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Pat Robertson: "There was a time when these giant reptiles were on the Earth, and it was before the time of the Bible."
November 29th, 2012
04:04 PM ET

Pat Robertson challenges creationism

By Dan Merica, CNN

Washington (CNN) – Televangelist Pat Robertson challenged the idea that Earth is 6,000 years old this week, saying the man who many credit with conceiving the idea, former Archbishop of Ireland James Ussher, “wasn’t inspired by the Lord when he said that it all took 6,000 years.”

The statement was in response to a question Robertson fielded Tuesday from a viewer on his Christian Broadcasting Network show "The 700 Club.” In a submitted question, the viewer wrote that one of her biggest fears was that her children and husband would not go to heaven “because they question why the Bible could not explain the existence of dinosaurs.”

“You go back in time, you've got radiocarbon dating. You got all these things, and you've got the carcasses of dinosaurs frozen in time out in the Dakotas,” Robertson said. “They're out there. So, there was a time when these giant reptiles were on the Earth, and it was before the time of the Bible. So, don't try and cover it up and make like everything was 6,000 years. That's not the Bible.”

Before answering the question, Robertson acknowledged the statement was controversial by saying, “I know that people will probably try to lynch me when I say this.”

“If you fight science, you are going to lose your children, and I believe in telling them the way it was,” Robertson concluded.

Forty-six percent of Americans believe that God created humans in their present form at one point within the past 10,000 years, according to a survey released by Gallup in June. That number has remained unchanged for the past 30 years, since 1982, when Gallup first asked the question on creationism versus evolution.

The Gallup poll has not specifically asked about views on the age of the Earth.

Ussher’s work, from the mid-1600s, is widely cited by creationists as evidence that Earth is only a few thousand years old. Answer in Genesis, the famed Christian creationist ministry behind the Creation Museum in Petersburg, Kentucky, cites Ussher as proof of Earth’s age. They describe the archbishop as “a brilliant scholar who had very good reasons for his conclusions concerning the date of creation.”

For Christians who read the creation account in Genesis literally, the six days in the account are strictly 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution. Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth, and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years.

Most scientists, however, agree that the Earth is 4.5 billion years old and the universe is 14.5 billion years old.

The idea of creationism has been scorned by the mainstream scientific community since shortly after Charles Darwin introduced "The Origin of Species" in 1859. By 1880, The American Naturalists, a science journal, reported nearly every major university in America was teaching evolution.

The question about Earth’s age has been in the news recently. Earlier this month, Republican Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida attempted to walk the line between science and faith-based creationism in remarks that that provoked the ire of liberal blogs and left the door open to creationism.

“I'm not a scientist, man,” Rubio told GQ’s Micheal Hainey. “I can tell you what recorded history says, I can tell you what the Bible says, but I think that's a dispute amongst theologians and I think it has nothing to do with the gross domestic product or economic growth of the United States.”

– CNN’s Eric Marrapodi contributed to this report.

- Dan Merica

Filed under: Christianity • Creationism • Evolution

soundoff (4,408 Responses)
  1. Michael, Chapel Hill

    What science says is what they know;while what the WORD OF GOD SAYS IS THE TRUTH. Science is like blind men figuring out the shape of an elephant; they know little. Little knowledge does not stand against the TRUTH.

    November 30, 2012 at 8:52 am |
    • Theo

      Which god ? i just talked to some greek people that think Zeus is still god and they have the same proof he is real that you do ? in fact all religious have the same proofs. ( some old book and brainwash drones )

      November 30, 2012 at 9:01 am |
    • Primewonk

      "what the of WORD OF GOD SAYS IS THE TRUTH"

      Your word of god says the earth was created "in the beginning". Science shows that the earth did not form until 9,000,000,000 years after the universe started expanding.

      When your god screws up the very first verse of his book, it doesn't bode well for the rest.

      November 30, 2012 at 9:01 am |
    • medallon

      Science has a methodology to prove and disprove, the word of the bible are stories handed down through generations with no proof whatsoever, just fairy tales. Who is blind now? The parents who believe god will save their daughter from illness and allow her to die, or those who allow medical science to help with proven methodologies to cure her?
      Your faith has blinded you to reality.

