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Rubio ignites debate with answer about creationism
November 19th, 2012
04:19 PM ET

Rubio ignites debate with answer about creationism

By Dan Merica and Eric Marrapodi, CNN

Washington (CNN) – Florida Sen. Marco Rubio attempted to walk the line between science and faith-based creationism in remarks that that have provoked the ire of liberal blogs, leaving the door open to creationism in responding to a recent question about the age of the Earth.

When GQ’s Michal Hainey asked Rubio, in an interview released Monday, “How old do you think the Earth is,” the rising Republican star described the debate about the planet’s age as “one of the great mysteries.”

“I'm not a scientist, man,” Rubio told the interviewer. “I can tell you what recorded history says, I can tell you what the Bible says, but I think that's a dispute amongst theologians and I think it has nothing to do with the gross domestic product or economic growth of the United States.”

“Whether the Earth was created in seven days, or seven actual eras,” Rubio continued, “I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries.”

Most scientists agree that the Earth is 4.5 billion years old and the universe is 14.5 billion years old. Christian Young Earth Creationists, on the other hand, argue that the weeklong account of God creating the Earth and everything in it represents six 24-hour periods (plus one day of rest) and date the age of the Earth between 6,000 and 10,000 years.

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Left-leaning blogs and sites like ThinkProgress and Huffington Post jumped on Rubio’s comments, with the Zack Beauchamp from ThingProgress writing, “To suggest we can’t know how old the Earth is, then, is to deny the validity of these scientific methods altogether — a maneuver familiar to Rubio, who also denies the reality of anthropogenic climate change.”

Rubio is regarded as a possible Republican presidential candidate in 2016, though the senator says his visit last week to Iowa, home of the first-in-the-nation presidential caucuses, had “nothing to do with 2016.”

His response to GQ’s age of the Earth query has also provoked questions about his political aspirations. Dave Weigel of Slate writes, “How can you read that and not think ‘Iowa’? ” The state is the first to hold a presidential caucus in 2016.

Forty-six percent of Americans believe that God created humans in their present form at one point within the past 10,000 years, according to a survey released by Gallup in June. That number has remained unchanged for the past 30 years, since 1982, when Gallup first asked the question on creationism versus evolution.

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The second most common view is that humans evolved with God's guidance - a view held by 32% of respondents. The view that humans evolved with no guidance from God was held by 15% of respondents.

The Gallup poll has not specifically asked about views on the age of the Earth.

Rubio attends a Baptist church in southern Florida but also considers himself “a practicing Catholic.”

He was born Catholic, but his family converted to Mormonism when Rubio was 8 years old, according to Rubio’s recent memoir. The family left its LDS faith behind when it moved from Nevada back to Florida and Rubio was confirmed in the Catholic Church.

Catholic teaching is that science and faith are not at odds with one another and it is possible to believe what scientists say about the Earth’s age and in God. But many evangelical churches, including Baptist ones, promote a version of creationism.

When CNN reached out to Rubio’s Baptist church in Florida on Monday, a person answering the phone would not comment on its teachings about the Earth’s age and said that a church representative was unlikely to be available in the near term.

During the GQ interview, Rubio argued that “there are multiple theories out there on how the universe was created and I think this is a country where people should have the opportunity to teach them all.”

For the past 30 years, the “equal-time argument” –- the idea that Creationism taught alongside evolution -– has been popular method for Creationists to advance their cause. In the late 1980s, some state legislatures passed bills that promoted the idea of a balanced treatment of both ideas in the classroom.

In 1987, the issue made it all the way to the Supreme Court, where a Louisiana "equal-time law" was struck down. The court ruled that teaching creationism in public school classrooms was a violation of the Establishment Cause in the Constitution, which is commonly referred to as the separation of church and state.

- Dan Merica

Filed under: Creationism • Politics

soundoff (6,211 Responses)
  1. Welch

    Another example of why I am so glad the Stupid Party did not win. Utter nonsense.

    November 20, 2012 at 5:42 pm |
  2. EZdidit

    Reminds me of a headline I saw in The Onion. It was something like: "3 Eminent Biologists and 'Growing Pains' Kirk Cameron Weigh in on Evolution".

