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My Take: Jesus was a dirty, dirty God
January 5th, 2013
10:00 PM ET

My Take: Jesus was a dirty, dirty God

Editor’s note: Johnnie Moore is the author of Dirty God (#DirtyGod). He is a professor of religion and vice president at Liberty University. Keep track of him @johnnieM .

By Johnnie Moore, Special to CNN

(CNN) - Jesus was a lot more like you than you think, and a lot less clean cut than this iconic image of him that floats around culture.

You know the image. It’s the one where Jesus is walking like he’s floating in robes of pristine white followed by birds singing some holy little ditty. He’s polished, manicured, and clearly – God.

But despite the Christian belief that Jesus was both fully God and fully man, Jesus was a rather dirty God.

He was the “earthly” son of a carpenter, and life in the first-century was both more lurid and unfinished than our collective religious memory seems to recall.

To that end, I suggested recently to several astounded colleagues of mine that Jesus actually had to go to the bathroom, perhaps even on the side of the road between Capernaum and Jerusalem.

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What tipped them over the edge was when I insinuated that Jesus, like almost every other human being living in the rural world in that time, might have even had dysentery on an occasion or two.

Someone said, “You mean that Jesus might have had severe diarrhea?”

“Yep,” I replied, “That’s exactly what I mean.”

It seems like an obvious statement if you believe that Jesus was “fully God” and “fully man” (as most evangelicals believe and call the Incarnation), but to some of us it seems in the least, inappropriate, and at the most, sacrilege, to imagine Jesus in this way. We might believe that God was also man, but we picture him with an ever-present halo over his head.

But, actually, the Jesus of the Bible was more human than most people are conditioned to think.

I call this the dirty side of Jesus. He was grittier, and a lot more like us than maybe we believe, and that’s one of the reasons why so many thousands of people followed him so quickly.

They could relate to him.

He was the teacher from a small town who knew and understood the economic insecurity that was common in the first century. Times must have been rather tough for Jesus at points in his life, for he even spoke of being homeless, having to sleep on the ground with no roof over his head.

He also knew what it was like to have his message rejected and how it felt to be misunderstood. Jesus was regarded with such little significance in his hometown that one of his critics once remarked sardonically, “Isn’t this the carpenter’s son?” Jesus eventually had to move to different city (Capernaum) because his teachings so infuriated the people living in his hometown that they drove him out of Nazareth and even tried to throw him off a cliff.

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The real Jesus had dirt underneath his fingernails and calluses on his hands. He probably smelled badly from sweating profusely in the Judean sun on his long hikes to Jerusalem, and Jesus was, without a doubt, rumored to be a hypocrite or absolutely mad for all the time he spent with prostitutes and those afflicted with leprosy.

Not exactly have a clean-cut image.

He had a rather shady reputation.

Some people thought he was a revolutionary. The religious leaders called him a heretic, and others even accused him of being a drunkard and a glutton - in no small part because of the vagabond group of disciples he had with him. No serious religious leader of his day would have ever recruited such people.

For his core 12 disciples, Jesus included a tough-as-nails, bombastic fisherman (Peter), a chief tax collector named Matthew (the most hated popular figure of the time), an eventual traitor who was stealing money out of the offering bucket (Judas), a prolific doubter (Thomas), two jocks nicknamed the “Sons of Thunder” (James and John) and Simon the Zealot, a member of a radical political party which believed in using violence to kick out the Romans.

Jesus was sarcastic, too.

He often snapped back at the Pharisees with a tone fit for late-night television, and in a terribly embarrassing moment for all those around him, Jesus even called these respected religious teachers “snakes” that were probably sons of “Satan.”

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That’s not exactly the behavior of a sweet, self-help teacher with a halo over his head.

It’s the behavior of a frustrated man who might also be divine, but sure knows how it feels for annoying people to get under his skin.

Christians believe that Jesus chose to be born fully human, too, but why?

Lots of theologians have laid out opinions over the centuries, and in their opining they have tried once again to hijack Jesus’ humanity by defining it in philosophical terms. I believe it’s simpler than the philosophy and church councils and centuries of argument.

