Editor’s note: Edward J. Blum is a historian of race and religion at San Diego State University. Paul Harvey is a history professor at the University of Colorado at Colorado Springs and runs the blog Religion in AmericanHistory. They co-authored “The Color of Christ: The Son of God and the Saga of Race in America.”
By Edward J. Blum and Paul Harvey, Special to CNN
Did you ever hear the one about Jesus being Mexican? Well, he was bilingual; he was constantly harassed by the government; and his first name was Jesus.
Or, perhaps Jesus was Irish? He loved a good story; he never kept a steady job; and his last request was for a drink.
Or maybe it’s possible that Jesus was Californian? He never cut his hair; he was always walking around barefoot; and he started a new religion.
You may not have heard these Jesus jokes, but you’ve heard others. They represent a comedic trend that has animated the United States since the 1970s. More and more comedy gimmicks hit on Jesus, his ethnicity and his relationship to politics. Laughing with (and at) the Lord is now fodder for major motion pictures, barroom comedy tours, graphic novels, t-shirts and bumper stickers.
How is it that a figure sacred to so many Americans has become the punch line of so many jokes? And why is it acceptable to poke fun at Jesus when other sacred figures are deemed off limits or there is hell to pay for mocking them?
The explanations are as numerous as the laughs.
Immigration shifts from the 1960s changed the ethnic and religious faces of the country so no tradition dominates today. The Christian right made such a moral spectacle of itself that it practically begged to be mocked. The emergence of “spiritual, but not religious” sensibilities left many Americans willing to denounce or laugh about traditional faith. The public rise of agnosticism, atheism, and secularism led to aggressive mockery as a form of persuasion.
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If we pause to consider why we’re laughing, we find that the comic bits delve into some of our thorniest and unresolved problems. The jokes reveal much more about us than they do Jesus. They speak to how our society has changed, how it hasn’t, and what we’re obsessed with.
The first public jokes about Jesus were heard in the 1970s. There had been religious jokes before this, but none about Jesus had become widely popular because organized Christianity held such authority. As the economic recession and problems of urban decay collided with civil rights exhaustion and new immigration, however, some Jesus jokes emerged.
Archie Bunker on “All in the Family” was the white racist and misogynist you loved to hate and hated to love. On one occasion, his son-in-law challenged Bunker’s rampant anti-Semitism with the claim, "Jesus was Jewish." Archie shot back immediately: "Only on his mother's side."
The “All in the Family” spin off “Good Times” featured a black family that lives in an inner-city housing project, probably Chicago's infamous Cabrini Green. On the show's second episode, the oldest son J. J. astounded everyone by painting Jesus as black. The younger son loves it, and says he learned all about Christ’s blackness from the local Nation of Islam.
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As the family debates whether this black Jesus should be hung on the wall in place of their white Jesus, they “miraculously” receive $140 from the Internal Revenue Service. Feeling blessed, the family placed the painting on its living room wall, and the elated J. J. shouted his tagline, "Dyno-mite!”
From the 1980s to the present, the number of prominent Jesus jokes has multiplied like loaves and fishes:
• In “Talladega Nights,” Ricky Bobby and his family debated which Jesus to pray to (“baby Jesus in golden fleece diapers,” “grown-up Jesus,” “ninja Jesus”). Their overall hope is that Jesus will help them continue their extravagant lifestyle.
• “South Park” featured Jesus as a weak-kneed host of a local talk show who boxes the devil.
• “Family Guy” had Jesus perform magic tricks that wowed his ancient audience.
• “The Colbert Report” placed a gun in Christ’s hand and had him defend conservatives against the liberal “War on Easter.”
• “Saturday Night Live” let Jesus chastise Tim Tebow for using the Lord’s name in vain and ended the bit by declaring that the Mormons have it right.
One unforgettable scene in the rather forgettable recent film “21 Jump Street” may explain why Jesus has become such a joke.
Before Jonah Hill’s character returns to high school as an undercover cop, he prays to a small, crucified “Korean Jesus.” Down on his knees, he says: “Hey Korean Jesus, I don’t know if you only cater to Korean Christians or if you even exist, no offense. I’m just really freaked out about going back to high school. It was just so f***ing hard the first time. … I just really don’t want to f*** this up. Sorry for swearing so much. The end? I don’t really know how to end the prayer.”
