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November 27th, 2012
04:38 AM ET

Belief Blog's Morning Speed Read for Tuesday, November 27

By Arielle Hawkins, CNN

Here's the Belief Blog’s morning rundown of the top faith-angle stories from around the United States and around the world. Click the headlines for the full stories.

From the Blog:

CNN: U.S. Capitol gets official Christmas tree
The official Christmas tree of the U.S. Capitol arrived Monday and will be illuminated at a ceremony on December 4. Dozens of tourists, Capitol Hill staffers and news crews watched the tree's arrival along with Stephen Ayers, the Capitol architect. "My job is to officially accept the Capitol Christmas Tree on behalf of the Congress," he said.

Photo of the Day:


Photo credit: HMAD AL-RUBAYE/AFP/Getty Images

Iranian children light candles next to the Imam Hussein shrine as part of the ritual ceremony of Ashura in Karbala, 80 km (50 miles) southwest of Baghdad, on November 25, 2012. Millions of pilgrims pour into the Iraqi shrine city of Karbala for the peak of commemorations for Ashura today, the most important day in the Shiite calendar, with security tight following mass-casualty attacks in previous years.

Belief on TV:

Enlightening Reads:

JTA: Angela Merkel Vows To Battle Anti-Semitism
German Chancellor Angela Merkel has renewed her pledge to stand up for Jewish life in Germany and for Israel’s right to self-defense. Sunday night’s address was the first time that any German chancellor had visited the annual assembly of the Central Council of Jews in Germany. Sharing the podium with Central Council President Dieter Graumann, Merkel reiterated her longtime commitment to Israel’s security, which she had stated during the recent Gaza conflict. She said it was not only Israel’s right but its duty to protect its citizens from rocket attacks. “Germany also has that right,” she added.

Huffington Post: 'Anti-Sharia' Law Supporters Push For Action On Michigan House Bill Targeting Islamic Ideology
Supporters of an "anti-sharia" bill that's been sitting in Michigan's State House Judiciary Committee for over a year are pushing state lawmakers to put the measure to a vote. If adopted, the bill he introduced would "limit the application and enforcement by a court, arbitrator, or administrative body of foreign laws that would impair constitutional rights."

Religion News Service: Gay bishop Gene Robinson sets sights on D.C. as retirement looms
When Gene Robinson became the first openly gay Episcopal bishop in 2003, his election triggered shock waves and fears of schism worldwide. Now, as this lighting-rod figure prepares to retire Jan. 5, he’s leaving New Hampshire for a city that knows polarization all too well: Washington, D.C.

Huffington Post: Faith Shorts 2012 Winners Announced
The winners of Faith Shorts, the Tony Blair Faith Foundation's annual short film competition, were announced in London, England on Nov. 26, 2012. Charles Andrew Flamiano, a 16-year-old Catholic filmmaker from General Santos City, Philippines won the first prize in the 14-17 age category for the film, "Letting Go, Letting God" and Liat Har-Gil, a 25-year-old nonreligious filmmaker from Rosh Ha’ayin, Israel won the first prize in the 18-27 age category for the film, "Deathbed: The Musical." Har-Gil was also announced the overall winner of the 2012 Faith Shorts film competition for "Deathbed: The Musical."

The Guardian: Almost half the lay members who voted against female bishops were women
Almost half of the lay people who voted against legislation to allow female bishops in the Church of England were women, according to figures released on Monday, as senior members of the church were urged to speed up reform or risk consigning it to years of ignominy and irrelevance.

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CNN: My Take: Searching for God, settling for sex
Shannon Ethridge, counselor, speaker, author, and certified life and relationship coach, and advocate for spiritual and sexual integrity, explains why: “we have much to learn about God through understanding our sexuality, and there is much to learn about our sexuality through a deeper exploration of God.”

- A. Hawkins

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soundoff (105 Responses)
  1. NoOne

    Not sure.

    February 18, 2014 at 8:28 pm |
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  3. Chick-a-dee

    Good night to all. Have a pleasant evening. Pax.

    November 27, 2012 at 11:26 pm |
  4. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things
    Proven

    November 27, 2012 at 6:47 pm |
    • HeavenSense

      Howdy prayerbot.

      November 27, 2012 at 7:22 pm |
    • hal 9001

      I'm sorry, "Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things", but your assertions regarding atheism and prayer are unfounded. Using my Idiomatic Expression Equivalency module (IEE), the expression that best matches the degree to which your assertions may represent truths is: "TOTAL FAIL".

      I see that you repeat these unfounded statements with high frequency. Perhaps the following book can help you:

      I'm Told I Have Dementia: What You Can Do... Who You Can Turn to...

      November 27, 2012 at 7:27 pm |
    • niknak

      No, not proven.
      I have been praying for you to go away, yet you are still here.

      November 27, 2012 at 8:16 pm |
    • Saraswati

      I think we'd all find you just a tiny smidgen less annoying if you'd even take the effort to find a single half-baked research article to link to supporting your claim...just the barest recognition that you are aware that you have to present evidence to persuade anyone of your ideas.

      November 27, 2012 at 8:19 pm |
    • TrollAlert

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      "pervert alert" is the degenerate.

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      November 28, 2012 at 8:41 am |
      • IS that

        Chad floating around – lost in space – in all caps ?

        November 28, 2013 at 9:00 am |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs.-

      November 28, 2012 at 8:46 am |
  5. lionlylamb

    I bid one and all "Welcome to the Rocky Mount Pantry!"

    Today's specials are as follows,

    Apple Bush Pie made with Nothing special yet affordably priced!
    Athy Cathy peanut buttery sandwiches with a touch of banana in sauce form! An Elvis special!
    Pepperpot stew is a newly found favorite of the kid in you!
    Tom Tom Pigs feet specially pickled in an ages old tradition of pickling! A treat of much feet!
    Reality bitten cow tongues are a special for the tongue-N-cheek wanna bes!

    Do hurry in before the masses do come and dry up the place!

