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Pat Robertson challenges creationism
Pat Robertson: "There was a time when these giant reptiles were on the Earth, and it was before the time of the Bible."
November 29th, 2012
04:04 PM ET

Pat Robertson challenges creationism

By Dan Merica, CNN

Washington (CNN) – Televangelist Pat Robertson challenged the idea that Earth is 6,000 years old this week, saying the man who many credit with conceiving the idea, former Archbishop of Ireland James Ussher, “wasn’t inspired by the Lord when he said that it all took 6,000 years.”

The statement was in response to a question Robertson fielded Tuesday from a viewer on his Christian Broadcasting Network show "The 700 Club.” In a submitted question, the viewer wrote that one of her biggest fears was that her children and husband would not go to heaven “because they question why the Bible could not explain the existence of dinosaurs.”

“You go back in time, you've got radiocarbon dating. You got all these things, and you've got the carcasses of dinosaurs frozen in time out in the Dakotas,” Robertson said. “They're out there. So, there was a time when these giant reptiles were on the Earth, and it was before the time of the Bible. So, don't try and cover it up and make like everything was 6,000 years. That's not the Bible.”

Before answering the question, Robertson acknowledged the statement was controversial by saying, “I know that people will probably try to lynch me when I say this.”

“If you fight science, you are going to lose your children, and I believe in telling them the way it was,” Robertson concluded.

Forty-six percent of Americans believe that God created humans in their present form at one point within the past 10,000 years, according to a survey released by Gallup in June. That number has remained unchanged for the past 30 years, since 1982, when Gallup first asked the question on creationism versus evolution.

The Gallup poll has not specifically asked about views on the age of the Earth.

Ussher’s work, from the mid-1600s, is widely cited by creationists as evidence that Earth is only a few thousand years old. Answer in Genesis, the famed Christian creationist ministry behind the Creation Museum in Petersburg, Kentucky, cites Ussher as proof of Earth’s age. They describe the archbishop as “a brilliant scholar who had very good reasons for his conclusions concerning the date of creation.”

For Christians who read the creation account in Genesis literally, the six days in the account are strictly 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution. Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth, and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years.

Most scientists, however, agree that the Earth is 4.5 billion years old and the universe is 14.5 billion years old.

The idea of creationism has been scorned by the mainstream scientific community since shortly after Charles Darwin introduced "The Origin of Species" in 1859. By 1880, The American Naturalists, a science journal, reported nearly every major university in America was teaching evolution.

The question about Earth’s age has been in the news recently. Earlier this month, Republican Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida attempted to walk the line between science and faith-based creationism in remarks that that provoked the ire of liberal blogs and left the door open to creationism.

“I'm not a scientist, man,” Rubio told GQ’s Micheal Hainey. “I can tell you what recorded history says, I can tell you what the Bible says, but I think that's a dispute amongst theologians and I think it has nothing to do with the gross domestic product or economic growth of the United States.”

– CNN’s Eric Marrapodi contributed to this report.

- Dan Merica

Filed under: Christianity • Creationism • Evolution

soundoff (4,408 Responses)
  1. Rationalintn

    Once Curiosity finds that life DID exist on Mars, Religion is going to have some explaining to do. Pat knows what is coming and this is just his pre-emptive strike. He has got to make sure Christianity goes through the fastest evolution ever recorded in the universe, in order to remain relevant.

    Every church in the end, is only concerned about their own self-preservation. They have got to keep the revenue stream flowing, so they will adapt. It's really quite comical that they will be living examples of Darwin's theories, in order to assure their own survival.

    November 30, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
    • Guy

      Apostle Paul knew how to get a good scam up and running. 1Corn 9:11 If we have sown spiritual things among you, is it too much if we reap material things from you? Ever since then every cheap hustler with a gift of the gab has been fleecing the sheep, of course sheep are pretty dumb.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:29 pm |
    • Smack

      I agree 100%. Religion can no longer depend on parents brainwashing their kids and the 700 Club audience is getting older. This is all about repositioning their beliefs in order to stay relevant or risk losing all new generations. They must quickly transition to more of a philosophical belief that Christianity is god and charitable rather use fear tactics that you will burn in hell.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
    • SixDegrees

      Pat Robertson aside, I don't see why finding life on Mars or any other planet causes any problems for religion. I'm not aware of any doctrines which claim that earth is the only place where life exists, christian or otherwise.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
    • PaulB

      If you look at the histories of both God and the Church you'll see that the religious adapt very well to changing environments. The Church saw where the tide was turning and, in every instance, it changed it's theology and it changed God to remain relevant to people. The Church as evolved a lot since the days just after Jesus and it will continue to long into the future. Soon it will be a species that allows same se x marriage, a much different species than it's ancestors.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:40 pm |
    • Chick-a-dee

      You stopped reading too soon... The very next verse is where Paul starts explaining why, even through he would be enti.tled to payment, he takes nothing. "That, when I preach, I offer the gospel free of charge so as not to make full use of my right in the gospel."

      12If others share this rightful claim on you, do not we still more?g

      Reason for Not Using His Rights. Yet we have not used this right.* On the contrary, we endure everything so as not to place an obstacle to the gospel of Christ. 13* Do you not know that those who perform the temple services eat [what] belongs to the temple, and those who minister at the altar share in the sacrificial offerings?h 14In the same way, the Lord ordered that those who preach the gospel should live by the gospel.i

      15* I have not used any of these rights, however, nor do I write this that it be done so in my case. I would rather die. Certainly no one is going to nullify my boast.j 16If I preach the gospel, this is no reason for me to boast, for an obligation has been imposed on me, and woe to me if I do not preach it!k 17If I do so willingly, I have a recompense, but if unwillingly, then I have been entrusted with a stewardship.l 18What then is my recompense? That, when I preach, I offer the gospel free of charge so as not to make full use of my right in the gospel.m

      1 CORINTHIANS
      Chapter 9
      * [9:1–27] This chapter is an emotionally charged expansion of Paul’s appeal to his own example in 1 Cor 8:13; its purpose is to reinforce the exhortation of 1 Cor 8:9. The two opening questions introduce the themes of Paul’s freedom and his apostleship (1 Cor 9:1), themes that the chapter will develop in reverse order, 1 Cor 9:1–18 treating the question of his apostleship and the rights that flow from it, and 1 Cor 9:19–27 exploring dialectically the nature of Paul’s freedom. The language is highly rhetorical, abounding in questions, wordplays, paradoxes, images, and appeals to authority and experience. The argument is unified by repeti.tions; its articulations are highlighted by inclusions and transitional verses.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:42 pm |
    • Baby Jesus doesn't smile.

