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What we may have in common with 'Two and a Half Men' actor
Angus T. Jones, left, in an episode of "Two and a Half Men."
November 29th, 2012
03:12 PM ET

What we may have in common with 'Two and a Half Men' actor

By Michael Martinez, CNN

Hollywood, California (CNN) –In the introduction to the TV sitcom "Two and a Half Men," actor Angus T. Jones morphs from boy to teen before our eyes. Now we're watching the actor venture into adulthood and the complicated moral questions that come with it.

This week in posted Internet videos, Jones announced his ethical and religious awakening by condemning as "filth" the CBS show that made him rich and famous.

Jones isn't alone in facing his crisis of conscience. His experience, though dramatic, is universal in how many job holders struggle to reconcile work and spiritual values, experts say.

"At some level, all of us, probably not publicly, ask the hard question that he's asking," said David Miller, director of Princeton University's Faith & Work Initiative.

"What is the honor and dignity and meaning and purpose of (our) work? Is our work for making a good buck and has no ethical or moral or societal value, or should our work have a more noble dimension to it?" Miller said. "As we look at him afar, he's doing a service by raising the same question."

Clearly, we all can't make such loud declarations about our jobs. But Jones enjoys privileges.

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He's a millionaire Hollywood figure on one of television's most successful shows. And he's only 19 years old.

"What he's displaying is the kind of passion that commonly infects the newly converted or those that have just found religion," said Paul Root Wolpe, director of the Center for Ethics at Emory University. "It's also a very easy thing to do in that he's already become wealthy and famous for how long now - nine years."

The hard question

Jones poses a hard question, encountered by all who believe in a supreme being, Miller said.

"Instead of saying, 'What do I want to do with my life?' he's asking, 'What would be pleasing to God?' And that's a very different metric," Miller said.

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Such moral conflicts play out in many professions, with physicians and abortions, pharmacists and the morning-after pill, and financiers and greedy strategies, say ethicists and other experts. In Jones' case, the actor seems at odds with the "artificial environment of show business," Wolpe said.

The answers fall across a spectrum.

"So what do you do?" said Miller, who, before joining academia, was a business and finance executive. "Do you walk away from the question mark, or do you stay and try to change within the question mark?

"Maybe he'll stay in Hollywood and try to find work more in line with his values. Or will Hollywood spit him out?" Miller said.

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The actor has apologized for any offense to the cast and crew of "Two and a Half Men," where he's worked since 2003.

He said in a statement: "I apologize if my remarks reflect me showing indifference to and disrespect of my colleagues and a lack of appreciation of the extraordinary opportunity of which I have been blessed. I never intended that."

But in an online video earlier this week, Jones repeatedly urges viewers not to watch the show, in which he plays an only child growing up amid male adult antics in a Malibu beachfront house.

"I'm on 'Two and a Half Men,' and I don't want to be on it," he said. "You cannot be a true God-fearing person and be on a television show like that. I know I can't. I'm not OK with what I'm learning, what the Bible says, and being on that television show. You go all or nothing."

Jones also references "the enemy's" deception, an apparent allusion to the devil, and asserts "There's no playing around when it comes to eternity."

Seventh-day Adventist

In June, Jones joined the Seventh-day Adventist Church, a Protestant faith with 1.1 million members in North America. The church says it's not involved with Jones' online testimonials nor with video host Christopher Hudson of the Forerunner Chronicles, whose website emphasizes Judgment Day and the Bible's Book of Revelation. Hudson couldn't be reached for comment.

It's too early to discern what impact Jones' testimonial will have on the sitcom and his career. Jones won't appear in the two remaining episodes now being taped before the holiday break, sources close to production told CNN. His absence was scripted well before the videos' release Monday, the sources said.

Almost two years ago, "Two and a Half Men" was embroiled in another controversy centered on a prominent cast member: Charlie Sheen, who was fired after public rants that included invectives against producer Chuck Lorre.

Wolpe wonders if Jones went too far.

"Interestingly, that show plays on exactly the kind of immaturity he plays on," Wolpe said. "The show itself has an adolescent, prurient sense of humor.

"This show is deeply kind of misogynistic and very male - it's like a fraternity in there with a revolving door of women," he said. "So it's not surprising that he expresses dissatisfaction and estrangement from the show in a way that was equally immature.

