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How American Jews view Israel’s latest Gaza assault
Conflict after conflict, U.S. Jewish groups and citizens have wielded grass-roots political clout to garner American support for Israel.
November 21st, 2012
01:30 PM ET

How American Jews view Israel’s latest Gaza assault

By Joe Sterling, CNN

Atlanta (CNN) – The code-red siren blaring in Israel on Tuesday hit close to home for Rabbi Adam Starr.

His wife and daughter were visiting the Jewish state Tuesday, where Israelis have been darting for cover from daily Hamas rocket fire.

Starr breathed easy after he got off the phone with his wife.

"She's in Jerusalem," said Starr, leader of the Young Israel of Toco Hills synagogue in Atlanta. "She called me to tell me she is OK."

But he and others in his congregation and across the country remain anxious over the latest round of fighting between Israel and Hamas.

"We all have many friends and family in Israel," Starr said, referring to his congregants. "We're seeing on Facebook and Twitter our good friends and what they are going through, the complexities in trying to explain this to their young children."

Starr's angst underscores the close bonds between the American Jewish community and Israel, a relationship that predates the founding of the Jewish state in 1948.

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American Jews long have felt an affinity for Israel as a bulwark against anti-Semitism and a refuge for a people escaping persecution and surviving the Holocaust.

Since its 1948 founding, Israel has fought wars with its Arab neighbors and the Palestinians.

Conflict after conflict, U.S. Jewish groups and Jewish citizens have wielded grass-roots political clout to garner American support for Israel.

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The bonds are underscored by their size. The world's largest Jewish community is in Israel at nearly 6 million people, according to estimates. The U.S. Jewish community is the second most populous at an estimated 5 million plus.

After Israel kicked off its offensive last week to stop Hamas rocket attacks on Israeli communities, Starr and others in the U.S. Jewish community sent an SOS across the United States: Help Israelis. Send donations. Demonstrate for the Jewish state. Let our brothers and sisters in Israel know they're not alone.

Jewish groups staged rallies in cities across the United States, including Chicago, Boston, New York, Philadelphia, and Los Angeles. More than $5 million in pledges to help the battered southern Israel communities has poured in, according to the Jewish Federations of North America. Jewish leaders have traveled to Israel to show their support, it said.

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"You've seen a startling consensus," said Omri Ceren, a senior adviser with the Israel Project, a pro-Israel information group, "from the right to the left, from secular/cultural to religious groups."

Ceren said things were different when Israel launched its Cast Lead offensive in Gaza in December 2008 when, he said, not all American Jews were on board.

"There was naïveté in parts of the Jewish community to the effect that maybe President Bush's unpopularity and his refusal to appease" rejectionist Palestinian elements blocked peace.

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After four years of continued hostility, Ceren said, there is more of a clear-eyed view of the perceived motives of Hamas, regarded by the United States and Israel as a terrorist group that is backed by Iran.

The 2008-09 operation failed to loosen Hamas' hold on power in Gaza. The militant rocket attacks from the territory ramped up year by year.

Hamas remained staunchly anti-Israel, and Israel's economic blockade to choke off the delivery of weapons from abroad has generated grass-roots support for the militant group.

"Now that naïveté has become impossible to justify," Ceren said. "The claim that Hamas can be peeled away from Iran doesn't pass the laugh test."

Israel has massed troops at the Gaza border and has threatened a ground offensive.  Even though American Jews widely support Israel's right to defend itself from rocket fire coming from Gaza, there is disagreement about the best way to do that. Prior to the recently announced cease-fire between Hamas and Israel, there was much hand-wringing over the wisdom of Israeli ground troops re-entering Gaza.

Some hope a ground war will be avoided, but it's a hard call.

"It seems to be a no-win situation," said Max Rosenthal, active in the small Jewish community of Huntsville, Alabama.

Israel can't live with thousands of rockets coming in every single day, he said. And it faces the challenge of trying to thwart Hamas without killing "huge amounts of people."

"If we go in with a truce, it'll be OK for a few months, then they'll start over again, they'll get more rockets in."

But Rosenthal and other U.S. Jews stress that the destruction of Israel is Hamas' avowed goal. And the future he sees is one of constant conflict.

"There's a feeling this is not going to end well, one way or the other," he said.

"My own feeling is a feeling of despair. I don't see any way of resolving it other than going in and wiping out Gaza and that is certainly not what anyone wants to do."

