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December 17th, 2012
03:02 PM ET

My Take: Praying for questions about Newtown that go beyond ‘Why, God?’

Editor’s note: Margaret Feinberg is a popular speaker and author of numerous books, including “Wonderstruck: Awaken to the Nearness of God,” which releases on Christmas Day. Follow her on Twitter @mafeinberg.

By Margaret Feinberg, Special to CNN

Why, God, why? Why do you allow the horror of the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School?

Why do you allow the loss, pain, terror, heartache and death? Why do you allow evil to triumph and innocence to be stripped away? Is this kind of evil stoppable? And do we have some role to play?

In the wake of so many unanswered questions, what kinds of questions do we really need to be asking? Are you cajoling us to ask how we can prevent this from happening again? Is the answer found in gun regulations, better security or deeper changes in our own hearts and lives?

Does preventing these kinds of crimes actually begin with us? If we had more compassion on those on the margins - those who wrestle with the demons of mental illness and social exile, who may be pondering violent acts at this very moment - can we prevent this horror from happening again?

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Are you prompting us to search our own lives and hearts to identify who we need to recognize that we’ve overlooked? In our families? Neighborhoods? Schools? Workplaces? Communities? Retirement homes?

Who are the kids and adults being shoved to the sidelines of life on whom we need to extend compassion? Where have our arms been too short, our hearts too closed to embrace?

Is this a potent reminder that our call is to be more sensitive to those who feel unloved, marginalized, shunned from our society? Are you awakening us to the fact that we all play a role in these matters?

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Have we helped create troubled souls like Arizona gunman Jared Loughner, Colorado gunman James Holmes and now Connecticut gunman Adam Lanza through our failure to extend kindness to those who need it most?

What are the words we need to learn to say not just with our mouths but our actions? Are you challenging us to express, “I love you!”;  “You matter!”; “You’re good at that!”; “We’re glad you’re here!";  “Want to join us?” or something more?

Will you grace us with the courage to extend a love we do not have on our own?

Why does it seem that before we can change, we need to encounter you? Will you give us eyes to see those who feel invisible, ears to hear their cries for help and hearts broken for victims who prey on victims?

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How can we reflect you and your love during this difficult time? Will you pour out your grace, strength and love on those who have lost so much? Will you wrap your arms around them? Will you be with them in a tangible way?

Will you give them unexplainable peace? Will you do something miraculous? Will you unleash your redemption and restoration in this situation? Will you take prayers we’ve offered this week and make them habits of our hearts?

Will you do what only you can do, and take our breaths away again? Will you astound us with the wonder of who you are in the midst of that which makes no sense? Will you draw us all closer to you and to each other through this time?

In the wake of your love, will you teach us what better questions we need to ask and how we need to respond? Will you help us, oh Lord? Will you let it be so? Amen.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Margaret Feinberg.

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soundoff (1,166 Responses)
  1. Apple Bush

    How can one argue that God has been removed from schools when:

    1. You CAN pray in school, but you can't step all over the rights of those with other faiths.
    2. There are Christian and Jewish and Muslim clubs and groups that gather in prayer.
    3. Every school sports team in America prays before games and recites the pledge of alliegence which includes God.
    4. There are Christian and Jewish and Muslim schools.

    It is all moot because there is no God but if you are believer you can have add it. No one is stopping you. This miserable human being went to a Catholic school.

    You might as well say that a grilled cheese sandwiches cause gravity.

    December 17, 2012 at 5:00 pm |
  2. Reality

    Save your money. The following prayer summarizes the situation with god.

    The Apostles' Creed 2012: (updated by yours truly and based on the studies of historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

    Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
    and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
    human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven??

    I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
    preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
    named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
    girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

    Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
    the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

    He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
    a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
    Jerusalem.

    Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
    many semi-fiction writers. A descent into Hell, a bodily resurrection
    and ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
    Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
    grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
    and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
    called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

    Amen
    (references used are available upon request)

    December 17, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
    • PON

      Haha, thanks for the entertainment, this is hilarious, I am quite sure I have never read anything more moronic!