"I don't know if he can recover from this or not," Wolpe added.

Jones' passion reflects how ethics vary among the faithful.

"You have to keep in mind that it really means different things to different people," said Diana Cates, a University of Iowa professor of religious ethics. "Even within a given religious tradition, there's so much diversity. There are people on the edges who identify with one tradition or blend traditions."

Frequently, a conversion or awakening such as Jones' renounces the past.

"In terms of radical conversion experiences, the life that one has immediately, previously led is often denied or criticized severely," said Joseph Price, a professor of religious studies at Whittier College in California. "The life itself is not denied - but the lifestyle is," he added. "It often results from a crisis of conscience or a perceived revelation of some kind."

Price likened actors to athletes and recalled how baseball player Billy Sunday was a "rabble rouser and carouser" around the turn of the 20th century. Then, after a religious experience, Sunday quit baseball and became a preacher who fought to make alcoholic beverages illegal, he said.

"When persons find authenticity in a lifestyle that embraces the good, it often prompts them to make shifts in their own lives in profound ways," Price said. "If that's the case here, we'll be able to see how it affects the long run of his nonacting life and his presence in the series and in television itself."

- CNN Belief Blog

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soundoff (1,088 Responses)
  1. Dennis

    Jones god says give me your money and I will clean it for you!!

    November 29, 2012 at 10:04 pm |
  2. LVguest

    With any luck, he'll resign to demonstrate that he's not the hypocrite that he has so blatantly revealed himself to be, OR he'll be fired and I won't have to watch him try to act anymore. CBS, please take note . . . he adds NOTHING TO THE SHOW!!!!!

    November 29, 2012 at 10:03 pm |
  3. cindy lou who

    please pray everyone.....our country is under the control of the antichrist in Obama....St. Michael the Archangel...defend us in battle...be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil....may God rebuke him we humbly pray...and do Thou o Prince of the Heavenly Host thrust into Hell Satan and all other evil spirits who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls Amen

    November 29, 2012 at 9:45 pm |
    • chris

      your post has nothing to do with the subject matter. seriously put, you need professional counseling – please, go get it.

      November 29, 2012 at 9:56 pm |
    • LVguest

      cindy lou who, Get up off your knees and quit groveling to your imaginary daddy in the sky long enough to evolve from the pathetic fool that your post has revealed you to be.

      November 29, 2012 at 9:58 pm |
    • Realist

      Hilarious! 10/10. Would read again!

      November 29, 2012 at 10:01 pm |
    • Dennis

      complete and utter Crapolia!

      November 29, 2012 at 10:02 pm |
    • Dave

      Yeah, you go ahead and do that, sweetie. Chant your silly little spells as if there's actually something out there that cares, and bothers to listen to someone as ridiculous as you. Just leave handling the problems to those of us who don't need imaginary friends to cope with reality. 'Kay?

      November 29, 2012 at 10:03 pm |
    • hey

      Please leave the country. Your type are not wanted here.

      November 29, 2012 at 10:04 pm |
    • sam stone

      The Anti-Christ in Obama? Please take your meds

      November 30, 2012 at 2:45 am |
  4. sara

    Well look at that. A young man with the courage to take a stand on something. You don't see that very often anymore ....

    November 29, 2012 at 9:26 pm |
    • Dave

      Blindly parroting nonsense is not courage, and the only thing he's standing on, is an incredible mountain of hypocrisy.

      November 29, 2012 at 9:32 pm |
    • Saraswati

      Since he apologized and withdrew the statement its something you are't seeing now either.

      November 29, 2012 at 9:58 pm |
    • MikeB59

      But not courageous enough to quit the show and not take the $385,000 per episode.

      November 29, 2012 at 9:59 pm |
  5. HotTea

    Not to mention he's a really bad actor.

    November 29, 2012 at 9:13 pm |
    • LVguest

      And that is the bald truth!

      November 29, 2012 at 9:59 pm |
  6. Dave

    Poor kid was victimized and brainwashed by opportunistic purveyors of filth, and he turned his back on his sole source of income. Do these sick religious nuts know no shame? Will they support this kid of he gets fired for biting the hand that feeds him? Nope...the second he's poor, they'll drop him like a hot rock.