      Explaining, hardly, they will just do another re-write, sort of like.....When god created the heavens and earth a little of the life force slipped into space and ended up in other places besides Earth...and you know just by reading these posts that some would lap it right up.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:43 pm |
  2. Al

    Also why are Religions are so tight about this? I mean nothing can prove that religion is godly made:maybe needed, but if a God creates all this which even in science terms called intelligent design why only so called religios people have to fight evoulation or defend a God?!isn't there any body out there who thinks that maybe a super inteligent power is behind all this which inno need of a knowledgement from any one?

    November 30, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
    • sirhuxley

      The answer to your question is really simple.

      The absolute foundation of Christianity is "Salvation" via JC for the "Original Sin" which occurred in the "Garden of Eden" when Adam and Eve ate the Apple.

      This story is laid down in the two books of Genesis, without a literal interpretation of Genesis Christianity cannot establish a need for "Salvation" from Original sin. Therefore if Evolution is true (and it is) then Christianity is a man-made farce.

      Are you answered?

      November 30, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
    • Norm

      The Pope says there is nothing in the Bible about Christmas being the birthday of Jesus.
      Stephen Colbert says...there's nothing in the Bible that mentions a Pope...

      November 30, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
    • Al

      @sirhuxley: so if we all agree that all religious books are man made whether with good intentions or of trying to rule others then the age of earth would not have to match (within 6 days) the creation of humans and we would not really be objecting to a God!?

      November 30, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
    • lol??

      Don't kid yourself. Americultian educratists are married to the Beast. Power is their desire. No fathers allowed.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:51 pm |
  3. Michael Allen

    He can be taught! Hallelujah! http://www.shockandahh.com/2012/11/intelligent-vs-stupid-design.html

    November 30, 2012 at 2:59 pm |
    • CJ

      He can't.

      It's because he's been taught that he laughs so loudly at religious people and their beliefs. Ironically, while he does good for the world in his daily life, preaching tolerance, mercy, compassion for all. He is good. He left religion behind. PRAISE THE HIM!

      November 30, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
  4. Bible Clown©

    John W. Campbell used to call these people "neo-barbarians." They know that when they flip a switch, the light comes on. Why? Electricity. Well, what's that? The stuff in the wires. What's it made of? Dunno. Copper maybe.

    November 30, 2012 at 2:58 pm |
    • lol??

      Gacy was a great clown and a repub to boot. Share any genes?

      November 30, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
  5. Norm

    God lead the archbishop to believe only what his 15th century education could comprehend.
    God has enabled our brains and our knowledge to evolve through science so that one day we will know the truth of everything.
    I find it amusing that atheists and scientists can't except that every thought in their heads comes from God.
    "We" are God.......each of us individually and collectively.
    We create this illusion we call reality so our consciousness doesn't go insane in a void of nothingness.
    We create the false illusion of substance and time and natural law.
    None of it exists and without it, trapped in an eternity of the nothing of now, we would all lose our will to go on.
    Ya dig me?

    November 30, 2012 at 2:57 pm |
    • sam

      That's super trippy, Norm.

      It was nice of god to make us question his existence, though.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:59 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      Oh gee what an original comment. Misrepresentation, and assertions. Did you think of that all by yourself?

      November 30, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
    • Stan

      Someone needs to take another hit...

      November 30, 2012 at 3:04 pm |
    • CJ

      Please fix spelling, grammar, transitions and logic.

      Go back to kindergarten. Start again. This time, leave the village.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:09 pm |
    • Norm

      Seems my conceptualization has frightened a few of you that chose to post a response in the negative.
      Please accept my apologies and go back to the bar or the crack pipe that you hide behind.
      LOL...one of them said to check my spelling when I have an automatic spell checker.
      These are the ones with one foot still stuck in the void.
      One.....

      November 30, 2012 at 3:15 pm |
    • old guy

      If you need a god to explain the beginning, that is your choice. The same questions you ask and explain by given credit to a "god", are in fact asked by others whom ask "Who created this so called god. How do you explain his existence? If you need a god to create the world due to it complexity then the so called must be equally complex and could not appear from nothing. My answer is simple. I don't know. There is nothing wrong with not knowing how and when the world was created. Science will no doubt eventually figure most of it out. I however feel that simply making up a god and then trying to indoctrinated everyone else to believe as you do is wrong. So much hate and killing has occured over religion.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
    • lol??

      Oh, oh, CJ has been hanging with Hillary and picked up her delusions. A chicken in every pot, and a kweer in every closet.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
    • Athy

      Norm. Spelling is OK, you just use the wrong words, like "except" for "accept."

      November 30, 2012 at 3:20 pm |
    • Dennis

      That is exactly what I believe. Right on! Glad to hear somebody else naming it in the middle of this ignorant simpleminded bebate about one narrow version of a religious idea. Norm is the man!

      November 30, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
  6. Al

    I think if we come from the Apes we would at least keep the hairy cover, I mean why would we get rid of all the hair to put a pair of jeans on?!isn't that Evoulation in reverse?all other creatures on land have a thick skin (hair or wool) except humans!if God creates us he made us this way but provide us with the brain to complete our creation so we becomae as independent at other species using our heads;from riding a horse to a car to aplane to maybe self propelled engines?but why did we start covering ourselves:Are we really made with a built in shame or is it just the enviroment?

    November 30, 2012 at 2:49 pm |
    • Primewonk

      The hair on great apes served to protect their skin from the sun in Africa. As humans spread out of Africa, this wasn't an issue, plus we started covering ourselves to protect us from colder climes. We still have lots of hair, it's just a lot thinner and shorter.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:57 pm |
    • Norm

      "I think if we come from the Apes we would at least keep the hairy cover,"

      I take it you've never met my mother-in-law..........

      November 30, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
    • Jeff

      We didn't come from the apes. When the hell are people going to stop misunderstanding how this works. Humans and the great apes share a common ancestor. But we didn't come from them. In much the same way you may have a great aunt 3 times removed ... but that doesn't mean you're her son or daughter ... you both have a common ancestor ... get it.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
    • Betsy

      Prime–why do modern Africans have just as much hair on their bodies as other humans?

      November 30, 2012 at 3:03 pm |
    • Al

      @primewonk Why then the people in Africa who still live in the jungles didn't keep their hairy bodies? Why would they shed their hairy protection from the Sun?

      November 30, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
    • sam

      Did you guys not see Jeff's response...