    November 27, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
    • Pete

      Hey, want to bury the hatchet?

      November 27, 2012 at 1:15 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      Did I fail to mention we have a new plate?

      I call it Pete's rocky mountain oysters made from hatchet ratcheted bulls & freshly chopped? :-) :-( :-)

      November 27, 2012 at 1:32 pm |
    • Pete

      Um, I love testicles.

      November 27, 2012 at 1:39 pm |
    • K-switch

      Don't forget the Breakfast special. Lionlylambs signature "nothing resembling english" muffin.

      November 27, 2012 at 2:15 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      Wehave just now opened up G.O.D.'s Candies, a store for the sweetness teeth!

      We have now the following candies,

      Pete's Dragon balls made from the bees' honeysuckle! A gravely but wanton treat!
      K-switch's back sugar cane jewelers poles! A don't wanna treat for those who just can't get enough cane!
      Liionly lamb peanut brittle conjured up from a devilish source unknown of by many! Godly good brittle!
      Athy cathy gumdrops for a chewy treat that can't be beat! Need some teeth for these drops!
      PepperPot taffy is also a chewy treat but one that leaves you yelling for more! Mind the pots on this treat!
      Tom Tom's milk duds are favored by many a folk who just love milky charms! This treat is a special and always in demand!
      Akira melon balls are crackin good spheres! Give these to someone you love! They'll be wonderin if you really need them!
      Apple Bush Berries are my favorite treats! Tasty green apple flavor with a touch of hog's breath cinnamon the appease the palettes!

      So come one and all to our grand opening on December 25th, 2012 A.D.

      November 27, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
    • K-switch

      Hey buddy, you didn't get my approval to promote my product. You gotta kiss the ring before you can slang my cane.

      November 27, 2012 at 4:03 pm |
    • Akira

      What aisle are the candy hairshirts in?

      November 27, 2012 at 4:51 pm |
    • Berief Brog Ninja

      I rike ramb chop, you make sweet and sour! Don't forget remon slice!

      November 27, 2012 at 5:11 pm |
    • Lodents for Lomney

      Berief brog,
      Is a pire of clap.

      Amen.

      November 27, 2012 at 7:37 pm |
    • Lodents for Lomney

      BTW,
      It's remon srice.
      Tsk tsk.

      November 27, 2012 at 7:38 pm |
  6. lionlylamb

    Why is it that clayed immaturities of audaciously rendered subjective slangs of thought generalizations spew forth bitter atonements meant to jiggle and wiggle in others a contemptuously cynical thought? Who is the wiser if neither one is any higher? Should not an equilateral equity of equalities be among all and for all to be recognized doldrums rather then beatifying or conjuring admittances? God forbade them all for Christ's sakes! What is that which one sees in their own minds wherefrom tender levities of brevities does issue forth controversial criticisms from many a lots' lips and even fingertips upon keying boards follies?

    November 27, 2012 at 12:29 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      You know what they say about talking to yourslef Mr. Lamb...

      November 27, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      Apple Butthead,

      Your cynicisms do need a breath of tenured rationalism instead of continually beating my "Written" Word through your words of vainness meant only to persecute and belittle! Get the fvck off your demeaning nature you fool of desperations dried up stratagems for you are making me to be angry! If that is your intention you are succeeding!

      November 27, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
    • Berief Brog Ninja

      rionryramb, you speeka good engrish. You give ressons?

      November 27, 2012 at 1:11 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      Berief Brog Ninja,
      :-) :-( :-)

      November 27, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
    • Akira

      Shouldn't that read "Your cynicisms doth need a breath..."?
      Oh, what am I saying?
      It's ll.
      Forgeddaboudit.

      November 27, 2012 at 4:57 pm |
  7. Bill

    I think we all should bury the hatchet. What’s the big deal if some of us are religious and some are not?

    November 27, 2012 at 11:25 am |
    • Pete

      When every single religious person in the country stops trying to tell other people who are not religious how they should live, then and only then will we bury the hatchet.

      November 27, 2012 at 11:29 am |
    • Huebert

      If everyone kept their religion to them selves it would not be a big deal at all. The problem arises when certain religions try to encode their beliefs into law.

      November 27, 2012 at 11:30 am |
    • Bill

      I don’t think that’s true Pete.

      November 27, 2012 at 11:31 am |
    • Apple Bush

      I do not doubt that you have good intentions, but you are naive. Religion is a dangerous weapon and it is yielded by greedy fanatical people to do harm, not good. These people use people like you to point to and see? We are honest and fair.

      November 27, 2012 at 11:51 am |
    • lionlylamb

      The ladders in Life's better roofed societal homes are meant for to be climbed and therefore seen from the above heights upon wisdom's clarifying sights.

      November 27, 2012 at 11:57 am |
    • Primewonk

      Of course what Pete wrote is true Bill. Every day we see religious nutters trying to pass legislation for biding gay folks from having equal rights. We see these nutters demanding they be allowed to determine what a woman does with her body. We see these nutters trying to I set themselves between a person and their physician. We se these nutters, who purposefully choose to be ignorant bout science try and have their myth taught as science in our public schools. We see these cretins demand to put their religious symbols in public squares and government buildings.

      And the simple fact that you choose to ignore all these, and many, many more, shows why we will not bury the hatchet.

      November 27, 2012 at 12:09 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      Bill et al,

      "Burying the hatchet" is a dualistic brevity that might be misconstrued by a meager and low minded individual taking an aim of really burying the hatchet in someone's being. Although many folks know it as a euphemism some will not know. The emotionally unstable are mentally disturbed lots. I know for I once was emotionally dysfunctional and am now on medication for my troubling nature. I am now and have been for many years quite stable emotionally speaking. You who find faults in my declaring such in public venues are but disturbed in your own thoughts and should seek another venue to study and steady your wordage on and upon.

      November 27, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      No need to bury the hatchet if said hatchet is used resbonsibly. Perhaps when you are done with it you should just place it in the shed out of the reach of children.

