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November 28th, 2012
05:49 AM ET

Rick Warren on gay marriage

American evangelical Christian pastor Rick Warren discusses homosexuality and gay marriage with CNN's Piers Morgan.

- A. Hawkins

Filed under: Gay marriage • Homosexuality

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  1. Chadism is not

    reality and can de dangerous to a young healthy mind.
    Keep Chadism away from children.
    If you have an attack dog..........

    November 28, 2012 at 9:33 pm |
  2. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    November 28, 2012 at 8:44 pm |
    • Mohammad A Dar

      prayer changes young muslims into suicide bombers, does that count, goon?

      November 28, 2012 at 8:48 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      actions cause change; prayer wastes valuable time.

      November 28, 2012 at 9:02 pm |
    • Apostate

      Reading the bible causes apostacy

      November 28, 2012 at 9:11 pm |
    • Chadism

      Oh, please stop I have to spit.

      November 28, 2012 at 9:17 pm |
    • Chadism source of filthyEvangelicalism©

      Absurdity of spitting on internet. Goon.

      November 28, 2012 at 9:34 pm |
  3. hinduism by Judaism self center ,secularism source of hindu filthy hinduism, racism.

    religions in middle east are falafelism, corruption of truth by Thin gay criminal Kings and their criminal Prophets Mo hammads, fortune tellers, expect nothing better, they were invented not to unite gay community, but to divide gay community humanity, a way to make them gentile, slave.

    November 28, 2012 at 8:37 pm |
    • hinduism by Judaism self center ,secularism source of hindu filthy hinduism, racism.

      shut up Dar, look in mirror one more time, with your filthy over grown beard, who is closer to money, goon?

      November 28, 2012 at 8:42 pm |
  4. GodFreeNow

    Methinks he doth protest too much.

    November 28, 2012 at 8:05 pm |
  5. hinduism by Judaism self center ,secularism source of hindu filthy hinduism, racism.

    My behavior is reflection of my orientation, orientation in my family run filthy gay ism is source of wahhabism filthiness of behavior, my father Taliban cross dresser, goon, brought the gayism on our family, crook

    November 28, 2012 at 8:02 pm |
    • hinduism by Judaism self center ,secularism source of hindu filthy hinduism, racism.

      hinduism, absurdity of a hindu, ID thief.

      November 28, 2012 at 8:09 pm |
  6. Bootyfunk

    listen to rick warren try to dance around his bigotry. religion promotes prejudice. be like us, or we condemn you to hell. disgusting. christianity is the greatest force for h.omophobia, misogyny and prejudice on this planet. the bible supports slavery, men ruling over women with an iron fist and it says to kill g.ays, disobedient children, non-virgin brides and anyone working the weekend. how can people follow this book? the bible is atrocious.

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkXOwBIRX7Y&w=640&h=390]

    November 28, 2012 at 8:01 pm |
    • hinduism by Judaism self center ,secularism source of hindu filthy hinduism, racism.

      religions are hinduism corruption of truth by hind criminal Kings and their hindu criminal Prophets, fortune tellers, expect nothing better, they were invented not to unite humanity, but to divide humanity, a way to make them gentile, slave.

      November 28, 2012 at 8:07 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      pls find a babel fish and put it in your ear.

      November 28, 2012 at 8:09 pm |
    • rc

      What's that you were saying about prejudice, you hypocrite?

      November 28, 2012 at 8:54 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      sounds like you know a lot about hypocrisy.

      yes, i admit i'm prejudice against racially prejudice people, and people that are prejudice against women and g.ays too. so i guess you're right, i'm prejudiced too - against ignorant hateful people.

      November 28, 2012 at 9:01 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Somehow, I don't think he'll get the babel fish reference. =)

      November 28, 2012 at 9:03 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      for you, Moby :)

      [God] puts an apple tree in the middle of [the Garden of Eden] and says, do what you like guys, oh, but don't eat the apple. Surprise surprise, they eat it and he leaps out from behind a bush shouting "Gotcha." It wouldn't have made any difference if they hadn't eaten it...Because if you're dealing with somebody who has the sort of mentality which likes leaving hats on the pavement with bricks under them you know perfectly well they won't give up. They'll get you in the end.
      - Douglas Adams

      November 28, 2012 at 9:11 pm |
  7. TR6

    “it is not the orientation that is sinful but the behavior”

    EXACTLY! The Christian orientation itself is not vile, despikable or abhorrent. It’s only when they act on their beliefs that they become a revolting and sickening blight on society

    November 28, 2012 at 7:40 pm |
    • Chad

      Please cite the scientific peer review studies that proves "Christian orientation itself. "

      November 28, 2012 at 7:44 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Do you even know why that's such a stupid demand, Chad?