The executive director of J Street, a Washington-based advocacy group which bills itself as "the political home for pro-Israel, pro-peace Americans," questions whether further military action by Israel "would end the rockets and make Israel more secure" after Cast Lead.

"Today, rockets are more numerous and powerful. Israel is more isolated in its region and more ostracized around the world," said Jeremy Ben-Ami, J Street executive director.

"Only a political resolution to the century-old conflict with the Palestinians resulting in two states living side by side can end the conflict. Without that, in a few short years, we'll be right back here again: anger deeper, rockets more powerful, and political forces yet more extreme."

There's no question that Israel has a right to defend itself, just like any other sovereign nation, said Lindy Miller Crane, a member of Atlanta's Jewish community.

"If rockets were fired to the United States from Cuba, I would hope that the U.S. would react," she said.

Yet, like many Jews who consider themselves politically liberal, she is "ambivalent and conflicted" about how to achieve peace.

If and when a cease-fire comes together, she's worried about the follow-through.

She said that's because it seems as though no progress has been made to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian issue since the 2008 Israeli military operation in Gaza.

It's like the movie "Groundhog Day," Crane said.

She believes that if Israel can start addressing issues of racism and inequality, this will help the Jewish state initiate a strategy that will bring permanent peace with Palestinians.

"It's something that's going to have to happen," said Crane. "When I think about the future of Israel peace with the Palestinians is one aspect of that."

Israel has negotiated with the Fatah-dominated Palestinian Authority, which runs the government in the West Bank.  A main stumbling block to an Israeli-Palestinian peace has been the existence and expansion of Israeli settlements in the West Bank.

There is vehement disagreement among U.S. Jews about Fatah and its motivations.

Fatah casts itself as distinct from Hamas, which calls for the destruction of Israel (Fatah does not).  But they aren't much different, according to Roz Rothstein, co-founder and CEO of pro-Israel group StandWithUs.

Just read and listen to Fatah's anti-Israel rhetoric, educational system, and media, she said.

They "don't acknowledge there's an Israel next door," she said.

Israel "can get tough on Hamas" and weaken it  politically by working with the Palestinian Authority - which is dominated by Hamas' rival, Fatah - toward creating  an Israel and Palestinian state, wrote Peter Beinart for the Daily Beast.

"The problem is that in order to make Hamas suffer for opposing the two-state solution, Israel's government would have to truly embrace that solution," he wrote.

But he didn't hold out any hope that Israel would do that.

"Taking a hard line against Hamas requires taking a hard line against the settlements and at the end of the day, this Israeli government is soft on them both," he wrote.

Near the war but far from the political ferment, Jodi Mansbach, an Atlanta urban planner, sat in a Tel Aviv cafe this week.

Her 16-year-old son is spending a semester at an Israeli high school, and she was visiting him for the Thanksgiving holiday.

After the conflict started, her son had to be transferred from his school in Be'er Sheva, in the southern Israel danger zone, to Tel Aviv - a relatively safer location, despite a bus bomb and air raid sirens.

Mansbach admires the cool way her son's teachers and counselors and Israelis in general cope with fear. They know how to handle life amid air raid sirens, shelters and rocket fire.

"It's so much more scary on the news," she said.

She also draws inspiration from people of other nations, tourists and business people from places like Sweden and Germany, who share her hotel in Tel Aviv.

"The American Jewish community should take a cue from the rest of the world. They are here," she said, referring to Jewish and non-Jewish visitors.

"They are not letting the conflict get in the way. To me, that's incredibly inspiring."

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Israel • Judaism • Palestinians • United States

soundoff (619 Responses)
  1. REDFIREBALL

    CNN may want to broadcast the difference between professional credentials and bad professional behavior. try the "null hypothesis" approach: what if the Republicans are RIGHT about Obama and all his people? What would be the consequences for all America?

    November 22, 2012 at 11:29 am |
  2. Nova Man

    Was the killing of dozens of innocent children in Gaza a 'measured response'? Let's put the so-called Hamas rocket attacks into Israel in perspective. Since the start of the most recent hostilities, there have been ten times more Israelis killed on the highways of Israel than have been killed by these 'home-made $800 rockets'.

    In the eyes of the world, the Isrealis are losing credibility by their aggressive actions against the oppressed victims of Gaza. Until both Netanyahu and his cronies are booted out, and more civilized leadership takes control, the world will have no respect for Israel. (They stole Palestinian land, for gosh sakes.)