      November 27, 2012 at 2:18 pm |
    • Chick-a-dee

      @ Primewonk:

      You're on the wrong topic blog for those issues. This is the belief blog. Those are political issues. Here's your link:

      http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

      November 27, 2012 at 2:25 pm |
    • Akira

      Chick-A-Dee, Primewonk was answering a question that Bill brought up; and I agree with him; there might be a lot less animosity if the religious right were not trying to legislate their beliefs into law.

      November 27, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
    • truth be told

      For the harm they have caused this world self proclaimed atheism should be a class a felony. The USA could learn a lot from the Ugandan legal system.

      November 27, 2012 at 6:46 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      Actually, I'm ashamed to say, Uganda has gotten a lot of input from the US. Probably because there are a lot of nut jobs in high places in the US that feel confined by the Constitution.

      November 27, 2012 at 6:56 pm |
    • Saraswati

      @Chick-a-dee, Religion, like any other belief system, influences one's political decisions, from Senatorial actions to citizen voting. You cannot separate the two.

      November 27, 2012 at 7:33 pm |
    • Chick-a-dee

      @ Akira
      “there might be a lot less animosity if the religious right were not trying to legislate their beliefs into law.” TRUE, BUT NOT THE POINT I AM MAKING.
      @ Saraswati:
      “Religion, like any other belief system, influences one's political decisions, from Senatorial actions to citizen voting. You cannot separate the two.” NO KIDDING!

      The belief blog is for discussion of theology, exegesis, and other religiously faith based topics as well as philosophy and metaphysics in reference or tangenitally to news or editorials.

      The political blog is for discusssion of politics.

      Beliefs of the type that compose the belief blog topics change much less frequently than political beliefs. Back in the 1970's and '80s, the republican party courted and recruited evangelical fundamentalists for this very this very reason.

      Those who do not agree with the platform of a political party are most likely to effect change by joining the party and expending political capital in changing the platform, pursuading the party to disassociate itself from the party planks and supporters of those planks, working for the opposing party or a combination of all of these. All of these activities are off topic for the belief blog, but that is what the political blog is for.

      If no positive change is likely to occur to one's pet political issues from endlessly discussing off topic threads, there is no real reason to discuss them on the belief blog UNLESS the REAL reason one seeks out this forum and posts is specifically to create animosity, division and conflict.

      I stand by my statement.

      November 27, 2012 at 9:31 pm |
    • Saraswati

      @Chick-a-dee, from CNN's "About this Blog" on the Belief main page:

      "The CNN Belief Blog covers the faith angles of the day's biggest stories, from breaking news to politics to entertainment, fostering a global conversation about the role of religion and belief in readers' lives."

      The About statement expicitly mentions politics and talks about the role of religions and belief in reader's lives. When one's life is impacted by religiously based decisions that is definitely, by the above definition, appropriate to this forum.

      November 27, 2012 at 9:37 pm |
    • Akira

      @ Chick-A-Dee:
      When religious beliefs make their way into politics, they will be commented upon.
      This was MY point.

      November 27, 2012 at 11:18 pm |
    • Chick-a-dee

      @ Saraswati

      "The CNN Belief Blog covers the faith angles of the day's biggest stories, from breaking news to politics to entertainment, fostering a global conversation about the role of religion and belief in readers' lives."

      ------------------------------------------------------–
      "The CNN Belief Blog covers the faith angles of the day's biggest stories, from breaking news to politics to entertainment,"
      This means the CNN Belief Blog covers faith beliefs as they pertain to breaking news, faith beliefs as they pertain to politics, faith beliefs as they pertain to as they pertain to entertainment. The subject of each clause is the faith belief.

      This also means that the goal of The CNN Belief Blog is to direct conversation to the topics of religion and belief as in;
      "The CNN Belief Blog covers the faith ... fostering a global conversation about the role of religion and belief in readers' lives."

      "The About statement expicitly..."
      The correct spelling is explicitly which your phone probably didn't flag for spell check. If it did, you would have had already looked it up ( see http://www.thefreedictionary.com or http://www.dictionary.com ) and would know it is defined as " Fully and clearly expressed; leaving nothing implied. "

      In turn, you'd, hopefully, understand that the 'About' statement explicitly says that "The CNN Belief Blog covers the *faith angles* of the day's biggest stories, from breaking news to politics...fostering a global conversation about the role of *religion* and *belief* " (emphasis added). The statement does explicitly say "Go to the Belief Blog to discuss breaking news or politics, or entertainment." It does not say "Go to the Belief Blog to talk about accusatory, confrontational, disbelief, or as.ses.sments of personal intelligence, or what type of foot gear yo mama wears.

      Can you come to the Belief Blog and talk off topic even in a rude and antagonistic manner? Yes. It is a first amendment right as long as the individual post conforms to the Terms of Service for the website.

      Will doing so change the mind of anyone about a religious belief? Most probably not.

      Will doing so move the public agenda closer to your position? Probably not.

      Will doing so alienate and annoy the target audience? Yes. Readers are hear to discuss other things and will likely ignore off topic posts or engage in a negatively spiraling discussion. The result of that is at best to NOT persuade the audience, at worst cause the audience to cut communication and disregard the poster assuring that there will be no future opportunity to persuade.

      Will doing so achieve any positive political goal for the poster who obstinately uses this area off topic? No.

      On the other hand, CNN provides the site as a free forum. If people use it as a subst.itute for anger management therapy, I say "Have at it." Sooner or later, traffic will fall off and the host will make changes to the blog based on commercial interests.

      A bientot!

      November 27, 2012 at 11:21 pm |
  8. lionlylamb

    Should one tempt verbal aggressions for to gain an assemblage of idle gossips from which does naught in clearness become the understood? Where then is the honor of idle gossipers? Why then doeth justly in thy written Word only to have them fall upon the rocks, those hardened within their aged generational contriving? To cast one's seeds of faith worded ideals does ever fall wherever & whenever one does cast word upon the netted shorelines! Trying most valiantly to reach the shores' depths is a matter of faith's decree never to be admonished nor held in the firmness of doubts.

