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The churches of Charles and Andy Stanley
November 19th, 2012
11:44 AM ET

Two preaching giants and the 'betrayal' that tore them apart

By John Blake, CNN

Alpharetta, Georgia (CNN) – Andy Stanley walked into his pastor's office, filled with dread.

The minister sat in a massive chair behind an enormous desk. He spread his arms across the desk as if he were bracing for battle. His secretary scurried out of the office when she saw Andy coming.

The pastor had baptized Andy when he was 6, and groomed him to be his successor. But a private trauma had gone public. And Andy felt compelled to speak.

The minister stared in silence as Andy gave him the news. The "unspoken dream" both men shared was over.

After Andy finished, the pastor looked at him as tears welled up.

"Andy," he said, "you have joined my enemies, and I'm your father."

Read the full story on Charles and Andy Stanley
- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Christianity • Church • Georgia • Leaders • Pastors

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  4. DWN

    Good grief! Nobody is responsible for the beliefs of Christians but themselves. People who rely are TV preachers are involved in a dangerous game. If you've got a bible read it very carefully and compare notes with others, but don't let anyone decide for you what to believe.

    May 18, 2013 at 9:41 am |
    • Richard Cranium

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    Scientists have unearthed the first direct signs of cheesemaking, at a site in Poland that dates back 7,500 years.

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      That red devil with the funky horns...........and his partner the fairy.........did NOT create US !

      The ORIGIN story is bullsh-it...............so is the bible............... nasty !

      From Soup to Cells—the Origin of Life

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      Scientists have unearthed the first direct signs of cheesemaking, at a site in Poland that dates back 7,500 years.

      Human Evolution

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      For all POLITIANS see below!

      For all creationists and ID believers...............IT only takes minutes to figure IT out. No fairy in the sky needed !

      New Device Can Extract Human DNA With Full Genetic Data in Minutes

      May 6, 2013 — Take a swab of saliva from your mouth and within minutes your DNA could be ready for analysis and genome sequencing with the help of a new device.

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      May 14, 2013 at 6:36 am | Report abuse | Reply

      Science

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      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/11/my-take-gay-christian-is-not-an-oxymoron/#comments

      May 14, 2013 at 6:58 am | Report abuse |

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      May 14, 2013 at 7:01 am | Report abuse |

      Science

      Maybe they.............the politicians and you faith can learn the truth ..................and everybody around the planet !

      Mom and Dad............created you ............not the fairy in the sky............with the red horn-y devil.

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      May 14, 2013 at 7:08 am | Report abuse |

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    08:32 PM ET

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    Make sure to read comments

    April 18, 2013 at 3:10 pm | Report abuse |

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    Star Dust we are

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWdU_px9ApE&w=640&h=390]

    Holy Hallucinations 35

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XTCRdC8Dlo&w=640&h=390]

    The ORIGIN story is bullsh-it...............so is the bible............... nasty !

    From Soup to Cells—the Origin of Life

    http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/evo101/IIE2aOriginoflife.shtml

    Scientists have unearthed the first direct signs of cheesemaking, at a site in Poland that dates back 7,500 years.

    Human Evolution

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    Peace

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  7. angel

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    December 25, 2012 at 12:09 pm |
  8. tony

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    December 16, 2012 at 11:57 pm |
    • Kilto

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      April 7, 2013 at 3:19 pm |
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      May 12, 2013 at 9:57 pm |
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    Wow...."groomed" to take over his daddy's "Christian" empire. Funny how it hasing nothing to do with religion, or saving souls... just about turning faith into vast sums of money. So... are they charlatans, or hypocrites, or just low-down crooks, offering "salvation" to the highest bidder? Take a look "Christians".. this is really what your religion, preachers, and churches are all about. How do you look in the mirror, knowing you teach your children to support this B.S.? You should all be ashamed.

    December 14, 2012 at 10:48 pm |
  10. E101

    Scientists have unearthed the first direct signs of cheesemaking, at a site in Poland that dates back 7,500 year

    December 12, 2012 at 2:53 pm |
  11. kindness

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    MY personal testimony.
    A thought to consider without an ego response

    I Accepted Jesus christ as my lord and saviour. You never know how soon is too late. Transcend the worldly illusion of enslavement.
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    Try reading corinthians and see if it makes sense to you. Try it without a pre conceived notion of it being a fairy tale.
    See the truth...
    do we do what it says in todays society... is it relevant... so many have not recently read and only hinge their philosophy on what they have heard from some other person...which may have been full of arogance pride or vanity..