      November 28, 2012 at 7:45 pm |
    • hinduism by Judaism self center ,secularism source of hindu filthy hinduism, racism.

      Behavior is reflection of orientation, orientation in hindu filthy gay ism is source of hinduism filthiness of behavior.

      November 28, 2012 at 7:47 pm |
    • Chad

      The same reason TR6 made a stupid assertion.

      November 28, 2012 at 7:47 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      That assertion was no more stupid than any of yours, Chard. And you are wrong - as usual. Your post is idiotic because you never provide proof for your claims but continually demand others provide it.

      November 28, 2012 at 7:50 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Chad, your demand was stupid as all fvck because the author was providing philosophical opinion. He said the equivalent of: "Pork colored pea-green with food coloring makes people queasy whether or not the meat is actually tainted." There is no peer-review process for those sorts of statements.

      Secondly, you asked for a citation of a shortened phrase that did not express even one side of a subject-predicate conclusion. As if someone asked me for a peer-review of "queasy whether or not."

      November 28, 2012 at 7:58 pm |
    • John

      Please give your reasoning that TR6 comment was a stupid assertion any more than yours is? Pleasese try.

      November 28, 2012 at 8:10 pm |
    • End Religion

      Careful, everyone. We don't want to trigger Chadism.

      November 28, 2012 at 8:44 pm |
    • the AnViL

      maybe there's an xian orientation gene.

      or maybe it's a virus?

      we should be looking for a cure. when one becomes available i wonder how many xians will line up for their inoculation.

      November 29, 2012 at 12:12 am |
  8. arturo Cruz

    fear it when .. God will give them over to the delusion....the lie can only go as far as the truth will let it... then accountability... are you ready Amercia???

    November 28, 2012 at 7:37 pm |
  9. YeahRight

    "which is why you keep losing the arguments and resort to bullying tactics."

    I take offense with this statement I have been posting experts opinions on this subject. The experts have stated that heterosexual behavior and homosexual behavior are normal aspects of human sexuality. Despite the persistence of stereotypes that portray lesbian, gay, and bisexual people as disturbed, several decades of research and clinical experience have led all mainstream medical and mental health organizations in this country to conclude that these orientations represent normal forms of human experience. The American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Counseling Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the American School Counselor Association, the National Association of School Psychologists, and the National Association of SocialWorkers, together representing more than 480,000 mental health professionals, have all taken the position that homosexuality is not a mental disorder and thus is not something that needs to or can be “cured."

    November 28, 2012 at 7:24 pm |
    • hinduism by Judaism self center ,secularism source of hindu filthy hinduism, racism.

      By Dr. hinduism, ignorant in following of hindu sanatans, filthy goons.

      November 28, 2012 at 7:41 pm |
  10. Chadism

    I am the response to Atheism is, your insults will not deflect me from my cause, Chadism will not pervail as long as I have a finger to poke then post.

    November 28, 2012 at 7:10 pm |
    • Truth

      Chadism = sore loser bully.

      November 28, 2012 at 7:11 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Truth=dumbazz who got handed his butt.

      November 28, 2012 at 7:15 pm |
    • Chadism

      PS: don't bother praying it is just a waste of time.

      November 28, 2012 at 7:17 pm |
    • Chadism

      Truth
      I am one hell of a good winner, a thankful loser sounds right christian, I will pass on that, thanks ayway.

      November 28, 2012 at 7:20 pm |
    • Truth

      Actually you lost pages ago but that's typical of egotistical bullies like you.

      November 28, 2012 at 7:21 pm |
    • Chadism

      Tom, Tom TPS If you take the time to read all of the Chadism posts, I hope you will not be as hard on me as the rest of the posters. I was trying to show that the other side can't take the crap that they throw at the non-believers, intresting reactions. If I went to far what are the fred's of the world doing. With respect for your opinion.

      November 28, 2012 at 7:27 pm |
    • Truth

      fred has resorted to your tactics? No, you did that all yourself and is known as cyber bullying.

      November 28, 2012 at 7:35 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Oh, stop whining, Truth. If it bothers you so much, leave.

      November 28, 2012 at 7:48 pm |
    • Truth

      Spoken like a true bully Tom, Tom.