    November 22, 2012 at 11:03 am |
    • Athy

      So as long as traffic accidents cause more deaths than rockets, the rocket attacks are ok? So they should keep statistics and as soon as it looks like rockets are killing more people than traffic accidents for a year, they slow down the rocket attacks? People like you are really super smart and logical and should be in charge of running our country.

      November 23, 2012 at 2:05 am |
  3. Nova Man

    Was the killing of dozens of innocent children in Gaza a 'measured response'? Let's put the so-called Hamas rocket attacks into Israel in perspective. There have been ten times more Israelis killed on the highways of Israel than have been killed by these 'home-made $800 rockets'.

    In the eyes of the world, the Isrealis are losing credibility by their aggressive actions against the oppressed victims of Gaza. Until both Netanyahu and his cronies are booted out, and more civilized leadership takes control, the world will have no respect for Israel. (They stole Palestinian land, for gosh sakes.)

    November 22, 2012 at 11:01 am |
  4. Captain Crunch

    Okay, my major issue with this article as a Jew – Not all Jews support Israel and Zionism. And by implying that all Jews are united behind Israel, and not highlighting that there is a diversity of opinion you do more harm than good to the Jewish community – since you pretty much create a valid excuse for anti-Semitism.

    November 22, 2012 at 10:58 am |
  5. Ash

    Somehow the holy bible scriptures were broadcasted all over this thread when speaking of Israelis who reads the torah smh. Also it amazes me how anti-Obama posters are still angry over the man who won a second term. Get over it. He's your President for another 4 years. He and Hillary helped with the cease-fire along with the Egyptian Prime Minister. To you dimwits who claim Obama is anti-Israel, hey numbnuts, tell that to Israel's Prime Minister who THANKED Obama and praised him for helping out. You hillbillies (Republicans) are the U.S. homegrown terrorists yourselves so go over there to the Middle East where you belong so you can leave the rest of us law abiding hard working citizens in peace already.

    November 22, 2012 at 10:49 am |
    • EatLogic

      LOL. totally agree. most of the thread is a bunch of ultra-religious wackos. Even the last chief of Mossad, praised Obama for his policies in the Middle East. But I guess accordingly to some of these posts, Johnny RedNeck knows more about Israel than the Israelis themselves.

      November 22, 2012 at 10:58 am |
  6. Amit-Atlanta-USA

    I am a Hindu American, and like 95% of the Hindus (minus the 5% Brain-washed by the Muslim pandering Indian govt), I am a DIE-HARD supporter of the valiant Jewish people. While every other religion has taken the brunt of Muslim barbarism for centuries, Hindus, Christians and even more glaringly Jews have been the worst victims.

    Hindus and Jews are being systematically ethnically cleansed in their own lands....in the case of the Hindus....present day Pakistan, Afghanistan and now MOST SHAMEFULLY (to me as an Indian) in today's India's Kashmir, Assam and even in places where Hindus have a 90% majority!! L

    ikewise, Jews who were in a majority in Jerusalem, and all of Israel are being portrayed as the occupiers.

    And, both India and Israel (& ofcourse the US & Europe) see dailyacts of terror by our own Muslim citizens even as these Muslims portraythemselves as the victims of terror and discrimination......

    ably supported by COVERT Radicals like CNN's own Mr.Fareed Zakaria (who may in fact become our next US
    Sec. of State, a proposition 100 times worse than that of Susan Rice....GOD SAVE AMERICA!!!).

    Unless Israel establishes a PURE Jewish state by resettling all their Arab inhabitants in Jordan where they actually belong it will face the same fate as India, and Europe...........or DEARBORN, MI !!!

    November 22, 2012 at 10:04 am |
    • boatops

      You sound more like a Zionist, If you are an American you should be questioning the June 8th 1967 Attack on the USS Liberty, the over 2 hour massacre of 34 US Servicemen and the wounding of 174, the machine gunning of life rafts put in the water for survivors! It is a Israeli land grab, always has been, only now through the internet Americans are learning the truth, Israel is NOT our Friend! Remember the USS Liberty!!