      November 30, 2012 at 9:01 am |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Truth cannot be just asserted....and that is all you are doing....

      November 30, 2012 at 9:02 am |
    • Mr. White

      I'd rather try to figure out what an elephant looks like than sit obediently while being told "this is an elephant, do not dispute me."

      November 30, 2012 at 9:05 am |
    • snowboarder

      michael – there is no word of god. only the words of men.

      November 30, 2012 at 9:10 am |
    • JMO

      Why is it the more "God" people get in them, the more they sound like a raving lunatic?

      November 30, 2012 at 9:24 am |
    • snowboarder

      jmo – religious themes are common in mental illness.

      November 30, 2012 at 9:33 am |
    • Reasonable Logic

      Hey C NN how about "Creating" a Non belief page where all these haters can spew their vitriole and pat themselves on the backs for accomplishing nothing.

      November 30, 2012 at 9:54 am |
  2. Sebastian2

    Almost spit my morning coffee through my nose when I read that article.
    I never thought in my lifetime I would EVER say the following words, but here goes: I agree with Pat Robertson!

    There is nothing against God or against Christianity by believing in scientific facts. My wife is a Christian and she believes the miracle of Creation is expressed through the big bang and evolution; that these processes are a means through which it all happens. The bible is largely allegory; written in a time before science and before the discovery of dinosaurs. It couldn't possibly account for evolution any more than it could've predicted cars, cell phones or the internet....

    November 30, 2012 at 8:51 am |
  3. Doc Vestibule

    The Universe only appears to be super old because The Creator willed it thus.
    Man is the predilect object of Creation and the entire Universe exists as it does simply to have us in it.
    God is anthropocentric – it says here right on the label.
    The rest of the universe, oh so simple and boring compared to humanity, is simply window dressing – God really concentrated when making The Earth as opposed to, say – the Andromeda galaxy.
    You see, when God was creating the Earth he placed it in a time dilation bubble in order to give it the attention it needed.
    This is how we see light from distant galaxies – they are, relativistically speaking, billions of years old – but thanks to God's chronoton singularity, we are only a few thousand years old.
    God bestowed certain seemingly normal objects with chronoton field generation capability, like Moses' staff and Noah's ark. How else did the seas part or the ark able to support two of every animal despite it's physical dimensions?
    In recent studies, credible theologians have revealed that the physical dimensions of Noah's Ark are actually much, much smaller than those depicted in the Bible. They theorize that the source texts were modified to be more believable as nobody would be able to imagine all life on Earth fitting into a box no bigger than a phone booth.
    The oral histories of a small, reclusive sect of ultra-orthodox Jews say that the Ark made a "fwomp fwomp fwomp" sound before it gradually faded from sight. Stone tablets retrieved from this same sect show that the name "Noah" is actually an ancient Hebrew word from a long lost dialect that translates to "Doctor".
    They also found evidence that Moses' staff was really a small, hand held device about the size of a pen that emitted a high pitched squeal and glowing green light. "Staff" also appears to be a mistranslation. The original word was "screwdriver".

    November 30, 2012 at 8:43 am |
    • bob

      You sir are probably one of the most ignorant if not down right Crazy people this earth

      do you really believe the BS you are spewing ? or just trolling ?

      November 30, 2012 at 8:51 am |
    • J.C.

      Thank you for a hearty laugh this morning.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:53 am |
    • Nietodarwin

      You don't need words, language, bibles, gods, or other religions to know EVOLUTION IS FACT. Take 2 minutes and read the wikipedia definition of evolution. It holds true at EVERY LEVEL OF LIFE , from species, to proteins, to DNA. IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. (You do believe in gravity don't you? You do believe that there are atomic bombs don't you.) All human cultures have evolved with religion, and now we are evolving away from it. Since "creationist kids" are being left behind in biology classes, you are lowering your genes chances of being around in 1000 years, you will have no descendants. Bibles will soon be found in museums only. GO NOW, Read about evolution. Quit posting half truths which are ZERO TRUTH.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:53 am |
    • J.C.

      Bob, lighten up. It's satire!

      November 30, 2012 at 8:54 am |
    • snowboarder

      a doctor who reference. priceless.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:55 am |
    • J.C.