The hilarity of the moment only makes sense in our time. Hill's character is unchurched and agnostic, but wants spiritual power to guide him. We can laugh at how agnosticism and being “spiritual, but not religious,” leave him uncertain of what to say, how to say it, and even how to end.
We can also laugh at how ethnic factors color his approach. By wondering if Korean Jesus cares only about Korean problems, Hill pokes fun at the issue which was made a media spectacle in 2008, when the Rev. Jeremiah Wright could be heard preaching that “Jesus was a poor black man” as part of his support for Barack Obama. What good is a God who only cares for those who look like him?
The Jesus jokes not only reveal how tangled our religious, racial, economic and political positions have become, but also how many outlets there are for the jokes. In these tense times, when presidential hopefuls point fingers at one another and families unfriend one another over political and cultural differences, laughing may be one way to talk about the problems without killing one another.
The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Edward J. Blum and Paul Harvey.
Atheism is a illogical. You have no information that God does not exist; yet you believe God does not exist. You have no way to search everywhere in all dimensions to verify that God does not exist.
At least the agnostic is logical by saying "I don't know."
You have no information that a god exists. Atheism is not belief. It's a "dismissal of claims" of believers. Do you "believe" there is no 1957 Chevy orbiting Pluto ? No. You dismiss the idea as nonsense. Just like gods are nonsense.
Nobody needs to disprove it.
You are illogical. You have no way of disproving the existence of Zeus, you have no way to search everywhere in all dimensions to verify Zeus does not exist. How's that grab ya?
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." – Stephen Roberts
Christian, spend a bit of time learning more about what atheism is. Your knowledge of the subject is lacking.
say what, I do not need to prove that Zeus exists, because I have not made a claim about whether Zeus exists. Genetic information shows design. Random events do not create information, random events create noise. Genetic information is proof that God exists. There is a creator. How do you naturally select from nothing to start the whole life process to begin with? Biblical prophesy is 100% correct. History was written in advance. Only God could do that.
No, genetic information does not prove "design." Look up "cellular automata."
Bob, Atheism is by definition the belief that God does not exist. It is not agnosticism. If you think that God might exist but you doubt it, then you are agnostic.
Christian – You miss the point, as I suspected you would. Inability to prove something does not prove its "opposite."
How does genetic information show design? Now you are making grand claims. If you want to go the regression route, which it appears you do, what created God? Why do you get to stop there?
All you have is an argument from ignorance. It's another logical fallacy. "I don't understand how this could be, therefore God did it."
Christianity is illogical. You have no information that god exists anymore than you have information that santa claus exists, or the tooth fairy exists. To claim that genetic information is proof of god is assinine at best. You make ridiculous claims like biblical prophecy is 100% correct only proving that you have NO PROOF at all!
Christian, you can start your reading and learning here:
The bible, being self-contradictory, actually defeats its own claims.
I don't know if a god exists...
but I am rather certain yours doesn't.
I know about cellular automata. Applying that to life has already been proven wrong. The building blocks making up DNA can not exist in any environment ever know to have been on earth at anytime. The basic building blocks break down with H2O, O2, and UV. It gets even worse, If you have no O2 and anytime than you would have even more UV because you would have no O3 (Ozone) to block the UV. Do you understand?
Atheism and agnosticism are two different things. A house can also be a home. I'm atheist because I LACK belief in any gods, and I'm agnostic because I have no idea if any gods exist. I'm both, and most atheists are also agnostic. Theism and atheism deal with belief (have or not have). Gnosticism and agnosticism deal with knowledge (claim to have or not claim to have). Try educating yourself or continue to be seen a fool.
Missing Link, How do you know That I do not have proof that Jesus exists? Let me put this in perspective for you: How do you know that I exist?
All you have is complexity. Complexity does not imply design. You know this fact or it's time you did. If you think that genetics prove design than demonstrate it with logical argumentation, but we both know it'd come down to, "Oh, but gee, gosh, well, it's just so nifty, Moby!!" "It sure is cool" does not mean "it was designed."
