing "most" atheists by accusing them of having no respect for other humans – a VERY generalized statement.
If someone is disrespectful or non-committal about another's belief system, I would say it has more to do with their character than in any belief they might have.
If I had one wish in this life, it would be to forever remove the idea that being religious and being moral are mutually inclusive.
... or even correlated.
"trying to make themselves on top of others" - what does that mean? You might be right, but you'll have to translate it for me, first.
You have no proof of that. Many altruistic atheists do things without the promise of a reward, thus proving they are MORE altruistic than the pew sheep who do stuff, only because they get a reward.
What about atheists constantly on comments board where religion is the subject matter? Don't atheists have better things to do or is it only what atheism is all about. You don't have better matters to discuss about other than religions?
I'll explain it to you if you answer my question first-since I asked it first.
they trying to make themselves on top of others pretending to be scientists.
You can't "pretend" to be a scientist any more than you can "pretend" to be a cardiac surgeon. You can, however, pretend to be a man of god while ra_ping a child.
All religion is demonstrably false.
For it is written: “I will make the wisdom of the wise [men] perish, and the intelligence of the intellectual [men] I will shove aside.”Where is the wise man? Where the scribe? Where the debater of this system of things? Did not God make the wisdom of the world foolish?For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through its wisdom did not get to know God, God saw good through the foolishness of what is preached to save those believing.
Because a foolish thing of God is wiser than men, and a weak thing of God is stronger than men. 1Cor 1:18-25
The wise man can prove his existence; god can't.
Quite ironic that you chose the word "demonstrably"
It's the same root as "demonstrate" = which is exactly what religion is NOT: demonstratable
You cannot demonstrate whether it is true or not – there is no way to prove or disprovr any religion.
So your statement about how all religions are demonstrably false is wrong.
It is very easy for God to demonstrate He exists. This will happen. You can think what you want but there are consequences to your decision. You need to understand that you do not deserve to enter heaven. The gift of Jesus is very generous, but if you do not accept Him before your die, you are not saved from what you deserve. Fear God's justice. The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." Say a prayer and say "I accept Jesus Christ as my savior, and I repent of all my sins" while it is not too late.
Sorry, but I will neither worship a god who resorts to threats nor one who allows such a place of torture. I may acknowledge his existence, someday, but if he is as you describe, I will KNOW that he is evil and that I was right not to worship him.
So you're arguing for stupidity ?
We all know if you were in trouble you would find a smart doctor, or a smart lawyer.
YOU value intelligence. YOU are a hypocrite.
Go easy on brampt, he's a hypocrite, they don't know when they are lying
@Christian, "Sorry, but I will neither worship a god who resorts to threats nor one who allows such a place of torture. I may acknowledge his existence, someday, but if he is as you describe, I will KNOW that he is evil and that I was right not to worship him."
When your life passes before your eyes and you finally realise just how depraved you were/are (as well as me), and then you see the hloiness and mercy of God, you will not even want to be near Him.
"And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"
@Moby Schtick "There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death." Psalm 14:1
What you are really asking is for is the ability to sin against God using what he has provided to you and have no consequences. He has given you such an obvious and easy way out, that the result is your own decision. You salvation from your own sin cost Him greatly. Excepting Jesus is easy, but dealing with the alternative is unimaginable. He does not want you to be tormented. There is only one way to avoid it and it cost you nothing. Accept Jesus' free gift of redemption. Just say "I accept Jesus as my savior and repent of all my sins."
Atheists should sonsider the lesson of Anakin Skywalker...