The brilliance of Christianity is the image of a God, named Jesus, arrived with dirty hands.

Jesus came in a time period when Greco-Roman gods were housed in gigantic temples and portrayed with superhuman powers and with superhuman physiques. Gods were believed to be far away from people on their mountains or hemmed up in their sanctuaries.

Jesus arrived in defiance of this prevailing imagery.

Jesus didn’t come flinging lightning bolts from a mountaintop, or playing politics in Rome. He came to live in a typical Middle Eastern village called Nazareth that was home to a couple hundred typical people. He didn’t decide to brandish his power, but to spend most of his time with the powerless and disenfranchised. And when he started a religious movement that reshaped history, he did it in the most profound and anticlimatic way:

He let himself be killed, and then he busted open a tomb.

In Jesus we meet a Savior who understood the desire to sleep just a few more hours, and who had to control his temper sometimes. In Jesus we find a God we can relate to because he chose to relate to us.

He was the God who became dirty so that the world’s souls might be made clean.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Johnnie Moore.

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soundoff (7,741 Responses)
  1. Harry Lo

    No matter what He said or what He had done, it did not affected His salvation plan!

    January 6, 2013 at 10:24 pm |
  2. God

    This is just another clever way of proselytizing. Sales pitch to those not swayed or impressed by traditional organized Christian religion. Same old wine, new bottle, newer package and less expensive. Turns out cheap, though.

    January 6, 2013 at 10:24 pm |
  3. lionlylamb

    The 'mysteries of nature' within the biological realms of all cellular cosmologies cannot be conquered by science. Only thru the observations of the cellular chasms of atomized cosmologies can science reap of God's kingdom domains which are of the body within any and all cellular life forms and formations.,,

    Luke 17:21, "The kingdom of God is inside you!"

    1Corinthians 3:9 "For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, [ye are] God's building!"

    January 6, 2013 at 10:22 pm |
    • psych ward staff

      Uh oh – someone threw up their word salad again. Clean up on page 61, pronto!

      January 6, 2013 at 10:23 pm |
    • sqeptiq

      Insane is as insane does.

      January 6, 2013 at 10:43 pm |
  4. YouMayDisagree

    I'm sure that finding out that there are no Gods living on Olympus, came as a huge shock to some people.

    January 6, 2013 at 10:16 pm |
  5. hee hee

    Wait, sorry EndReligion, just read your post to me. He's serious? I sensed a psychotic disorder, but second-guessed myself.
    Poor guy.

    January 6, 2013 at 10:16 pm |
  6. Jodi

    As a catholic raised woman and current atheist, I can appreciate the overall idea. Definitely makes the notion of 'Jesus' much more believable.

    January 6, 2013 at 10:14 pm |
  7. Reality

    Only for the new members of this blog:

    Based on the topic, some updating:

    Jesus was an illiterate, dirty, sometimes sick, Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations (or “mythicizing” from the dirty, sometimes sick P, M, M, L and J) and who has been characterized anywhere from the dirty Messiah from muddy Nazareth to a mythical clean character from mythical clean Nazareth to a dirty ma-mzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). An-alyses of Jesus’ unclean life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Ludemann, Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, ) via the NT and related doc-uments have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various dirty, sometimes sick, Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.
    ==========================================================================================
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=======

    January 6, 2013 at 10:12 pm |
  8. jmskeptic

    LOL. Thank you. The critics should go (re)read their bible instead of listening to religious snake oil salesmen. IT IS IN THE BIBLE FOOLS. LOL

    January 6, 2013 at 10:06 pm |
  9. paul teague

    Oh, come on...everybody knows Jesus had blue eyes, long blond flowing hair, and a look of perfect peace on his face. He dropped the most wicked people to their knees with his look...because that's what they showed in Ben Hur.

    January 6, 2013 at 10:05 pm |
    • there is no other truth but truth absolute, and truth absolute is LORD AND GOD OF THE WORLD.

      You missed his hind, tail.