As to how life came about or how the mechanism of genetic encoding came about, we don't know. It's better to be honest and say, "We don't know," then to take wild guesses and say, "Big invisible sky wizard did it by chanting magic spellz!!!!" Why make sh!t up rather than be honest?
realbuckyball, How do you know that I do not know that God exists? I do not need to have the ability to look every where to find God. God could tell me He exist right? How do you know that did not happen?
Atheist are illogical because they claim to have proven a negative. Most agnostics doubt that God exist, but have chosen a more logical decision to conclude that they do not know if He does or not. What is the difference between an atheist and an agnostic? On has over generalized and the other has not. Over generalization is a logical error.
You god has just as much probabilty of existing as Zues does.
Christian – Now you are really just making stuff up. Nobody has claimed to prove a negative. That's the type of stuff the faithful try to make non-believers do. Then, when it's clearly stated that it's not possible, by definition – you claim some sort of bizarre victory and dance away into the sunset.
No, dipsh!t, atheism does NOT say that "god does not exist." Theism = belief; atheism = disbelief. Disbelief does not have anything to do with existence; it has to do with belief. If you don't believe in unicorns, you're not claiming for sure, 100% that they don't exist, you're simply saying that you don't believe that they exist, right? See if you can keep up.
Now, gnosticism = claims of esoteric knowledge spiritual knowledge; agnosticism = not claims of esoteric knowledge. As an agnostic atheist, I lack belief in god and I do not claim to have spiritual knowledge. Get it?
(look up the words "typical" and "atypical" for a reference to the "a" prefix meaning "not")
say what, genetic information is not the reason I think God exists. You do not know why I think that God exists. I have not made an illogical claim. I know that God made genetic information. You have no idea how I know this. I am telling you that it is proof that God exists because. How do you know I exist?
"You have no idea how I know this. I am telling you that it is proof that God exists because. "
No you d-i-p-s-h-i-t.. if you had proof you'd go right to the president of your nation and ask it to be revealed to all the world.
Here you are with just empty words just trying to emotionally comfort yourself in your delusion.
I think I'm going to call poe on Christian.
Atheists are always running away from the truth. It's impossible for them to accept it unless the spirit of God
begans to work inside them.
Are you an altar boy? Is your priest working inside of you?
You don't know how silly you sound. It's like someone trying to prove that the tooth fairy exists.
Well said Bob.
This is silly talk.
You know it's for you to prove that the tooth fairly does not exist.
Doomed plus Bob: two brains with but a single cell between them.
@Jesus. you're not any better, you atheists are trying to prove that God don't exist. Or is it that you think he doesn't exist without bringing forward a proof. I thought atheism was based on proving and evidences.
Where did you get the idea that atheists are trying to "prove God don't (sic) exist"? I don't need to prove a thing. The burden of proof is on you. You're the one claiming something exists. If you can show proof, do so. I've never said god doesn't exist; just that I see no evidence for one.
Doomed, why did you post this link: http://www.nobeliefs.com/comments13.htm, and then claim you read the entire thing and it was about atheists when it isn't?
What do you not understand about the stupidity of your logic. If a person must believe in something that hasn't been proven to NOT exist, then you must, in accordance with your own logic, believe in fairys, goblins, Zeus, unicorns, and any other being that hasn't been proven to not exist. Or did I just go way, way, way over your head?
I like how Doomed posts as someone else then comes in a couple minutes later and says "well said". Curiously like OpposingView as well as Bob.... hmmm....
theists are always claiming that THEIR "truth" is the correct "truth".
Wow – try the studying the English language first. Then come back and talk to us about your beliefs.
Atheists Are Very Sad People...
