By Ashley Killough, CNN
(CNN)– Republican Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida attempted to clear up Wednesday his controversial answer to a question about the earth's age last month.
"Science says (the earth) is about 4.5 billion years old. My faith teaches that's not inconsistent," Rubio said at a Politico Playbook Breakfast in Washington. "God created the heavens and the earth, and science has given us insight into when he did it and how he did it."
"The more science learns," he continued, "the more I am convinced that God is real."
Sen. Marco Rubio's religious journey: Catholic to Mormon to Catholic to Baptist and Catholic
Rubio was asked how old the planet was in an interview with GQ magazine published November 19. The senator, who's considered to be weighing a 2016 presidential bid, replied saying the Earth's age is "one of the great mysteries."
Emphasizing he "was not a scientist," Rubio said "whether the Earth was created in seven days, or seven actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that."
Prayers change thing.
Oh, so now it's only "thing" prayer changes? Not "things"?
Do you mean to say "Thing," the character on the Addams family?
I doubt prayer had anything to do with "Thing" and it if it did, it certainly didn't change it.
Ask all the religious Republicans after the last election.
NOthing can change this Rubbio until he pulls his head out of Pat Robertson' :-)
Prayers can't change Rubbio ;-(
Shopping around for god eh Rubbio ? Catholic to Mormon to Catholic to Baptist and Catholic
Hey Rubbio , pull ur freekin' head out of your freekin' behind again please !!!!
Psalms 90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight [are but] as yesterday when it is past, and [as] a watch in the night.
2Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
The history tree of multifaceted cosmological expansionism within variable celestial symmetries of cosmos universalisms comes from the abundant terrestrial complacencies of planetary regularities and varying solarized objectivism wherever the abundance of inner cosmologies, the atomic wonderlands, coalesces to form stars, planets and moons among many other fragmented structures within the spatial confines of a universally formed, celestially regulated Cosmos beyond all mankind’s abilities to rightly know the factual conditionings of sound human understandings.
Enjoy your babble since it's likely that no one else does.
Forget about the Gelgameks?!!!!
lionylamb... the more science understands, the more the bible has to become ambiguous...
Observer, how can one enjoy something they can't even understand?
What may I ask you, "Does not cosmological similarities of the inner and the outer make a sense worthy of one confronting such a view?" Like I posed below, "How many universes are their in but one Cosmos?" and also, "If X equates the numerical value of universes within Y being but one Cosmos just how many singular Cosmos are there in the cosmologic equilibrium of Z the unknowable?"
The courtroom stands adjourned,,,,
"Your biggest sin is a complete lack of humility in the face of your own painfully obvious ignorance."
Posted because I just wanted to revel in this absolutely accurate assessment of Chard and see it in print again!
Thank you. I raise my wine glass to you.
Not to worry Tom Tom as we are taught to hate the sin but love the sinner.
Athy, I toast you right back.
Fred, I don't care what you love. Get bent.
"Not to worry Tom Tom as we are taught to hate the sin but love the sinner."
Fred, when you discriminate against a group of people because of what the bible says is a sin, you are no longer only hating the "sin", but hating AND condemning the "sinner"
Nice statement if only true. Doesn't your bible say judge not others, so butt out on what others do that you may call sin but are legal according to the law of the land. You don't get it though and never will, you sad troll.
How many stars are in the universe?
I only see the stars in your eyes, Robert.
Like most questions like that: We don't know. We also don't know why the singularity expanded, seemingly starting a timeline for this universe, and lots of other things.
I'd say there are at least a trillion stars in the universe. Possibly even as many as a hundred. What kind of bullshit question is that? Why does it matter? We don't even know the limit of the universe. Why not ask how many fairies can dance on the head of a pin?
Here's another question to ponder, "How many universes are their in but one Cosmos?"
Another poignant pun to ponder, "If X equates the numerical value of universes within Y being but one Cosmos just how many singular Cosmos are there in the cosmologic equilibrium of Z the unknowable?"
I appreciate the responses. We don’t know how many. We can estimate. We think we have discovered the edge of the universe but I wouldn’t be surprised if we haven’t. Or, as the lion put it, this may not be the only one. It seems to me that for every discovery made or question answered more arise. The quest for knowledge and answers are good things in the proper context. As Solomon discovered as he tried everything under the sun without God, you may come to the point where you realize it is all vanity and vexation of spirit.
What a roundabout way of pidgeonholing your god uselessly.
We have ZERO CLUE as to the size of the universe because of the light horizon, so we can't know. Your question gets us nowhere.