      November 30, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
    • Al

      @Jeff; even if we have a common DNA that will not explain why humans have brains to invent and Apes still scratch their backs?based on something can't come from nothing or the Energy/Matter Conversion

      November 30, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
    • Norm

      I wonder when people will start to realize that we were seeded here from somewhere else.
      The being you call God was just another alien colonization.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:18 pm |
    • lol??

      Oh, no!! Not that! Alien commie ancestors! That's where the bullies originated?

      November 30, 2012 at 3:44 pm |
  7. Art Glick

    Wow! Over 3000 comments in less than 24 hours. Talk about a subject that touches a nerve!!!

    I resent the fact that creationists have hijacked the term "intelligent design". I think most scientists would allow the possibility that there is some intelligence behind the design of the Universe.

    November 30, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
    • Aezel

      "I think most scientists would allow the possibility that there is some intelligence behind the design of the Universe."

      Not really. Most of them would say why even discuss it if there is zero evidence, which is the case.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:54 pm |
    • Horus

      Actually folks like Carl Sagan and Neil Degrasse Tyson (people who would know) have commented to the randomness of the Universe, and the lack of specific design intent.....

      November 30, 2012 at 2:57 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      'I think most scientists would allow the possibility that there is some intelligence behind the design of the Universe.'

      no, because 'intelligence' ultimately always means 'god'

      November 30, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
  8. Bob

    Most of you Christ haters are more ignorant than Christians. How many of you can explain your belief system, scientifically..or even really care. You only want to be entertained and hate that which is good. Without Christians, you would devour yourselves in self abuse or die of boredom.

    November 30, 2012 at 2:43 pm |
    • sam

      LOL wow. What a ray of sunshine...and bullshit.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:44 pm |
    • ME II

      "I think therefor I am" – Descartes

      That is the starting point.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:45 pm |
    • Smack

      Thankfully, we were able to drop our Christian values. Should we stone female non-virgins in front of their parents on their wedding night? Honor kills for disobedient children? Can sell your daughter into slavery for cash? Multiple wives? Slavery is acceptable with rules on how badly you can beat them? Death for working on Sunday?

      You should be thankful that reason and logic defeated the Christian values in the book you cherish so much.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:48 pm |
    • Bill

      The problem is that you base your beliefs on nothing more than myths. The old testament is based on Babylonian myths that predate its writing by 1000-2000 years, and the earliest gospels said nothing about Jesus Divinity. That was cropped up 300 years alter when a bunch of power hungry "Christians" got together and decided what would be put in, and wouldn't be put in this bible.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:49 pm |
    • PrimeNumber

      Bob, the Christ-haters are right on script. Jesus did say "If the world hates you (Christians), know that it hated Me first."
      Most atheists want "evidence" for the existence of God (as though they could interpret such evidence). The atheists can't even prove whether the universe will exist after they die.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:49 pm |
    • sam

      Bob, you and PrimeNumber should get together and see how many right wing whackadoodles it takes to change a lightbulb. Don't do it on the sabbath, though, or you'll incur god's wrath.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:53 pm |
    • CJ

      We're not christ haters. Most of us grew up with the little fella...

      Its just ludicrous that adults with a free education continue to believe such drivel. Go to church, do good, help others, that's what we do.

      But we don't hate christ. We hate people running a supposed secular state with their bigotry and ignorance, which most politicians in this country do, through christ.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:58 pm |
    • lol??

      ME II
      "I think therefor I am" – Descartes

      That is the starting point."......Just another copycat......."Jhn 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."

      November 30, 2012 at 2:58 pm |
    • lol??

      CJ, a little white lie, there? .........."Jhn 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before [it hated] you."

      November 30, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
    • sam

      Nice try, 'lol'. That's got nothing to do with the Descartes quote. Are you high?

      November 30, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
    • ME II

      "I think therefor I am" – Descartes

      ".Just another copycat.......Jhn 8:58 'Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.'"

      Not the same thing. One is logic. the other, unfounded assertion.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:03 pm |
    • Which God?

      christ haters? How can one hate somehing or one, if it never existed? Jeebus never was, and never will be, anything more than a myth. Fact.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:04 pm |
    • lol??

      Excuses, excuses.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      'The atheists can't even prove whether the universe will exist after they die'

      which has got what to do with anything? seriously.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:09 pm |
    • Rationalintn

      I actually like Christ a lot. I have serious problems with some of his "look-at-me-Christians".

      Here are some examples;
      Business owners and their employees who use Christianity as a marketing tool. One I worked for was taken away in handcuffs for stealing. Another who worked in financial services, routinely deceived and verbally disparaged his clients. Finally, a third exploited Hispanics in the country illegally to make a handome profit.

      Then there are the evangelicals who use deceptive tactics to bring others into their church. They invite you and your family over for "lunch", only to turn it into a "small group meeting" where you must witness their testimony in the most awkward, twilight zone moment of your life. They tell you that nothing that is said should ever leave the room. Later, they ask you for your list of 10 people you believe need to come to Jesus. When they share their list, number one is your good friend– who has no idea that they are on this hit list. No wonder they said that nothing spoken here ever leaves this room!

      Finally, there are the "Totally-In-Your-Face-Holier-Than-Thou-Christians" who share their disgust for others in need. For example, people who make statements about hurricane survivors such as "Why should we help them?" Or, people who leave their church and find another, because their current church is too much "about helping the poor."

      Those are the examples of why I like Christ, but Christians– not so much.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:57 pm |
  9. Rufoscoe

    Hmmmm. Dangerous territory here.

    If a popular and influential televangelist publicly questions the beliefs of 143,332,282 of Americans using nothing more than common sense and reason this could threaten the all important revenue generating engine behind religion. The prospect of a tyranny that strides beyond the grave could be next on the block and then 46% of Americans would be reliant on their brains rather than religion to answer the 'universal questions'.

    November 30, 2012 at 2:42 pm |
    • Bob

      Funny! Acting based upon "reason", so noble. Look at all the deceived who voted for Obama. That shows a high level of reason!

      November 30, 2012 at 2:44 pm |
    • sam

      Bob, did Fox 'news' kick you out, or what?

      November 30, 2012 at 2:45 pm |
    • Rufoscoe

      There ya go Bob, see what happens when people think for themselves? Better that our religious leaders do it for us. A strong argument for the combination of Church and State, dontcha think?

      November 30, 2012 at 2:49 pm |
    • Bob

      Sam: I thought pedophiles and necrophiles like yourself would avoid serious discussions:) Your Mama was a slime Mold and Yo' Daddy was a Tree. Such intelligent bantering is quite delightful. You should be more creative in your deprecations!

      November 30, 2012 at 3:05 pm |
    • Which God?

      Yep, Rufoscoe, ain't it grand? Nice post.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
    • Which God?