Atheists are very sad people. And the reason they are so sad is because they have no peace inside. Despite all their claims and arrogant bluster about we're the one's living in a fantasy and they're the ones living in reality, the real truth is, atheists live each day of their lives in fear and they have no peace. They live with the fear of uncertainty and with the fear they might be wrong and with the fear there really might be a God – and if so, a heaven and a hell. But because the consequence of such things are too horrible for them to contemplate, atheists have chosen to deceive themselves by saying over and over again like a little child – "there is no God, there is no heaven, and there is no hell". Just saying it over and over makes them feel better. They're like little children playing silly games and hoping against hope that if they say it enough times, it really might come true…
That is also the reason you see so many of them hanging around religious forums and commenting on religious articles. You can only wonder that if they don't believe in God and don't believe in hell, then why don't they just go their way and be happy? Answer: It's because they have no peace inside and they need to congregate here so they can hear others say the same thing – that there is no God, there is no heaven and there is no hell. The more they hear others say it, the more it makes them feel less alone. Atheists loves it whenever someone puts Christians down or belittles the Christian God or says it's just made up stories. That makes them feel better, and makes them feel they're not so bad after all. They're merely seeking peace for the lack of peace they have inside. Nonetheless, atheists live each day of their lives in fear they might be wrong and in fear they might end up in hell, even though they will quickly tell others they don't believe in hell. But they are liars. Deep down, there is a part of them that does indeed fear going to hell…
But the one thing atheists don't get and has ever realized is that we Christians truly are happy. We're not just faking happiness or faking our peace, but we really are happy inside and really have found peace. And that peace is the love and peace of Jesus Christ. The love and peace of knowing that we are saved. The love and peace of knowing that if we're killed in an accident or if we go to sleep at night and don't wake up that our life after that fact has been taken care of. We're not worried about dying or going to hell or to the lake, nor do we even think about it. And that is a peace you cannot buy with money. And you cannot find it in women or booze or drugs. It is a peace and a comfort in your soul that only cometh from Jesus Christ. That only cometh from being saved. And it is a peace that atheists will never know…and is impossible for them to know… so long as they are atheists…
So much sadder is the one you're living – trying to convince yourself that you think that we do. So funny.
Very well said, you can't be any closer to the truth than this.
Exactly..... If the atheists don't believe in God why do they put up such a stink about something they don't believe in?
Why do you need to keep on trying to convince others that your god exists? lol
Why not go for Zeus? Have you proved that Zeus exists? XD
Keep up that false hope and fear. I can tell it is doing wonders for you.
You religious idiots love to play the emotional games.. and when you yourself get really scared... lol
Lighten up you cvnts. You only get this one life.
You won't even kill yourself to get to heaven because some men decided that it would ruin the brainwashing.
What a great world this will be when people stop living in fear of some imaginary guy in the sky. They will do things because it is right not because they are afraid to burn forever.
Answer, that would mean fewer members (and money) if people killed themselves.
OV, why do you have to lie to try to make your point? There is absolutely no basis for your silly assertions. None. If there were, you'd cite it.
Answer... You said..."Why do you need to keep on trying to convince others that your god exists? lol"...
That's precisely what we want to know. Why do you atheists love to hang around religious forums and spend your every breath trying to convince us believers "there is no God?" LOL!...
It's because atheists have no peace inside. And they need to come here and hear others put believers down. LOL...
So you did a poll of atheists ? Either you DID one, or you are a liar. Lets see the data ? How exactly do you knwo we are "sad". Most atheists are ecstatic to be rid of the b ullsh1t.
My life is dedicated to providing your kind with education. The education to free your sorry b-u-t-t-s from your fear.
By the way, Brophy, if you're so happy and full of peace, then why do you troll here? If you're such a phenomenal Christian, why are you sitting on your rump behind a computer screen instead of helping the homeless, feeding the hungry, visiting the lonely?
Any time I hear someone say "All [group of people I don't like] are [defective in some convenient way for my argument]," I dismiss it out of hand. I don't think this is any different.
Are all atheists...well, whatever it was you said? Scared of there being a God? Scared of hell? No. In fact, I'd argue that you have it backwards. What scares me, as an atheist, is the idea that there is no god.
I mean, I love living. I love this life. I love my family. I love my kids. The idea of being without my family - of being absolutely nothing, just a candle snuffed out - is terrifying. To think that we are all just bags of meat, and that when our brains fail (as they will), that it really is us in that coffin, dead, never to rise or think again? That's terrifying. More terrifying than hell, in fact - where you would at least exist.