    Look closely at the economy ponzi, look at how society idolizes Lust , greed , envy, sloth, pride of life, desire for knowledge, desire for power, desire for revencge,gluttony with food etc .

    Trancsend the temporal world.

    Just think if you can find any truth you can take with you ....in any of these things. When you die your riches go to someone who will spend away your life..... You will be forgotten.... history will repeat iteslf.... the greatest minds knowledge fade or are eventually plagerzed..... your good deeds will be forgotten and only give you a fleeting temporary reward . your learned teachings are forgotten or mutated..... your gold is transfered back to the rullers that rule you through deception. Your grave will grow over . This is truth .

    Trancsend your egoism and free yourself from this dominion of satan. Understand you are a sinner and part of the collective problem of this worldly matrix... Repent.... Repent means knowing (to change) The Holy spirit (within) will convict you beyond what you think you can do by yourself. Grace is given to those who renounce the world. That are" in" the world but not "of " the world.

    Evidence follows faith. Faith does not follow evidence..... Faith ....above reason in Jesus Christ.

    Faith comes by Reading or Hearing the word of god from the bible . Ask Jesus in faith for dicernment and start reading the new testament... You will be shocked when you lay down your preconceived notions and ....see and hear truth ... see how christ sets an example ... feel the truth....

    Read Ecclesiastes. Read romans or corinthians.

    You cant trancend your own egoism by adapting a world philosophy to suit your needs. Seek the truth in Christ.

    Sell all your cleverness and purchase true bewilderment. You don't get what you want ....you get what you are by faith above reason in christ.

    I promise this has been the truth for me. In Jesus christ .

    Think of what you really have to lose. ...your ego?

    Break the Matrix of illusion that holds your senses captive.

    once you do . you too will have the wisdom of God that comes only through the Holy Spirit. Saved By grace through Faith. Just like seeing a new colour.... can't explain it to a transient caught in the matrix of worldly deception.
    You will also see how the world suppresses this information and distorts it

    You're all smart people . I tell the truth. Its hard to think out of the box when earthly thinking is the box.
    I'ts a personal free experience you can do it free anytime . Don't wait till you are about to die.. START PUTTING YOUR TREASURES WHERE THEY REALLY MATTER >
    Its awsome and It's just between you and Jesus

    my testimony

    Romans 10:9

    "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved
    Last eve I passed beside a blacksmith’s door,
    And heard the anvil ring the vesper chime;
    The, looking in, I saw upon the floor
    Old hammers, worn with beating years of time.
    “How many anvils have you had,” said I,
    “To wear and batter all these hammers so?”
    “Just one,” said he, and then with twinkling eye,
    “The anvil wears the hammers out, you know.”
    And so, thought I, the anvil of God’s Word,
    For ages skeptic blows have beat upon;
    Yet, though the noise of falling blows was heard,
    The anvil is unharmed – the hammers gone.

    Truth is..exclusive

    December 11, 2012 at 6:28 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      The anvil like god only exists in your deluded mind, but while you post your imaginings there will always be more than enough hammers.

      December 11, 2012 at 6:42 pm |
    • meifumado

      "When one person is delusional its called religion,
      When many are delusional its called religion"

      January 8, 2013 at 5:04 pm |
  12. Happy

    Courts have ruled here in USA public schools CAN NOT teach ID/Creationism . Happy Holidays!

    December 10, 2012 at 7:18 pm |
  13. Saturn

    God is the ultimate judge of who served him well, blake you fail again. preaching giants?
    All preachers are here to serve God and cannot be judged by the number of best sellers they sell . you get it???

    December 9, 2012 at 3:50 pm |
    • sam stone

      All preachers are here to serve god? What if they disagree? Who then is serving god?

      December 13, 2012 at 10:31 am |
  14. Andie

    This is happening to my Daughter, and Lily and I....Because I am a Jewish Christian who was baptized catholic, TAKE A LEAP OF FAITH....
    Any child that has been "sacrificed" for Money reasons...is a Child that deserves Live Love and Laughter...