In the movie Star Wars, Anakin was deceived by a lie when he believed the Emperor and what he had told him. In the same like manner, the atheists of the world today has been deceived by a lie as well, Lucifer's lie, in believing that God does not exist. In Anakin's case, what was the root cause that had led him down the path of the Dark Side? Answer: His own evil lusts within him. His own lusts had drew him into it. In the words of Obi-Wan Kenobi when he faced Anakin at the movie's climax, he told Anakin "your anger and your lust for power has already done that". And in the words of Yoda when he counseled Luke on the planet Degaba, he said, "once you start down the path to the Dark Side, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will". And that is precisely what has happened to many atheists in the world today. Because of their own evil lusts (namely their desire to be able to live a life without God and without being punished for their sins and evil acts) they have become consumed by the lure of the Dark Side, and so consumed until they can no longer see the truth. In fact, Anakin became so deceived until he reached the point of thinking and believing that the Jedi were evil, and he could not see or fantom that it was the Emperor who was evil. In the same like fashion, many atheists today think and believe that the Christians are the ones who are evil and are deceived and are living in a fantasy, and they cannot see or fantom that it is they themselves who are living in the fantasy. But unlike Anakin, who at the end of his life found redemption, most atheists when they finally do discover the truth, it will be too late for them because they will be in hell. And once in hell, there is no getting out and no return. For there is no path from hell back to heaven…
" it will be too late for them because they will be in hell. And once in hell, there is no getting out and no return. For there is no path from hell back to heaven…"
What makes you think that:
- there is a hell?
- it will ever be too late to get out of it?
- there is no path out of it?
What is your verified evidence that these are facts.
Christian Fallacy #371 – Atheists hate god and are being deceived by Satan
We don't hate something that we don't believe exists. You can extend that to angels, demons, cherubs, etc., etc.
Honestly, any god who would condemn someone to eternal torture for no crime other than not believing in his existence isnt a god worth worshiping. Especially when he could quite easily make his existence known but chooses not to.
What definition of "good" does that fall under? Not just punishing someone, but punishing them for all of eternity simply to assuage his own ego? That sounds more like a frail human personification than a god.
Ooh, hey! Is this why the pope looks just like Emporer Palpatine??
Proper English requires "atheiests have", not "atheists has". Why would anyone listen to what an uneducated dolt has to say. The an'alogy with Anakin is the Fallacy of the False Analogy. You have no proof of a "lucifer" or a "satan", and in fact any Biblical scholar knows that the concept of evil the Hebrews had, was that of "chaos", and they got it from the Sumerian myth system.
In short two myths, (two wrongs), don't make a truth, (right).
But keep trying, preacher man. maybe some day you will learn how to construct a sermon worth listening to.
Non-belief is not a moral choice. Is your idiot god so fvcking stupid she doesn't know that if I were to say "Oh I believe" when I really don't, she wouldn't know the difference ?
Star Stuff… Sure thing, I'll provide you with my evidence. But I don't guarantee you'll be intelligent enough to comprehend it…
My evidence: Jesus Christ is all the evidence I need (he's the only man who went to hell and came out). His word is unimpeachable and there is no word greater than his…
And what makes you think: 1) there is no hell? 2) that you can get out once you are there. 3) that there is a path out of it…
So please provide me with your evidence. Put up or shut up…
Sybaris… You also don't know the definition of "hate". If you hate the things of God, the ways of God, the laws of God, the opinions of God, or the people of God - then you hate God. You cannot escape it…
There ia no god to hate. Do you "hate" the 1957 Chevy orbiting Pluto ?
Realbuckyball… Just because you're dumb enough to throw your marbles in with Lucifer and are bound for hell and the lake, you don't have to keep telling us about it. We really don't want to know.
As for you believing, we could care less. "Belief" is not a requirement to go hell or to the lake. When you die you're still going there whether you believe in it or not. Belief is only a requirement to get to heaven…
You seem to be confusing the word "hate" with "think is highly improbable and pretty silly". These are different things. Two rational people can disagree about something without "hating" each other. The religious folks seem to have a pretty strong monopoly on "hating" people.
LOL!! My evidence for my invisible fire-breathing dragon is that his name is Larry. That's all the evidence I need. Where's your evidence that he doesn't exist? Larry must exist if you can't prove he doesn't
Realbuckyball… If there is no God as you say, prove it? Show us your proof. Otherwise your word don't mean a thing. Either put up or shut up….
Opposing view is SO stupud he doesn't even know there was no "hell" in the Old Testament, and they did not believe in eternal life in Hebrew culture. He is also So Biblically uneducated he doesn't know even St. Paul thought eternal life was only for the saved. Typical idiot fundie spouting crap he doesn't have a clue about.