    November 29, 2012 at 9:07 pm |
  7. Nietodarwin

    Hey, I didn't exactly study up and get all these quotes citing chapter and verse ready to go on here, I just went to Freedom From Religion Foundation's website (ffrf.orf) and copied these tidbits from the "bible quiz" section, and an atheist quote site, and then threw them in when the context seemed appropriate and germane to whatever somebody had written. They have another quiz regarding separation of church and state. Even if you are a "die hard " believer, it won't kill you to go there, it would probably make you a more thoughtful christian, and would make a lot of you a lot less obnoxious and "save" some of you from looking downright uneducated. Nuff said. Have a nice night.

    November 29, 2012 at 9:04 pm |
    • Matt

      people should listen to this guy. We hold differing views on this but we found a way to agree. Half of you on here sound like you wake up, watch ten seconds of news, go to your culturally segregated lives, and then take what little you actually know and spew crap. Read, Write, Talk, THINK!!!!!

      November 29, 2012 at 9:12 pm |
    • Nah

      nie: "Hey, I didn't exactly study up and get all these quotes citing chapter and verse ready to go on here, I just went to Freedom From Religion Foundation's website (ffrf.orf)"

      First, given your name, your pretend discovery of the website is seriously in doubt.

      Second, going to the "Freedom From Religion Foundation" to prove religion is bad is like going to Fox News to prove Obama was born in Kenya.

      Consider the source. A partisan group will never give you information that is in context and that hasn't been distorted.

      November 29, 2012 at 9:28 pm |
    • Nietodarwin

      Wow, the comments slowed. I came back to turn this contraption off and saw I'd been answered. Matt thanks for the compliment, I think I'll print it to keep me cool on this subject in the future. You other person, I said " I went, I wasn't pretending I "discovered" it tonight. It was a nice ready source of "ammo" for me. Atheist quotes is easy to google. You can get great quotes on ANY subject you want at brainyquote.com. Nah is a good name for you, kind of negative and antagonistical from the beginning eh? Go to brainyquote yourself. Really , this time good night

      November 29, 2012 at 9:39 pm |
  8. Plumbline

    John 3:8
    The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

    November 29, 2012 at 9:04 pm |
    • Spirit Level

      Numbers 31:17-18
      17 Now kiII all the boys. And kiII every woman who has slept with a man,
      18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

      Deuteronomy 13:6 – “If your brother, your mother’s son or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul entice you secretly, saying, let us go and serve other gods … you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death”

      Revelations 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

      November 29, 2012 at 9:10 pm |
    • Dave

      "Go round up anybody who won't worship me, bring them here, and slaughter them in front of me" – Jesus, Luke 19:27

      November 29, 2012 at 9:15 pm |
    • Nah

      dave: ""Go round up anybody who won't worship me, bring them here, and slaughter them in front of me" – Jesus, Luke 19:27"

      Oh please. Go read the quote in context and the story it was used in.

      This is worse than taking Obama's "you didn't build that" quote out of context.

      November 29, 2012 at 9:31 pm |
    • Dave

      Fundies always hide behind the cheap excuse of "context" when they know they're wrong. Just like "islam", "christianity" is a brutal, evil religion based on hate, fear, lies, and blood sacrifice. Hardly surprising they have so much in common, considering their common origin.

      November 29, 2012 at 9:51 pm |
  9. Jt_flyer

    Cut the baloney. The show has always been filthy; now its terrible and filthy.

    November 29, 2012 at 9:03 pm |
  10. joe800

    It all boils down to this: if your particular 'faith' was the truth, then it would have made itself very apparent like all the other 'truths' in the world. ie: fire is hot, ice is cold, what goes up must come down, all living things die, the laws of physics, if you put 10 socks in the washer only 9 will come out. Why so many variations of faith?..Why are some soooo afraid of the others?...Why does god need my money?..We are free to believe, or not....keep it to yourself, it's none of my business, and none of yours either...

    November 29, 2012 at 8:53 pm |
    • Matt

      Why so many variations of faith? Because it is a cultural adaptation. Different cultures have adapted faith to fit into their cultural values that assist in survival. Why are some sooo afraid of the others? because we live in a world of conflicting values. 400 years ago people didn't know how many different cultures there were. Now we do. And these cultures share different values because it has taken different values to survive in their enviornments.

      its not about what faith you have, its that you have faith

      November 29, 2012 at 9:01 pm |
    • Nah

      joe: "We are free to believe, or not....keep it to yourself, it's none of my business, and none of yours either..."