      December 17, 2012 at 8:49 pm |
    • Reality

      AND THE INFAMOUS ANGELIC CONS CONTINUE TO WREAK STUPIDITY UPON THE WORLD

      Joe Smith had his Moroni. (As does M. Romney)

      "Latter-day Saints like M. Romney also believe that Michael the Archangel was Adam (the first man) when he was mortal, and Gabriel lived on the earth as Noah."

      Jehovah Witnesses have their Jesus /Michael the archangel, the first angelic being created by God;

      Mohammed had his Gabriel (this "tin-kerbell" got around).

      Jesus and his family had/has Michael, Gabriel, and Satan, the latter being a modern day demon of the demented. (As does BO and his family)(As do Biden and Ryan)

      The Abraham-Moses myths had their Angel of Death and other "no-namers" to do their dirty work or other assorted duties.

      Contemporary biblical and religious scholars have relegated these "pretty wingie/horn-blowing thingies" to the myth pile. We should do the same to include deleting all references to them in our religious operating manuals. Doing this will eliminate the prophet/profit/prophecy status of these founders and put them where they belong as simple humans just like the rest of us.

      Some added references to "tink-erbells".

      newadvent.org/cathen/07049c.htm

      "The belief in guardian angels can be traced throughout all antiquity; pagans, like Menander and Plutarch (cf. Euseb., "Praep. Evang.", xii), and Neo-Platonists, like Plotinus, held it. It was also the belief of the Babylonians and As-syrians, as their monuments testify, for a figure of a guardian angel now in the British Museum once decorated an As-syrian palace, and might well serve for a modern representation; while Nabopolassar, father of Nebuchadnezzar the Great, says: "He (Marduk) sent a tutelary deity (cherub) of grace to go at my side; in everything that I did, he made my work to succeed."
      Catholic monks and Dark Age theologians also did their share of hallu-cinating:

      "TUBUAS-A member of the group of angels who were removed from the ranks of officially recognized celestial hierarchy in 745 by a council in Rome under Pope Zachary. He was joined by Uriel, Adimus, Sabaoth, Simiel, and Raguel."

      And tin-ker- bells go way, way back:

      "In Zoroastrianism there are different angel like creatures. For example each person has a guardian angel called Fravashi. They patronize human being and other creatures and also manifest god’s energy. Also, the Amesha Spentas have often been regarded as angels, but they don't convey messages, but are rather emanations of Ahura Mazda ("Wise Lord", God); they appear in an abstract fashion in the religious thought of Zarathustra and then later (during the Achaemenid period of Zoroastrianism) became personalized, associated with an aspect of the divine creation (fire, plants, water...)."

      "The beginnings of the biblical belief in angels must be sought in very early folklore. The gods of the Hitti-tes and Canaanites had their supernatural messengers, and parallels to the Old Testament stories of angels are found in Near Eastern literature. "

      "The 'Magic Papyri' contain many spells to secure just such help and protection of angels. From magic traditions arose the concept of the guardian angel. "

      For added information see the review at:

      December 17, 2012 at 11:55 pm |
  3. Sam M

    We've been murdering each other since Cain & Able (according to your myth book) and will continue to do so until the End Times (also according to your myth book). So its all as God planned. No amount of prayer and obedience to the man in the sky will save us. Get over it.

    December 17, 2012 at 4:58 pm |
    • Randy

      I agree. You can't make good people do evil things without religion.

      December 17, 2012 at 5:02 pm |
  4. mikeyd57

    ProffessorEugene, you are an idiot! All that mumbo jumbo crap you just spouted is not worth the life of one of those innocent children. An if the god you worship allows this to happen then he is a worthless god to worship. If he can't stop it from happening then he is not much of a god!

    December 17, 2012 at 4:58 pm |
  5. Concerned faithful

    I agree with Rachel Scott's father , we have a problem when we have taken God out of schools. God bless our schools.

    December 17, 2012 at 4:55 pm |
    • Randy

      Religion only divides people. On a different point, I am sorry for your loss.

      December 17, 2012 at 5:04 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      No, we have a problem when some people's response to this is to suggest that we need to start arming our elementary school teachers. Thats a sure sign of a society's failure.