Realbuckyball said... "Opposing view is SO stupud he doesn't even know there was no "hell" in the Old Testament, and they did not believe in eternal life in Hebrew culture."
That's strange. A quick search of my bible shows "hell" to be listed a total of 31 times in the Old Testament. So stop embarrassing yourself about things you know nothing of...
OpposingView, you should work for the NFL cause you sure know how to move those goal posts.
Moby SChtick… Every time someone says "stupid" someone like you will stand up. Is your name "stupid"? Must be…
Even most teenagers have the ability to separate fantasy from reality – and know that fire-breathing dragons are not real – whereas people like Jesus Christ, or heaven and hell, are very much real. So why is it you lack the ability?…
The whole concept of hell is one of the many Christian absurdities that demonstrates what an ass hole Christian god would be if he existed. Seriously, torture for eternity as a "fair" punishment for, well, name your crimes, done in a short mortal lifetime? Torture at all, as punishment for any crime, is a human rights abuse.
So, Christians, kindly take your human rights abuser "god" ass hole of your bible tall tales and shove him. Ass hole is a fair term for such a jerk.
It's sad, but atheists cannot see the moral in the story of Anakin (which is grade-school easy to see) because they are consumed by the Dark Side and has been blinded from the truth...
Uh, no, OV, we just have reasoning skills that you apparently lack.
O.V. when are people like you going to figure out that you don't have any facts, evidence, or proof. You BELIEVE something. There is NO evidence that it's real.
Why is it you believers can't seem to figure that out? You can't prove it, so stop trying and be honest enough to admit it and have the guts to say that you simply have faith.
Bob… Just because you're a servant of Lucifer (whether you believe in Lucifer or not, is not a requirement) you don't have to come here showing us all your colors and showing us that you're headed to the lake. We really don't want to know. So just keep it to yourself and continue quietly on to hell…
2 Peter 2:12 – But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
OV is not genuine, imo. Trolling poe.
Bob… You have the very same reasoning skills your father Lucifer had, and look where that got him. So what makes you think you won't meet the same fate?…
Tal… It matters not what your definition of "hate" is. It only matters is God's definition of it is. For that is what you will be judged by…
OV, try actually carefully considering what I posted instead of threatening what your human rights abuser of a "god" might do according to your book of horrors bible.
Way better, and funnier vid is this classic:
Can anyone here imagine a Jesus that is not caucasion? The xenophobes, racists and klansmen are too stupid to realize people born in the middle east do not have light colored skin and hair.
To all those using canned arguments against evolution, I would just like to point out that it's a scientific theory and you likely don't understand what it says any more than you fully understand plate tectonics, quantum electromagnetism, germ theory of disease, cell theory, or the standard model of particle physics.
And if you are a professional scientist dealing with any of the theories I just mentioned, you should know that evolutionary biologists find evolution and common descent to be equally as evidenced as any other scientific theory (if not moreso).
I beleive in evolution. I just beleive God was behind it, starting it and guiding it; it was His opus.
I also believe I could do a better job at spelling "believe!"
And God proceeded to make the wild beast of the earth according to its kind and the domestic animal according to its kind and every moving animal of the ground according to its kind Gen 1:25
Freshmetro – I dont a trace of evolution on this passage, as God created everything according to its kind.
Do not be misled: God is not one to be mocked. For whatever a man is sowing, this he will also reap;8because he who is sowing with a view to his flesh will reap corruption from his flesh..." Gal 6:4,5
You do know that quoting your bible book accomplishes absolutely nothing
It's not like we're all going to say, "Aw crap Brampt is quoting the bible, we should all be christians!"
Also, you're using circular logic, "It's true because it says it is, because it says it is, because it says it is........."
You are a blatant fvcktard. Break free from mental slavery and join modern humans.
John 3 – Modern humans? lol the modern humen is reaping the consequences of what he has been sowing: Corruption, bad decisions...etc! Generated wars, famine, global warming, animal extinction...possible human extinction soon!!