    November 27, 2012 at 11:12 am |
    • Chick-a-dee

      Should one tempt verbal aggressions for to gain an assemblage of idle gossips from which does naught in clearness become the understood? NO

      Where then is the honor of idle gossipers? NO WHERE

      Why then doeth justly in thy written Word only to have them fall upon the rocks, those hardened within their aged generational contriving? TO REACH A WIDER AUDIENCE OF LURKERS

      To cast one's seeds of faith worded ideals does ever fall wherever & whenever one does cast word upon the netted shorelines! YOU NEVER KNOW WHERE THEY MIGHT WIND UP

      Trying most valiantly to reach the shores' depths is a matter of faith's decree never to be admonished nor held in the firmness of doubts. TRY HARDER ;-)

      November 27, 2012 at 11:24 am |
    • Roger that

      That's great. Please tell us more. I may sound sarcastic, but I'm also sincere.

      November 27, 2012 at 11:30 am |
    • Chick-a-dee

      Who you talking to Roger that?

      November 27, 2012 at 11:40 am |
    • lionlylamb

      Tenderly Chick-a-dee,

      Where-then are one's doubters who in their vanities do avail to others their rudeness clay made minds? Is it a better thing one does to let the clay minded adrift? Whose the wiser of clay-mated minds? The man? Or the woman? Should it really matter? Does the equity of equalities show forth in randomness deeds so done in good measures? Seeking therefore is in the finding thereabout. Please be gentle with these Words of faith being sought.

      November 27, 2012 at 11:42 am |
    • Chick-a-dee

      Where-then are one's doubters who in their vanities do avail to others their rudeness clay made minds? ALL AROUND

      Is it a better thing one does to let the clay minded adrift? NO

      Whose the wiser of clay-mated minds? The man? Or the woman? Should it really matter? DON'T GENERALIZE IT'S UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL

      Does the equity of equalities show forth in randomness deeds so done in good measures? IDK

      Seeking therefore is in the finding thereabout. SEEKERS DON'T ALWAYS FIND. SOMETIMES THEY AREN'T LOOKING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

      November 27, 2012 at 11:50 am |
    • Apple Bush

      Mr. Lamb, you crazy old fuck. How are you, still spewing your night soil? Carry on.

      November 27, 2012 at 11:53 am |
    • hypatia

      can you say that without the tin hat on. the static is terrible.

      November 27, 2012 at 11:59 am |
    • lionlylamb

      Rationally Chick-a-dee,

      Do we not all seek the leavened breads of another's sliced wordings? Or in finding a slice does one eat it with meaningless generalized thoughts? Or does one stammer around like a child who does want jelly and peanut buttered upon their sliced breads of thought filled idealisms? Who shall be the leavening bread's sliced detriments of thoughtfulness ideals?

      November 27, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      A.B. Seer of things dreamingly dreamt dreams from a dreamer's balcony,,,,

      I am well A.B. and are you still spouting out slangs of nodules meant for goodness but in gest?

      November 27, 2012 at 12:15 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      Mr. Lamb, I only use the words that are appropriate.

      November 27, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
  9. myweightinwords

    What is peace?

    November 27, 2012 at 11:09 am |
    • Huebert

      Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
      Through passion I gain strength.
      Through strength I gain power.
      Through power I gain victory
      Through victory my chains are broken.

      November 27, 2012 at 11:13 am |
      • myweightinwords

        Is there no passion in peace?
        Can there be no strength in the quiet calm?
        Is there no power in silence?
        Is there no victory in standing?

        Understand that I don't advocate staying silent when words are needed, nor staying still when battle is required.

        I only think that we choose battle when there is another way.

        November 27, 2012 at 11:20 am |
    • Roger that

      A world without religion.

      November 27, 2012 at 11:15 am |
      • myweightinwords

        Until all of mankind has overcome the NEED for religion, religion of some kind will always be with us.

        And often, those who consider themselves free of religion are merely substituting something else in its place to fill that same need.

        November 27, 2012 at 11:22 am |
    • Huebert

      Myweight

      That is the Sith code, I just couldn't resist.

      Honestly I would say that peace is simply the time between wars.

      November 27, 2012 at 11:25 am |
      • myweightinwords

        I recognized it....I just...I'm feeling a little philosophical this morning. Feel free to ignore me.

        November 27, 2012 at 11:28 am |
    • lionlylamb

      myweightinwords,

      Peace is the flavor remembered as being a chalice half emptied yet half filled and full. Peace is the age of remembrance from which does come pleasurable pleasing moments distilled. Peace is not knowing war nor understanding rumors of war. Peace does follow ones footsteps ever closing upon the next step. Peace is for needed calmness never o be wailed. Pease is.