      If their religion is none of your business, then why are you telling them to keep it to themselves? Seems you're trying to make it your business, and, more importantly, that you're trying to dictate what they may and may not do.

      November 29, 2012 at 9:32 pm |
    • Realist

      Be quiet kid, or Santa Jesus will not give you presents when you die.

      November 29, 2012 at 10:05 pm |
  11. Nietodarwin

    I don't care so much about the story or the kid, ( he has made me laugh over the years, and I'm sorry he' trapped in religion)
    I'm happy SO MANY PEOPLE are talking about it, and calling out RELIGIOUS FILTH for what it is......FILTH Face it, this is the beginning of the beginning of the end of such powerful influence on our society by religion, and it's high time it happened. "You people" still have freedom of religion, but now maybe the rest of us will have freedom FROM religion, and can voice our opinion without fear of harm or murder, (which history shows us , christians have been pretty good at murdering non-bleievers.) PEACE AND LOVE BROTHER (No I don't consider those christian concepts.......see .(Matthew 10:34) (Luke 12:49-51)

    November 29, 2012 at 8:50 pm |
    • Nah

      The intolerant and hypocritical irony in your posts is delicious.

      You must be trolling.

      November 29, 2012 at 9:33 pm |
  12. GAW

    Now more people will want to watch Two and a Half Men....Nice job Angus.

    November 29, 2012 at 8:44 pm |
  13. Nietodarwin

    If Atheism is a religion, then health is a disease!
    Clark Adams

    November 29, 2012 at 8:42 pm |
    • SDA.and.Proud

      just to get a clue, what in the lifestyle of believing in God and following the Bible are you against at? what is your ideal lifestyle without God... can you enlighten me?

      November 29, 2012 at 8:45 pm |
    • Obamstein

      follow the bible and you have slavery and polgomy among others

      November 29, 2012 at 8:46 pm |
    • SDA.and.Proud

      would you like to share with me where in the Bible have you found that it requires you to have Slaves to be a Christian? Not gonna lie i found your comment quite hilarious

      November 29, 2012 at 8:51 pm |
    • SDA.and.Proud

      And the same thing about Polygamy*, where does it say that?

      November 29, 2012 at 8:52 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      The bible clearly states that slavery and polygamy are morally right.

      November 29, 2012 at 8:53 pm |
    • SDA.and.Proud

      again would you like to tell me exactly where that is found in the Bible? because I have been reading that book since i can remember and I have never seen anywhere, cover to cover, that it is morally right to have more than one wife, and to have slaves... quite the contrary chap

      November 29, 2012 at 8:56 pm |
    • Obamstein

      SDA...Here is your cllue :
      However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
      If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)
      The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given." (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)

      November 29, 2012 at 8:58 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @SDA.and.Proud

      Lets start with Leviticus 25

      39 “‘If any of your fellow Israelites become poor and sell themselves to you, do not make them work as slaves.
      40 They are to be treated as hired workers or temporary residents among you; they are to work for you until the Year of Jubilee.
      41 Then they and their children are to be released, and they will go back to their own clans and to the property of their ancestors.
      42 Because the Israelites are my servants, whom I brought out of Egypt, they must not be sold as slaves.
      43 Do not rule over them ruthlessly, but fear your God.

      44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves.
      45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.
      46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

      November 29, 2012 at 9:01 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @SDA

      Quick question, if someone points to those verses that says it's ok to have more than one wife or to own slaves, will you leave the thread like you've been doing?

      November 29, 2012 at 9:02 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @SDA.and.Proud

      And of course Exodus 21:

      20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result,
      21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.