      November 28, 2012 at 7:50 pm |
    • Chadism

      Truth
      Butt out will you, you have made your point. I am A big bully that is picking on poor Chad that can't defend himself and you find it neccesary to defend him. Fine I get it; I have hurt not only Chad's feelings but the whole blogs feelings, when you stop Atheism is, I will stop, fair. Rather surprised you claim to be an atheist, most have a sense of the ridiculous or humor, you seem to fail at that.
      .

      November 28, 2012 at 7:51 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Spoken like a wuss who thought this was a tea party. If you don't like the answers you get here, then stop asking the questions. Wave your hanky and flounce off.

      November 28, 2012 at 7:52 pm |
    • Truth

      More bullying from Chadism continuing to prove my point about cyber bullying.

      November 28, 2012 at 7:52 pm |
    • Truth

      More bullying from Tom, Tom, thanks for demonstrating it so well.

      November 28, 2012 at 7:54 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Doofus, you don't have a clue what cyber-bullying is. Go find out.

      November 28, 2012 at 7:54 pm |
    • Truth

      Another great example.

      November 28, 2012 at 7:54 pm |
    • Actually?

      Tom is the town drunk on this site, have some more to drink.

      November 28, 2012 at 7:56 pm |
  11. Chadism

    C'mon try and post a Chadism, you can do it , just try.

    November 28, 2012 at 6:30 pm |
    • Truth

      All you are proving is Chad got to you and you're a sore loser.

      November 28, 2012 at 6:34 pm |
    • John

      Chadism = Tom Tom

      November 28, 2012 at 6:35 pm |
    • Chadism

      Such insight truth, I indeed have humbled myself before the Chad, is that not what the Chad seeks? As to being a loser, sorry, I will leave that to the christians all those offerings, all those prayers for naught, surprise!!!

      November 28, 2012 at 6:42 pm |
    • Truth

      No all you've done is prove your an idiot just like Chad because your ego is bruised and you're a bully.

      November 28, 2012 at 6:44 pm |
    • Chadism

      John
      The Tom, Tom, TPS, is far to inteligent to use such schoolboy tactics to defame the Chad, this is of course the work of the Devil, LOL, hee hee.

      November 28, 2012 at 6:47 pm |
    • GetReal

      Chadism, you're a disgrace to atheists everywhere, grow up.

      November 28, 2012 at 6:47 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I just got home about 15 minutes ago. Sorry to disappoint you, John, but you are wrong. I don't post from work, and I was there until after 6.

      November 28, 2012 at 6:49 pm |
    • == o ==

      @Chadism C'mon try and post a Chadism, you can do it , just try.
      @== o == You'll need to disprove that I'm trying to post a Chadism.

      November 28, 2012 at 6:51 pm |
    • Bring'em young

      GetReal
      Seconded
      Chadism just likes picking on the weak minded, short sighted people who need their faith to feel purpose.

      Chdism. Why don't you switch to one of your other names for a while, you have grown very tiresome

      November 28, 2012 at 6:51 pm |
    • John

      John = HeavenSent

      November 28, 2012 at 6:52 pm |
    • KRHODES

      Evidently you are high or stupid and probably both. If you have nothing worth saying then don't saw anything.

      November 28, 2012 at 6:53 pm |
    • Chadism

      OK, truth, that is absurd, if there is any bully pushing his agenda on this blog it is the Chad, that is why I/we choose to attack his false belief system, if you wish to defend the Chad go ahead. But like the Chad if you can't take it, do not try and dish it out. Stick together you christian apologists it will be all you have left in the future, your days are numbered.

      November 28, 2012 at 6:57 pm |
    • Truth

      Chadism I am an atheist moron, but you are a bully and a disgrace on this board. It's obvious Chad got to you and you couldn't take it which is why you are posting so many stupid responses. Fight with facts not stupidity.

      November 28, 2012 at 7:00 pm |
    • GetReal

      Not all atheists are losers like Chadism.

      November 28, 2012 at 7:03 pm |
    • Chadism

      I shall troll as Chadism, please press the report abuse feature, make me stop, I can't help myself.

      November 28, 2012 at 7:06 pm |
    • Bring'em young

      Truth
      It took a lot of courage to call yourself an atheist moron. I applaud you.
      You might want to try a comma in there next time

      November 28, 2012 at 7:09 pm |
    • Truth

      "You might want to try a comma in there next time"

      Just like you might want to use a period?