      November 27, 2012 at 11:28 am |
    • CCC

      Peace
      2302 By recalling the commandment, "You shall not kill,"93 our Lord asked for peace of heart and denounced murderous anger and hatred as immoral.
      Anger is a desire for revenge. "To desire vengeance in order to do evil to someone who should be punished is illicit," but it is praiseworthy to impose rest.itution "to correct vices and maintain justice."94 If anger reaches the point of a deliberate desire to kill or seriously wound a neighbor, it is gravely against charity; it is a mortal sin. the Lord says, "Everyone who is angry with his brother shall be liable to judgment."95
      2303 Deliberate hatred is contrary to charity. Hatred of the neighbor is a sin when one deliberately wishes him evil. Hatred of the neighbor is a grave sin when one deliberately desires him grave harm. "But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven."96
      2304 Respect for and development of human life require peace. Peace is not merely the absence of war, and it is not limited to maintaining a balance of powers between adversaries. Peace cannot be attained on earth without safeguarding the goods of persons, free communication among men, respect for the dignity of persons and peoples, and the assiduous practice of fraternity. Peace is "the tranquillity of order."97 Peace is the work of justice and the effect of charity.98
      2305 Earthly peace is the image and fruit of the peace of Christ, the messianic "Prince of Peace."99 By the blood of his Cross, "in his own person he killed the hostility,"100 he reconciled men with God and made his Church the sacrament of the unity of the human race and of its union with God. "He is our peace."101 He has declared: "Blessed are the peacemakers."102
      2306 Those who renounce violence and bloodshed and, in order to safeguard human rights, make use of those means of defense available to the weakest, bear witness to evangelical charity, provided they do so without harming the rights and obligations of other men and societies. They bear legitimate witness to the gravity of the physical and moral risks of recourse to violence, with all its destruction and death.103
      Avoiding war
      2307 The fifth commandment forbids the intentional destruction of human life. Because of the evils and injustices that accompany all war, the Church insistently urges everyone to prayer and to action so that the divine Goodness may free us from the ancient bondage of war.104
      2308 All citizens and all governments are obliged to work for the avoidance of war.
      However, "as long as the danger of war persists and there is no international authority with the necessary competence and power, governments cannot be denied the right of lawful self-defense, once all peace efforts have failed."105
      2309 The strict conditions for legitimate defense by military force require rigorous consideration. the gravity of such a decision makes it subject to rigorous conditions of moral legitimacy. At one and the same time:
      – the damage inflicted by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations must be lasting, grave, and certain;
      – all other means of putting an end to it must have been shown to be impractical or ineffective;
      – there must be serious prospects of success;
      – the use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated. the power of modem means of destruction weighs very heavily in evaluating this condition.
      These are the traditional elements enumerated in what is called the "just war" doctrine.
      The evaluation of these conditions for moral legitimacy belongs to the prudential judgment of those who have responsibility for the common good.
      2310 Public authorities, in this case, have the right and duty to impose on citizens the obligations necessary for national defense.
      Those who are sworn to serve their country in the armed forces are servants of the security and freedom of nations. If they carry out their duty honorably, they truly contribute to the common good of the nation and the maintenance of peace.106
      2311 Public authorities should make equitable provision for those who for reasons of conscience refuse to bear arms; these are nonetheless obliged to serve the human community in some other way.107
      2312 The Church and human reason both assert the permanent validity of the moral law during armed conflict. "The mere fact that war has regrettably broken out does not mean that everything becomes licit between the warring parties."108
      2313 Non-combatants, wounded soldiers, and prisoners must be respected and treated humanely.
      Actions deliberately contrary to the law of nations and to its universal principles are crimes, as are the orders that command such actions. Blind obedience does not suffice to excuse those who carry them out. Thus the extermination of a people, nation, or ethnic minority must be condemned as a mortal sin. One is morally bound to resist orders that command genocide.
      2314 "Every act of war directed to the indiscriminate destruction of whole cities or vast areas with their inhabitants is a crime against God and man, which merits firm and unequivocal condemnation."109 A danger of modern warfare is that it provides the opportunity to those who possess modern scientific weapons especially atomic, biological, or chemical weapons – to commit such crimes.
      2315 The acc.umulation of arms strikes many as a paradoxically suitable way of deterring potential adversaries from war. They see it as the most effective means of ensuring peace among nations. This method of deterrence gives rise to strong moral reservations. the arms race does not ensure peace. Far from eliminating the causes of war, it risks aggravating them. Spending enormous sums to produce ever new types of weapons impedes efforts to aid needy populations;110 it thwarts the development of peoples. Over-armament multiplies reasons for conflict and increases the danger of escalation.
      2316 The production and the sale of arms affect the common good of nations and of the international community. Hence public authorities have the right and duty to regulate them. the short-term pursuit of private or collective interests cannot legitimate undertakings that promote violence and conflict among nations and compromise the international juridical order.
      2317 Injustice, excessive economic or social inequalities, envy, distrust, and pride raging among men and nations constantly threaten peace and cause wars. Everything done to overcome these disorders contributes to building up peace and avoiding war:
      Insofar as men are sinners, the threat of war hangs over them and will so continue until Christ comes again; but insofar as they can vanquish sin by coming together in charity, violence itself will be vanquished and these words will be fulfilled: "they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more."111

      November 27, 2012 at 11:31 am |
    • Chick-a-dee

      @ Huebert: Chill out Dude. Power is not necessary and not even preferable to have. Maybe a move to Colorado or Washington state would help to get mellow.

      November 27, 2012 at 11:39 am |
    • Darth Huebert

      @Chick

      Who are you to question the ways of the force?

      November 27, 2012 at 11:45 am |
    • Chick-a-dee

      Dang! Next thing you know, I'll get bounced back into remedial Jedi school.

      November 27, 2012 at 11:52 am |
  10. kevobx

    Babylon the great mystery is called America. The first great nation is (Amalek) Great Britain. Is Abe Lincoln on the penny? *Matthew 20:13 But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny? *Luke 20:24 Shew me a penny. Whose image and superscription hath it? They answered and said, Caesar's. *Deuteronomy 8:17-18 And thou say in thine heart, My power and the might of mine hand hath gotten me this wealth. But thou shalt remember the Lord thy God: for it is he that giveth thee power to get wealth, that he may establish his covenant which he sware unto thy fathers, as it is this day.

    November 27, 2012 at 8:31 am |
    • Primewonk

      Except, of course, this is pure unadulterated bullshit.

      November 27, 2012 at 8:42 am |
    • Mirosal

      With all your inane babbling, just WHAT is your point? Your quotes from a book of fables is meaningless. Is there something original you'd like to say?

      November 27, 2012 at 8:43 am |
    • lunchbreaker

      Are you implying that there was no Rome or Ceaser?

      November 27, 2012 at 8:55 am |
    • Huebert

      Kevobx

      You do know that the bible was not written in English don't you? The word that was originally written was not "penny".

      November 27, 2012 at 9:30 am |
    • Rodents for Romney

      Oh wait. They used the word "and" in Genesis. That means the world is beginning anew. It's a game. How many similarities to ancient books can you find ? 5 points if you hit the pope.