      January 6, 2013 at 10:07 pm |
  10. Reda

    Jesus (peace be upon him), was a great man, his name was mentioned many times in the holy Quran, these days if you want to be rich and famous just write a book or make a movies about prophets of God, like this author Johnnie Moore, I don't blame here the author, but instead I blame the readers who buy his Dirty Book.

    January 6, 2013 at 10:03 pm |
    • Hairy Johnson

      Jesus Christ is not a "prophet". Jesus Christ is LORD & Savior <3

      January 6, 2013 at 10:06 pm |
    • there is no other truth but truth absolute, and truth absolute is LORD AND GOD OF THE WORLD.

      Ya, a Mithra, savior of the hindu's, ignorant's.

      January 6, 2013 at 10:09 pm |
    • hal 9001

      I'm sorry, "Hairy Johnson", but "Christ", "LORD" and "Savior" are all elements of mythology, therefore all of your assertions to date have been unfounded. Using my Idiomatic Expression Equivalency module (IEE), the expression that best matches the degree to which your assertions may represent truths is: "CHRONIC TOTAL FAIL".

      January 6, 2013 at 10:22 pm |
    • Hairy Johnson

      hal, keep rejecting the truth all you want. You WILL stand before the one true living God Jesus Christ sooner of later. Time is ticking. Jesus loves you. Interesting how many automatically hate and/or reject the Lord Jesus Christ without seeking him with all their heart in prayer and reading his Word –the Holy Bible. Time is short. Today is the day of salvation. Jesus Christ is Lord!

      January 6, 2013 at 10:31 pm |
    • Apatheist

      Jesus, if he actually existed, was a horribly amoral being. Don't forget, he was the first to mention 'Hell'... Infinite suffering for finite 'crimes' (thought 'crimes' included).

      January 6, 2013 at 10:34 pm |
    • Ahaha

      @Hal, Your Idiomatic Expression Equivalency module (IEE) is full of bugs and is best delegated back to its original intended purpose, which is to provide embedded logic for the operation of that apparatus that gives you a blow j0 b, day in day out.

      Isn't that one of the joys of being an atheist? that by choosing not to believe in a god you don't have to adhere to any set of morals save those that suits your wish?

      January 6, 2013 at 10:35 pm |
    • Apatheist

      @Ahaha Believing in a god is not a "choice".... I do not believe in god/gods. If I say that I do, that doesn't really change anything, does it?

      January 6, 2013 at 10:39 pm |
    • sqeptiq

      Yes ahaha, being an atheist does mean you don't have to adhere to any set of morals you find disagreeable...such as burning women who appear a bit odd because the church tells you they are evil witches (you get to help then escape torture and death) and you don't have to believe that the earth is the center of the universe because your church tells you it is immoral to believe otherwise (you get to use science and find the truth). The hierarchical dictated morals that come from religion are far inferior to the morals that come from rational humanism. And as a rational humanist, you don't have to worry about burning in eternal torment for something you didn't even know was a crime.

      January 6, 2013 at 10:52 pm |
    • AndYouCallYourselfAProfOfReligion

      @Apatheist
      Not sure who you're talking about being an amoral (that is, without moral standards or principles) you mean Jesus?? or do you mean the other guy (Satan)?

      It is stated in the Bible (Romans) that God is both a God of justice, and a God of love. When you break a law, there has to be a corresponding punishment to it (similar to what we have today in order to have a civilized society). But God is also a God of love, which is why he sent Christ to come down and die for us as atonement for our sins.

      Jesus' coming into the world has been prophesied by separate ancient manuscripts from the old testament found from different prophets who lived in different places, and time frames throughout history.

      I went to a huge christian church (Northpoint Church) that has 10,000+ members in Dec. 2012 They were trying to raise funds to help victims of hurricane Sandy to make it thru the winter. Goal was 1.5 million$. After 3 weeks of fund raising, the everyone ended up donating 4+ million dollars. The church gave ALL of it away not only to homeless people afflicted by hurricane Sandy but also to various charitable organizations in the South East (homeless shelters, orphanages, kitchen for the homeless, red cross, etc). Throughout history I see these things happens from Christians and whenever calamity strikes a country, its the Christian organizations that come to give help whether financial and/or in volunteer hours.