      And Bob is such a nice christian boy, following the dicktates of his master, to love all. Oopps, Bob, you can wipe off your chin now. You've had enough loving for now.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:09 pm |
    • sam

      Bob, it's too bad halfassed fundie trolling isn't a paying gig. You would have found your calling.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
    • Cartman

      Bob, are pedophelia and necrophelia fave fetishes of yours? Kind of specific

      November 30, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
  10. Aezel

    Hey guys, lets fight over if the tooth fairy is pink or purple. Equally as valid.

    November 30, 2012 at 2:41 pm |
    • Stan

      She's argyle you filthy heretic.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
  11. storymagination

    The great irony is the Creationists and others of that ilk accept mainstream science when it comes to a plasma TV, medications from their MDs that work, the way their car runs and how a cell phone operates. The same scientific thinking that created all these forms of technology is the same scientific thinking that evolved the idea of evolution and the age of the earth. They deny DNA when it comes to us and apes but, not when it comes to testing medicines. They are hypocrites. If they really believe what they say, they shouldn't be on the internet right now or using a cell phone or taking their meds. I challenge all you so called believers to give us every vestiage of modern science. That includes central heating and bandages!

    November 30, 2012 at 2:39 pm |
    • Bob

      Difference between applied "science" and speculative scientific theology. Anyone who has an ounce of logically ability can recognize the difference.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
    • ry

      Funny how you completely distort the story into thinking modern technology has anything to do with evolution. Firstly, in order for you and all the tech hungry consumers out there, it takes intelligent design to make all those sweet 80" LED tvs and i phones..not randomess not a collection of primordial soup that evolves. it is absolute nonsense to in eveolution. Second Pat Robertson copped out on the truth by allowing his beliefs ot be bent by the world naturalistic view...radiometric dating methods are so flawed its ridiculous. He is doing Chritians a great dis service by spouting this BS nonsense to conform to the world.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:54 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @ry

      Oh well if you say it's ridiculous it must be then. We'll just all forget about the people actually in that field working on this constantly and listen to some random anti-science hypocrite on the internet on what is reliable science. Wait I think I know what reliable science is to you, anything that can be spun to seemingly support your bible or assertions of god right?

      November 30, 2012 at 2:58 pm |
    • CJ

      No, he's right. You can't claim to discount all scientific evidence for earth's ancient origins, while using the very comforts we rational secular techies create for you.

      If you think stone age, you should use stone age tools.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
    • Primewonk

      ry wrote, " radiometric dating methods are so flawed its ridiculous"

      Fundiot nuttters have made this claim numeous times today. Each time I've asked them to provide the ciitations to the peer-reviewed scientific research that shows these serious flaws. Sadly, so far, not a single solitary one of you fundiot nutters has had tthe balls to post the science.

      Will you be the one ry? Will you post the science that shows radiometric dating is flawed?

      November 30, 2012 at 3:07 pm |
  12. PrimeNumber

    " Earlier this month, Republican Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida attempted to walk the line between science and faith-based creationism in remarks that that provoked the ire of liberal blogs and left the door open to creationism." Does anyone realize what a collosal mistake we may have made? During the campaign, was the current premier even once asked his opinion on the age of the universe? We may have elected a man who is ignorant or indifferent on this all important question. How could a consistent, emotionally stable, supremely rational atheist vote for such the man who occupies the presidency. The ramifications are unthinkable !!!

    November 30, 2012 at 2:38 pm |
    • Rufoscoe

      :-)

      November 30, 2012 at 2:56 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @PrimeNumber.

      President Obama was asked this question – back in 2008.

      At a 'town hall' at Messiah College in Grantham, Pa. on April 13, 2008 the following took place:

      Q.Senator, if one of your daughters asked you—and maybe they already have—“Daddy, did god really create the world in 6 days?,” what would you say?

      Senator Barack Obama: What I've said to them is that I believe that God created the universe and that the six days in the Bible may not be six days as we understand it … it may not be 24-hour days, and that's what I believe. I know there's always a debate between those who read the Bible literally and those who don't, and I think it's a legitimate debate within the Christian community of which I'm a part. My belief is that the story that the Bible tells about God creating this magnificent Earth on which we live—that is essentially true, that is fundamentally true. Now, whether it happened exactly as we might understand it reading the text of the Bible: That, I don't presume to know.

      While then Sen. Obama tried to dodge the question, he did say: "it may not be 24-hour days, and that's what I believe"

      November 30, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      Later in the same event, then Sen. Obama said this on evolution:

      "Let me just make one last point on this. I do believe in evolution. I don't think that is incompatible with Christian faith, just as I don't think science generally is incompatible with Christian faith. I think that this is something that we get bogged down in. There are those who suggest that if you have a scientific bent of mind then somehow you should reject religion, and I fundamentally disagree with that. In fact, the more I learn about the world, the more I know about science, the more I am amazed about the mystery of this planet and this universe—and it strengthens my faith as opposed to weakens it."

      Happy now?

      The gist of your argument is addressed in this column:
      http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2012/11/rubio_and_obama_and_the_age_of_earth_politicians_hedge_about_whether_universe.2.html

      November 30, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
    • Primewonk

      The difference is that Obama is not trying to force his religious beliefs onto others, and have his religious beliefs taught as science.

      Big Difference.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
  13. gravis

    You non-believers will be sorry one day when the great bearded magic man and his son float down to earth and send all your souls to fiery eternal hell!

    November 30, 2012 at 2:38 pm |
    • Bill

      I seriously doubt that...

      November 30, 2012 at 2:44 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      Jesus will be riding a unicorn with a lepechaun on his shoulders. God will be carried on the shoulders of Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:45 pm |
    • lol

      Could I opt for a great bearded clam instead?

      I mean, if we are just going to make stuff up, then I'd prefer that over some bearded dude worshipped by pedo's.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
  14. Sane Person

    If THIS GUY can realize that the earth is older than 10,000 years.. Maybe there is hope for the rest of you young earthers

    November 30, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
    • Stan

      He's also advocated the legalization of marijuana for medical purposes. I never thought I'd see the day that Robertson and I started agreeing on things.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
  15. Lynn

    This is bull. Of the 46% who believes the earth is between 6000 and 10000 years old, how many of them have even heard of "Archbishop of Ireland James Ussher"? Their belief is not based on the idea that this guy was "inspired by God" in his findings. Pat Robertson should address the timeline in the Bible itself, which is what their belief is based on, and his belief on why this is not a literal account of Creation in days.