Where does religious peace come from? From believing - from hoping against hope - that you are a mystical being who will rise to a pleasant afterlife, see your family again, and live on forever. If, tomorrow, you were to show me proof that God exists, and that he will welcome us into the afterlife, I would throw the biggest party you could imagine. I would jump for joy. I would not be afraid - I'd be thrilled. In fact, if you can prove that hell is real, I will even be thrilled by that - it would mean that magic is real. I ache for someone to show me some basis for believing the fantasy of eternal life. It's a familiar ache, an ache that was born with the first ape that realized that he, too, would die. It's the ache that built religions.
But...I see absolutely no basis to believe in God or hell or any of that. I've never seen even an atom's worth of evidence for his existence, much less in the form any religion suggests. His followers have consistently failed to make any convincing argument - and, in fact, their arguments are so dissembling and pedantic that they tend to convince me that they have to be wrong. And so as much as it scares me, I have to believe the evidence. Any "peace" religion could offer me in the face of that truth would be a lie. Though I could invent for myself a comforting tale of a father figure who was going to save me from death, I just can't. Because it's just not true.
Actually as an athiest I am much more relaxed and fearless than I ever was as a christian. I grew up paronoid that there was this angry guy watching everything I did, said, and thought. I was full of anxiety because none of it made any sense and I worried that I was doing something to upset god. I was fearful that I would be left behind from the rapture, that I would burn forever because I didnt' feel god, know god, understand what he wanted from me. I had a ton of questions no one could give me a logical answer too. I never got the same out of passegas that anyone wlse did, and the preacher always spoke of thing that just didn't jive logically or with my personal morals (I don't cut off friends and family just because their religious and political beliefs are different) Basiclly I was always fearful of what i said or did, always worried that I had offended god especially since I could never reconcile his exsistence.
A preacher adviced I read the bible for my answers and I did. It took me a couple of months but I kept notes on pad of paper or I did research on stuff. In the end, I was agnostic by time I hit Moses and fully athiest before I finished the OT. Coming to the ful realization that all of this is nothing more then wonderful fairytales was liberating. I stopped worring about what will happen after I died and started living my life right now.
If you think it gave me permission to go wh ore around and start killing people, it didn't. Why would I want to hurt someone or steal their stuff? Why would I risk disease? Ants don't need a bible to live in a harmonious community, neither do I. I respect others and their stuff/space just as I would like others to respect mine. I volunteer and give to those in need because that is how a community lives and thrives. The strong help the weak ....
@OpView: "Atheists are very sad people."
You must know many. We like to party.
"And the reason they are so sad is because they have no peace inside. "
For this statement to be true the first part must be, but it isn't, so it's not. Got it?
"Despite all their claims and arrogant bluster"
You mean despite all our intelligent and correct claims?
"about we're the one's living in a fantasy and they're the ones living in reality"
Yes, religious people are deluded. Talking to imaginary beings is a delusion. It's the definition of the word.
"the real truth is, atheists live each day of their lives in fear and they have no peace."
again with the misuse of "truth". Truth is a fact, not an opinion. Your opinion is that we live in fear and have no peace. Being an atheist, I disagree and believe you are projecting your fear of living in a god-free world. It scares you, so you assume we must be scared.
"They live with the fear of uncertainty and with the fear they might be wrong and with the fear there really might be a God – and if so, a heaven and a hell."
Again, no. We do not believe in the nonsense so we have no fear of it. It sounds like YOU are questioning your faith and wrestling with the fear of being wrong should you choose to not believe.
"But because the consequence of such things are too horrible for them to contemplate, atheists have chosen to deceive themselves by saying over and over again like a little child – "there is no God, there is no heaven, and there is no hell". Just saying it over and over makes them feel better. They're like little children playing silly games and hoping against hope that if they say it enough times, it really might come true…"
lol, if anyone's being childlike it'd be those talking to imaginary beings. It's cute when you're 4 but when you get older it is known as insanity. People who believe in hell are the only ones afraid of hell.