      November 22, 2012 at 10:23 am |
    • Chris

      hmmmm I suppose you want to start cleansing the US next. Who will you send where? I doubt you are representative of all Hindus

      November 22, 2012 at 10:24 am |
    • EatLogic

      Amit – reading all of your rant with an open mind, the only reasonable conclusion is that you are unequivocally bigoted by your own personal experience. The fact of the matter is the conflict between Israel-PL is about real estate and nothing more. One party wants it and the other party has it, and the party that wants it is effectively choking the resident party economically and militarily. Your ideas of resettlement ring historically of tactics practiced by the Nazis and Stalin, and most recently in Eastern Europe.

      November 22, 2012 at 10:26 am |
    • REDFIREBALL

      There are many "gods" but only "One True God" who created the Heavens, Earth and all living creatures in the universe. The challenge or all 7 billion humans on earth is to find out who this "One True God" is - and what He expects from us for our existence. The onus is on each and everyone of us to find Him - we need to look for Him, and He will be there for us when found.

      November 22, 2012 at 10:32 am |
    • DB-Houston

      Amit, you keep changing your story. Here you are in the 95% bracket, but on the other story about American Arabs you in the 90% bracket. Shifting to appease the audience, are we?

      November 22, 2012 at 10:56 am |
    • VOICEofREASON

      BOATOPS, No disrespect to those killed and wounded on the Liberty, but it was a mistaken attack on a ship they thought was an Egyptian boat. In all of the wars in Israel, it was they who were attacked by Arab nations and Palestinians who they beat back and widened their borders to protect themselves. Hardly a Land grab.

      November 22, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
  7. Mike

    What is up with all this Bible Quoting like everybody knows something and has something to say???

    Gimme a break.

    Think for yourselves. The Arabs and their radical nutcases like Hamas are Terrorists. Plain and simple.

    What did all of you forget 9/11? or did you think it was still a Jewish conspiracy?

    Hamas and the Arab gov't's support terrorists. Plain and simple.

    Israel is our only foothold.

    November 22, 2012 at 9:43 am |
    • lol??

      "Jer 17:5 Thus saith the LORD; Cursed [be] the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD."

      November 22, 2012 at 2:48 pm |
  8. Brampt

    Some bible passages that show that the nation of Israel is not Gods people today:
    For not all who [spring] from Israel are really “Israel.” Rom 9:6

    42Jesus said to them: “Did ​YOU​ never read in the Scriptures, ‘The stone that the builders rejected is the one that has become the chief cornerstone. From GOD this has come to be, and it is marvelous in our eyes’?43This is why I say to ​YOU, The kingdom of God will be taken from ​YOU​ and be given to a nation producing its fruits. Matt 21:42,43

    22But ​YOU​ have approached a Mount Zion and a city of [the] living God, heavenly Jerusalem, and myriads of angels. Heb 12:22

    November 22, 2012 at 9:08 am |
  9. Brampt

    Your as other "Christian" evangelical churches beliefs that Israel is Gods people is a total mistake! In fact modern Israel reminds me about the rebellious Israel of the times of the prophets. For example In the books of the prophets God condems Israel for making alliances with the kings of other nations of there time, instead of looking for Gods guidance and protection. Today there trust is put in the UN, rather then in God!
    In the past Salomons temple represented Gods presence in between the nation, well that temple was destroyed by the Romans back in 70 CE, as it was prophecized by Christ,replacing it eventually a Muslim mosque.
    As a nation, the Jews rejected Jesus as the promised messiah, until today.
    So who ever is saying that about Israel is Gods nation, has to stop looking for some sort of financial advantages, and has to learn to put aside bias and study the scriptures properly!

    November 22, 2012 at 9:05 am |
    • REDFIREBALL

      Correct - Islam and Judiasm sprang from the bosom of Abraham. Jehovah promised Abraham that the "Promised Seed" (Jesus) would be born of the Jewish liniage. The Old Testament showcases the main characters part of this liniage until Jesus birth. the adult Jesus asserted that he came to fulfill the Law, but the Jewish religious powers that be did not accept it. After his death, the door was opened to ALL on the earth - both Jews and Gentiles (non-Jews) to be "saved." Therefore, Jehovah expanded his "chosen people" to be anyone on the earth who accepts Jesus as our savior and reigning King. Orthodox Jews still do not accept that the Messiah already arrived once and came back to life because Roman soldiers who witnessed the disappearance of his body from the tomb were paid off by the Jewish Pharisees to remain silent.

      November 22, 2012 at 10:11 am |
    • REDFIREBALL

      I have many Jewish friends who now accept and believe that Jesus is the true Son of Jehovah God. They read the New Testament (Greek Scriptures) and were convinced by comparing the numerous signs and prophesies offered to what they observe today.