    On another note, those who ridicule God and deny their Maker, will one day find that they were sadly and grievously mistaken. Seek Him with an honest and open heart, via the Holy Scriptures and prayer, and you will find Him. Then you will know what a fool you were, but at least it won't be too late. The world is full of wickedness. But God is love and eternal life. Those who want nothing to do with Him, will not be with Him.

    November 30, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
    • Which God?

      Geeze Lynn. I've been looking under every rock I see, but he's not there, nor in the holely babbling book of bullschitt.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:45 pm |
    • Madtown

      via the Holy Scriptures
      ----
      The Holy Scriptures of which religion? They all have them. And, how can something be holy if humans create it? Humans are imperfect. By extension everything we create has elements of imperfection.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:48 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      Lynt, you're full of horse feathers. There is no God or Jesus–only Mother Nature, and she is cruel and nasty. Why else would she have given atheists all the brains and good looks while giving believers no imagination and low IQs?

      November 30, 2012 at 2:49 pm |
    • Lynn

      There is only One God. If you are looking under a rock, it's not at all surprising that you haven't found Him. God is Spirit. When you die, you will be sorry you spoke this way of Him.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:52 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Lynn

      OOoooo spooky. Gee I guess we'll all convert now, since no one has ever used such an amazing fear tactic to avoid proving their concept of god is real. What an original thinker you must be.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:54 pm |
    • Lynn

      @Madtown ... true they all have Scriptures. But if you open your heart and seek God, He will show you the way. The Way is through Jesus Christ, the Son of God, which you will find if you seek God with depth, humility, and sincerity. People cannot show this to you, only God can reveal the truth to you.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:59 pm |
    • Madtown

      The Way is through Jesus Christ, the Son of God
      -------
      Well, that certainly stinks for humans(your equals) who God chose to place in cultures and areas of the world where christianity doesn't exist, and they'll never have an opportunity to learn who Jesus Christ is. Very unfortunate for them. I guess we're just plain lucky that we were born in a Euro-influenced culture! Or, maybe God just loves us more?

      November 30, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
    • sam

      Lynn, you forgot to add "...or He will GET YOU."

      November 30, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
    • Lynn

      @Madtwon ... Jesus was sent by God to the world for our salvation. Anyone who dies without the benefit of knowing Him in this life, will be judged based on what they had to work with. If He deems them fit to spend eternity in His kingdom (based on the content of their heart and actions), they will still be saved through Jesus Christ, and will know Him then. People reject God blindly, even though knowledge of Him is available. This rejection of the God of the universe will be judged accordingly. God sees the heart. God is just.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:20 pm |
    • JDM

      Well, when I die, IF the god of the bible does turn out to be real, I'll request that I be sent right to hell. The way "he" manipulates people into liking "him", with his promises of an eternity of suffering if you don't, is quite childish.

      god = selfish brat who's going to take his toys and go home if you don't see things his way.

      No thanks, I'll take my chances with the Prince of Darkness.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
    • Madtown

      they will still be saved through Jesus Christ, and will know Him then
      -----–
      How very convenient. So, one can still be "saved through Jesus", even though they've never heard of him. That's good news! Of course, you're just trying to rationalize why your belief system is superior to all others, which it is not.

      What you've stated here, is that Jesus isn't required for "salvation", because God knows what's in the heart. Again, good news because this also means there's no need for religion, as God knows what in our hearts and if we're worthy people he will approve. The good qualities "in our hearts" of course being items that Jesus did preach, love your neighbor, etc, but all cultures have these as qualities to aspire to, christianity has never had a lock on them.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
    • Lynn

      @Madtown ... I know it's a little late to comment here, but I will anyway. Actually, what I stated is that Jesus IS necessary for salvation. Reread if you don't see that. No one will enter heaven apart from Him. The individual who has not had adequate access to the gospel, will obviously not be accountable for having rejected Him. They will be judged by a criteria that is based on what is in their heart and deeds, including towards the Creator. What is in the heart of the unbeliever who has the truth available to them, i.e. the gospel of Jesus Christ, is the rejection of the God who made them, having not given Him the chance to make Himself known to you in a personal relationship with Him. The result will be eternal separation from God. This is what will be there on judgment day, when it is too late to repent of rejecting the Savior of the world, His love towards you, and His grace. Hence, the justice of God. It is not about kind deeds, which cannot save the soul. It is about how you respond to God.

      November 30, 2012 at 6:10 pm |
    • Madtown

      No one will enter heaven apart from Him.
      ----–
      Lynn, why do you suppose God just didn't send other sons/daughters to all cultures and groupings of his human creations on earth at the time of Christ? That way, he could reach everyone with this supposed divine message, and there would be no question which way to follow. God created this vast and complex universe, yet couldn't have more than 1 son? Curious.

      November 30, 2012 at 9:47 pm |
    • Lynn

      @Madtown ... the truth is that there is one God and one Christ. You are looking at this from the perspective of taking all that God has presented to humanity, and to "judge" Him for how He has planned to form His eternal family. What He has presented is this vast, complex, and amazing creation of the physical world–which most people know can only be attributed to an intelligent and unseen, higher being. What He has also presented is the gospel of salvation, through centuries-old prophesy of the Messiah, prophesy that has been fulfilled. God has made Himself known to humanity.

      He created the physical world, and the spiritual world. You would do better to fear, rather than to judge, from your limited human perspective, the One, true, living God of the universe. Whoever loves God, loves the Son whom He sent. You cannot intelligently discount what you haven't opened your heart to. I've experienced the truth of God and Christ firsthand. It's not something you want to miss.

      November 30, 2012 at 10:53 pm |
    • Madtown

      God has made Himself known to humanity
      ------
      Sorry, you just go round and round with circular reasoning. All I'm saying is that the christian way is not the "only right way" to see God, to feel spirituality. It can't be, otherwise God would provide the way to everyone, because we're all equal. Continue to fool yourself if you like, the truth is not everyone in this world knows about Jesus, through no fault of their own. They may have an idea of God, but it won't necessarily align with yours. I believe in God, I don't think religion has the answers. The irony is, had you been born in Saudi Arabia, you'd be a Muslim, and would most definitely not think that christianity was the right way to follow.

      December 1, 2012 at 11:59 am |
    • Lynn

      Madtown, some food for thought:

      You imply that the case I am making for my belief in Christ doesn't have "reason" to it, but that is only because it doesn't suit you to see the reasoning to it. It is agreed that there are people who have died without having heard the gospel. You have decided, and maybe it is what some Christians have told you, that what is taught is that only Christians will be saved. Jesus speaks of a salvation that looks at the heart and the deeds as well, which makes perfect sense in light of the fact that not all people will hear the gospel. He also spoke of belief in Him. You use the idea of "exclusitivity to Christians" to claim that Christianity cannot be true, due to all of the people who will not know of this. God is much bigger than that, as you and I apparently agree. The problem, is that people who have the gospel available to them, and refuse to give God a chance to show if it is true, have rejected the Son of God, who gave His life for forgiveness of sins to all who believe.