      December 17, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
  6. Matthew

    Why does God allow Violence in school? Answer: God isn't allowed in school. Don't blame God when you turn your back on Him.

    December 17, 2012 at 4:54 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      1206

      December 17, 2012 at 4:55 pm |
    • Rational Libertarian

      So your omniscient and omnipotent god is afraid of the Establishment Clause? Good.

      December 17, 2012 at 4:57 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Rational Libertarian

      LOL nice.

      December 17, 2012 at 4:58 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      so all these kids and their families were atheists huh? not a believer amongst the lot of them?

      December 17, 2012 at 5:18 pm |
    • UncleBenny

      What utter tripe.

      December 17, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
    • Kyle Dasan

      So...using that logic, God allows first graders to be gunned down because he's not allowed in public schools? You're a member of the Westboro Baptist Church aren't you? They spew the same type of deluded hatred, in the name of their God. Know who else did that? The same deluded wackjobs that flew the planes into the Twin Towers.

      Stop thinking with your Bible and start thinking with your Brain!

      December 17, 2012 at 6:11 pm |
    • I don't THINK so

      God isn't allowed in school? Not even with a pass from the hall monitor? What a shame.

      December 18, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      And that is why there are so many school massacres in Ja/pan where the majority of the population are secular humanists.
      Wait a minute...

      December 18, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
  7. Laurie

    Basically the West has told God that we do not need God and we will not serve or obey the commandments of God. So evil moves in the place where God has vacated. It is a clear as can be.

    December 17, 2012 at 4:51 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      Sure ok.

      December 17, 2012 at 4:54 pm |
    • Akira

      Sooooooo.....Gos is so displeased that he saw fit to mow down 20 6 and 7 year olds?
      Sorry, dear, you're full of it... that is what is plain to me.

      December 17, 2012 at 4:56 pm |
    • Sam M

      We've been murdering each other since Cain & Able (according to your myth book) and will continue to do so until the End Times (also according to your myth book). So its all as God planned. No amount of prayer and obedience to the man in the sky will save us. Get over it.

      December 17, 2012 at 4:58 pm |
    • obi_donkenobi

      We are all atheists. There are dozens of gods that Christians don't believe in (Zeus, Apollo, Horus, etc.) Christians just happen to be hanging onto one last one. How sad, to abandon reason and common sense over something that doesn't exist. For example: If God is omniscient, omnipotent, benevolent and perfect, why did he make it so most of the world's population will end up being tortured forever in Hell? I don't care how "mysterious" this seems to me or thee – it makes no sense, to the point that any sane person would conclude: God is an imaginary "blanky" for the weak-minded masses.

      December 17, 2012 at 5:12 pm |
    • Eric M

      If you are saying that taking prayer out of school is the cause of this, how do you explain all the recent shootings in churches? How do you explain the child molesting that goes on in churches? Your logic is flawed and pathetic. Learn to use your mind for some critical thinking, and stop trying to explain the world with "God did it"

      December 17, 2012 at 8:57 pm |
  8. My Dog is a jealous Dog

    One simple method to stop the mentally ill from getting assault weapons – if they want to buy an assault weapon, then they are mentally ill. There is no sane reason to own an assault rifle. If you are a collector, then remove/destroy the firing pin and hang the weapon on the wall – you have no reason to actually use it.

    December 17, 2012 at 4:43 pm |
    • Rational Libertarian

      Go fudge yourself. An assault rifle is perfect at close range for keeping the king of England out of your face.

      December 17, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
    • Akira

      I agree completely.
      Ban assault weapons.

      December 17, 2012 at 5:00 pm |
  9. Dyslexic doG

    why do Americans quote phrases from a bronze age story book to try and justify the slaying of 20 innocent children?

    December 17, 2012 at 4:37 pm |
    • karlito84

      Good question!

      December 17, 2012 at 5:06 pm |
    • Yep

      Because it is the same crazy people that believe it was OK for a loving god to commit mass genocide with the flood. Sent bears at Elisha's request to maul 42 kids and proceeded to destroy JOB and his life over a bet with the devil. BTW he restored Job's cattle and crops.....but he never did give him children back. Tells Noah "he is favored above the rest".....yet he was a drunk. Turns Lot's wife into salt just for looking behind and rewards Joshua for collecting foreskins from died soldiers. Not so loving of a god.