      November 22, 2012 at 10:18 am |
  10. peace

    Hope there will be a long-lasting peace in that region. I do not see the light at the end of the tunnel though! If someone thinks that religion allows oppressing others or killing others, I do not understand how peace co-existence is possible..

    November 22, 2012 at 8:59 am |
    • REDFIREBALL

      This is only a temporary moment of peace - everlasting peace will not occur until after Jesus' second coming, when Satan and the demons are chained - and humans judged by Jehovah as wicked are destoyed. The "righteous shall inherit the earth."

      November 22, 2012 at 10:21 am |
    • therealpeace2all

      @REDFIREBALL

      Any guess as to when J.C. is a comin' back ? 8O

      Peace...

      November 22, 2012 at 11:01 am |
  11. lionlylamb

    To you who are teachers of the Jewish Gospels,

    Send your missionaries into the Palestinian lands and teach them Palestinian children about not only the "Jewish" Bible but also teach them all about otherly things such as Romeo Romeo where for art thou Romeo among many other fatwahs of societal concernments!

    November 22, 2012 at 8:54 am |
  12. REDFIREBALL

    Ecclesiastes 3 - For everything there is a time - a time for war and a time for peace -- a time to hate and a time to love

    November 22, 2012 at 8:40 am |
    • nope

      @red...
      nope

      November 22, 2012 at 9:03 am |
  13. rs1201

    as long as obama is President...Israel will be at a disadvantage. None of us know what kind of threats obama makes to Netanyahu and Israel. Obama is a lying thug who let his own men die in Benghazi while he went off to Las Vegas. I don't expect anything from that liar.

    November 22, 2012 at 7:59 am |
    • verite67

      Why don't you just leave? We don't need you here.

      November 22, 2012 at 8:32 am |
    • nope

      @rs

      nope

      November 22, 2012 at 8:34 am |
    • IreneN

      People are sick of i diots who tie their diarrhea to Obama... It was your greasy hamburger from a local joint, dude... You hate him no matter what. We know, and we know why. Since "no one knows", why don't you shut up and start talking when you know. I've been in many small-town cities in the South (thankfully, only drove through) and I can't stop wondering how come all that doped, toothless welfare-dwelling trailer trash can actually feel superior to anyone... Mind-boggling!
      Happy Thanksgiving!

      November 22, 2012 at 8:35 am |
    • REDFIREBALL

      Jehovah knows - don't worry, be happy :)

      November 22, 2012 at 8:35 am |
    • RayV

      rs1201, you full of it. You are a right wing extremist and not much better then a left wing extremist. Our governments foreign policy should not be held hostage by Israel and 5 million Jewish-Americans. We need to dramatically cut foreign aid, be it monitory or military, to all countries particularly to Israel. Why should we continue to fund a conflict that goes back thousands of years and WILL NEVER END? Do we have to go bankrupt for us to understand that we need to stop borrowing money only to give it a way to countries who don't really care aboutbwhat happens to our great country? Why aren't you f'ing right wing extremist upset about the fact that foreign aid, along with social security, medicare and mediaid, is part of our fiscal problem? It seems to me that regardless of the right or left wing point of view, none of you really give a sh!t about the many reasons why we are going broke. All you care about is your own personal agenda and b!tch!ng about Republicans not being in the Oval Office. How un-American and un-patriotic of you.

      November 22, 2012 at 8:39 am |
    • nope

      @red...
      nope

      November 22, 2012 at 9:02 am |
    • Andrew

      That is some load of crap. Let me get my boots and shovel.

      November 22, 2012 at 9:24 am |
    • bigmoe

      You are an idiot. Yes four people were killed and that is wrong.But you are the kind of person who had no problems going to war in Iraq based on lies. Condy said they had nukes. How many thousands of Americans were killed or wounded and how many countless Iraqis were killed. Not all Iraqis supported Hussein. You are just mad that a black man is president and that makes you ignorant.

      November 22, 2012 at 10:28 am |
    • Arnold from Boston

      Benghazi is the new Holy Grail of the right but it has nothing to do with Israel so I will deal with the relevant part of what you said.

      First, I am sure Netanyahu expressed his thanks for Obama's financial support which was instrumental in the production in recent years of additional Iron Dome batteries. In a very real sense the US just saved hundreds of Israelis from death and maiming.