      November 29, 2012 at 9:07 pm |
    • SDA.and.Proud

      ok i see where your coming from, but those txts dont support slavery, in fact they dont even say slaves in my version, it says servant, in your first two quotes God is talking about indentured servants, they will be servants for 6 years and on the 7th they will be free. Slaves are the type of servant someone keeps for life and can kill if they wanted too. same thing happened when usa was just a colony and the poor people in England would ship over and work for years to pay their passage and then they would be free, granted they werent working for their passage but theyr obviously not slaves, people kept as prize from war back then werent given the luxury these people were given. and for your final txt that isn't even talking about slaves, you should read that whole section instead of just a few verses, it talks about a rich ruler who had servants and one of them didnt do what they were supposed to and therefore was punished. that was just parable bro, it wasnt a commandment for you to beat the crap out of your servant when they misbehaved, and you still havent given me a txt about the polygamy. but your probably gonna tell me about salomon or jacob. right?

      November 29, 2012 at 9:08 pm |
    • SDA.and.Proud

      @ obamstein^^^ by the way

      November 29, 2012 at 9:09 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @SDA.and.Proud,

      I'll let you do your own reading for polygamy. How many wives did Abraham have?

      November 29, 2012 at 9:11 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @SDA

      Look closely. The 6 year thing was only for male Israelites. And that could be circumvented by getting them married to one of your other slaves, then he would need to stay since the wife is not released.
      Nice job of zeroing in on a single word and ignoring the part where slaves are considered property.

      November 29, 2012 at 9:12 pm |
    • SDA.and.Proud

      One... good job bro, way to help my cause out

      November 29, 2012 at 9:13 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @SDA.and.Proud

      even this one from Exodus 20

      “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.”

      This refers to posessions. The house, wife, servants and animals are possessions, good and chattels. In this context the servants are owned like slaves, not indentured workers.

      November 29, 2012 at 9:16 pm |
    • SDA.and.Proud

      just wondering, did you guys even know Jesus even said one time that there wont even be marriage in heaven? how would the Bible promote polygamy when the main goal of christianity is to go to Heaven and there wont even be marriage?

      November 29, 2012 at 9:17 pm |
    • SDA.and.Proud

      they would still be free after a certain amount of time. cant make that a slave, indentured servant.

      November 29, 2012 at 9:18 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @SDA

      Failure on your part.

      Genesis 16: 1-3

      Now Sarai, Abram’s wife, had borne him no children. But she had an Egyptian slave named Hagar; 2 so she said to Abram, “The Lord has kept me from having children. Go, sleep with my slave; perhaps I can build a family through her.”

      Abram agreed to what Sarai said. 3 So after Abram had been living in Canaan ten years, Sarai his wife took her Egyptian slave Hagar and gave her to her husband to be his wife.

      Genesis 25: 1
      Abraham had taken another wife, whose name was Keturah. 2 She bore him Zimran, Jokshan, Medan, Midian, Ishbak and Shuah.

      By my count that's three.

      November 29, 2012 at 9:19 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @SDA,and.Proud

      Genesis 16 (NIV)

      1 Now Sarai, Abram’s wife, had borne him no children. But she had an Egyptian slave named Hagar;
      2 so she said to Abram, “The Lord has kept me from having children. Go, sleep with my slave; perhaps I can build a family through her.” Abram agreed to what Sarai said.
      3 So after Abram had been living in Canaan ten years, Sarai his wife took her Egyptian slave Hagar and gave her to her husband to be his wife.
      4 He slept with Hagar, and she conceived.

      November 29, 2012 at 9:20 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @hg,

      you beat me to it! Plus another one for good measure!

      November 29, 2012 at 9:21 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @SDA.and.Proud

      Leviticus 25 (NIV)

      "44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves."

      You don't BUY indentured servants. This is God's permission to the Israelites to BUY slaves.

      November 29, 2012 at 9:23 pm |
    • SDA.and.Proud

      @ hawii its true, Abram did screw up and made the wrong decision and had a son with hagar, God didnt like that and never did He approve of that, That is why Israel and was always at war with Ishmael. Now for your other text, that is invalid to your argument, if you read in Chapter 23 youll find out that sarah died, Abraham was completely single when married again in chapter 25

      November 29, 2012 at 9:25 pm |
    • SDA.and.Proud

      @ goper and yet again, after a certain amount of time they were allowed to be free and debt free. Slaves are for life, servants are not,

      November 29, 2012 at 9:27 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @SDA.and.Proud,

      perhaps you like KJV better:

      44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
      45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.

      They shall be your possession.

      Sounds like slaves to me, not temporary workers.