      November 27, 2012 at 9:45 am |
  11. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    @Jeez

    Prayer changes things
    Prayer makes demons angry
    Prayer brings out the true nature of atheists
    Proven

    November 27, 2012 at 8:09 am |
    • Mirosal

      You need to prove demons exist first, otherwise you are just blowing smoke, or smoking poles. My guess is the latter.

      November 27, 2012 at 8:19 am |
    • Jeez

      You're an idiot.
      Proven

      November 27, 2012 at 8:38 am |
    • TrollAlert

      "Ronald Regonzo" who degenerates to:
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      "John 3:16" degenerates to:
      "pervert alert" is the degenerate.

      This troll is not a christian

      November 27, 2012 at 10:23 am |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs,

      November 27, 2012 at 10:27 am |
    • Religion is not healthy for children and other living things

      Lying to ourselves changes things. Mmmm...k?

      November 27, 2012 at 11:12 am |
    • HeavenSense

      Hello Prayerbot.

      November 27, 2012 at 11:27 am |
  12. niknak

    Just got up, brewing some joe, so morning all;
    I think it will be just another beautiful day without god(s).
    Maybe a bit on the chilly side though....better wear a nice sweater.

    November 27, 2012 at 7:44 am |
    • Mirosal

      May I have a cup please? If you're in a good mood, please put a shot of Jameson's in it as well.... thank you :)

      November 27, 2012 at 8:04 am |
    • lionlylamb

      Morning niknak,

      It is a good thing Life is! A cup of joe or two is good for one's thoughts in the wee hours of the day!

      November 27, 2012 at 1:26 pm |
  13. kevobx

    What is a x -mas tree? *Jeremiah 10:3-4 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. *Mark 8:24 And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees walking.

    November 27, 2012 at 7:42 am |
    • JA

      A christmas tree is purely decorative. I do not bow down or worship it. Therefore, it is not an idol to me.

      November 27, 2012 at 8:00 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Woohoo...you can quote from the buybull...how very impressive...not!! A little research would actually show that the Christmas tree pre-dates Christianity.
      "It is frequently traced to the symbolism of evergreen trees in pre-Christian winter rites, especially with the story of the Donar Oak and Saint Boniface.[6]

      According to the Encyclopædia Britannica, "The use of evergreen trees, wreaths, and garlands to symbolize eternal life was a custom of the ancient Egyptians, Chinese, and Hebrews. Tree worship was common among the pagan Europeans and survived their conversion to Christianity in the Scandinavian customs of decorating the house and barn with evergreens at the New Year to scare away the devil and of setting up a tree for the birds during Christmastime."

      Alternatively, it is identified with the "tree of paradise" of medieval mystery plays that were given on 24 December, the commemoration and name day of Adam and Eve in various countries. In such plays, a tree decorated with apples (to represent the forbidden fruit) and wafers (to represent the Eucharist and redemption) was used as a setting for the play. Like the Christmas crib, the Paradise tree was later placed in homes. The apples were replaced by round objects such as shiny red balls."

      November 27, 2012 at 9:35 am |
    • Saraswati

      @kevobx, This passage refers to idols, carved statues designated for worship. I've never heard of anyone worshiping a Christmas tree. Even in pre-christian times it wasn't an object of worship.

      November 27, 2012 at 9:42 am |
    • USCCB

      The Book of Jeremiah combines history, biography, and prophecy. It portrays a nation in crisis and introduces the reader to an extraordinary person whom the Lord called to prophesy under the trying circ.umstances of the final days of the kingdom of Judah. Jeremiah was born, perhaps about 650 B.C., of a priestly family from the village of Anathoth, two and a half miles northeast of Jerusalem. He was called to his task in the thirteenth year of King Josiah (Jer 1:2). Josiah’s reform, begun with enthusiasm and hope, ended with his death on the battlefield of Megiddo (609 B.C.) as he attempted to stop the northward march of the Egyptian Pharaoh Neco, who was going to provide assistance to the Assyrians who were in retreat before the Babylonians.
      Nineveh, the capital of Assyria, fell in 612 B.C., preparing the way for the new colossus, Babylon, which was soon to put an end to the independence of Judah.
      The prophet supported the reform of King Josiah (2 Kgs 22–23), but after the death of Josiah the old idolatry returned. Jeremiah opposed this as well as royal policy toward Babylon. Arrest, imprisonment, and public disgrace were his lot. In the nation’s apostasy Jeremiah saw the sealing of its doom. Nebuchadnezzar captured Jerusalem (598 B.C.) and carried King Jehoiachin into exile (Jer 22:24).
      During the years 598–587, Jeremiah counseled Zedekiah in the face of bitter opposition. The false prophet Hananiah proclaimed that the yoke of Babylon was broken and a strong pro-Egyptian party in Jerusalem induced Zedekiah to revolt. Nebuchadnezzar took swift vengeance; Jerusalem was destroyed in 587 and its leading citizens sent into exile.
      The prophet remained in Jerusalem, but was later forced into Egyptian exile. We do not know the details of his death. The influence of Jeremiah was greater after his death than before. The exiled community read and meditated on the lessons of the prophet; his influence is evident in Ezekiel, some of the psalms, Is 40–66, and Daniel. In the postexilic period, the Book of Jeremiah circulated in various editions.

      November 27, 2012 at 10:32 am |
    • Chick-a-dee

      See http://www.ewtn.com/library/chistory/xmastree.htm for

      The Christmas Tree: Legends, Traditions, History
      by Lino Lozzattp://www.ewtn.com/library/chistory/xmastree.htm for

      The Christmas Tree: Legends, Traditions, History
      by Lino Lozza

      November 27, 2012 at 11:02 am |
    • Chick-a-dee

      JEREMIAH, Chapter 10 is t.itled "The Folly of Idolatry". For corresponding information on the prohibitions against worshiping idols by the he.brews, reference:

      WISDOM
      Chapter 13, The Carpenter and Wooden Idols
      (Wis13:11)
      A carpenter may cut down a suitable tree
      and skillfully scra.pe off all its bark,
      And deftly plying his art
      produce something fit for daily use,
      * footnote [13:10–19] The second digression is an example of the polemic against idolatry (cf. Is 44:9–20; Jer 10:3–9; Ps 135:15–18). Whether the idols be of wood or clay, they were made by human beings and have become the source of evil.