      Second, if anything it was not a blackmail but a sweet bribe with a further commitment of even more funds for additional Iron Dome Batteries and missiles. I also suspect Obama promised additional funding for the David's Sling/Magic Wand ABM system which Israel is developing (in a joint project with Raytheon – the maker of the Patriot system) to deal with the more powerful and longer range rockets, especially Syria's SCUD missiles.

      Third, Obama is proving to be one of the best friends Israel has ever had in the White House. BUT he now needs to use his influence to get the stalled peace process restarted. The help is the carrot, the talks are the stick. That is the critical component which has been missing and the only way to create a comprehensive peace and a lasting legacy for both Obama and Hillary Clinton. On the other hand, given the political support which was just given to Hamas if peace talks are not restarted with concrete results then I do not see how the PA will survive. That failure will also guarantee another cycle of violence by Hamas.

      Israel must evacuate most of the settlements (but not all – some will require land swaps) and agree to give up all of East Jerusalem except the Old City.

      The Palestinians must on the other hand give up on the idea that The Right of Return is a guarantee that their diaspora can relocate to Israel. The UN has perpetuated this problem with the Relief Works Agency which should be required to cease operations as part of the final peace treaty. Some emigration to Israel should be allowed to reunite families but the vast majority of Palestinians should have 2 choices – either emigrate to the new Palestinian state or create permanent homes elsewhere. We can not have a two state solution and continued support for refugee camps, they are mutually incompatible. The camps must be phased out and their support mechanisms turned over to local authorities.

      I doubt any negotiations will happen before the Israeli elections but dates can be set, agendas can be set, and timetables can be created. Steps no matter how small must be taken to show that talks are resuming. This is the ultimate test for Obama's Israel-Palestinian Policy and he needs to deliver results!

      November 22, 2012 at 11:01 am |
  14. lionlylamb

    Mathew 6:33 "But seek ye first the kingdom of God!"

    Luke 17:21, "The kingdom of God is inside you!"

    John 18:36 Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world!"

    1Corinthians 3:9 "For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, [ye are] God's building!"

    Can one body of people not change that which was declared to be biblically so written? Wherein the biblical can prophesying though forewarned be outwitted should warnings be prophetically heeded? Is it righteously endeavouring to wantonly fulfill a religiously and historically imbedded future thought just because it is so written? Should not a people of uncommon intellect become intellectually mundane just to satisfy biblical prophecies? Wherethen lays the lands ending of aberrance foretold of wanton means? Who are the lands beneficiaries should war bemoan them and all do die out due and thru warring? Hell knows no other ways but to willfully and wantonly fulfill the Word, the Jewish Gospel!

    Manly made Gods in name onliness euphemisms have become false-cherishing sublimations not to be subliminally outdone by anothers' naming of God such as Elohim or Jehovah etc etc. Is it not of more-so importance to write or make small-talk toward others to 'menstruatively' condition the morals of youthfulness than to bicker and banter about as elder-aged 'gossipers' seeking shadowy umbrage praises of youth-based others to justify their own selfishness sakes? Who therefore is to be pitied more, the one behind the podium with playing cards or the audience who does sit in waiting to be as leavened bread ever to rise up in unison?

    The christian word of truth being the wordage of gospels to which are now way too varyingly many to be had and can no more be held up in weighty agonies of righteousness sakes. To the christians; "The troubles with faithless and unfaithful trinitarians, those who belly-up to one god times three is, they read but only into it and get very little out of what they make 'gospel' in treacherously unsound morbid amplifications of unblessed pleasings by the manly adaptive and grudgingly adopted childishness views of Godly egregious moralisms."

    The christian rudimentary and timid preaching practices in devilish tongues beatifies only the lecherously dumb-hearted relics, those aged heartburns of their christiandumbness's idiosyncratic marmoset-like redundancies. Their godly embittered and fettered moralisms are but self-centered and selfishly censored upon age old redundant principles that are remorsefully archaic in round-about sciatic cultured replicants behooving those old fuddy duddies who fumble ever for their next glass worth of wine! Drunk and in temperamental stupors are the emotionally fallen within christiandumbs folds becoming sciatic pragmatisms unworthy of even one toasting for, but rather for the many to be rightly toasting against!"

    November 22, 2012 at 7:53 am |
    • nope

      @lio...

      nope

      November 22, 2012 at 8:35 am |
    • guaraya

      I get dizzy just reading your post! It is humorous, though!