    November 20, 2012 at 5:35 pm |
  3. Let's get real

    "Leaders" like Rubio who promote gospel like this are a key reason why our education system is failing and why we are falling behind other nations in science and technology. Even the catholic church (who once condemned Galilei for saying that the earth rotated around the sun) agrees that the earth is about 4.5 Billion years old, and the universe around 14 Billion years. And btw, most Islamic scholars also do.

    November 20, 2012 at 5:35 pm |
    • jean

      That is some fancy dancing Rubio is doing! PS, Never heard of a "practising Catholic" going to the Baptist church on a regular basis. Seems Rubio can't make up hi mind about that either or is trying to cover all bases/

      November 20, 2012 at 5:42 pm |
    • DJ

      Our education is definitely not failing because of what Marco Rubio said or any religious fanatic.

      November 20, 2012 at 6:28 pm |
    • nadinesh

      @DJ: oh yes it is failing for that very reason! There are actually states in this benighted country where it is *required* to include fallacious pseudo-scientific claptrap in *textbooks* giving an "alternate" "theory" for man's evolution. If that isn't totally crackpot, what is? We can't find enough American citizens to even TEACH science (or math) in our middle and high schools! There are even instances where teachers who do teach proper science to their high school students are threatened with physcial harm or dismissal! In America! This bias also applies to history. In a few states (Tennessee, of course), they even restrict what can be taught in American history! I'm amazed you think this contributes to a well-educated populace. Well, obviously it doesn't, since 46% are unashamed to call themselves fools.

      November 20, 2012 at 7:14 pm |
  4. delos

    Republican seem to have no scence of honor, They either have the nose up some bible thumpers but or up isreal but, which is a good thing just hoping the christian soldiers grab their penis extenders and get on over to the M.E. and defend the holyland (oxymorion) and take that ass's to there belove rapture. Then we can really move on in the USA. see yea SUCKERS.

    November 20, 2012 at 5:31 pm |
    • The Eternal Satyr

      Epic fail!

      November 20, 2012 at 5:34 pm |
  5. Libertarian Atheist

    This guy answered the question with the BS he read in the invisible sky daddy guide book. Disqualified, dishonored, disgraced.

    Now watch the GOP run this clown, just watch them do it! They never learn!

    November 20, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
    • DaveNTexas

      So it's not ok for Rubio to run for president because he believes in God,but it's ok for Obama to run and he claims to be a christian? Doesn't that mean that Obama believes in the same things that Rubio believes? But I guess that all changes when you run as a Democrat. Interesting.

      November 20, 2012 at 6:29 pm |
    • nadinesh

      @DaveNTexas: Nobody said it wasn't okay for this nitwit to run for President. Fat chance, but it's up to him, isn't it? And who gives a bleep if he does or does not believe in God? And I don't care if our President is a Christian. I voted for him anyway. That's how much I care. But to try to keep dumb, uneducated, illiterate people soothed by pandering to their ignorance and refusing to confirm a basic scientific fact because it may challenge the beliefs of some of those he's targeting as voters - well, that's just sleazy. If he really believed this crap, he'd say so. He didn't. But that doesn't suddenly make him Galileo - just another repugnant politician, appealing to the lowest common-denominator in the electorate.

      November 20, 2012 at 7:20 pm |
  6. Cp

    The confusion is the starting point. You see when Adam was created he was not a baby or egg/spirm. He was a full grown man, let's say 25 or 30 years old, instantly. On day one of creation a scientest would look at the man and say he's 25 or 30 years old, but really he's a day old. In like manner the earth, scientifically, looks billions of years old but in reality it was just a day old as well. So both are right: Bible: Adam/earth was one day old technically hence earth is only 6,000 years old and science is correct to say Adam was 25 or 30 years old and in like manner the earth billions of years.

    November 20, 2012 at 5:26 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Why would god intentionally trick us? What a dovchebag!

      November 20, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
    • rep

      so in other words, it's magic.
      thanks for clearing that up.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:33 pm |
    • Jesus Christ Your Lord

      That's lame. maybe Adam was a sperm that grew all by itself without an egg, so he was always his real age. What if bees had thumbs and frontal lobes? What if popcorn ran for president? What if what if what if what if????

      What if you used your brain in a logical manner?