      ISAIAH
      Chapter 44 The True God and False Gods
      (Is 44:9)
      Those who fashion idols are all nothing;
      their precious works are of no avail.
      They are their witnesses:*
      they see nothing, know nothing,
      and so they are put to shame.
      * footnote [44:9–20] A satire on the makers and worshipers of idols.

      ISAIAH
      Chapter 40 Power of God and the Vanity of Idols
      (Is 40:19)
      An idol? An artisan casts it,
      the smith plates it with gold,
      fits it with silver chains.
      * footnote * [40:19] Chains: needed to hold the idol steady when carried in processions

      ISAIAH
      Chapter 41 The Liberator of Israel
      (Is 41:7)
      The woodworker encourages the goldsmith,
      the one who beats with the hammer, him who strikes on the anvil,
      Saying of the soldering, “It is good!”
      then fastening it with nails so it will not totter.

      All these support the prohibition of idolatry by the he.brews. None of them reference Christmas trees at all.

      November 27, 2012 at 11:06 am |
  14. kevobx

    God is rest. Satan is peace. God is righteous. Satan is holy. Who are you? *Revelation 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee; for thy merchants were the great men of the earth: for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

    November 27, 2012 at 7:25 am |
    • USCCB

      The Apocalypse, or Revelation to John, the last book of the Bible, is one of the most difficult to understand because it abounds in unfamiliar and extrava.gant symbolism, which at best appears unusual to the modern reader. Symbolic language, however, is one of the chief characteristics of apocalyptic literature, of which this book is an outstanding example. Such literature enjoyed wide popularity in both Jewish and Christian circles from ca. 200 B.C. to A.D. 200.
      This book contains an account of visions in symbolic and allegorical language borrowed extensively from the Old Testament, especially Ezekiel, Zechariah, and Daniel. Whether or not these visions were real experiences of the author or simply literary conventions employed by him is an open question.
      This much, however, is certain: symbolic descriptions are not to be taken as literal descriptions, nor is the symbolism meant to be pictured realistically. One would find it difficult and repulsive to visualize a lamb with seven horns and seven eyes; yet Jesus Christ is described in precisely such words (Rev 5:6). The author used these images to suggest Christ’s universal (seven) power (horns) and knowledge (eyes). A significant feature of apocalyptic writing is the use of symbolic colors, metals, garments (Rev 1:13–16; 3:18; 4:4; 6:1–8; 17:4; 19:8), and numbers (four signifies the world, six imperfection, seven totality or perfection, twelve Israel’s tribes or the apostles, one thousand immensity). Finally the vindictive language in the book (Rev 6:9–10; 18:1–19:4) is also to be understood symbolically and not literally. The cries for vengeance on the lips of Christian martyrs that sound so harsh are in fact literary devices the author employed to evoke in the reader and hearer a feeling of horror for apostasy and rebellion that will be severely punished by God.

      November 27, 2012 at 7:42 am |
    • Chick-a-dee

      This might help. It's a translation to vernacular English, which is easier to understand for modern English speakers. It also has the complete text so the quote, read in context, can be correctly understood.

      JEREMIAH
      Chapter 10
      The Folly of Idolatry.

      1Hear the word the LORD speaks to you, house of Israel.

      2Thus says the LORD:

      Do not learn the ways of the nations,

      and have no fear of the signs in the heavens,*

      even though the nations fear them.a

      3For the carvings of the nations are nonent.ities,

      wood cut from the forest,

      Fashioned by artisans with the adze,b

      4adorned with silver and gold.

      With nails and hammers they are fastened,

      so they do not fall.c

      5Like a scarecrow in a cuc.umber field are they,

      they cannot speak;

      They must be carried about,

      for they cannot walk.

      Do not fear them, they can do no harm,

      neither can they do good.d

      6No one is like you, LORD,

      you are great,

      great and mighty is your name.e

      7Who would not fear you,

      King of the nations,

      for it is your due!

      Among all the wisest of the nations,

      and in all their domains,

      there is none like you.f

      8One and all they are stupid and senseless,

      the instruction from nonent.ities—only wood!

      9Silver plates brought from Tarshish,

      and gold from Ophir,

      The work of the artisan

      and the handiwork of the smelter,

      Clothed with violet and purple—

      all of them the work of skilled workers.

      10The LORD is truly God,

      he is the living God, the eternal King,

      Before whose anger the earth quakes,

      whose wrath the nations cannot endure.g

      11Thus shall you say of them: The gods that did not make heaven and earth—let these perish from earth and from beneath heaven!* h

      12The one who made the earth by his power,

      established the world by his wisdom,

      and by his skill stretched out the heavens.i

      13When he thunders, the waters in the heavens roar,

      and he brings up clouds from the end of the earth,

      Makes lightning flash in the rain,

      and brings forth the wind from his storehouses.

      14Everyone is too stupid to know;

      every artisan is put to shame by his idol:

      He has molded a fraud,

      without breath of life.j

      15They are nothing, objects of ridicule;

      they will perish in their time of punishment.

      16Jacob’s portion is nothing like them:

      for he is the maker of everything!

      Israel is his very own tribe,

      LORD of hosts is his name.

      Footnotes:

      * [10:2] Signs in the heavens: phenomena in the sky, such as eclipses or comets, used to predict disasters.

      * [10:11] This verse is in Aramaic.

      a. [10:2] Bar 6:6.

      b. [10:3] Wis 13:11; Is 44:9.

      c. [10:4] Is 40:19; 41:7.

      d. [10:5] Ps 115:4–8; Bar 6:15.

      e. [10:6] Ps 86:8–10.

      f. [10:7] Jer 5:22; Ps 47:2, 8.

      g. [10:10] Ps 10:16.

      h. [10:11] Ps 96:5.

      i. [10:12] Ps 104:5.

      j. [10:14] Rom 1:22–23.

      k. [10:16] Ps 33:12; Jer 31:35.