      November 22, 2012 at 9:50 am |
  15. lionlylamb

    Can one body of people not change that which was declared to be biblically so written? Wherein the biblical can prophesying though forewarned be outwitted should warnings be prophetically heeded? Is it righteously endeavouring to wantonly fulfill a religiously and historically imbedded future thought just because it is so written? Should not a people of uncommon intellect become intellectually mundane just to satisfy biblical prophecies? Wherethen lays the lands ending of aberrance foretold of wanton means? Who are the lands beneficiaries should war bemoan them and all do die out due and thru warring? Hell knows no other ways but to willfully and wantonly fulfill the Word, the Jewish Gospel!

    November 22, 2012 at 7:45 am |
  16. REDFIREBALL

    TO LIONLYLAMB - Hopefully the "Preserved Souls" can soon "Realize and Visualize" together as one.

    November 22, 2012 at 7:25 am |
  17. Gengis Khan

    REDFIREBALL, you are dreaming
    I never did that. You are anti-,mongolitic.

    November 22, 2012 at 7:23 am |
    • REDFIREBALL

      Happy are the ones who have - and the rest who soon will (wink)

      November 22, 2012 at 7:30 am |
  18. Reality

    Israel's formation was approved by the UN in 1948. Israel should honor the original UN agreement and live within the described borders. Considering the hate generated by passages in the koran and OT, erecting dividing walls between Muslims and Jews should continue. UN forces should control these walls.

    And Jerusalem should be made into an international city under the control and protection of the UN.

    November 22, 2012 at 7:23 am |
    • nope

      @re...
      nope

      November 22, 2012 at 8:25 am |
  19. Snowdog

    I love how the Palestinians are dancing in the streets like they won some sort of victory. All they won is Hamas will still control the country. They are happy that they are run by killers and terrorists. How sad!!!!

    November 22, 2012 at 7:14 am |
    • Frank

      yes and now they will be rewarded for the efforts with BIG CASH payments from obama+ Hillary after all they did do exactly what they here asked by Obama's CIA and distract the USA right after the election ...all terrorists work by/for/with the DNC and the US MEDIA ...CNN will claim this a victory just as they claimed HUMAS was the victim

      November 22, 2012 at 7:29 am |
    • lionlylamb

      Snowdog et al,

      It is somewhat a truth that the Palestinians are enthroned by their younger generations for Israel did so damage the elders of Palestine giving rise to their youth who only see scornfulness and vengeances upon those who have lied their ways into a homeland bought by the finagler banker, Rothschild and his enriched syndication of wealthy financiers the original Zionists who were the jews back in the 19th century and are even now in positions of authority as silent partners.

      November 22, 2012 at 7:31 am |
    • midwest rail

      " all terrorists work by/for/with the DNC and US MEDIA...."
      Delusional idiocy.

      November 22, 2012 at 7:31 am |
    • lionlylamb

      My Word Which Lays Upon Truths Opening the Door

      Mathew 6:33 "But seek ye first the kingdom of God!"

      Luke 17:21, "The kingdom of God is inside you!"

      John 18:36 Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world!"

      1Corinthians 3:9 "For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, [ye are] God's building!"

      Can one body of people not change that which was declared to be biblically so written? Wherein the biblical can prophesying though forewarned be outwitted should warnings be prophetically heeded? Is it righteously endeavouring to wantonly fulfill a religiously and historically imbedded future thought just because it is so Jewishly written? Should not a people of uncommon intellect become intellectually mundane just to satisfy Jewish based biblical prophecies? Wherethen lays the lands ending of aberrance foretold of wanton Jewish means? Who are the lands beneficiaries should war bemoan them and all do die out due and thru warring? Hell knows no other ways but to willfully and wantonly fulfill the Word, the Jewish Gospel!

      Manly made Gods in name onliness euphemisms have become false-cherishing Jew-based sublimations not to be subliminally outdone by anothers' naming of God such as Elohim or Jehovah or Yahweh etc etc. Is it not of more-so importance to write or make small-talk toward others to 'menstruatively' condition the morals of youthfulness than to bicker and banter about as elder-aged 'gossipers' seeking shadowy umbrage praises of youth-based others to justify their own selfishness sakes? Who therefore is to be pitied more, the one behind the podium with playing cards or the audience who does sit in waiting to be as leavened bread ever to rise up in unison?