      No humor among my fellow evolutionist this morning, apparently.
      Guess you need to post a disclaimer, Doc.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:56 am |
    • JustRight

      Best. Post. Ever
      Still cracking up

      November 30, 2012 at 9:00 am |
    • Baby Jesus doesn't smile.

      J.C.
      Christianity and humor don't go together all that well.

      November 30, 2012 at 9:01 am |
    • Simran

      Oh come on Doc, how can u challenge the word of god? God made the universe. He can pretty well figure out how to acco.modate all his creation in a phone booth! That is why they call him god.

      November 30, 2012 at 9:04 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @Simran
      I'm not contesting it! We all know that the Ark was bigger on the inside.
      Leviticus is full of rules of conduct for the Hebrew people, but there was one particular passage that caused so much confusion and strife at the Nicene Council that they elected to omit it from the Bible instead of argue endlessly about translations. Scaps of that ancient text were found the same cave as the Dead Sea Scrolls but have yet to be publically released. The text seems to be proclamations from a long forgotten prophet, but there is little context to make any sense of them. They include: "run", "don't blink", and a thoroughly confusing psalm praising the virtues of bow ties.

      November 30, 2012 at 9:13 am |
    • Baby Jesus doesn't smile.

      Simran
      Because neither I, baby jesus, or god ever existed. Understand now, no word of god just a man made story.

      November 30, 2012 at 9:13 am |
    • Simran

      Hey Baby Jesus.
      I get it, but they don't!!! Sattire, remember!

      November 30, 2012 at 9:17 am |
    • Baby Jesus doesn't smile.

      Doc
      Does the text include instructions on how to tie the damn thing? I have yet to master the art and am running out of time.

      November 30, 2012 at 9:26 am |
    • Simran

      @ Doc,
      Mmmh.... Bow ties?I hope this is not what happened.....

      A man is crawling through the Sahara desert when he is approached by another man riding on a camel. As the rider approaches, the crawling man whispers through his parched lips, "Water ... please ... can you give ... water ..."

      "I'm sorry," replies the man on the camel, "I don't have any water with me. But I'd be delighted to sell you a Jesus necktie."

      "Necktie?" whispers the man. "I need water!"

      "They're only four dollars apiece."

      "I need water."

      "Okay, okay, two for seven dollars."

      "Please! I need water!" the man exclaims.

      "I don't have any water, all I have are ties," replies the salesman, as he heads off into the distance.

      By now the man has lost all track of time, crawling through the desert seemingly for days. Finally, nearly dead, with clothes tattered and skin peeling under the relentless sun, he comes upon a church. Summoning his last bit of strength, he staggers to the door and confronts the pastor.

      "Water ... can I get ... water," the dying man pleads.

      "I'm sorry, sir. Our dress code requires a tie" replies the pastor.

      November 30, 2012 at 9:27 am |
    • Gabe

      You, sir, win the Internet. Congratulations.

      I think this is most awesome thing I've read in ages. Caught me totally off guard.

      November 30, 2012 at 9:32 am |
    • John Simpleton

      Mind. Blown.

      November 30, 2012 at 10:10 am |
    • andreybar

      I like it

      November 30, 2012 at 10:31 am |
  4. Rico53

    The bible does tell of dinosaurs ,"Job 40:15" Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
    16. Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.
    17. He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
    18. His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.
    In KJV the behemoths tail is described as the size of a Lebanon ceder tree, look this up on the internet a Lebanon ceder trees trunk is too large to rap your arms around and grows to be 80 ft in height.
    This Behemoth is the dinosaur.

    November 30, 2012 at 8:43 am |
    • snowboarder

      rico – and is purported to breath fire. sounds like fiction to me.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:46 am |
    • Primewonk

      " the navel of his belly."

      The Claude Dinosauria were not mammals, thus they did not have navels.

      "the sinews of his stones are wrapped together"

      The Claude Dinosauria did not have external genitalia.

      Sorry.

      November 30, 2012 at 9:18 am |
  5. angryersmell

    "I'm no scientist, man...but I am a Theologian, and I say on these topics, listen to the scientists."

    – Pat Robertson

    Thank you, Pat. You are rekindling my faith, one reasonable, logical statement at a time.