      Sadly today, there are a lot of 'christians' who behave anything but one (ie hates gay people, scorns non believers). It didn't make sense as Christ specifically stated not to despise anyone, love others as yourself, feed the poor, cloth the naked, etc. In the book of Timothy, it was specifically stated not to engage in senseless arguments as 'our charge is to love one another'. Which is why don't be surprised you won't find a lot of believers wasting their time in these forums.

      January 6, 2013 at 10:55 pm |
    • Nematelminthes

      Put religion aside for awhile, you got to ask when you examine closely nature around us, and the natural order of things. Could this really be evolution, or the product of an intelligent design? Even Charles Darwin conceded that he doesn't know how the human eye could have evolved. Did it started off as a mass of white ball, then it slowly started developing nerves, retina, a cornea, and essentially a complex apparatus for capturing light and transmitting it via nerve cells to the brain?

      Even scientist tried to replicate to see if they can produce a single-celled organism in a laboratory. In a controlled lab, they have a vat and placed it with liquid and protein material in it, subjected it to different temperatures, pressure, light, etc.... but they couldn't even produce a single strand of DNA nor the complex chromosomes comprising it. Now I've heard of experiments where scientist created a single cell, but that is using existing DNA from other microorganisms, and not really from scratch.

      January 6, 2013 at 10:57 pm |
    • ToBelieveOrNotToBelieve

      The number of people in the world who believes in some form of deity far outnumber people who don't really believe in a god by several orders of magnitude. So it's either god-believing people are morons (or having a "weak mind" lol), or atheists are. If you know math, or studied probability, then you know the numbers are stacked up against you.

      If we're all going to eventually die anyway, then it doesn't really matter if some people believe in a god. No need to try to convince them that there isn't any. Since assuming that there really isn't a god, we would all end up the same way when we die right?
      ... but then what if you're wrong?

      January 6, 2013 at 11:00 pm |
    • Apatheist

      @andyoucallyourself..... As stated, I meant Jesus.... Your mesiah who imposed the christian hell upon all of humanity. Infinate punishment for finite crimes. The atrocities in the Old Testament pale in comparison to Jesus' hell.

      January 6, 2013 at 11:09 pm |
    • Real Deal

      ToBelieveOrNotToBelieve,

      – Care to take a guess about the percentage of people 1000 years ago (even 500 yrs ago) who believed that the Earth was the center of the Universe and that the Sun orbited us?

      – Believe whatever you wish, but just keep your myths, legends and superst-itions out of government, public policy, public education and the retarding of scientific advancements.

      (reposted, since it landed in the wrong spot)

      January 6, 2013 at 11:13 pm |
    • Apatheist

      @tobelieveornottobelieve..... Pascal's wager is flawed for many reasons. I will point out the fact that, even if I SAY I believe in a god/gods, the fact is, I don't... Remember as well that Jesus will punish you to his hell for THOUGHT "crimes". Therefore, there wouldn't be any point in me lying about it, as you suggest.

      January 6, 2013 at 11:14 pm |
    • AndYouCallYourselfAProfOfReligion

      Apatheist
      You seem to be too fixated (and infuriated) at Christ's mentioning of 'Hell'. (... "infinite suffering for finite crimes/thought crimes included"). When you say "...thought crimes included", i take it you are talking about that time when Christ said if you harbor thoughts of lust against a woman, then you are essentially committing adultery. That is the only 'thought crime' i can remember in the Bible. Now you see, doesn't that proves that Christ is not amoral as that actually attempt to instill some form of moral values?

      Christ wasn't sent down here so that his main purpose is to tell everyone "You are all going to HELLLL...". But rather be a way out for us by being the atonement for our sins thru his death on the cross (Romans).

      For God so lived the world that he gave his only begotten Son so that whoever believes in him will not perish and have everlasting life. (John 3:16).

      Take it or leave it, my friend. In the end, I wish you well.