      November 28, 2012 at 7:10 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Hahahahhaa, Truth has now learned the value of punctuation. While a period would have been nice at the end of a sentence, the lack of a comma in yours is a critical error. And hilarious.

      November 28, 2012 at 7:13 pm |
    • Bring'em young

      my period isn't due for a while longer but thanks for the concern

      November 28, 2012 at 7:16 pm |
    • Truth

      Keep proving to the world atheists are nothing more than emotional immature jerks, which is why you keep losing the arguments and resort to bullying tactics.

      November 28, 2012 at 7:20 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      Truth wrote:
      Keep proving to the world atheists are nothing more than emotional immature jerks, which is why you keep losing the arguments and resort to bullying tactics.

      sure is funny when someone cries about name calling then calls the person names back. lol.

      November 28, 2012 at 8:04 pm |
  12. Chadism

    In the begining was diddley squat, a big bang, why not? Seven days or seven eras, well that just is not going to cut it when life is discovered outside of earth, is it? The Chad and the other christian apologists will just have to sit down and figure out a whole new lne of BS to keep the money and power that they are all about. My Chadism's are getting weaker and weaker, could use a little help here.

    November 28, 2012 at 6:24 pm |
  13. Chadism

    I believe in the supernatural, you have too to believe in the jesus story, that is the supernational is of or relating to an order of existance beyond the visible order of the universe; especially relating to a god, demi god, spirit or devil. I believe in magic, so cool.

    November 28, 2012 at 6:15 pm |
  14. Chadism

    I am the epitome of all things religious, the christian apologist at his finest. Christian apoligetics is a field of christian theology which aims to present a rational basis for the christian faith, defends the faith against objections and attempts to expose the flaws of other world views. That is their mandate, all of their arguements end up with the same conclusion it is "gods truth". I am the Chad, so it is written, so shall it be.

    November 28, 2012 at 5:55 pm |
    • hinduism by Judaism self center ,secularism source of hindu filthy hinduism, racism.

      Masters of hinduism, deception. To learn hinduism, illegality of followers of hindu Mithra ism savior ism, labeled as Christianity, religion of hindu pagan Romans, please visit limitisthetruth.com.

      November 28, 2012 at 6:09 pm |
    • JFCanton

      Apologetics can be done right and it can be done wrong. If it's that simple, it would be wrong.

      November 28, 2012 at 6:48 pm |
  15. Chadism

    Mama K suggested you should get out and find some real freinds, you know other people, not the imaginary ones in your head. Not really a Chadism, but sage advice from someone that cares, do the right thing Chad, shut down the computer and get out and about. M. Slick is not the only freind you need.

    November 28, 2012 at 5:36 pm |
    • Mohammad A Dar

      Mama K also suggested, never let carpet licking camel to throw head under your tent, from her own experience.

      November 28, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
    • Chadism

      Moh.... A Dar
      Please to forgive my ignorance but how many toes does your average camel have?

      November 28, 2012 at 6:36 pm |
  16. lol??

    Americultians: We be scientifics and live by da proofs. "We believe in kweers activities."

    November 28, 2012 at 5:36 pm |
    • Erik

      " We be scientifics and live by da proofs. "We believe in kweers activities.""

      Yes we do. Being gay is not a choice science, in fact, is actually not in dispute on this matter.

      All major medical professional organizations concur that sexual orientation is not a choice and cannot be changed, from gay to straight or otherwise. The American, Canadian, Australian, New Zealand, and European Psychological, Psychiatric, and Medical Associations all agree with this, as does the World Health Organization and the medical organizations of Japan, China, and most recently, Thailand. Furthermore, attempts to change one's sexual orientation can be psychologically damaging, and cause great inner turmoil and depression, especially for Christian gays and lesbians.

      Reparative therapy, also called conversion therapy or reorientation therapy, "counsels" LGBT persons to pray fervently and study Bible verses, often utilizing 12-step techniques that are used to treat sexual addictions or trauma. Such Christian councilors are pathologizing homosexuality, which is not a pathology but is a sexual orientation. Psychologically, that's very dangerous territory to tread on. All of the above-mentioned medical professional organizations, in addition to the American and European Counseling Associations, stand strongly opposed to any form of reparative therapy.

      In my home country, Norway, reparative therapy is officially considered to be ethical malpractice. But there are many countries that do not regulate the practice, and many others that remain largely silent and even passively supportive of it (such as the Philippines). Groups that operate such "therapy" in the Philippines are the Evangelical Bagong Pag-asa, and the Catholic Courage Philippines.