      November 20, 2012 at 5:43 pm |
    • MiamiMikey

      I guess science class was never one of your major courses! Please seek help!!!

      November 20, 2012 at 5:44 pm |
    • jean

      Ha ha ...wonderful story,a very creative mind y hve there.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:44 pm |
    • well

      @Moby Schtick – I'm not a young earth proponent, but if Cp is right, then only those who insist that physical observation is the ONLY source of truth would be tricked (by their own bias). That's not God's fault and He's not doing any tricking since He IS revealing the whole truth, but just through various sources, including scripture.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:45 pm |
    • midwstrngrl

      and scripture is the truth? and how do you know that? because someone said so? yep that be about it....

      November 20, 2012 at 5:50 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      'In like manner the earth, scientifically, looks billions of years old but in reality it was just a day old as well.'

      except of course that discounts all the layers of fossils laid down that appear within that time scale.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:57 pm |
    • Victor Cartman

      If God made the world to look like it is billions of years old it stands to reason that God wanted us to believe that it was that old. By believing that the earth is only 6,000 years old young earth creationists are going against the will of God.

      November 20, 2012 at 6:14 pm |
    • nadinesh

      This does sound like one of the discussions Sheldon has with Rajesh & Howard about Spock.

      November 20, 2012 at 7:22 pm |
  7. Libertarian Atheist

    If the GOP would cast out all of the knuckle dragging throwbacks and rednecks, and leave religious mythology to that crowd, and focus on a libertarian message, they could possibly win. Stick to fiscal conservatism, and stay out of the mythology business, and out of people's crotches.

    November 20, 2012 at 5:26 pm |
    • Denverdriver

      Well said!

      November 20, 2012 at 5:34 pm |
    • DJ

      I'm not a Republican, but might the reason that they're involved in people's crotches be the very very simple fact that they're expected to pay for what's going on down there?! If I'm paying for what another person does, your darn sure I'm going to have a say in where my money goes. Paying for it yourself? Have fun with it all, none of my business.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:35 pm |
    • Libertarian Atheist

      DJ....having insurance companies include birth control is CHEAPER than not doing it, as it is far less expensive for them than babies when it comes to costs. So the only reason to oppose birth control in insurance is the religious sky daddy reasoning, which is most ridiculous. The government needs to stay out of religion and insurance.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:43 pm |
    • DJ

      I understand your point. Yet it was already possible to get free or very cheap birth control (I still don't understand why this was ignored on all fronts....well, yes I do). I know fully insured women who have gone to Planned Parenthood for years because it's free or cheaper than they could get through their own paid health care with a co-pay. Of course it's democrats and the media to the rescue to garner women's votes and a few republican wackos who did a good job of painting conservatives as women haters.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:57 pm |
  8. No Relegion

    Only in USA politician are afraid of answering simple question like how old is earth, evolution, etc.

    November 20, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
    • Libertarian Atheist

      You are correct, because in any other modern country the scientific answer would be the only answer.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:27 pm |
  9. evidence is required

    We don't know exactly how the Earth was created but we do reliably know its age as well as the apparent age of the universe. Let's all agree to know what we know and acknowledge what we don't know for certain. As a scientist, I must admit when I don't know and I must always back up my statements with testable evidence. The Earth is approximately 4.5B years old as known from many radioisotope decay measurements. We also know the magnetic poles have reversed several times (crystal alignment and polarity in rock) and that sea levels have changed radically (aquatic and terrestrial fossil evidence). Modern humans are approximately 100,000-150,000 years old and will either go extinct or evolve into something else.

    November 20, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  10. The Eternal Satyr

    So when we look up into the night sky and see the light from stars that are millions and billions of light years away, that's the debbil playing tricks on us? Sure. Okay. Whatever you say, believers...

    November 20, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
  11. Brother Maynard

    Free tips for Republican candidates
    Tip 1) Drop the social issues – I would vote for a fiscally conservitive republican in a heartbeat if they dropped the anti-abortion, anti-gay ignorance
    Tip 2) Get into the 21 century ... or at least the 20th century when it comes to scientific knowledge. We stopped thinking epilepsy was demon possession a long time ago.