@ Robert Brown,
Kind sire, I am a 57 nearing 8 elder man who stares unendingly upon the mysteries of cosmological orders. In my mind I can see cosmology's depths and its outermost reaches and have deduced that both inner and the outer chasms are twined and made of sameness. For is it not written in scripture to "Seek first the kingdom of God"?
Scripture has also told me that "This world is not the kingdom of God". If this world is not God's kingdom domain then what kingdom domain is this world bounded to being? Does the fact that our world is not the Godly kingdom give one a sense of wondering as to why it isn't?
Scripture also teaches us that "The kingdom of God is inside you". How can such a truth be found as being a literal quote when in the days in which is was reported to have been said? Even in today's times we know very little about our body's inner-workings yet in my beliefs the cosmos of the atomic realms within our cloistered bodies dare does construct a place of marvelous wonders yet truly known of for being the kingdom domains of God!
I write this because in my final writ is it not so written in 1 Corinthians 3:9 stating, " For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, [ye are] God's building."? I challenge anyone to disprove my stance that the inner chasms of cosmologic atomic orders are exactly where God's kingdom domains do truly reside! God lives upon all terrestrially endowed life of all forms! All of God's family and servants and other Godly brethren live seeded deeply inside all terrestrially celestial based life unconditionally and without compromise!
@ Moby Schtick,
This "light horizon" can only be strewn by ever increasing magnifications of telescopes yet to be made. If I am correct science will someday build a telescope in outward space that will have the magnification potential of a telescope with a lens almost as big as the earth. It will be ten when the "light horizon" will show us more than just close orientations but billions upon billions of light years of galactic cloisters! Today's Hubble space telescope did take an image of once was thought there to be no more stellar systems but in a timed photo, this once blackness did reveal a myriad of galaxies! Imagine that!
I did do the do–do in the dew of the to-do. To do the dew of the doo-doo is to do the due doobeedoobeedoo. Too, due to the due dew of the the 'do, do do the voo-doo that you do to two.
It will be then when the "light horizon" not It will be ten when the "light horizon"
"It will be then when the "light horizon" not It will be ten when the "light horizon" "
And THAT has made all the difference!!
what a drooling idiot. he actually believes the world is 6k years old and is just too embarrassed to say it now. anyone who believes creationism should have a frontal lobotomy since they aren't doing any cognitive thinking anyway.
If they had a frontal lobotomy, you probably wouldn't notice any difference.
I don't know, because it's so inconsistent for those who do try to think it through I think they get pretty creative.
Personally, I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
God is a myth.
Theen ism, absurdities of Allah, deniers of truth absolute GAWD, not your GOD, imposer of Sunni Mithra ism, kung-fu panda savior ism labeled as Khristianity on humanity to justify themselves as dog's by Salafism, terrorism, Wahhabi Satan s, filthy man gods of panhandler's, ignorant of royal dark ages, king's criminals pretending to be, what they have never been, nobles. spit on them for their filthy blood contaminated with Dracula, filthy leaches blood of suckers of humanity and preachers of Is Lamb ism, racism, skunk ism, goon ism, exploitation ism, wall street ism, spit on my face, I am ashamed to be a muslim, spit on my face, I am ashamed to be a human garbage.
How did you escape from Jurassic Park?
Those isms will get you trouble every time.
great articel i love CNN
Now that Sen. Rubio has settled the age of the earth for us all, perhaps (as a former Mormon Catholic who attends a Southern Baptist megachurch) he can tell us how people get to heaven?
Sacrament of reconciliation, born again salvation, the elect, the rapture, a temple recommend and his own planet to populate as a God?
It's all so confusing. I wonder what he *actually* believes.
This guy looks like he wants to live with one foot on the dock and one foot on the boat to try to appease voters. He already fell in the drink over something as simple as the age of the earth.
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." – Winston Churchill
Let me clarify: I am a total idiot.
No argument from me!
the time is coming when people – those elected to any legislative or administrative office of our government – in particular – will not be able to throw up the personal faith card.
delusional thinking is delusional thinking.
those who scoff at science have no business attempting to serve our interests at any level of government.
God created the heavens and the earth, and planets,,,,,,,,,,,,what made him do all other places non livable??
Only a very small percentage of the Earth itself is habitable without specialized equpment. The universe was not "fine tuned" for life in any way, shape, or form.
What makes you think all other places are non-livable. With over 200 billion stars in our galaxy, and over 400 billion galaxies, the odds are that life exists, has existed, or will exist in many of them. It is only a matter of time til we prove it. It is Very likely that life has or does exist on other planets or moons within our own solar system.
Most of the universe is uninhabitable. Is that concept a little too complex for you, Money?
Not at all. As you say...MOST.