      The scientific evidence of the innateness of homosexuality, bisexuality, and transgenderism is overwhelming, and more peer-reviewed studies which bolster this fact are being added all the time. Science has long regarded sexual orientation – and that's all sexual orientations, including heterosexuality – as a phenotype. Simply put, a phenotype is an observable set of properties that varies among individuals and is deeply rooted in biology. For the scientific community, the role of genetics in sexuality is about as "disputable" as the role of evolution in biology.

      On the second point, that there is no conclusion that there is a "gay gene," they are right. No so-called gay gene has been found, and it's highly unlikely that one ever will. This is where conservative Christians and Muslims quickly say "See, I told you so! There's no gay gene, so being gay is a choice!"

      Take this interesting paragraph I found on an Evangelical website: "The attempt to prove that homosexuality is determined biologically has been dealt a knockout punch. An American Psychological Association publication includes an admission that there's no homosexual "gene" – meaning it's not likely that homosexuals are 'born that way.'"

      But that's not at all what it means, and it seems Evangelicals are plucking out stand-alone phrases from scientific reports and removing them from their context. This is known in academia as the fallacy of suppressed evidence. Interestingly, this is also what they have a habit of doing with verses from the Bible.

      This idea of sexuality being a choice is such a bizarre notion to me as a man of science. Many of these reparative "therapists" are basing this concept on a random Bible verse or two. When you hold those up against the mountain of scientific research that has been conducted, peer-reviewed, and then peer-reviewed again, it absolutely holds no water. A person's sexuality – whether heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual – is a very deep biological piece of who that person is as an individual.

      The fact that a so-called "gay gene" has not been discovered does not mean that homosexuality is not genetic in its causation. This is understandably something that can seem a bit strange to those who have not been educated in fields of science and advanced biology, and it is also why people who are not scientists ought not try to explain the processes in simple black-and-white terms. There is no gay gene, but there is also no "height gene" or "skin tone gene" or "left-handed gene." These, like sexuality, have a heritable aspect, but no one dominant gene is responsible for them.

      Many genes, working in sync, contribute to the phenotype and therefore do have a role in sexual orientation. In many animal model systems, for example, the precise genes involved in sexual partner selection have been identified, and their neuro-biochemical pathways have been worked out in great detail. A great number of these mechanisms have been preserved evolutionarily in humans, just as they are for every other behavioral trait we know (including heterosexuality).

      Furthermore, there are many biologic traits which are not specifically genetic but are biologic nonetheless. These traits are rooted in hormonal influences, contributed especially during the early stages of fetal development. This too is indisputable and based on extensive peer-reviewed research the world over. Such prenatal hormonal influences are not genetic per se, but are inborn, natural, and biologic nevertheless.

      Having said that, in the realm of legal rights, partnership rights, and anti-discrimination protections, the gay gene vs. choice debate is actually quite irrelevant. Whether or not something is a choice is not a suitable criterion for whether someone should have equal rights and protections. Religion is indisputably a choice, but that fact is a not a valid argument for discriminating against a particular religion.

      November 28, 2012 at 5:39 pm |
    • lol??

      erik, every time I use a restroom at a state park I see your drawings. Will you please just stop?

      November 28, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
    • lol??

      Taking a dump and having s e x are different. Get it?

      November 28, 2012 at 5:51 pm |
  17. Chadism

    Peer review, not likely, I have no peers, I am a force only onto myself, your silly comments mean nothing to such as MYSELF. The Chad.

    November 28, 2012 at 5:26 pm |
  18. Chadism

    No human can match my intellect or debating skills, those that try I easily dismiss. I am the Chad you will have no other.....

    November 28, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
    • hinduism by Judaism self center ,secularism source of hindu filthy hinduism, racism.

      You must be god of hindu's, ignorant monkey.

      November 28, 2012 at 6:13 pm |
  19. Chadism

    I have said I do not bother to defend anything other than the Judeo-Christian religion and all others are not worthy of the effort to know or defend, that is why I have such a narrow view of the rest of the non-christian world, screw them so to speak. The Chad.

    November 28, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
  20. lol??

    Demonocrat's motto," We don't see no stinkin' god, only qweers."

    November 28, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
    • lol??

      Sewage treatment plants must be open 24 hr for their enjoyment. Da SHMeeeLLL is like back home.

      November 28, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
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