    November 20, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
    • Libertarian Atheist

      In a nutshell, let go of religious mythology. Let the whackos who believe in this stuff form their own part of inbred hicks, and let's let the libertarian side of the part take over. My point exactly.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
    • midwstrngrl

      the republican party has tried to tie two distinct ideologies together – the Libertarian type (Ayn Rand) and the Religious Right. Doesn't work very well...

      November 20, 2012 at 5:36 pm |
    • Libertarian Atheist

      midwst.....

      You are correct, and the religious whackos should be thrown out to start their own whacko party. Yes, the GOP would loose a huge part of the base, but I believe it would allow some fiscally conservative liberals to join them, increasing the ranks of the GOP, and decreasing DEM membership. It might still not work, but it's better than letting these nutjobs ride along with us Libertarians from here on out. I'm sick of them and they ruin the GOP.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:41 pm |
    • midwstrngrl

      Although I dont agree to the level which Ayn Rand viewpoint takes things, I do run more fiscally conservative overall. But I would take a Libertarian government over a religious theocracy any day! Theocracy is what our forefathers fought against. Freedom and democracy cannot exist in a theocracy. I will fight them to the bitter end and vote very liberal if I have to...

      November 20, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
    • DJ

      The forefathers did fight for religious freedom. You can be completely religious and be pro-gay. Well, the enlightened religious folks at least.

      November 20, 2012 at 6:25 pm |
  12. kanoodle

    Well Rubio, you will never be President or Vice President

    November 20, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
    • Libertarian Atheist

      Very true, but I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see him put up as the great hope of the GOP in a couple of years, and run in 2016 only to suffer a resounding defeat.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:32 pm |
  13. Aerin

    The GOP is going the way of the dinosaurs, thankfully.

    November 20, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  14. JC

    I am surprised to see the overwhelming response by atheists and their increasing number everyday.
    Is this the death of religion or is it taking last breath with this generation?
    You get quite an idea by looking at how desperate religious have become in their defense.

    November 20, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
  15. Big Bird Johnson

    While America burns dumb liberals only care about stupid inconsequential things. They don't care about the economy. They don't care about jobs. They are intolerant bullies.

    November 20, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
    • Libertarian Atheist

      This bothers EVERY thinking person. I am socially liberal, but very conservative from a fiscal standpoint, and I ABHOR this type of nutty mythological BS, coming out of the mouth of someone put up as a national leader.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
    • frontgate

      So big bird, you believe the earth is about 10,000 years old and you call others dumb and stupid. Oh yeah.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:44 pm |
  16. CarnalIgnorance

    I have just one question to everyone.

    Where did it come from?

    All this talk of evidence this, evidence that. Where did it start? The best that "SCIENCE" has is a BIG GIANT BOOM!!! Really? So you,me, this blog, your computer, the internet, the Earth, Solar System, the Sun all just happened one day. BOOM, there it is!! Don't tell me we are the result of the Natural Order of the Universe when there was no nature to begin with. How can something happen Naturally when Nature doesn't exist? Evolutionist are the real close-minded, intolerant people. The reality is that noone here or on Earth has the answers. And the answers we are given by "SCIENCE" changes all the time. It changes because "SCIENTIST" are corruptable, fallible, creatures. GOD IS NOT!!! People inherently believe in God because God gave us a Spirit. And as long as we are here on Earth your Spirit will tug at our minds about spiritual things. Those who repress there spiritual yearnings with "SCIENCE" are lying to themselves and their soul!!! Please don't get me wrong, observation of our natural world is a perfectly logical response to God's creation and I whole-heartadly believe in the science of observation and experimentation. However, I don't put my faith in Man. And, anyone who does will be let down and will be wrong, ALWAYS!!!

    November 20, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Answer: We don't know.

      Also, we don't know if that's even the right question. There's much we don't know, but saying, "Big invisible sky wizard did it with magic spellz" doesn't get us any closer to accurate answers, either.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      Where did God come from?

      November 20, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
    • Akira

      People are welcome to believe in whatever they want...they are not, however, welcome to legislate laws based upon their faith...it's pretty much that simple.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:26 pm |
    • Planesight

      Ok, so something must have caused the big bang, I get that, and not many scientists actually use the big bang as evidence that there is not some sort of "god" out there that produced the universe. However, to me what is ridiculous is one believing that they know the answer to how old the earth is based on a 2,000 year old book that was word of mouth... you ever played telephone?