    November 30, 2012 at 8:41 am |
  6. mattski

    There's more to the fallacy than the age of the planet, but that's probably the funniest one. By the way, the article doesn't explain it – – the age of 6000 years was determined by adding up the lineage starting with Adam. He went through "so-and-so begat so-and-so, who begat so-and-so", and then added up all their ages to get the number of 6000 years.

    November 30, 2012 at 8:37 am |
    • snowboarder

      true, so if you put realistic lifetimes instead of the fallacious millenial lifetimes of genesis, the earth is probably only about 3000 years old.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:41 am |
  7. David

    6,000 years could be right or perhaps too long by a factor of 10 making it 600 years. If we define "year" as a "cosmic year": meaning the time it takes our planet (and the sun and other planets in our solar system) to make 1 orbit around the Milky Way Galaxy since such an orbit takes about 250 million earth years. This then equates to 1.38×10 to the 10th or 11th power (13.8 billion earth years). Otherwise, 6,000 years is a tad short I would say.

    November 30, 2012 at 8:37 am |
    • snowboarder

      dave – or the most likely answer is that the genesis account could simply be the imaginings of primitive men.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:39 am |
    • bob

      I know these bible thumpers put all this energy into WHY this obviously made up tory is true

      November 30, 2012 at 8:52 am |
  8. branden

    at the time, darwin's theory helped legitimize the genocide of the aborigine population of tasmania by the british.

    what rubio is saying is true, don't get lost in details without answers in objective reality. the only ppl who get super upset about issues like this are either ppl insecure about their beliefs or immature about boundaries concerning another individual's right to believe what they choose in life.

    and robertson is now irrelevant.

    November 30, 2012 at 8:34 am |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Darwins's theory did no such thing. That is like arguing the theories leading up to the splitting of the atom ligitimized the killing of all the people at Hiroshima. You are an idiot.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:52 am |
    • branden

      i respect your right to disagree.

      November 30, 2012 at 9:20 am |
  9. weezer

    First the legalize weed thing, now evolution! I'm really starting to like ol' Pat. Rather than finding religion, the evangelist is finding intelligence in his old age - and by talking about it is showing he's a pretty ballsy guy. My hat is off to him.

    Snoop Doggy Darwin!

    November 30, 2012 at 8:34 am |
  10. snowboarder

    once you come to the realization that the bible is not a literal and infallible docu_ment, but simply a collection of myths and legends, there is no reason to take any of it seriously.

    November 30, 2012 at 8:32 am |
    • via2

      The Holy Bible, the Word of God is absolutely infallible. Is Israel a REAL place? Is Syria a REAL place? Is Egypt a REAL place? is Saudi Arabi a REAL place? was the Roman Empire a REAL place? Yet the Bible contains historical fact about all these places and you say a book of myths????

      November 30, 2012 at 8:47 am |
    • snowboarder

      via – yes, writers of fiction often use real locations as settings. it makes the story more believable.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:51 am |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      So your logic works like this....."Syria is a real place and it talkes about it in the bible.....therefore Zombies are real!"....

      November 30, 2012 at 8:55 am |
    • J.C.

      Yes, and just how much scientific theory do we still find holds true from 1600? Besides simple stuff like gravity.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:58 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @Via2
      GIlgamesh was the King of Uruk, which is modern day Iraq.
      The stone tablets that tell the Epic of Gilgamesh refer to real historical places and events.
      I guess that means the entire thing is true and he really did rule his kingdom for 126 years, was 3/4 divine, slew the Bull of Heaven sent by the Goddess Ishtar against him and travelled through the Underworld.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:59 am |
    • John A

      Save the excuses for later.

      November 30, 2012 at 4:38 pm |
  11. Claudia, Houston, Tx

    Rubio isn't a "scientist" but yet he works in the Govt Science Department, that makes us all idiots.

    November 30, 2012 at 8:27 am |
    • lol??

      Your cause/effect requires a leap of faith.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:38 am |
  12. Bill

    Creationism and evolution may not be so far apart as to be impossible for both to exist, for one those who believe in creationism just have to realize that how do we as men know how long Gods day is? one of his days may be millions of our years long (we as interpret everything from mankinds point of view) and the creation of man may have been a process of experimentation and evolution until he got the formula right (in other words god is probably the greatest scientist of all). does that make him any less godly? I say why dont you try creating your own universe and see how far you get (not very far im sure) so scientist or magician he is godly. The religous people on this planet want to make god out to be a magician (just wiggle his nose and things appear out of thin air) If we think of god as a scientist himself it would explain both science and religion. Think about it!