      December 17, 2012 at 6:15 pm |
  10. Dyslexic doG

    These events prove there is no God.

    If God is all powerful then he must have caused this. If he did not cause this and was unable to stop this then he can't be all powerful.

    There is no God.

    December 17, 2012 at 4:33 pm |
    • sharky

      The US took God out of the schools? Now something bad happens and your wondering why God's not there.?? Allow prayer and God back in the schools.

      December 17, 2012 at 4:54 pm |
    • karlito84

      There is no God in the schools where I come from (Canada) and there isn't anything like this going on. That's just gibberish!

      December 17, 2012 at 5:08 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      'sharky – The US took God out of the schools? Now something bad happens and your wondering why God's not there.?? Allow prayer and God back in the schools.'

      There were over 60 school shootings in the US between1900 and 1970. The worse incident was in 1927 when someone blew up a school and then set off a car bomb outside it when the survivors filed out. They killed 38, mostly kids.
      Tell me again how these incidents are because NOW we have taken god out of schools.

      December 17, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
    • yep

      Well said Cedar.

      December 17, 2012 at 6:18 pm |
  11. Robert Brown

    A full time armed police officer at every school in the country would help. Lots of high schools already have them. Based on the reports so far, I don’t think extending kindness to this guy would have helped him.

    December 17, 2012 at 4:25 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      We can have armed guards at banks but not schools? Seems like an obvious improvement.

      December 17, 2012 at 4:28 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Are you willing to pay higher taxes to pay for these improvements?

      December 17, 2012 at 5:00 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      I am Tom Tom, absolutely.

      December 17, 2012 at 5:06 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You might be, the minute the Republicans get hold of the issue, it'll be dead in the water. They squeal about an increase of a cent or two to pay for textbooks and pencils.

      And there's no reason to have armed guards at the schools. This is an isolated, rare incident. In general, schools are very safe places. There are many ways to make schools secure and safe, short of armed guards.

      December 17, 2012 at 5:52 pm |
  12. professoreugene

    Sorry about the trolls annoying you, Margaret; just ignore them; maybe they'll go away.

    The tenor of your piece is that this whole affair can be explained and/or justified by the God of love.
    May I help you with that?
    It would be a terrible injustice to say, as President Obama said last night, that 'God has called these little ones home to himself.'
    This is PATENTLY UNTRUE!
    Our Creator is weeping tears just like the human parents of those children. Why did he not stop it?
    The Bible explains, as you likely know, at 1 John 5:19, that "the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one." It is that wicked one (Satan,) who has perpetrated this massacre.
    The Devil's major purpose for doing this is to get YOU upset, stressing you out, hence, distracting youfrom the great issue that is before all mankind, namely, Whom will you serve – God or the Devil? Satan is real, whether we like it or not.
    Don't take my word for it; check the words of Jesus at John 14:30: "I shall not speak much with YOU anymore, for the ruler of the world is coming."
    When Satan tempted Jesus in the wilderness, he offered Jesus all the kingdoms of the world, in exchange for one act of worship. Did Jesus argue that those kingdoms were not Satan's to give? No. He knew that Satan was in control of the entire world, politics, politicians and all. He held sway then and still does today. So, 1 John 5:19 still stands.
    The underlying reason is that Satan challenged Jehovah, saying that he had a better way of running the world. This issue was raised publicly in heaven with millions of witnesses to the event. The Creator, rather than just simply killing Satan, elected to permit Satan to prove, once and for all, whether or not he had a better way. Otherwise the angels in heaven would be questioning why God destroyed the Devil. Maybe he really did have an imporved way or ruling humankind.
    So Satan began to rule the world, and God and all the angels stood back and watched. So Satant's time is just about up, but what terrible atrocities he has wrought upon humankind. Two world wars and countless other conflicts and intrigues that have taken literally billions of lives, including the Newtown massacre.
    [Despite clergy expressions to the contrary, the Bible does not generally credit humankind with the potential for life in heaven after their human death. That came from the ancient Greek philosophers.]
    The Bible's promise of a resurrection to a peaceful new world of God's making here on the earth is the hope that those little ones now have for the continuance of their human lives, once the earth is restored to paradise.
    Problem is, Will we be there to greet them back to human life?
    Don't miss the tremendous future that lies ahead of those of humankind who prove themselves willing to honor God rather than Satan.
    It's up to you, ma'am.