Which means some is inhabitable. Most of the surface of the earth is inhabitable. We are finding life in every nook and cranny. In areas that are inhospitable to some life, we find other forms of life. To Think that this is the only place it has ever happened is just ridiculous.
I say God created nothing more than rock garden.
The fact that most of the universe is uninhabitable supports Honey Bear's thesis.
Sorry, Honey Badger, not Bear. At least they're both animals, eh?
It will be cool to see what religions we come up with if we meet another intelligent species. If they are significantly different, which they are likely to be, it will stretch the human powers of creativity.
If we ever meet an extraterrestrial religious species it will cause a cataclysmic (but certainly beneficial) change to our religions. Those of us unfettered by such archaic mythology will accept it far better than the bible babblers, who will suffer significant damage to their belief systems.
God's track record vs mans track record. I go with God! He's way more consistent of his predictions.
one in the same...man still wins :-)
Exactly, god – 0; scientists, every piece of technology that we use today.
Yes, if a man slaughters people, we judge him evil, but if God does it, he's good.
If man causes a disaster, he is held responsible and considered a menace, but if God does it, it's okay.
If a man threatens to torture people if they don't obey him, he is thrown in prison, but if God does it, that's good.
If a man stands by and does nothing while others are harmed or killed, he is a monster, but if God does nothing, he is just letting people exercise their free will.
Yes, god is just so much better.
there is a long list of failed biblical predictions/prophecies....
how many of them will it take to prove to you the complete lack of divinity inherent in your religion?
Can you please tell us 1 non-self confirmed prediction god made that came true? I.e., the bible predicts the bible confirms is not a legitimate source.
Also, biologists, doctors, engineers, physicist, authors, etc., continue to predict things on a daily basis for hundreds of years with astounding accuracy and results. To name a few of the big predictors, Newton, Einstein, H.G. Wells, Arthur C Clarke, Darwin, and recently Higgs... The list is really too long to fit several pages of this forum. What are god's most recent predictions and how have they benefited man?
Actually, the Oracle of Delphi had an outstanding record of prediction accuracy, which by your logic makes Zeus the true god.
Actually, the Oracle of Delphi was for Apollo, not Zeus. So that would mean that Apollo is the true god. Hey, the sun is a real thing, and so its god must be real too, right? :)
Rubio is a politician. He's going to say whatever he thinks he needs to say in order to gather enough votes for his next election. I wouldn't believe anything he has to say on the topic. Thankfully, it isn't a topic that has anything to do governing. All I need to know is that he's thrown his lot in with the 1% at the top of the economic food chain. That tells the whole tale about what he "believes".
Can the age of magma be determined?
I don't know, why don't you ask a geologist?
I am not sure, but I think what you might be hinting at is, would it be possible to measure the age of the core of the earth? The problems I see with that, 1) we have yet to even get close to the center of the earth, we don't have the instruments 2) I think the core is so fantastically hot that it would melt all man-made instruments before they could produce readings 3) since magma is always moving, changing I would as.sume it's improbable but since I don't know enough I am not qualified to say it's not possible to measure magma.
Of course not. Magma is too hot to test. Once cooled you can determine its age with great accuracy.
Yea if I remember my high school science correctly, there's constant convection of molten rock below the crust, so if it were possible, you theoretically could get highly different readings within a few feet.
Please note I am speculating wildly right now lol.
I searched the internet for the answer with no luck, but I have seen some pretty sharp scientist comment on here so I thought I would give it a shot. The reason I was wondering is that we base a lot of dating on the age of rocks, even volcanic ones, but the age is always determined from the time it became solid.
Once it cools you can tell how old it was before it cooled?
Yes using Rubidium-strontium dating. Rubidium (87) decays to Strontium (87) with a half life of 48.8 billion years. Using a variety of methods the age can be determined quite accurately.
The amount of heat does not necessarily change the basic formation of an element until you get to the levels that stars can generate, so you can determine when a star created an element, but there is no power on earth (naturally occurring) that can change the rate of decay of radio-active isotopes.
All rocks are only 6000 years old, just as God made them.
Some of the rock the "Rolling Stones" created is only 50 years old. I've run rings around you logically.
@Money is god
Thanks for the information.
What can that possibly have to do with theology?
The geology labs in Hawaii is one of the best places to learn about these things with the best volcanic labs right there. You live right where the rubber meets the road so to speak.
when you can't even succeed at being a troll,
you REALLY know you're a pathetic moron........................
Geology was never really something that interested me too much. I was more into biology and chemistry.
The rubidium-strontium is one of the things I read when I searched prior to asking here. I understood that the method allowed you determine the age of the rock. In other words, its age after it had cooled. It doesn’t allow determination of the age of the material that was melted to form the magma. Anyway, I could have read it wrong and thanks for your reply.
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