    November 30, 2012 at 8:24 am |
    • nope

      why do you refer to god as "he" or "him". do you know something we all dont know? what if god is a dinosaur? what if god is a spaceship. i can shoot holes is this all day kid.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:32 am |
    • snowboarder

      some people will go to fantastical lengths to have attempt to fit their theology into the reality of this world.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:33 am |
    • Primewonk

      The word yom can mean anything from a literal 24 hour day to an indeterminate age. The meaning is determined by the modifiers used. In Genesis it is "and evening and morning the x day" every other time this phraseology is used, it means a literal day.

      You also stated, "the creation of man may have been a process of experimentation and evolution until he got the formula right".

      Why would an omnipotent omniscient god need to experiment until he gets it right?

      November 30, 2012 at 8:40 am |
    • doughnuts

      You are caught in the trap of Anthropomorphism.This is one of the reasons agnostics and atheists will never take you seriously in a debate. You try to imagine what the Christian god is like, and you come up with something between Zeus, Gandalf, and Santa Claus.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:46 am |
  13. via2

    Coming from Pat Robertson, not surprised at all. Dinosaurs existed because the Holy Bible, the Word of God says they existed. God also says in his Word that He created them WITH man because God is the Creator of all that exists. Which also means that they were here at the same time with man. The Bible very clearly describes a creature, a behemoth of immense size and strength. And this description does not fit an elephant, giraffe or hippo, or any other zoological animal but something much, much larger. And the Bible is not speaking metaphors here since it describes the creature as “eating grass like an ox”. They existed, big deal. But what do these creatures have to do with the fact that it is appointed onto man once to die and after this the judgment of your soul for its eternal destiny??

    Stop digging in the dirt for fossils that are WORTHLESS to your soul and except the free gift of eternal life that Jesus Christ has provided.

    November 30, 2012 at 8:23 am |
    • dieseltdi

      Actually the Behemoth described in the old testament has been show linguistically to mean "hippo". The hippo was once wide spread throughout the middle east and Africa.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:28 am |
    • kaligaclark

      You can keep believing what you want, and I will follow the science! I prefer facts over a book of FICTION written by men to control men! THE SHEEPLE IN THE STEEPLE ARE GULLIBLE PEOPLE!!!

      November 30, 2012 at 8:30 am |
    • via2

      @dieseltdi, the Bible says that the MOUNTAINS provided the food for this creature. You ever see a hippo climb a mountain. Stop believing what has "been shown" and read the Word of God for yourself.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:34 am |
    • snowboarder

      via – it is also described as breathing fire, so i would likely call it fiction.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:35 am |
    • via2

      @kaligaclark, death is real. And what happens after death science can do NOTHING about. But Jesus can.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:39 am |
    • via2

      @snowboarder, well an electric eel can kick out 50,000 volts at will. I believe there are creatures in the earth that we haven't even discovered yet that can do all sorts of miraculous things.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:44 am |
    • snowboarder

      via – not miraculous things, just natural things. nearly all things in the world once attributed to divine cause have been determined to be of natural origins. there is no reason to believe that trend will miraculously reverse.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:49 am |
    • Wise1

      Absolutely. I am in total agreement. Your soul is more important than any theories or myths. It's old. Lets continue on in the grace freely given to us by our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:49 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @via2
      The Bible also describes 7 headed dragons that spew torrents of water (Revelation 12:3) , unicorns (Isaiah 34:7), half man half goat beasts (Isaiah 13:21 and 34:14), flaming snakes (Numbers 21:6), serpents that can kill just by looking at you (Jeremiah 8:17), and talking donkeys (Numbers 22:28).

      November 30, 2012 at 8:50 am |
    • Tim Erickson

      Ahahahahahahahaha. your funny. Good job at proving the point that the bible has zero arguement about this except telling us that the bible really doesnt know what it is describing. I mean dont you remember that the earth was flat at one point? Believing in the bible is as bad as believing that wizards are real. Stop reading your magical fairy tail and read something actually useful instead of a book that has created almost every war on this planet.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:55 am |
    • doughnuts

      via2, you're being played for a sucker. There is no 'word of God.' It has always been the words of people.
      In the not-to-distant future, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam will be looked at as no different from the Roman and Greek pantheons, or those of the ancient Egyptians.