    December 17, 2012 at 4:23 pm |
    • ReigionIsBS

      Since god probably doesnt exist, that is nothing more than babbling mumbo jumbo from an adult with an imaginarey friend. If you want to help solve America's problem, put down the bible and actually DO something.

      December 17, 2012 at 4:25 pm |
    • professoreugene

      #ReigionIsBS

      "Since god probably doesnt exist, that is nothing more than babbling mumbo jumbo from an adult with an imaginarey friend. If you want to help solve America's problem, put down the bible and actually DO something."

      If I sign up to help President Obama to solve this problem, exactly what will that accomplish, since even HE has no idea how to get the guns out of the American culture. Remember Charlton Heston saying "from my dead hand!" We hear news commentators saying that "the Second Amendment makes the Newtown massacre a 'self-inflicted wound.'" When I was in the military and returned from a week-end furlough and showed up with a bad sunburn, the Duty Officer would call that sunburn "a self-inflicted injury," and I would not be allowed to beg off work because of it. This may be an incurable problem even for the POTUS, because of the political opposition to any pressure in that direction. I tend to think that the desire to eliminate the 2nd willf fade away in time, and that's likely what the gun lobby is hoping for. Any suggestions as to other action I might take?

      December 17, 2012 at 5:09 pm |
    • PON

      Awesome, well written

      December 17, 2012 at 8:50 pm |
    • Pat

      If the wicked on perpetrated this massacre and god didn't stop him, that must mean that god is weak, a coward or a sadist. Not the kind of "father" I'd want to have.

      December 18, 2012 at 11:33 am |
  13. The Herald

    I have felt in my heart for YEARS now that I was sent here to to deliver a specific message on behalf of our Lord and Savior, hence my online name "The HERald."

    I am a woman and mother as well, so I am somewhat shy about being too bold. But I feel the deep pain of the parent at Sandy Hook.

    This Friday, I saw my purpose come to fruition.

    What I want to say is this: Before Moses delivered the Israelites, the king of Egypt ordered the death of many innocent children.(Exodus 1:22)

    Before Christ came to deliver us, Herod ordered the death of many innocent children. (Matthew 2:16) I have grieved for the mothers of these children many times over the years even though they lived generations before me.

    I believe the incident in Newtown, CT this past Friday (12/14/12) is our 1st sign of the second coming of Christ.

    We should take heed and be ready as mighty servants of the Lord Jesus Christ!

    "A voice is heard in Ramah (Newtown), weeping and great mourning, Rachel is weeping for her children and refusing to be comforted, because they are no more." Matthew 2:18

    Thank you for listening. Please share.

    _______________________________________

    December 17, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      Herald, you are a sick puppy.

      December 17, 2012 at 4:10 pm |
    • ReigionIsBS

      So when jesus doesnt come back, are you going to shut up and stop scaring the children? Seriously, how many failed armageddon fantasies will it take before you wackos admit you beleive in nonsense?

      December 17, 2012 at 4:15 pm |
    • Mohammad A Dar

      sounds like cross-dressing goon

      December 17, 2012 at 4:56 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      'I believe the incident in Newtown, CT this past Friday (12/14/12) is our 1st sign of the second coming of Christ. '

      and i believe you are a nut.

      December 17, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
    • Tom

      I hope you don't have access to guns you wack job

      December 17, 2012 at 5:30 pm |
  14. Chad

    In the wake of your love, will you teach us what better questions we need to ask and how we need to respond? Will you help us, oh Lord? Will you let it be so? Amen.

    excellent prayer, never be afraid to ask why.

    December 17, 2012 at 4:00 pm |
    • Question

      @Chad, What is in the wake of your love?