      If there is a god, it is a slap in its face to refuse to use the brain he gave you and rational thinking to try and figure out some portion of the universe by yourself or by collaborating with others through experiments. Also the beauty of science is that it always builds on itself and changes with increasing data whether it be in support of a previously formed theory or against it. Scientists know the limitations of their work, however, when tools such as radiometric dating are used on the basis of detected decay rates that are CONSTANT, we feel pretty good about our assessment of how old the Earth is. The creationist age for the earth is just based on a 2,000 year old book that did not use reproducible experiments, it used faith.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:27 pm |
    • Libertarian Atheist

      Your logic of "you can't explain how things started so god must be real" can also be applied in turn to god, leaving the same doubt about the existence of this imaginary invisible sky spirit. I put MUCH more faith in quantum physics and in those who have proposed reasonable explanations than in a book of mythology written a few thousand years ago by knuckle dragging barbarians.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:31 pm |
    • evidence is required

      Carnal, you should read a respectable description of the Big Bang Hypothesis and digest it before discarding it. It's clear you don't even know what it is. You must also be quite young because even I remember growing up when there were no computers. The Big Bang certainly didn't generate computers. Now that's just silly!

      November 20, 2012 at 5:31 pm |
    • WCCT

      No. It happened over 14.5 billion years. If it hadn't, we wouldn't be here.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:34 pm |
    • frontgate

      My, my, my, ignorance such as yours, carnallgnorance is mind boggling.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
    • robert

      The evidence is there for anyone whom can read. Creationism depends upon which version of the story you have fallen for. To see the evangelical Christian speaking in tougues and circles is the norm. They are probably also the same as these "preppers" we're hearing about. They better hope whatever it is they're fearing isn't geological in nature, that's a clock which cannot be prepared for.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:49 pm |
    • Ken Margo

      I've said this before. We should be more concerned about the earth's future than its past. No matter how old it is. It wont be here for future generations unless we take better care of it. Global warming, climate change, whatever you want to call it. we need to deal with reality to solve these issues.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:57 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      'The best that "SCIENCE" has is a BIG GIANT BOOM!!! Really?'

      as first suggested by a catholic priest.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:58 pm |
    • CarnalIgnorance

      How can something come from nothing? It is a very simple question.

      If I came home from work one day and there was a big TURD on the dining room table and I began to ask questions about that turd. How old is this turd? What compounds make up this turd? What kind of bone is this in the turd(LOL)? Then I call my son into the room. "Son,you are a turd expert.Please analyze this turd for me". " O.K. Dad!!". One week later I come home from work and my son is patiently waiting with the results. Dad this turd was 2 days old when you found it. Dad this turd is made up of Fiber Bars and Cheetos. Dad it was only a partial bone but I reconstructed it and it looks like an animal that noone has ever seen before(LOL). "Great Work Son. Now where did it come from?". "Well dad I was sitting at the table eating Fiber Bars and Cheetos 2 days ago and all of a sudden BANG!!! There it was. It took a few hours for it to cool off and begin looking like a turd, but I couldn't believe it. There it was!" Now I could postulate as to the mass of the turd collapsing in on itself became so great that finally it just exploded and materialized on the table as a hot ball of gas and slowly cooled to form what we see today as a big brown turd. Give it just a few more billion years and that Hot turd would eventually liquify into some basic amino acids and start to grow into a single celled organism. Eventually this turd with just enough time will start to forage and organize into a social order.

      And people make fun of me for believing that a Higher Power designed and created this Universe. Look at how silly Evolution really is. That everything on Earth came from a Hot Molten Rock. Which came from a big giant explosion...WHICH CAME FROM NOTHING!!! Science does not ask the question of how was the Universe formed because they just like the knowledge and want answers. Science wants a fake answer to disprove the only viable answer which is GOD!!! Spiritual knowledge and acceptance of GOD does not require me to ask the question, "Where did GOD come from?" It is a Knowing of the Spirit. The proof is in my soul. When one tries to answer spiritual questions with carnal, mindful answers then the whole premise is flawed. That is why NO SCIENTIST or ANYONE HERE will ever have the simple answer to, "Where did it all begin?"

      GOD is the ALPHA(beginning) and the OMEGA(end). PERIOD!!!!!!