      We both already look at thousands of gods, goddesses, and demi-gods as nothing more than mythology. I simply added one more to my list.

      November 30, 2012 at 9:08 am |
  14. Reality

    Only for the eyes of Mr. Robertson and for those who want an update on the OT/Torah:

    Time to admit the OT needs significant updating. 1.5 million Conservative Jews and their rabbis have done just that.

    Only for the new members of this blog:

    origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482 NY Times review and important enough to reiterate.

    New Torah For Modern Minds

    “Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. (prob•a•bly
    Adverb: Almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell).

    The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

    Such startling propositions – the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years – have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity – until now.

    The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine doc-ument.

    The notion that the Bible is not literally true "is more or less settled and understood among most Conservative rabbis," observed David Wolpe, a rabbi at Sinai Temple in Los Angeles and a contributor to "Etz Hayim." But some congregants, he said, "may not like the stark airing of it." Last Passover, in a sermon to 2,200 congregants at his synagogue, Rabbi Wolpe frankly said that "virtually every modern archaeologist" agrees "that the way the Bible describes the Exodus is not the way that it happened, if it happened at all." The rabbi offered what he called a "LITANY OF DISILLUSION”' about the narrative, including contradictions, improbabilities, chronological lapses and the absence of corroborating evidence. In fact, he said, archaeologists digging in the Sinai have "found no trace of the tribes of Israel – not one shard of pottery."

    "When I grew up in Brooklyn, congregants were not sophisticated about anything," said Rabbi Harold Kushner, the author of "When Bad Things Happen to Good People" and a co-editor of the new book. "Today, they are very sophisticated and well read about psychology, literature and history, but they are locked in a childish version of the Bible."

    These essays, perused during uninspired sermons or Torah readings at Sabbath services, will no doubt surprise many congregants. For instance, an essay on Ancient Near Eastern Mythology," by Robert Wexler, president of the University of Judaism in Los Angeles, states that on the basis of modern scholarship, it seems unlikely that the story of Genesis originated in Palestine. More likely, Mr. Wexler says, it arose in Mesopotamia, the influence of which is most apparent in the story of the Flood, which probably grew out of the periodic overflowing of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. The story of Noah, Mr. Wexler adds, was probably borrowed from the Mesopotamian epic Gilgamesh.

    Equally striking for many readers will be the essay "Biblical Archaeology," by Lee I. Levine, a professor at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. "There is no reference in Egyptian sources to Israel's sojourn in that country," he writes, "and the evidence that does exist is negligible and indirect." The few indirect pieces of evidence, like the use of Egyptian names, he adds, "are far from adequate to corroborate the historicity of the biblical account."

    Similarly ambiguous, Mr. Levine writes, is the evidence of the conquest and settlement of Canaan, the ancient name for the area including Israel. Excavations showing that Jericho was unwalled and uninhabited, he says, "clearly seem to contradict the violent and complete conquest portrayed in the Book of Joshua." What's more, he says, there is an "almost total absence of archaeological evidence" backing up the Bible's grand descriptions of the Jerusalem of David and Solomon. "

    November 30, 2012 at 8:16 am |
    • Reality

      Summarizing for the reading challenged:

      • As far as one knows or can tell, there was no Abraham i.e. the foundations of Judaism, Christianity and Islam are non-existent.

      • As far as one knows or can tell, there was no Moses i.e the pillars of Judaism, Christianity and Islam have no strength of purpose.

      There was no Exodus

      There was no Noah or Great Flood

      David was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was significantly embellished by the scribes.

      There is almost total absence of archaeological evidence" backing up the Bible's grand descriptions of the Jerusalem of David and Solomon.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:24 am |
    • richunix

      Good Morning Reality..need to get my coffee first, before I sit down and read your post....

      November 30, 2012 at 8:40 am |
    • lol??