      January 7, 2013 at 12:00 am |
    • Apatheist

      I don't get fixated or infuriated by fiction. I am only pointing out your christian hypocracy.

      January 7, 2013 at 12:48 am |
    • UncleBenny

      To Nematelminthes:

      The appalling ignorance of science in your post is understandable, given the extent to which creationists have frightened publishers and educators into practically eliminating the teaching of evolution in the United States (isn't it interesting that this is a peculiarly American phenomenon?). Darwin is hardly a modern source. We've learned a thing or two since Darwin. We now know, for instance, that natural selection is not the only driving force behind evolution, in fact possibly not even the primary force.

      Try Googling "evolution of the eye." The process of going from a few simple light sensitive cells to the human eye is well understood, except by the willfully ignorant, and Darwin in fact described it pretty well.

      Darwin's comments on the eye are always taken out of context by the antiscience crowd. Here is the complete quote:
      "To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of Spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree. When it was first said that the sun stood still and the world turned round, the common sense of mankind declared the doctrine false; but the old saying of Vox populi, vox Dei ["the voice of the people = the voice of God "], as every philosopher knows, cannot be trusted in science. Reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a simple and imperfect eye to one complex and perfect can be shown to exist, each grade being useful to its possessor, as is certain the case; if further, the eye ever varies and the variations be inherited, as is likewise certainly the case; and if such variations should be useful to any animal under changing conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, should not be considered as subversive of the theory."

      Anti science people love to cite the first sentence in this paragraph and leave out the rest, which brings one to a completely different conclusion.

      As to our current inability to create life in the lab, just wait. Were probably closer than you think. When we do, where will you retreat to next?

      January 7, 2013 at 6:55 am |
  11. Text 101

    Mr. Moore's style inflames to draw attention. A self aggrandizing piece this is and not totally logical or accurate. If the Bible be correct, Jesus was a perfect son of God without sin, ergo, he wouldn't suffer the illnesses Mr. Moore attributes to him. More over, no where in the bible does Jesus claim to be God but to the contrary at John 14:28 he says "the Father is greater than I am". And at John 1:18 it says 18 "No man has seen God at any time ". If Jesus was God incarnate Mr. Moore claims, how can that be? Mr. Moore is an other of a long line of confused trinitarians that knows apostate church doctrine and history better than the bible.

    January 6, 2013 at 10:02 pm |
    • there is no other truth but truth absolute, and truth absolute is LORD AND GOD OF THE WORLD.

      IF?

      January 6, 2013 at 10:10 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      now?

      January 6, 2013 at 10:11 pm |
  12. Kami Lian

    It's always nice to read about the realistic side of Jesus rather than the fairy tale story he's been made out to be.

    January 6, 2013 at 9:59 pm |
    • Reggie Woods

      I THINK I WILL PUT MY BETS ON THE INFALIBLE KJV BIBLE WRITTEN BY INSPIRED MEN OF GOD. NOT SOMEBODY TRYING TO MAKE THEMSELVES FEEL BETTER BY DEGRADING A HOLY GOD WHO CAME TO SEEK AND TO SAVE THOSE WHO ARE LOST.NO THERE IS NOT A BIBLE WRITTEN ABOUT SANTA. THAT CLEARLY IS A FABLE. I HAVE INDEED PUT YOUR NAME IN MY PRAYER LIST.

      January 6, 2013 at 10:26 pm |
    • Athy

      Turn off your caps lock, Reggie (if you know how).

      January 6, 2013 at 10:31 pm |
  13. Joe

    Hah, what a joke. I guess we should expect such tripe from someone associated with liberty u.

    January 6, 2013 at 9:58 pm |
    • sqeptiq

      Tripe would be insulted to be associated with liberty u.

      January 6, 2013 at 10:57 pm |
  14. JOE B

    Sad, but this guy is absolutely off the wall. He's putting down the creator of the universe. This is absolute foolishness. Jesus is God, God is Jesus. We can't even comprehend a small amount of what the Lord knows. All science was created by Him and this man, Johnnie Moore. thinks he has the right to put down Jesus who took our sins on the cross and through this action not our foolish pride or good works we may enter heaven in his mercy and grace.