      November 29, 2012 at 9:31 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @SDA

      Was Hagar dead as well? She was his wife as well.

      Read Genesis 17. Doesn't seem so mad about Hagar and Ishmael then, especially when later in Genesis 16 an angel comes to Hagar and tells her god will bless her son (which is confirmed as a seperate covenant in 17).

      November 29, 2012 at 9:32 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @SDA.and.Proud

      Leviticus 25 (NIV)

      44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves.
      45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.
      46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly

      How does "slaves for LIFE" sound? Not 6 or 7 years.

      November 29, 2012 at 9:34 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @SDA

      Are you really so obtuse that you'll cherry pick when everyone can see you're doing it?

      Leviticus 25: 29-43 talks about how Israelite males should only be temporary workers, and makes a clear distinction in 44 about non-Israelites being available to be bought as slaves.
      Are you getting dizzy from the spin yet?

      November 29, 2012 at 9:37 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      Corrections:
      Leviticus 25:39-43

      Are you getting tired of your spin yet?

      November 29, 2012 at 9:38 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      Genesis 4 (NIV)

      19 Lamech married two women, one named Adah and the other Zillah.

      November 29, 2012 at 9:39 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @hg,

      I don't know about you, but I'm tired of the spin here. The denial here is excruciating. There is simply no other way to interpret the way the bible condones slavery and demonstrates polygamy.

      It's why there were people who believed that think polygamy and slavery had a biblcal precedent.

      I'm done for tonight.

      November 29, 2012 at 9:47 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      I think SDA ran away to try and preserve his little bubble view of the bible already anyway. Actually, he lasted longer than I thought.

      November 29, 2012 at 9:50 pm |
  14. Obamstein

    Well....He is sitting next to a nice piece of a$$ and there can't be more filth than that. She has not left much to the imagination. The kid is screwed up and Blame Charlie for that ....may he need to do some of what Charlie Sheen went thru so he could come to reality.

    November 29, 2012 at 8:40 pm |
    • GAW

      Shall we call that Winning?

      November 29, 2012 at 8:45 pm |
    • Obamstein

      LOL @ GAW. you got it... actually leave him for a week with that Chick and I gurantee you he will find god...now you will have to figure out what kind of god that woould be :-)

      November 29, 2012 at 8:48 pm |
    • GAW

      And he might have the gift of tongues if you catch my drift.

      November 29, 2012 at 8:50 pm |
    • Obamstein

      Let's pray to the father that he will be granted the gift of tounges. would that prove presnce of god?

      November 29, 2012 at 8:53 pm |
    • SDA.and.Proud

      and you call that winner? is charlie sheen a winner too? just tell me if im wrong but i bet you drink alcoholic beverages and maybe you have smoked or maybe you havent but would you call that lifestyle a win? Especially with a perverted mind like that?

      November 29, 2012 at 8:54 pm |
    • GAW

      I say Winner Winner Angus Steak dinner.

      November 29, 2012 at 8:55 pm |
    • SDA.and.Proud

      catch me when you have kidney failure and all sorts of other medical issues, we ll see if you still think thats a win

      November 29, 2012 at 8:57 pm |
    • Obamstein

      SDA is jealous becaue he will never have such nice peice of A$$

      November 29, 2012 at 9:04 pm |
    • Akira

      Is that Miley Cyrus?

      November 29, 2012 at 9:08 pm |
  15. Baloney

    This article is giving waayyyyyy too much deep thought to this kid's statements. I seriously doubt he's thinking about things so deeply. I think it's more like, "I sure like the money and fame, but I hate myself for it. Another check please!"

    November 29, 2012 at 8:37 pm |
    • Matt

      as seriously as i take this topic, this comment i found true and hilarious:)

      November 29, 2012 at 8:45 pm |
  16. Nietodarwin

    THANK YOU MATT If you are "of faith" you are at least a wise one. I don't hate "god" I just don't even believe "it " exists, I never really did even when I was 5 or 6 and being dragged to church, I just went through the motions. I don't hate "believers", ( I do kind of pity them intellectually speaking) but I DO hate the preaching and dragging of children to church, and having bible quotes thrown around in such a pompous (and stupid) way. This is why you will see ME THE ATHEIST throwing around all these bible quote BACK AT YOU BELIEVERS. (You can check them out , chapter and verse, they are accurate, and it IS a VERY SCARY OLD BOOK.) Try to teach this concept to your xtian brethren. You are he most logical "believer " I've seen on here yet.