      November 20, 2012 at 6:20 pm |
  17. Colin

    So ya think science and religion can be friends, do you? Hmmmm, let's see.

    Science – Hello Religion, I'm science. I am about 3,000 years old.

    Religion – Hello Science, I am older than you. As far as we can tell, I go back about 40,000 years or more. There is even evidence that Neanderthals practiced me.

    Science – Really!! How do we know that, Religion?

    Religion – Because of you.

    Science – So, Religion, what do you do?

    Religion – Well, in the USA, I give comfort to not very smart people by letting them think that a being powerful enough to create the entire Universe and its billions of galaxies will cause them to live happily ever after in heaven after they die if they follow some rules laid down by ignorant farmers and herders in the Middle East 2,000 years ago.

    Science – You're kidding me. They buy that?

    Religion – You'd be surprised. Not only that, but in poorer, less educated parts of the World, I can actually convince people to hit themselves until they bleed, starve themselves, bob in front of a stone wall for hours on end, wade into filthy rivers and, in some cases, to kill other people or even themselves.

    Science – Oh my goodness, I'm not sure I want to be your friend. Do you do any good?

    Religion – I sell a lot of books. And what about you science, what do you do?

    Science – I relieve pain and cure disease. I also extend lives, allow travel, communication, and people to understand and control their environment. I allow humans to explore outer space, the bottom of the oceans and subatomic particles. In short, I have allowed humans to live longer, more informed lives, and with a degree of knowledge and comfort once never dreamed of.

    Religion – Wow, they buy that?

    Science – No, of course not. Unlike you, I have to deliver. I cannot claim something and avoid skepticism by alleging that it only happens after you die, or that my claim is "beyond understanding" or otherwise exempt from critical analysis or proof.

    Religion – That's gotta suck.

    Science – You get used to it. Anyway, I need a friend I can rely on. One of substance, not dreams. One of proof, not spoof and one of intellectual discipline, not flakey promises. I don't think we can be friends. Please go away.

    Religion – Now we both know that's not going to happen.

    November 20, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
    • Akira

      Bravo!

      November 20, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
    • evidence is required

      Colin, now that was everything in a very clean nutshell. Well done.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:33 pm |
    • Dr.Barron

      Why do atheists always assume that religion = Christianity? You're gleefully refuting "religion" but what you're refuting is specific to Christianity. I'm not taking sides, here, but your scientific method in this is lazy.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
    • DJ

      I'm going to have to agree with Dr.Barron on this. I'm religious and if I said this very line to any liberal they would instantly paint me as an anti-gay uneducated whacko red neck who hates people of different colors and wants to control women. They would then continue to taunt me and make me feel less than human because they....well, because liberals are better people as long as you agree with them (and yes, even libertarians feel this way about liberals, which is why the small l liberals are fast becoming libertarians). My religion has absolutely nothing to do with hate or discrimination of gays and does have everything to do with science and energy and nature. Please do not make the short sighted mistake that the word religion can only include the uneducated. Religion is reverence to everything and true reverence and religion does not include an ounce of discrimination. The universe is all energy and everything you do on a daily basis has an affect on this energy. Even if just microscopic.

      November 20, 2012 at 6:42 pm |
  18. WhyRPeopleSoGullable

    Lets see we have science on one hand, which is real work over years by many many people.

    Religion is an idea that is beyond corny and we have tro consider if its fact ?

    which is more likely to be true ?

    1) wearing robes in a magic house does something ?

    2) the world is round and older then bible says ?

    if you picked #1 you can step in the worker ant line

    November 20, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
  19. was blind, but now I see

    1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:

    2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

    3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

    4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

    5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

    6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

    7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

    8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

    9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

    10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

    2 Peter 3:1-10

    November 20, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      thats nice dear, now run along and play

      November 20, 2012 at 6:02 pm |
  20. Oh Long Johnson

    The universe isn't 14.5 billion years old. It's 13.7 billion. No wonder the public gets confused when the media can't get it right.

    November 20, 2012 at 5:14 pm |
    • evidence is required

      How long is your johnson? Is it your professed 7.5" or more correctly 4.2"? Do people get confused over size or is is about substance and function?

      November 20, 2012 at 5:36 pm |
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