    January 6, 2013 at 9:58 pm |
    • Saraswati

      How is he putting down Jesus? He's saying Jesus suffered for human salvation, just as Christians have been saying for 2000 years?

      January 6, 2013 at 10:00 pm |
    • hal 9001

      I'm sorry, "JOE B", but "God", "Lord", "Him" and "creator of the universe" are all elements of mythology, therefore all of your assertions are unfounded. Using my Idiomatic Expression Equivalency module (IEE), the expression that best matches the degree to which your assertions may represent truths is: "TOTAL FAIL".

      January 6, 2013 at 10:17 pm |
    • Athy

      Keep up your great posts, Joe. Each one must convert at least a few religies to atheism.

      January 6, 2013 at 10:33 pm |
    • Ahaha

      @Hal, Your Idiomatic Expression Equivalency module (IEE) is full of bugs and is best delegated back to its original intended purpose, which is to provide embedded logic for the operation of that apparatus that gives you a blow j0 b, day in day out.

      Isn't that one of the joys of being an atheist? that by choosing not to believe in a god you don't have to adhere to any set of morals save those that suits your wish?

      January 6, 2013 at 10:36 pm |
    • sqeptiq

      Yes ahaha, being an atheist does mean you don't have to adhere to any set of morals you find disagreeable...such as burning women who appear a bit odd because the church tells you they are evil witches (you get to help then escape torture and death) and you don't have to believe that the earth is the center of the universe because your church tells you it is immoral to believe otherwise (you get to use science and find the truth). The hierarchical dictated morals that come from religion are far inferior to the morals that come from rational humanism. And as a rational humanist, you don't have to worry about burning in eternal torment for something you didn't even know was a crime.
      SEE, OTHERS CAN CUT AND PASTE AS WELL.

      January 6, 2013 at 11:00 pm |
    • Ahaha

      @sqeptiq
      Thank you for being a rational humanist. We need more of that. Now you can become an even better rational humanist by doing more research. Obviously the Bible has talked about things like "Thou shall not kill", and "Love others as you love yourself". Now which part of the burning of women accused of witchcraft by 'church' people during the Salem, Mass. trials adhered to this? Even Jesus' time remember the story wherein there were men who wanted to stone a woman to death as she was caught having an affair with another married man? Jesus came and stopped them.

      The problem is people listen to other 'religious' people, instead of FINDING OUT FOR THEMSELVES what is stated in the bible (if you don't believe it, then look up its origins in the Apocrypha, Dead Sea Scrolls, etc).

      Remember that time when Jesus went to the wilderness for 3 days to be tempted by the Devil. That devil can also quote verses from the bible, but gave it perverted interpretations (like what you find in a lot of online forums). Jesus was able to easily fend it off by quoting other verses from the OLD TESTAMENT that contradicted the devil's interpretation, and thus present the original verse in light of what they were intended to be.

      Granted in the end there will still be people who don't believe, but that is fine. No biggie, as this is what is supposed to be even till the end of days.

      January 6, 2013 at 11:21 pm |
    • UncleBenny

      Ahaha – You need to go back and check your Bible. Jesus spent forty days in the desert, according to Mark, Matthew and Luke (it's not mentioned in John). Where do you get three days from?

      Isn't in funny how often believers make totally incorrect Biblical assertions?

      January 7, 2013 at 6:25 am |
    • UncleBenny

      Ahaha:

      Exodus 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

      January 7, 2013 at 8:08 am |
    • UncleBenny

      Ahaha: Thou shalt not kill? Apparently this does't apply to killings sanctioned by God. Read Exodus, Leviticus, Samuel, Kings, Joshua. Rampant murder, genocide, and executions, all ordered by God. And you can't say that this is the Old Testament which was superseded by the New, having just noted that Jesus cited Old Testament (aka Hebrew Scripture) verses in his battle of wits with Satan.