      God is holy. How will you answer for why you had no use for the promises of Jesus Christ? What is the path of redemption for you without Him? God will give you entrance into a holy place on your merits? Believers are perfect in Him, not apart from Him. Your statement is that you will be fine, without placing your trust in Jesus, and that he is not divine and was deluded and spoke falsely. Your belief is based on the reasoning that "God would not send only one Savior, when some will not hear, and Christianity is therefore false."

      As to your question about what if I were born in Saudi Arabia, I thank God that I wasn't. The world is in darkness. I was blessed to be born in a better part of the world. There are Christian outreaches all over the world spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ. If it were meant to be, I would hear of Him and believe. If I didn't hear, I would be judged on a different criteria. Again, He is a just God. He does not condemn anyone for not having been born in the right part of the world, or for not hearing the gospel. To hear the gospel, with all of its depth and history, and its promise of eternal life in the Kingdom of Heaven, and have no use for it, is to reject God. Only God can judge who had adequate access to His gospel, but rejecting Jesus Christ the Lord, will be judged accordingly by Him for what it is. If you are comfortable with it right up to death, that will be between you and God. You can have a sense of sprirituality, but it doesn't necessarily hold the truth or lead to eternal life.

      December 1, 2012 at 9:08 pm |
    • Lynn

      (typo ... i meant "exclusivity")

      December 1, 2012 at 9:13 pm |
    • Madtown

      You imply that the case I am making for my belief in Christ doesn't have "reason" to it
      --------
      Lynn, I'm hearing a blanket disregard for reasonableness of some of the logical problems I'm addressing. What I'm hearing from you, is the same thing I've heard in church for years, the standard lines. I've heard for years that "no one comes to God but through Jesus". That is in the bible. Reason tells us that not all people in the world have access to the bible, and Jesus. This isn't an arguable point, it's a fact. I've also heard in church that God created everyone equal. So, God created all equal, yet denied some the way to salvation? That just doesn't add up. God is almighty, created the vast and complex universe. REASON tells us that if God is this powerful, he could send as many sons/daughters as necessary to reach all human populations on the earth at the time of christ. Yet, only 1 son. Why? Clearly, since he created us equal, he'd want us to have the same chance at salvation, and if there were only 1 way to salvation, he provide us all with that way since we're equal. He hasn't, so the only REASONABLE conclusion is that God doesn't only accept 1 way of looking at him(religion).

      Again, if you were born in the middle east, you'd be a Muslim. You'd then believe the Muslim faith, are ardently as you believe christianity. Are the people in the Middle East not God's creation? Not your equal? How can they be following the wrong path, when it's the path that's been laid in front of them since they were young, as it was with you? The simple, reasonable, answer, is that they believe in God, they are following the path they believe to be the correct one, they believe you are on the incorrect path, and they believe it as passionately as you do. Who is right? Neither of you. One more time: if God intended for there to be only 1 correct religion, or pathway to him, he'd have to provide it to all his equal creations. He is most certainly almighty enough to have done so.

      Instead of regurgitating the classic evangelical lines, when confronted with these logical problems/questions, are you actually able to explain it in your own words, as if you've thought about it yourself, and not just attended bible study?

      Thanks for the conversation! Hope you are doing well. Interestingly, I was in church earlier today! ;)

      December 1, 2012 at 10:14 pm |
    • Lynn

      The Scriptures sound like regurgitation to you, if you hear it spoken from more than one person? That's a convenient dismissal, which doesn't seem to have a lot of logic to it. There should be no Scriptures, because it will sound bad when more than one person speaks the same truths? All of my thinking is 100% me, though, I simply rely on the same Bible to tell me of God's plan for salvation, among other sacred truths of God. It is the foundation. Much of what you are hearing me say isn't something that you would commonly hear in church. I think many Christians do believe that only Christians will be saved. What I'm speaking about is not a common understanding at all in my experience. I happen to be a very thoughtful, original thinker. I'm usually the one to get the debate going. So you have me all wrong. The gospel is what it is, though. It may sound similar, or even the same, from one person to the next. It is a great truth of God.

      You are presenting me a with a logical problem: You believe that God would have made the path of salvation equally known to all people. You say that I am avoiding it, but I have given you my reasoned answer. It just doesn't fit your preconceived notion of what Christianity claims. You believe that God would have created a problem for Himself, with the fact that some will not hear. Do you believe that the Bible teaches that all people born before Christ will be condemned? After all, there were no Christians yet. The biblical teaching, overall, does not claim that only Christians will be saved. It speaks of "other folds" that will enter into heaven also. It also speaks in a dire manner of whoever rejects the Son of Man. Again, Jesus spoke also of a deeds-based salvation. But to reject His words is a different story. You have rejected Him, when you do not believe Him when He says that He is the only way to God.

      As to being born in the Middle East, there is a certain percentage of people who have converted to Christianity from Islam. The gospel is there, as it is around the world. It is a powerful testimony to the fact that He lives, that thousands of people will leave the faith of their upbringing to follow Christ.

      You haven't answered my question to you: What will be the path of redemption without a Savior? It's very personal, I know, but are you already good enough for God's kingdom?

      December 1, 2012 at 11:10 pm |
    • Lynn

      Btw, I've enjoyed the conversation as well. I wish you all the best!

      December 1, 2012 at 11:19 pm |
    • Lynn

      I'll give my final comment, just in case you check back here.

      What I feel that I am seeing in our dialog, is that you are operating from a false notion of what Christianity claims, then you answer your own false presumption with what you feel is the only sound possibility regarding the path to eternal life. It's called setting up a "straw man" argument, in which you then appear to make an argument in tearing the straw man down, which didn't exist to begin with. Your straw man is the idea that what Christianity claims, is that, where the gospel isn't present, a path to salvation is also not available to those individuals. Since this would make God fundamentally unjust, it proves to you that Christianity presents a false claim, in the words of Jesus Christ: "I am the way, the truth, and the life; no one comes unto the Father but by Me." You are denying that Jesus is who He claimed to be–which is the Christ, the Son of the living God–on the basis that you don't see fairness in your perception of the salvation scenario. Also, you repeatedly failed to see that I am in agreement with you, that there will be many people who will die without hearing the gospel, and thereby, feeling that I never answered your logic scenario. I am not in agreement that Christianity claims that these individuals do not have God available to them.