Yep, there's nobody to blame or credit but ourselves.
Joking about anyone belittles them in our eyes and in the eyes of those who laugh at the jokes. It is a way of reducing an "enemy" to a common negative denominator while looking hip to one's listeners. But, it is dangerous. Black jokes, white jokes, blond jokes, Polish jokes, . . . are all on a downward spiral saying, "You're beneath me. I'm better than you," and finally, "You really don't matter, and I can exterminate you and everyone will be glad."
It is a terrible price to humanity to pay for a cheap laugh.
"It is a terrible price to humanity to pay for a cheap laugh."
hold that thought
Why did Bush use his military to invade Iraq?
Because he believed his god told him it was the right thing to do
People like you who rationalize delusion at the expense of tens of thousands of dead innocent civilians are truly disgusting.
You must be fun to hang out with at parties.
Why atheism makes no sense.
So there is no God which means there cannot be absolute evil or good. Nothing is inherently “good” or evil. The concept of good or evil is a human creation, it is something that society (men) created and defined. We define what we think is “good” or “evil” and try to police each other when there is no such thing except only in our minds. Life has no purpose or meaning. Purpose and meaning also is based on men’s own imagination of what they think it ought to be. How about love? It doesn’t exist because it is nothing more than hormonal reaction developed through evolution for survival. Love is also a figment of men’s imagination. How about justice? You could be the “nicest” guy or you could be a mass murderer but what does it all matter when you are dead? Mother Teresa is nothing more than a rotting flesh much like Hitler or any other dead animal. What is human? Human is nothing but an animal albeit a very smart animal. Your existence is pure chance; coincidence, an accident.
You take God away; you take away all meanings in life. Yes, I know you will say “I don’t need God to tell me how to live my life and what is right or wrong.” You are right because if there is no God then there is no right or wrong, there is no right way or wrong way to live one’s life (so why bother persecuting religions and telling people religion is wrong when there is no such thing as “wrong” or “right”?).
Anyway, you could do whatever you want as long as it makes you happy (actually, if persecuting religions makes you happy and by all means do it!) and it wouldn’t matter because ultimately when death comes you will all be no better than insects or plants. You will be a pile of dust remembering nothing and be gone forever into the everlasting eternal non-existence.
"So there is no God which means there cannot be absolute evil or good."
You failed right out of the box
You are assuming that your god, good and evil are dependent yet you have no evidence to support your assertion.
Why religion does not make sense....
If you don't know the answer you just claim "my god did it" and then act like it is real.
"You are assuming that your god, good and evil are dependent yet you have no evidence to support your assertion."
You likewise failed because in making such statement, you are assuming that God, good and evil are independent. Where is your evidence to support that assertion? Since there is no absolutism in the absence of God, aren't we all assuming? Then your assumptions are just as invalid as mine.
//You likewise failed because in making such statement, you are assuming that God, good and evil are independent.//
The positive assertion is that "good and evil" are determined by a magic, invisible being. The rejection of that assertion is not a positive claim and requires no evidence.
The burden of proof is on you.
Please provide the evidence
Any claim, negative or positive requires evidence. If that was not so then I can simply reject your statement without citing any evidence based on the grounds that it is also a "rejection of assertion"
You are simply wrong about that. The positive claim has the burden of proof. The dismissal of a positive claim due to lack of evidence does NOT require evidence in its own right. This is the entire premise of the "innocent until proven guilty" premise the American legal system uses.
So what are you proposing as an absolute moral standard ? The taking of a life ? Nope. Soldiers do it all the time, the State can do it in capital punishment. So what moral standard are you talking about ? Do you even know why and when, and how the moral law came into human culture ?
This statement is accurate:
"So there is no God which means there cannot be absolute evil or good"
Most of the rest of what you have written is not.
Without resorting to absurdum, what's wrong with moral relativism?
Jesus was a carpenter, Yeezy he laid beats
Muhammad nuff said
But he was a pedophile who was sodomized by camels and peformed oral on sheep. now that would be a movie worth watching.
Go listen to what God himself says... butgodcallsmedave.wordpress.com
Dave's not here man....
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