"That is also the reason you see so many of them hanging around religious forums and commenting on religious articles."
I'm here because I've had enough from you people. You're holding back progress and you're a threat to the world.
"Nonetheless, atheists live each day of their lives in fear they might be wrong and in fear they might end up in hell, even though they will quickly tell others they don't believe in hell. But they are liars. Deep down, there is a part of them that does indeed fear going to hell…"
Continually repeating the untrue does not magically make it true.
"But the one thing atheists don't get and has ever realized is that we Christians truly are happy."
There's no debating that ignorance is bliss.
"We're not just faking happiness or faking our peace, but we really are happy inside and really have found peace. ... It is a peace and a comfort in your soul that only cometh from Jesus Christ. That only cometh from being saved."
Your peace cometh from a security blanket. And we're back to what actually is childish. Religious folks have supplanted Jesus for thumb sucking and bankies. It soothes you, like a wee baby. You either choose to live courageously in knowledge or "peacefully" in ignorance. You're chosen the coward's path, congrats!
Gawd… You said… "What a great world this will be when people stop living in fear of some imaginary guy in the sky. They will do things because it is right not because they are afraid to burn forever."…
Man would have no idea what right or wrong was if it hadn't been for that "imaginary guy in the sky". God established the precepts of what was right and wrong back in the Garden of Eden. But not to worry. Just you continue on believing he's imaginary. And on some imaginary future date you're going to die and go to an imaginary hell. And in that hell, you will be cast into an imaginary fire. And in that fire, the imaginary flames will still feel just as real. But not to worry. For people like you, just keep on pretending they are "imaginary"….
LukeWarm... You said... "Actually as an athiest I am much more relaxed and fearless than I ever was as a christian."...
You are also a liar. And who are you trying to convince, yourself or me? If you're not saved then within your soul you live in fear each day of your life. God designed the soul that way. You cannot avoid it. You live in fear of going to hell, despite what you say with your mouth...
What kind of azzhole tells somebody that they're not feeling what they claim to be feeling?!? As an atheist, I agree with Lukewarm's sentiments completely. I was a deep, deep "spirit-filled" fundamentalist for far, far too long and yes, it did take me a lot of time to get over my fear of hell, but now, as an atheist, I have zero fear of eternal torment. None.
LukeWarm, great story, thx for sharing!
Dang I had a nice reply to youy AV that didn't get posted. Must have used a taboo word which I tried hard to avoid. Here is the cliff notes. Off depression meds and ulcer meds. Don't get anxiety attacks anymore. I no longer try to solve all my problems by begging a god to help me, I look too myself. I became financially sound, and became much more tolerant of people who make different life choices. I live my life my way and let others live theirs and I have a much bigger social circle because of it.
You don't know me or my life stuggles. All you have is a book that is a collection of writing from a bunch of different men over a few thousand year period. Stories that have been translated and re-translated over thousands of years. Stories that have been so heavily debated that there are houndreds of different sects of christians each with completely different dogma. You can't get two preachers to agree 100% on the meanting of every scripture in the whole book. Yet you feel you know whether or not I am happy or fearful.
"If the atheists don't believe in God why do they put up such a stink about something they don't believe in?"
Because they are wary of the influence of the faithful on our secular lasws. Is that too difficult to understand?
@OV............. Man, you are one ignorant moron!...... can you hear it? can you hear it? everyone laughing at you??..
........... loud and clear!....
"If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth ,no sacrifice for sins is left,but only
a fearful expectation of judgement and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of
Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
The life that you scared cretins lead are hilarious. XD
@ Answer: You should be scared.
The Israelites knew God as "I AM WHO I AM", and by the associated names "I AM your provider", "I AM your healer", "I AM your peace" and "I AM your righteousness". Jesus claimed to be the Messiah, the eternal Son of God. His claims to be the full revelation, in himself, of the God "I AM" are truly astonishing. Please repent.
You're that scared of death?
@Answer, you shouldn't be scared of death, but to the life after this one.
Well you lead the way. Kill yourself tonight and let me know that you've reach it. Go ahead.
The Israelites thought Popeye was god?