      You put yourself in the place of the person who won't hear the gospel, because we are all equal, and you think you will not be accountable for your response to the gospel, on the basis of this supposed unfairness. The problem, as I said before, is that you are not in the place that that individual is in. You have been exposed to the gospel in more than a passing way in your life. It is the light of God.

      I would suggest to you, sincerely, that you not throw away the chance to know God in an intimate and personal way and to have eternal life, on the basis of your deeply flawed logic. Every human being will be judged on the basis of what they had to work with. To deny Christ, is to deny God the Father. Jesus Christ is LORD–not one single soul will come unto the Father, but by Him. It is about the glory of God revealed in Him. God doesn't need more than one Savior. Not one soul will be lost, on the basis that they grew up with Islam and that is all they knew. It is how they respond to God, in His wise judgment. There are truths in all faiths. There can be some sense of spirituality in other ways of thinking about God, but apart from Christ, we are dead to God in sin and in need of a Savior. Only one faith has the truth of the Son of God, sin, and salvation. I hope you find true life. God bless.

      December 4, 2012 at 7:54 pm |
  16. Vic

    Think about it this way:

    God is omnipotent! He can create anything as quick as He wants and give it the nature it has thereafter!

    When God created this universe, from nothing, He made it totally formed/aged/complete (what naturally takes billions of years or so) at six-day-old!

    So, even if the universe has the nature of developing over 13.7 billion years, and Earth over 4.5 billion years, God made it all happen (jump start) during the days of Creation!

    Just like Adam. God created Adam an adult. He was a fully grown man at one-day-old and gave him the human nature (passed on to us) of growing fully over nine months in the womb and 18-21 years after birth! The same goes for all other creatures!

    Also, the days of Creation were regular days like we have today! The Bible describes the cycle of morning, evening and night throughout the days of Creation in Genesis 1.

    As for the "dinosaurs," I think it is possible that they where on the Globe during the time of Adam to Noah, when it was only a few people on Earth, then wiped out by the flood or maybe by natural processes (including expedited fossilizing) that science has not discovered yet! Also, archeologists have found a tremendous amount of antiquities depicting humans and dinosaurs together!

    More on:-

    – "Science" that is discovered by man is "NOT EXACT," it is only "approximate" for we are limited and can not know everything! (The Scientific Community attests to that!)

    – "Exact Science" is the expression of the mechanism of this physical universe. It is part of the "Natural Revelation" by God.

    – God created this universe and its "Exact Science;" that is the how of it (the nature of it/physical laws/laws of nature/God given nature.)

    Until this day:-

    – Science finds that all the vastness and sophistication we observe accounts to only 4% of the universe, and the other 96% of it is completely unknown to us!

    – Science finds that we have only deciphered the part of our DNA responsible for reproduction, which is only 5% of it, and the other 95% is not decipherable!

    – Science finds that polymerase can only extend and existing DNA strand and CAN NOT create a new one!

    – Science finds that our DNA is the most massive data storage device in the universe, and all the supercomputers on the globe combined can not match that capacity!

    – Science finds that the secrets to all life forms might not lie in the cosmos but in our own DNA!

    When you think about God, keep an open mind to that God Himself is not subject to this physical world and its science (physical laws) that He created. Therefore, science can not prove or disprove God! In scientific terms God is imponderable!

    Also, keep an open mind to that God made all elements that make up this universe finite, even though we are incapable of seeing its limits, for we are also finite, yet, He Himself is infinite!

    We can not possibly know everything about God, His creation and/or His plans! The Holy Bible mentions "the mystery of God." Read Mark 4:11, Romans 16:25, 1 Corinthians 2:7, Colossians 2:2, and Revelation 10:7 as examples to how we don't know everything concerning God and His work.

    Furthermore:

    I am a born again Christian Protestant (Saved by Grace through Faith alone in Jesus Christ,) and I have everything to do with science! I am very open minded. I believe "Individual Freedom" is an "Unalienable Right" endowed by the Creator. Everyone is free to believe in whatever he/she wants!

    I share this out of service to my fellow man and without judgement! If I were to judge, I will have to judge only myself!

    November 30, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
    • ME II

      "Also, archeologists have found a tremendous amount of antiquities depicting humans and dinosaurs together!"
      This is incorrect. Please cite your sources.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:39 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      Your post comes down to "No matter what anyone says, god done it works for me because I say so". Go to your church where they might actually respect that kind of fallacious argument.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:43 pm |
    • Aezel

      Your post is an epic mountain of bull-s***.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:43 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @ME II

      He's talking about a set of 10,000 or so stones that supposedly depicted giant lizard looking things with humans in a cave somewhere. The problem is that those stones were found to be artifically aged to look between 500-700 years old. It's a claim that was debunked a while ago.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:49 pm |
    • Which God?

      Holy Schitt! (no, I'm not catholic). What a lot of nonsense. Consider the source and we see why.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:51 pm |
    • Bob

      not to be too picky, but on the first "day" of creation, there was no 'evening nor morning'....without rotating heavenly bodies or solar light. However, whether the earth has always had 24 hour days..the Bible IS silent on that...Nevertheless..God created our reality supernaturally without the use of 'scientific processes as we know them. That is the main point. Jehovah God created Time, not science. If a day was a billion years, WHAT DIFFERENCE does it make theologically...the real argument is not the vastness of time (in the human perspective) but the omnipotence of God. Jehovah God created the universe, not the god of evolution...If you accept that..then other 'scientific' difficulties are meaningless. If you cannot accept special creation, you cannot accept the Genesis Flood account, nor the Gospels account of Jesus' death and miraculous resurrection. If you cannot accept the resurrection, then there is no reason, nor hope in claiming to be a Christian.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
    • Kim

      ROFLMAO.......That is absurd......

      November 30, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      "- "Exact Science" is the expression of the mechanism of this physical universe. It is part of the "Natural Revelation" by God."

      More absolutist nonsense.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:56 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      Vic, you're totally insane! There is no God. No Jesus. Only unicorns and leprechauns, my bed-wetting friend. As I sat in a seedy tavern with your mother and your pastor the other day, they both agreed that you were nuts. In fact your mother taught me trick of using a Bible for a coaster so the beer wouldn't drip onto the table but rather would soak into that thick tome of nonsense.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      Boob, you're nuts as well. Why do you believe this nonsense called religion? Just accept that Mother Nature created everything by accident.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:05 pm |
    • w schauweker

      Why all the exclamation marks?