      The christian word of truth being the wordage of condensed obligatory jewish gospels to which are now way too varyingly many to be had and can no more be held up in tumbling weighty agonies of self-righteousness sakes. To the christians; "The troubles with faithless and unfaithful trinitarians, those who belly-up to one god times three is, they read but only into it and get very little out of what they make 'gospel' in treacherously unsound morbid amplifications of unblessed pleasings by the manly adaptive and grudgingly adopted childishness views of Godly egregious moralisms."

      The christian rudimentary and timid preaching practices in devilish tongues beatifies only the lecherously dumb-hearted relics, those aged heartburns of their jew-based christiandumbness's idiosyncratic marmoset-like redundancies. Their godly embittered and fettered moralisms are but self-centered and selfishly censored upon age old redundant principles that are remorsefully archaic in round-about sciatic cultured replicants behooving those old fuddy duddies who fumble ever for their next glass worth of wine! Drunk and in temperamental stupors are the emotionally fallen within biblically jewish-rooted christiandumbs folds becoming sciatic pragmatisms unworthy of even one toasting for, but rather for the many to be rightly toasting against!"

      In retrospect, Godless bemoans and bewails the ungodly. For these are the choices from which commonwealth atheists do make felt upon their retrospective and habitual senses denying the goodly upon ever moving towards the ways of godly intent. Many young-bucks of godlessness and the ungodliness sensually tenders to avail themselves with the nailed doldrums' sciatica.They do abound with much societal unpleasantries toward the abaters of commonly wanton deniabilities against them. Ungodly and godless beings of smirked violaters of randomized intention-abilities are meant only as austerities of servile subversions. Their subversive deniabilities are not without compromising or so they do entail and also do weave upon the where-with-all of seasoned papacies irreversibly mandated.

      Likewise, the mockeries of these godless and ungodly against the goodly who themselves tenderly believe upon godly importance. The goodly ones may well live on to pass all and give bridled leverages onto every generation's aged continuations. How else could Life Truly End and Real Living Thusly Begin? To believe or not believe for these are Life's choices. Christ Jesus came to this world to condemn it and yet did He come here to also show how tenderly are generous mercies shown upon those otherly ones being most merciful to others who did so shower mercy to be so freely given by those being most merciful! Again I do say to believe or not believe for these are Life's choices. Still yet and forever onwards many generations are to be favoringly found in many a mercies, for the mercifilled ambiences are one of our Life's greatest treasures and livings' sweetest unending rewards upon the most needy of the poorest in spirits.

      For God does never change His spiritualism and His Holy Spirit is the Great Sea of Absolute Nothingness! Always was and is and will ever be no matter what smatterings of materialized shapes do tend to seemingly clutter up His unending spiritual abundancy! It is truth that God has troubles within the fractal paradigms of inwardness's inter-cellular cosmologies as protrutions of insolent 'activists' that are sometimes revolting against the grains of our embodied sanctifications creating many unrighteous undulations of physical travesties not uncommonly being viewed by us celestial beings as being viral and even bacteriological in the way we understand things to be and therefore become.

      What was first made can never again become that which was made first for only in varying differential constructs can another thing be made upon to ever be outdone against that which was firstly made. The pillars of one's DNA, the in-celled spirals of all celestial life forms and formations bitten fomentations is where God's True'd Sons and their given wives are taken in as residents there abouts.

      November 22, 2012 at 8:28 am |
  20. Snowdog

    Very dissappointed in Insrael for not going all the way. In a few months it will start all over again. Israel always backs down due to Obama pressure. Sickening.

    November 22, 2012 at 7:11 am |
    • RayV

      Snowdog, Israel has always backed down when pressured BY THE USA not Obama. Don't be stupid you moron! I say we stop bs king them all and let them go at it.

      November 22, 2012 at 7:23 am |
    • nope

      @sno...

      nope

      November 22, 2012 at 8:38 am |
    • lionlylamb

      RayV et al,

      Ray Ray RayoVac! If only it were that simplistically sound to let them go at it! Palestinians would have no chance in hell to win a waged all out war! Peacefulness does or at least should wager Palestine and Israel to be tabled bargainers yet only thru small talks might the youthfilled Palestinians learn and be taught to leverage their rightful wants and invigorate their dichotomized or torn-in-two minds! They need education not weapons and the israelis need to relinquish their hardened stance for promulgating their own hardened dispositions of waging war upon juveniles who barely know no better!

      November 22, 2012 at 8:45 am |
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