      Reality sure is evangelical in her views. Can't let women teach.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:48 am |
  15. WisdomVS

    Some Bible scholars are idiots! The Bible clearly states, "A day with the Lord is as a Thousand and a Thousand as a day." Translated into Engligh, that would basically be saying... "Time is irrelevant, it does not matter". I am a firm believer that evolution is the key element in the creation of all things. Study the animals and insects of this planet and you'll quickly see that many species are still evolving and some at a rapid rate in order to survive climate changes and other changes to their environment. Man himself now averages a foot or more in height than men in the 1600 were. Science and creation are one, religion is the factor that fails to fit logic and reason.

    November 30, 2012 at 8:15 am |
    • Primewonk

      " Science and creation are one"

      There are over a thousand different creation myths we have found so far. Your bible has two different one. All thousand myths are vastly different. All are mutually exclusive. And all bear no resemblance to the actual facts and evidence.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:45 am |
  16. gr of pa

    The reason so many americans do not believe in evolution is because they somehow missed out on it.

    November 30, 2012 at 8:12 am |
  17. Reality

    For Pat Robertson only:

    For $199, you can find out if you are part Neaderthal- not kidding:

    As per National Geographic's Genographic project:
    https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/

    " DNA studies suggest that all humans today descend from a group of African ancestors who about 60,000 years ago began a remarkable journey. Follow the journey from them to you as written in your genes”.

    "Adam" is the common male ancestor of every living man. He lived in Africa some 60,000 years ago, which means that all humans lived in Africa at least at that time.

    Unlike his Biblical namesake, this Adam was not the only man alive in his era. Rather, he is unique because his descendents are the only ones to survive.

    It is important to note that Adam does not literally represent the first human. He is the coalescence point of all the genetic diversity."

    For your $199 and a DNA swab:

    "Included in the markers we will test for is a subset that scientists have recently determined to be from our hominin cousins, Neanderthals and the newly discovered Denisovans, who split from our lineage around 500,000 years ago. As modern humans were first migrating out of Africa more than 60,000 years ago, Neanderthals and Denisovans were still alive and well in Eurasia. It seems that our ancestors met, leaving a small genetic trace of these ancient relatives in our DNA. With Geno 2.0, you will learn if you have any Neanderthal or Denisovan DNA in your genome."

    November 30, 2012 at 8:11 am |
    • Nietodarwin

      Post this every few hours. I wish I had the money, I'd do it. (I'm pretty sure, being of European descent, I have it, but I don't have the $199) I KEEP TRYING TO POINT THIS OUT TO THE "Faithful"
      Funny thing is , in 1000 years they will still be able to do this, but they won't be able to tell if your ancestors were "creationist"
      Making creationist children lowers your chances for have descendants in a 1000 years I would think

      November 30, 2012 at 8:46 am |
    • doughnuts

      Cool!. I was actually unaware of the discovery of the Denisovans. It would be interesting to do a comparative study with all major regional populations: North American Natives, Europeans, Africans, East and West Asians, as well as Melanesians to see how and where the admixtures of Neanderthal and Denisovan DNA are most and least prevelant.

      November 30, 2012 at 9:21 am |
  18. lol??

    The majority of the commenters are missing the main conflict, nature versus nurture. Pat's daddy was a career PUblic Servant who never even tried to escape and gain his freedom. It's ye olde evidence of apples falling from trees observations.

    November 30, 2012 at 8:09 am |
    • Reality

      Actually, it is called the Three B Syndrome, i.e. Bred, Born and Brainwashed in your religion.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:12 am |
    • Greg

      Trying to be clever; failing.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:16 am |
    • lol??

      Clever is PUblic Servants turning Masters into slaves. Pass.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:28 am |
  19. Nothere

    From the same people who said the world was flat ...

    November 30, 2012 at 8:07 am |
  20. toadstool

    Here's a scientific fact backed up by the results of that Gallup poll.
    46% of Americans are idiots.

    November 30, 2012 at 8:06 am |
    • Nothere

      My guess the true number is around 95% – we are the trailer park of the universe.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:08 am |
    • lol??

      Not to worry, nothere, the Trailer Park Avenue trash have things under control.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:16 am |
    • lol??

      Like Darwin, nobility, and the rich they like to inbreed.

      November 30, 2012 at 8:19 am |
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