      December 17, 2012 at 6:00 pm |
  15. Apple Bush

    Margaret Feinberg, Broadway called and they need their Peter Pan for a 7pm curtain.

    December 17, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
  16. roman

    Whether one believes the bible or not, Romans one, 18-32 describes the present USA. It's amazingly accurate. Pretty amazing considering that God does not exist. And fishermen are not educated.

    People have freedoms; now it's a matter of what people do with those freedoms. Yes, God gives people free will. If you don't believe in God but believe in self-determined morals, tjhen that's what you have in this situation too.

    It's an unfortunate situation. Having a Godless society is a no win situation.

    December 17, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
    • JWT

      The godless have at least as many morals as the godly.

      December 17, 2012 at 3:52 pm |
    • Komi

      Yes, China & Russia are great examples of the godless. It also makes one feel good when the person carrying four guns does not fear God. He probably has morals of his own that he made up.

      December 17, 2012 at 4:13 pm |
    • ReigionIsBS

      Komi, what about Canada and the Netherlands. Its quite nice there from what ive heard. If you want a theocracy, perhaps you should state Iran and Iqar?

      December 17, 2012 at 4:17 pm |
    • ReigionIsBS

      What a beautiful story to share roman. God isnt being worshiped enough, so he is showing his wrath by killing innocent children. Funny how these things dont happen in Canada. Why isnt god smiting them? You spewed the nonsense, now answer my question, or we all know you are a coward who is full of it.

      December 17, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
    • en-arr-ey

      Humans to God are like teens are to parents. Teens think they know everything and will do whatever they want no matter what their parents tell them. Then when the teens get into trouble or accident, they blame their parents.

      Humans are the same with God. They do whatever they want, then they blame God. God did not go thru a school shooting kids. It was a human who refused to follow God's teachings.

      December 17, 2012 at 4:27 pm |
    • ReigionIsBS

      gods are to adults what santas clauses and easter bunnies are to children. No evidence is required for them to beleive, and eveidence to the contrary goes way over their heads. Good things happen, I must be making Santa happy. Bad things happen, Santa is angry.

      December 17, 2012 at 4:30 pm |
    • professoreugene

      Roman: Exactly how do you explain the accurate, specific, on-time, fulfillment of hundred of predictions that the Bible contains? Some wag has figured out that 97% of Bible prophecy has already been filled; the remaining 3% distincly pertains to the future.
      It prophesied the rise to power of Babylon, when Babylon was just a backwater whistle stop, too the downfall of Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar, including the name of the conqueror, two hundred years before the event.
      It foretold the rise and fall of Medo-Persia, Greece, (including incredible detail about Alexander the Great, plus his premature death, amazing detail of the breakup of Alex's huge empire).
      Too, Rome (especially the census that Rome would call for that cause Joseph to take the pregnant Mary to his ancestral home, which allowed Jesus to be born in Bethlehem, rather than Nazareth).
      It forecast World Wars I and II. In addition to which, it predicts that ours would be a time period that would experience wars, famine, earthquake, and disease, to an extent such as mankind has never seen before.
      This has to be a capability beyond the power of a human, as we are to foretell with accuracy the weather for tomorrow.
      To me, that must be a demonstration by the person who makes the sun come up every morning.
      How has God done that, Roman?
      Please give a scientific response, because all the trolls will be expecting you to shoot me down, big time!.

      December 17, 2012 at 4:53 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      oh please professor, its done no such thing.
      You have interpretation of events, you have things written after the event, etc.
      It did not predict WWI or WWII.
      such nonsense,

      December 17, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
    • UncleBenny

      And how exactly do you know that the Bible predictions you refer to were written down before and not after the events in question? The Hebrew Scriptures (aka Old Testament) were not compiled and edited into their present form until the Babylonian Captivity. Care to cite chapter and verse where they predicted the rise of Greece, Alexander, the world wars? "wars, famine, earthquake, and disease, to an extent such as mankind has never seen before." Gee, like that has never happened before?

      Jesus clearly predicted that the Kingdom of God would appear within at most a generation or two after his death. Not so sharp on that one, was he?