      November 30, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
    • Primewonk

      Ah Vic – so you choose to worship a trickster god! You worship Loki, the Norse god of mischief!

      November 30, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
    • Loki

      Kneel before me, you dull creature!

      November 30, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
    • Miriam

      You are right on! Yes there is evidence of Dinosaurs and human bones in the same strata.......the evolutionary theoroist (and yes its still a theory folks!) try to hide that evidence but its been uncovered in Utah and Arizona. Heres another thought.....why are we not seeing today evolution taking place? Yes we have micro evolution but no macro going on or even evidence of it. Seriously.........where did the "matter" for the Big Bang come from? Why would God even waste His time on having evolution take place? He is after all omnipotent, He is the Creator of the Universe....nothing is to big for Him. You believe in oxygen dont you? Well you can see it, smell, hear it, taste it or feel it but you believe its there and you trust it will keep you alive......why cant you trust in an all powerful God that holds the world in the palm of His mighty hand? I find it very stress relieving knowing Im not the one in charge but that God is the one in charge!

      November 30, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
    • JustRight

      Miriam – Serious question: every statement you made is easily refuted (and has been for years) and im wondering if youre just too lazy to learn or if youre unable to learn

      November 30, 2012 at 3:35 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Miriam

      Wow you're really just out there. Tell you what, when you educate yourself to what a scientific theory is, come back and maybe we can correct all your other completely ridiculous points.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:35 pm |
    • OTOH

      Miriam:
      "I find it very stress relieving knowing Im not the one in charge but that God is the one in charge!"

      Stress-relief and wishful thinking notwithstanding, there is no evidence that there is anyone up/out/over/under there who does a darn thing... no evidence that anyone is coming to do a darn thing. We're on our own here. It's up to us to make this world the best that we can.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      What an azzhole god. "Here, I'm going to create stuff in 6 days and then make it look billions of years old!! What a hoot!"

      December 1, 2012 at 10:22 pm |
  17. Bob

    Simple> you either believe the Bible in which reality is supernatural..thus creation by God w/o natural forces..miraculous resurrection from the dead or
    You put your faith in science which is anti-supernatural, 100% rational, observable, confirmable w/o 'irrational' faith.
    Sadly, Robertson has chosen the latter which puts him into realm of apostasy. You cannot be a Christian and choose science over the Bible. You either believe, the unbelievable or you don't. If you believe that Jesus miraculously rose from the Dead, if you believe God miraculously parted the Red Sea...if you belief in angelic interaction with humans, if you believe in Manna sent from heaven to the children of Israel...why would you deny a creation devoid of evolution and scientific processes???? Robertson is getting senile. He was also a fringe Christian, now he has denied his faith. Turn off CBN, now!

    November 30, 2012 at 2:34 pm |
    • Medrin Slerba

      What about the Pope? Should all catholic turn their backs to him? After all he has recognized the existence of evolution.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:49 pm |
    • Jamal0390

      Do christians and members of all faiths and religions realize the all books of spiritual origin were written and compiled by Someone other than god or whatever you believe? Throughout our known history (includes the birth of christianity) we know that there have been religions much older than the bible, Men wrote the bible and if you believe that all men are flawed then QED the bible is also flawed. I believe in many parts of the bible but when it comes to facts like the age of the earth I stick to scientific fact. I use my faith as a moral compass to lead my life not to define it.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:50 pm |
    • Revtim

      Ironic that you consider a man changing his view from myths and fables to reality as a sign of senility. Senility actually works the other way usually.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:51 pm |
    • Which God?

      How can a fictional person die? Jeebus never was. There are no extant records of him. Please, don't cite Josephus. Known fake entrys.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:56 pm |
    • Bob

      Jamal0390: You are correct. Other religious writings are flawed. But Christians believe that the Bible is inerrant, without error in the original manuscripts. Furthermore, the Scriptures say that the Bible is 'God-breathed' and that the Holy Spirit oversaw the 'writings' to eliminate human error. Thus, to be a Christian, is to be a believer in the Word. And if you believe it, you obey it, and accept its teachings as fundamental reality.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
    • Peteyroo

      Boob, do the attendants know you're out? Please take your medicine and return to your room.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
  18. N.Shapiro

    What was a day before the s un was created?
    The Bible does not say that God created the world in 7 days, as we know them.,and there are 2 differing accounts in Genesis.
    It does not say [as in the KJV] In THE beginning, it says "b'rashis boru" in beginning, or for a start, not "b'HA rashis" which would mean. in THEbegnning.. This is all Hebrew poetry, and has many levels of meaning, one main one is to show a difference between the Creator and created, the pagans worshipped the created.
    Robertson is right, for once, even the Pope has recognized evolution, and Maimonides did so, and said it, hundreds of years ago.

    November 30, 2012 at 2:31 pm |
    • Believer

      That would be the third day, so, a Tuesday. God made the Sun on the 4th day.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:50 pm |
    • Primewonk

      " God made the Sun on the 4th day."

      So Sun day is Wednesday?

      November 30, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
  19. Nietodarwin

    It is just as easy to disprove any sort of "intelligent design" as to prove 2+2=4 Do you believe in gravity, the atomic bomb. Just because you by these books does not make for sound science. Keep you faith if you like, but call a spade a spade. THERE IS NO SCIENCE IN FAITH......that's why it's called faith. You are embarrassing yourselves, and if you are teaching this to children and young people you are basically guilty of child abuse. You are keeping our nation's test scores low. This is why people of science and reason hate the religious, because of the harm you do. I don't care if you believe the bible or shoot heroin, but leave the young OUT of it.

    November 30, 2012 at 2:30 pm |
    • chuckb

      "if you are teaching this to children and young people you are basically guilty of child abuse." You are a brainwashed fool. You are trying to teach our kids that we came from monkeys and that life is about survival of the fittest – get all you can, anytime you want, if you don't get it take from the weak and the poor. You should be the ones guilty of child abuse. Why do you think so many people have to have drugs to get them through the day? Because you teach them your insane dead-end so-called science. Think for yourself for a change instead having some egg-head prof who can't get a real job tell you what to think.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:45 pm |
  20. darwinlivs

    47% of americans beleive the world is 6000 years old? My god, where are those damned teachers when you need them?
    Must be Obamas fault!

    November 30, 2012 at 2:29 pm |
    • Hard Drinkin' Lincoln

      And yet we're a superpower. And people wonder why the world is f****d.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:40 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      The aftermath of the wars of the 20th century seems to have convinced many people in other parts of the world that there is no God.

      The US were the only real winners of the wars of the 20th century. Hence people here cling to traditions more strongly here than in other places. Our turn will come.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
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