Women are inferior to men
A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. (NIV)
1 Timothy 2:11-12
That is some imaginary god these people love to worship.
A woman is NOT inferior to man. Woman was created as a helper and as a "help meet" for man, but that doesn't make her inferior. A woman has a role to play just like a man has a role. Just because a person is fulfilling the role God designed them for, that doesn't make them inferior. The only thing inferior is your understanding of the scriptures...
OpposingView is trying to tell you that you can't understand these made-up stories.
Glory to God the Father, Jesus Christ His Son, and the Holy Spirit. This ink doesn't run.
Shut the F UP
I think you mean "Big Daddy," "Jeezy Chreezy" and "The Big Sp.o.ok."
You are a lost cause. Go give 10% of your income to the child molesters so you won't go to hell.
Did you read that entire article, Doomed? It's good!
Thanks for posting that Doomed. I enjoyed the ending.
@Moby, yes i did, but it's just to show you that those psychopaths are everywhere and not only religious people, there' s plenty of them every where including atheists.
So is Doomed lying in the first part of that sentence or the latter part? Hmmmm....
Doomed, go read the entire article. It has nothing to do with atheists.
LOL, just like a christain to misunderstand a text because he didn't read it all, but claims to understand it perfectly; meanwhile, the atheists HAVE read the entire text and actually do understand what it says and WHY it said it in precisely that way.
Read the article again, dipsh!t, then read your bible again with a more open mind. I have confidence you'll get it on a reread of the web link, but not so much on a reread of the bible.
All atheists should check out the following video. If you can't believe one of your own then there is no hope for you...
Baloney. Anyone can have strange thoughts in near-death, when the brain is short of O2, + other problems. Way better vid:
How come Hindus never see Jesus in their near death experiences?
Try this one jerky. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHbYJfwFgOU
Where is your proof of that Blessed The Cheesemaker?
"Where is your proof of that Blessed The Cheesemaker?"
–Funny as hell... a faith-head now asking for "proof". When others ask them for proof they resort to their faith.
Well I will respond the way christians do when we ask for proof....
'prove me wrong'
You guys like that argument so well I am sure that is acceptable.
Atheists always asked for proof and when asked they can't offer any themselves. How hypocrites of you.
Yup. It's just Brophy again.
Doomed, If you claim to have a dragon in your garage we don't have to provide proof you don't.
Bob... As I said, some people are beyond hope and beyond redemption and will not be saved. If you can't believe a fellow atheist then there is no hope for you....
You don't want to believe your fellow atheist because what he said is against what you WANT to believe. You WANT your fellow atheist to be wrong, even though he's one of you, all because his experience was against what you WANT to believe. Therefore, you will constantly find excuses not to believe it. But your finding excuses will not change a thing. He experienced what he experienced and you cannot change it. It wasn't because of drugs – and you cannot change it. And all the wishing in the world is not going to change it. You can either accept what he said or not. But your unbelief of what he said is not going to change it...
The only thing you are showing us is that some people will not accept the truth no matter who it comes from – even when it comes from one of them, a fellow atheist. For some people, there really is no hope...
Bob… Show me even one person who says that Near Death Experiences are caused by drugs or a lack of oxygen to the brain… and I'll show you someone who has NEVER ACTUALLY HAD a Near Death Experience (Bob Caring included). Such people don't know what they are talking about….
We have a pretty clear understanding of near death brain truama: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=peace-of-mind-near-death
End Religion... All you have a clear understanding of is "lies'. And that's no surprise. When it's your turn to go and you're on your death bed, you'll then know the truth...
OV, we have a clear understanding of facts in our shared universe. Lies by definition are what constitutes the bible. When it's my turn to go I will be looking forward to whatever grand adventure awaits, however it appears it won't be an adventure of any sort but instead nothingness. As for truth, you've demonstrated no grasp of the idea.
Jesus jokes? What is this world coming to? If you believe in the Lord or not, he still cares.
Do you realize how silly you sound? The tooth fairy loves you too.
"I tell you, whoever acknowledges me before men, the Son of Man will also acknowledge him before the
angels of God. But he who disowns me before men will be disowned before the angels of God."