      November 27, 2012 at 11:17 am |
    • Chick-a-dee

      Ooops!... This reply should have been posted as a response to the "kevobx What is a x -mas tree?" message. It must be time for morning coffee...or Mountain Dew.

      November 27, 2012 at 11:21 am |
  15. kevobx

    Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? Who are the saints, St. Matthew, St. Mark, St. Luke, and St. John. Remember, Paul himself found the grace of God. *Revelation 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

    November 27, 2012 at 7:08 am |
    • USCCB

      The Book of Revelation cannot be adequately understood except against the historical background that occasioned its writing. Like Daniel and other apocalypses, it was composed as resistance literature to meet a crisis. The book itself suggests that the crisis was ruthless persecution of the early church by the Roman authorities; the harlot Babylon symbolizes pagan Rome, the city on seven hills (17:9). The book is, then, an exhortation and admonition to Christians of the first century to stand firm in the faith and to avoid compromise with paganism, despite the threat of adversity and martyrdom; they are to await patiently the fulfillment of God’s mighty promises. The triumph of God in the world of men and women remains a mystery, to be accepted in faith and longed for in hope. It is a triumph that unfolded in the history of Jesus of Nazareth and continues to unfold in the history of the individual Christian who follows the way of the cross, even, if necessary, to a martyr’s death.

      Though the perspective is eschatological—ultimate salvation and victory are said to take place at the end of the present age when Christ will come in glory at the parousia—the book presents the decisive struggle of Christ and his followers against Satan and his cohorts as already over. Christ’s overwhelming defeat of the kingdom of Satan ushered in the everlasting reign of God (Rev 11:15; 12:10). Even the forces of evil unwittingly carry out the divine plan (Rev 17:17), for God is the sovereign Lord of history.

      The Book of Revelation had its origin in a time of crisis, but it remains valid and meaningful for Christians of all time. In the face of apparently insuperable evil, either from within or from without, all Christians are called to trust in Jesus’ promise, “Behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age” (Mt 28:20). Those who remain steadfast in their faith and confidence in the risen Lord need have no fear. Suffering, persecution, even death by martyrdom, though remaining impenetrable mysteries of evil, do not comprise an absurd dead end. No matter what adversity or sacrifice Christians may endure, they will in the end triumph over Satan and his forces because of their fidelity to Christ the victor. This is the enduring message of the book; it is a message of hope and consolation and challenge for all who dare to believe.

      The author of the book calls himself John (Rev 1:1, 4, 9; 22:8), who because of his Christian faith has been exiled to the rocky island of Patmos, a Roman penal colony. Although he never claims to be John the apostle, whose name is attached to the fourth gospel, he was so identified by several of the early church Fathers, including Justin, Irenaeus, Clement of Alexandria, Tertullian, Cyprian, and Hippolytus. This identification, however, was denied by other Fathers, including Denis of Alexandria, Eusebius of Caesarea, Cyril of Jerusalem, Gregory Nazianzen, and John Chrysostom. Indeed, vocabulary, grammar, and style make it doubtful that the book could have been put into its present form by the same person(s) responsible for the fourth gospel. Nevertheless, there are definite linguistic and theological affinities between the two books. The tone of the letters to the seven churches (Rev 1:4–3:22) is indicative of the great authority the author enjoyed over the Christian communities in Asia. It is possible, therefore, that he was a disciple of John the apostle, who is traditionally associated with that part of the world. The date of the book in its present form is probably near the end of the reign of Domitian (A.D. 81–96), a fierce persecutor of the Christians.

      November 27, 2012 at 7:34 am |
  16. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    November 27, 2012 at 5:01 am |
    • Jeez

      Shut the fvck up, already, asshat.

      November 27, 2012 at 5:42 am |
    • Mirosal

      Tell that to the kids who were on the playground in Syria. Prayer only changed them from living to dead. How about you joining them?

      November 27, 2012 at 6:35 am |
    • TrollAlert

      "Ronald Regonzo" who degenerates to:
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      "Atheist Hunter" degenerates to:
      "Anybody know how to read? " degenerates to:
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      "Bob" degenerates to
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      "2357" degenerates to:
      "WOW" degenerates to:
      "fred" degenerates to:
      "!" degenerates to:
      "John 3:16" degenerates to:
      "pervert alert" is the degenerate.

      This troll is not a christian.

      November 27, 2012 at 10:23 am |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs.

      November 27, 2012 at 10:27 am |
    • HeavenSense

      Hi Prayerbot.

      November 27, 2012 at 11:27 am |
    • lionlylamb

      My intense needs for to declare the whereabouts of God's heavenly kingomd domains is immeasurably bound up within four verses of scripture within the KJVB. I have proclaimed them in many writings here and will ever so do until there is no disputing among others my intense need for the proclamations I do hold ever so deeply seeded in my soulfully spirited being! Yes, I am an elder man and yes I remain steadfastly upon four simple scriptures many folks could care less about. Could one and another be made ever differently so my words become as rain ever to slide off their thickened skins with little appeal? of Who dares to believe my words meant to appease other's spirited souls? Where lays the parchments of sound reasonings to be the better gains of wisdom's chalice markings?

      Four Biblical Quotes to Keep on one's Mind

      Mathew 6:33 "But seek ye first the kingdom of God!"

      Luke 17:21, "The kingdom of God is inside you!"

      John 18:36 Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world!"

      1Corinthians 3:9 "For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, [ye are] God's building!"

      Keep within one's remembrance chambers these versed words lest one knows most assuredly a different angular way for knowing God's kingdom domains whereabouts for I tell you most surely God's kingdom domains are not upon this earth's celestial plains shorelines!

      November 27, 2012 at 12:48 pm |
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