    November 29, 2012 at 8:36 pm |
    • Matt

      I can understand and respect that:) i'm glad we see where are differences are. i hate that people "preach" faith but don't practice it as well. I believe in many of the christian beliefs, but i don't take the bible at it's word, and the people of faith who do make believing in religion look foolish, it makes me sad

      November 29, 2012 at 8:42 pm |
    • SDA.and.Proud

      not all people are like that and if you cant take the Bible at it's word there really is no point to a christian life... i do respect you because you seem pretty down to earth and have shown more maturity than most atheist and Bible "scholars" here

      November 29, 2012 at 8:49 pm |
    • Matt

      SDA, thank you:) i don't mean to sound offensive, because you sound like you have faith, and that means alot. I just can't subscribe to strict rules of conduct that don't adapt to the current world....it goes against nature (evolution, yes everyone, they can co-exist). But Christian values have saved my life and character, and so i won't give up preaching.

      November 29, 2012 at 8:55 pm |
    • Obamstein

      SDA just declared that Bible is false...
      Check Polygomy in Mathew and Luke

      November 29, 2012 at 9:02 pm |
    • SDA.and.Proud

      WHERE ARE YOU GETTING YOUR SOURCES! hahaha your just about doing the same thing as some saying that humpty dumpty believes everyone should die by quoting that book

      November 29, 2012 at 9:10 pm |
    • SDA.and.Proud

      @ matt just clarification you said evolution can coexist with the Bible?

      November 29, 2012 at 9:12 pm |
  17. Eric

    He'll probably end up one of those washed up, drugged up, boozed up ex child actors. Give him 3 years. I bet you $50.

    November 29, 2012 at 8:30 pm |
  18. Eric

    THAT'S WHAT'S CALLED...."BITING THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU". AND ISN'T SURPRISING CONSIDERING HE'S A RICH BRAT WHO'S PROBABLY GOTTEN HIS WAY FOR YEARS NOW. IT'S EASY TO, ALL OF A SUDDEN DEVELOP A SPIRITUAL AWARENESS AND SPEAK OUT AND NOT CARE ABOUT FALL OUT WHEN YOU'RE A MULTI MILLIONAIRE.

    November 29, 2012 at 8:28 pm |
    • Caps Police

      There's something wrong with your keyboard.

      November 29, 2012 at 8:34 pm |
  19. sybaris

    No, what we have "learned" through experience with religion and the worship of a god and a good measure of critical thinking is that it's all bunk.

    If you had been born and raised in central america some 1000 years ago you'd be worshiping quezoacotl.

    Your faith and the god you worship is nothing more than chance.

    grow up, stop believing in fairy tales

    November 29, 2012 at 8:27 pm |
    • Matt

      is that what you've learned through "your" experience of religion and worship and "your" critical thinking. Cause mine have lead me to an opposite conclusion than yours, though i respect that you believe what you do. This is a very subjective topic....because people had a different faith a 1000 years ago doesn't mean god or a spiritual afterlife or any other thing people believe in isn't real. A 1000 years ago faith existed...Your right, your faith and your god are usually determined by your cultural domestication, but one way or the other, the idea of faith seems to persist....must be because billions of people have been duped for thousands of years hahahahaha.......

      November 29, 2012 at 8:37 pm |
    • Nietodarwin

      I was going to bring up the old half snake half bird myself. Here's a good quote for what (we're) saying but you beat me to.

      It is a telling fact that, the world over, the vast majority of children follow the religion of their parents rather than any of the other available religions.
      Richard Dawkins

      November 29, 2012 at 8:40 pm |
    • SUe

      Just because he thinks the show is filth does not mean he wants to pay the CEO s of so called worthy charities their million dollar salaries. Morally he is way ahead of the rich kid brats cashing in as CEO s robbing the needy of the money donated by the hard working middle class.

      November 29, 2012 at 8:43 pm |
  20. PunkRock

    If it is that bad he should donate all the money that he is making form this evil work to a useful charity.
    Do something about your situation, jack a

    November 29, 2012 at 8:26 pm |
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