Kill people that work on Saturday
You have six days each week for your ordinary work, but the seventh day must be a Sabbath day of complete rest, a holy day dedicated to the LORD. Anyone who works on that day must be put to death. (NLT)
I love it when people quote a fictional book as if it were true.
Dana... And I've seen no proof from you that it is not true. Please provide proof please...
I just love it when people spout their "own personal opinions" as though it is truth....
OV, what are you, maybe 11? We learn in high school one cannot prove a negative.
There is not a single shred of evidence to indicate that any of the supernatural events listed in the bible actually occurred. That's pretty compelling evidence to those of use who think rationally.
End Religion… That's the same old weak excuse all atheists use. If you have no proof then you have no basis for an argument. Because your own person opinion don't mean a thing… Nuff said.
OV, even religious debaters understand the principle. Your insistence that not being able to prove a negative reveals something is either disingenuous or middle school level intelligence. Your argument is a fallacy discounted in the 1950's. Learn about Russell's teapot if you want anyone to take you seriously.
"Uncle OV, uncle OV.... tells us the story about the little red devil man with the horns and pitchfork again!.... we like to be scared..
Hey, isn't this discussion supposed to be about humor? I think God sent the atheists in to punish us for having a laugh about Him.
That's what i did.
Your book of fiction is the funny thing. Try reading a science book sometime. You might learn something.
Science is never conclusive, they are just theories that changes over all the time. Nothing concrete here.
Yes, we are sent by God, so be respectful, we are just doing our divine job as part of the plan that works in mysterious ways.
Science is the most concrete thing in the whole freaking world. If you disagree, how about you challenge gravity, jump from a 10th floor, and see if science position on gravity has changed.
Speaking of gravity, keep adoring your atheist Newton which when sat at the foot of tree an apple hit him on the head and then he won a Nobel Prize for saying what goes up must come down, how stupid this is, you don't need a college degree to figure that out.
Do you have any idea how utterly idiotic you sound, Doomed?
Isaac Newton won a Nobel Prize?? Bwahahaha! He died in 1727 and the Nobel Prizes were established in 1901, genius.
doomed wasnts kok. I can feel it. I hope its a girl, but if not, its ok too, all feels the same
I have yet to see, a single chapter in "the Bible" purporting "God", or "Jesus" as its Author. I do however, see any number of people claiming to know the truth, whether 2000 years ago, or this evening. Mankind will ALWAYS attempt to mainstream their own personal vision of said truth....
It was written by some guys a long time ago to explain things they did not understand and to get money from the weak-minded people in society.
Did you hear about the televangelist who gave away all his money to live like Jesus?
That will never happen.
I don't understand the authorities saying "We don't negotiate with terrorists."
What are they talking about? I just managed to get a free can of Coke with my shish-kebab.
Q. Did you hear about the Muslim family living in the US who are making every effort they can to integrate themselves into the local community, thereby contributing to worldwide peace and harmony and a greater understanding of their faith?
A. Nope me neither!
Q. How do you get a Pakistani woman pregnant?
A. Dress her up as a 10-year old boy.
I thought atheists were the one who support same s-e-x relations.
blow me doomed, just blow me. I promise it wont make you gay
Not having an imaginary friend does not equal believing in gay marriage.
I want to try to make doomed pregnant thru his culo
What is the difference between a roll of toilet paper and the Koran?
A. One is great for wiping your butt and the other comes in 2-ply.
Love that one!!
How do you get Mohammedout of a shower?
A. Turn the water on
Why can't I eat M&M's?
Because I have holes in my hands.
Why do atheists have to think all the time? Because they have no brain to reach to a conclusion.
Doomed, you truly are, to a life of infinite stupidity.
Religious people don't have to think. They will believe whatever you tell them.
Doomed: can you deep throat my kok?
Hello Tom Tom, i see you're still in your parents basement and getting support from them again. Leave atheism and get a job and find an apartment, it will keep you busy and away from religion comments board and away from your computer.
Poor Brophy. Still trying to cut it and failing miserably. When did you acquire CNN and crown yourself Grand Poo-bah of the blogosphere, Brophy?
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