    No matter what religion, creed, race or color...no child should be hurt, because of money...

    It may not be physical abuse...my scars healed, so did my face...

    But emotionl abuse done to a child, like that done to me by my "mother" and doing the same to my daugher liliana...who is a 5 year old, how do you heal scars that someone has put tm their heads, or hearts or souls...how do u heal the scars of those of which are stored in a persons memory.

    Thru JUSTICE , LOVE and Kindess..and a good Psychitrist, colud help, but a huge DOSE of FUN and laughter sould be the first medicine administered.....

    Sincerely,

    Rothy
    Andrea Lynn Vincent

    December 7, 2012 at 9:53 am |
  15. William manny

    People of the world do not let anyone mislead you because there only 1 God we all know of and that God came back and no longer hold the same name of Jesus-christ. The name of Jesus-Christ is no longer powerful and the (DEVIL) SATAN is now holding and hidding behind the name of Jesus-Christ to mislead the world. and to take as much souls as possible with him. Jesus came back already here in US.
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    December 3, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
  16. marcia

    I love you Dr Stanely. You have been the catalyst to bringing my family to Christ, and I will always be so indebted to you for that. I love your no nonsense approach to Gods Word. This world needs more preachers like you.

    December 3, 2012 at 11:42 am |
  17. Mac

    GOD is the biggest lie PERIOD!!!

    http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nbc-news/50024646/#50024646

    December 1, 2012 at 10:32 am |
    • The Bible says: "The fool says: There is no God."

      The Bible says: "The fool says: There is no God."

      December 2, 2012 at 1:39 pm |
    • Guillermo Pérez

      only because you say it??? don't worry, God know how to treat people like you...

      December 2, 2012 at 9:33 pm |
    • The Court

      Well no barn animals, anyone find Adam and EVE yet.
      Have DNA tested find out what side you are from.

      December 3, 2012 at 11:21 am |
    • sam stone

      "The Bible says: 'The fool says: There is no God.'"

      Bully for the bible.

      The fool is the one who thinks he or she speaks for god.

      December 13, 2012 at 10:34 am |
    • Paul

      I would say that evolution is the biggest lie, Period. In evolution you have to believe that microbes, sure, over time, became humans. That the intricate interlacing of life, well, that just happened. When Darwin proposed the evolutionary process he believed that we were all like Legos- each cell a building block. We now know how complex each organism is, making his postulation impossible. Study anatomy for just a short time and tell me that you believe humans 'just happened'. Of course, the search for a 'creator' leads to someone higher up than humans and that's rather hard to accept so you'll just have to accept the 'lottery of life' which has about the odds of winning a real lottery every hour of your life.

      April 12, 2013 at 6:05 pm |
  18. Please Read with Open Mind..

    Quran says, (holy Islamic scripture)

    “Proclaim, He is the One and only GOD. The Absolute GOD. Never did He beget. Nor was He begotten. None equals Him." [112:1]

    “They even attribute to Him sons and daughters, without any knowledge. Be He glorified. He is the Most High, far above their claims.” Quran [6:100]

    “The example of Jesus, as far as GOD is concerned, is the same as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, "Be," and he was.” Quran [3:59]

    God will say, "O Jesus, son of Mary did you say to the people, `Make me and my mother idols beside God?' " He will say, "Be You glorified. I could not utter what was not right. Had I said it, You already would have known it. You know my thoughts, and I do not know Your thoughts. You know all the secrets.[5:116]

    “No soul can carry the sins of another soul. If a soul that is loaded with sins implores another to bear part of its load, no other soul can carry any part of it, even if they were related. ... [35:18]

    It does not befit God that He begets a son, be He glorified. To have anything done, He simply says to it, "Be," and it is. [19:35]

    Thanks for taking time to read my post. Please take a moment to clear your misconception by going to whyIslam org website.

    November 30, 2012 at 12:16 pm |
    • The Right Left

      All religions are nothing but fairly tales spun to enthrall the ignorant and distract those suffering. When the music or the preaching stops, the problems are still facing the afflicted.

      Religion is like heroin. It will put you in a trance for a period, never solving anything. To the contrary, many taking these drugs turn violent. Millions have been killed consuming this drug and continue to be killed. The sooner we get off these drugs pushed by these sname oil merchants, the better off humanity will be.