      December 17, 2012 at 5:31 pm |
    • professoreugene

      #cedar rapids

      "oh please professor, its done no such thing.
      You have interpretation of events, you have things written after the event, etc.
      It did not predict WWI or WWII.
      such nonsense,"

      CRapids–Thank you so much.
      Now the rules of evidence say that I can only prove positive items to you. You cannot ask me to prove a negative. Right?
      You give me solid scientific evidence of events being foretold after the event has actually occurred and I'll prove to you that the Bible foretells World War I and World War II. Your move!

      December 17, 2012 at 6:32 pm |
  17. Jay

    Why? You obviously dont read your bible and have been blinded by all the religious lies about God.

    Why? Because, 1 JOHN 5:19. Thats why!

    December 17, 2012 at 3:34 pm |
    • ReigionIsBS

      The bible is garbage, Leviticus 25:44, thats why!

      December 17, 2012 at 4:21 pm |
    • Dyslexic doG

      God and Jesus are about as real as Dumbledore and Harry Potter. The only difference is a few centuries between books. Good grief! Wake up!

      December 17, 2012 at 4:35 pm |
    • professoreugene

      ReigionIsBS

      "The bible is garbage, Leviticus 25:44, thats why!"

      Eh?

      (LEVITICUS 25:44) As for your slave man and your slave girl who become yours from the nations that are round about YOU people, from them YOU may buy a slave man and a slave girl.

      If you read ALL of the Bible you will find that slaves back in ancient times were unlike those of the planatation owners of Georgia and other Southern states from the seventeenth through the nineteenth centuries. The slaves of Bible times were well-treated and often rose to positions of great responsibility in the household of their owners. They were like children to the family they were serving. In one case, Abraham was going to appoint a slave as his heir, when, at a awesome age, his wife, Sarah, became pregnant with Isaac.

      What made you pick this scripture?

      December 17, 2012 at 5:26 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      'The slaves of Bible times were well-treated and often rose to positions of great responsibility in the household of their owners. They were like children to the family they were serving.'

      oh i do love this trying to excuse slavery argument. Always rises a chuckle when they try to say they were more like children than slaves.
      No, they were slaves. Bought, sold, mistreated, sometimes killed, sometimes released, but slaves.

      December 17, 2012 at 5:31 pm |
  18. Bob

    No prayer has ever been shown conclusively to have impacted the outcome of any significant event, nor to have caused action from a divine being, ever. If you think otherwise, present your proof.

    December 17, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
    • Matthew

      Joan of Arc, the Formation of Midway, Fall of the Soviet Union (prayed for by US), Hezekiah's repulse of the Assyrians, The Saving of Constantinople from Arab seige circa 700s, Deliverance of Israelites from Egypt to the promised land, Christ, miracles of the Apostles in the 1st Century, Demonic Exorcism, etc.

      December 17, 2012 at 5:00 pm |
    • karlito84

      Mathew...there is no proof in any of that. He asked you to present some proof!!!

      December 17, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
    • professoreugene

      Bob

      "No prayer has ever been shown conclusively to have impacted the outcome of any significant event, nor to have caused action from a divine being, ever. If you think otherwise, present your proof."

      Hi Bob.
      Thanks for the post. Don't forget that God may not necessarily answer prayers, at leat in the way in which we expect, despite the fact that he is extremely interested in the matter at hand. For example, remember that God did not intervene in the death of his firstborn son, Jesus, whom he allowed to be impaled on a tree (KJV Acts 5:30).
      Jesus had prayed the previous night that he be spared from dying a death that would be tantamount to confirming that he had blasphemed God. That prayer went unanswered, except that an angel was sent to Jesus to comfort him, strengthening him for the trials and tribulations to follow the next day. Nisan 14, 33 CE, jesus was impaled. God did not intervene.

      December 17, 2012 at 5:36 pm |
  19. Al

    Why, God, why? Why do you allow the horror of the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School?

    Who knows, but it gives me a chance to plug my books.

    December 17, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
  20. Rational Humanist

    Since this mentally ill woman is clearly mumbling to herself, let's all just ignore this pathetic article and find something intelligent to read.

    December 17, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
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