      December 2, 2012 at 9:51 am |
    • Concerned for Muslims souls

      We Christians like to read many points of view, and we like for Muslims to also be willing to read what is written that contradicts your Muslim beliefs. Please go to these links...

      http://www.jariiivanainen.net/muhammad.html

      http://www.jariiivanainen.net/Islam_and_Jesus.html

      December 2, 2012 at 1:33 pm |
    • Guillermo Pérez

      Quran is not Holy Scripture... and Mohammed is a fake profet...

      December 2, 2012 at 9:35 pm |
    • Science

      TO Please Read with Open Mind

      The more you know creationists...........chad too ...............might help you know Bill...........you too Cap A

      Destiny & DNA......................World Science Festival

      http://new.livestream.com/accounts/4044190/events/2110223

      Professor Richard Dawkins – "What if you're wrong?"

      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beYYZRN1sEs&w=640&h=390]

      The Light...is...Science Wins God Loses | Facebook................from the little blue box.........think outside the box.

      https://www.facebook.com/ScienceWinsGodLoses

      "Creationists make it sound like a ‘theory’ is something you ... are all over it. ... that says I must submit to him or suffer agonizing punishment for all time?

      8,000,000 yesterday, today numbers are 27,200,000 results Any time Bing

      The e word wins all the time creationists ..........no god(s) made US............get over IT

      Make sure to highlight above phrase..............then click on the little blue box and search with Bing.

      Think out side the box and have fun .

      AND 3 BILLION year old what ?

      Three-Billion-Year-Old Microfossils Include Plankton

      June 6, 2013 — Spindle-shaped inclusions in three-billion-year-old rocks are microfossils of plankton that probably inhabited the oceans around the globe during that time, according to an international team of researchers.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/06/130606155123.htm

      Agree the bible is BS !!!

      Biblical Marriage Not Defined Simply As One Man, One Woman: Iowa Religious Scholars' Op-Ed

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/06/biblical-marriage-iowa-scholars-op-ed_n_3397304.html?

      utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/24/has-the-oklahoma-atheist-been-saved/#comments

      http://www.discovertheforest.org/

      http://boostnation.boostup.org/

      http://www.ted.com/talks

      http://www.ready.gov/alerts

      http://cisac.stanford.edu/

      The Light...is...Science Wins God Loses | Facebook................from the little blue box.........think outside the box. https://www.facebook.com/ScienceWinsGodLoses "Creationists make it sound like a ‘theory’ is something you ... are all over it. ... that says I must submit to him or suffer agonizing punishment for all time? 8,000,000 results Any time.

      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/04/atheists-to-start-1-800-hotline/#comments

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      lol??
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      Well, the hotline has already resulted in death when they muscled out this pair of like minded crooks. No honor amongst thieves!!
      New York (CNN) – Two life coaches who hosted a radio show called "The Pursuit of Happiness" apparently committed suicide together in their Brooklyn apartment, police said.
      Motivational speaker John Littig, 48, and his common-law psychotherapist wife, Lynne Rosen, 46, were found with plastic bags over their heads and a tube attached to a canister of helium, according to police............"
      A&A's are so um, well, evangelical!!

      June 9, 2013 at 12:36 am | Report abuse | Reply

      Science

      Yea the sh-it is happening again hey lol??.............YOU KNOW.

      The pentagram ..............markings of an implosion on a chondrite/stony iron meteorite.

      Doobs comment disappeared also that was under post with comment about the pentagram lol??

      June 9, 2013 at 3:51 pm |
  19. Angee

    Christians: why let yourselves be goaded by faithless or ignorant, off-point comments? These comments are clearly postings aimed at stirring up trouble. Jesus didn't respond to every critic with witty comebacks seeking vindication. Sometimes he said nothing and let the silence speak. Move on. Seriously.

    November 30, 2012 at 11:40 am |
    • Why it is many times best to answer.

      CTo Angee: There are times that one should not answer, but there are many times that to answer is to teach and give others a chance to learn something that might not have ever considerred on their own. Jesus could have kept quite many more times, when silly questions were asked of Him, but instead He took the opportunity to teach on misconceptions and we can all now learn from His answers. If our response is a quick insulting response, then you are correct, but if we take the time and teach, then it will be worth the response.

      December 2, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
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