      January 7, 2013 at 8:14 am |
  15. sam

    Jesus was stupid, dirty, nonsense created by neanderthals.
    Santa is the right religion. Clean, smart, doesn't kill people and is vegetarian!
    Screw Jesus, believe in Santa!

    January 6, 2013 at 9:58 pm |
    • Julian

      You mean Satan.
      or is it Santa?
      Maybe they are one.

      January 6, 2013 at 10:17 pm |
    • sqeptiq

      Julian, only to dyslexics.

      January 6, 2013 at 11:01 pm |
  16. Burgy

    If Jesus had dysentery, why wouldn't he just cure himself?

    January 6, 2013 at 9:57 pm |
    • Saraswati

      I think that's the point of the article...that he was a man to connect with humans. So the idea (and I'm not a Christian) would be that he would spread his message by becoming one of us and relating to us as humans.

      January 6, 2013 at 9:59 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Precisely, Burgy, and that's the one issue that a christian could possibly take with this article. If Jesus was perfect, yet a man, yet able to heal and resurrect, why would he, in perfection of spirit not also be perfect of body (sin and physical distress being the result of humanity's sin-of which christ had none). The issue of Christ's possible dysentery cuts to the heart of the matter.

      January 6, 2013 at 10:03 pm |
  17. Interesting

    Can you imagine if this same article came out but instead of talking about Jesus, it was Allah the human being? It's a real pleasure to see those that believe in Jesus Christ simply making comments such as, "you will be forgiven", or saying the author will some have to account for this article. The difference between the two religions is astounding. Nobody is making posts to have the head of the author on a pike or that he be killed for dishonoring Jesus. In fact, I'd be willing to wager a fair sum that if this article was about Allah, CNN would probably have baulked at even posting it for fear of reprisals for insulting Muslims.

    January 6, 2013 at 9:56 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      You're lunging out there for two different targets and missing both by a wide margin. Collect your thoughts. Count the number of issues you wish to tackle. Make a few preliminary notes. And take another stab at it, or another swing, or another shot, or whatever verb most applies to whatever it is you were trying to do.

      January 6, 2013 at 10:00 pm |
    • sqeptiq

      In christianity, the reprisals come a little later when the "god of love" causes infidels to burn in agonizing torment for all eternity. Cutting off heads is for wusses.

      January 6, 2013 at 11:06 pm |
  18. CSX

    You wicked evil person, you defile the Son of Man? Are you so good to attack God?

    I dare you brave man, say that about Muhammad, go ahead, I'll wait.

    January 6, 2013 at 9:54 pm |
    • Hairy Johnson

      Amen! EVERY knee will bow and every tongue will confess that JESUS CHRIST is LORD! <3

      January 6, 2013 at 9:57 pm |
    • hal 9001

      I'm sorry, "CSX" and "Hairy Johnson", but "God", "Son of Man", "Christ" and "Lord" are all elements of mythology, therefore your assertions are unfounded. Using my Idiomatic Expression Equivalency module (IEE), the expression that best matches the degree to which your assertions may represent truths is: "TOTAL FAIL".

      January 6, 2013 at 10:15 pm |
    • Ahaha

      @Hal, Your Idiomatic Expression Equivalency module (IEE) is full of bugs and is best delegated back to its original intended purpose, which is to provide embedded logic for the operation of that apparatus that gives you a blow j0 b, day in day out.

      Isn't that one of the joys of being an atheist? that by choosing not to believe in a god you don't have to adhere to any set of morals save those that suits your wish?

      January 6, 2013 at 10:36 pm |
    • hee hee

      Muhammad is silly too.

      January 6, 2013 at 10:58 pm |
    • sqeptiq

      Yes ahaha, being an atheist does mean you don't have to adhere to any set of morals you find disagreeable...such as burning women who appear a bit odd because the church tells you they are evil witches (you get to help then escape torture and death) and you don't have to believe that the earth is the center of the universe because your church tells you it is immoral to believe otherwise (you get to use science and find the truth). The hierarchical dictated morals that come from religion are far inferior to the morals that come from rational humanism. And as a rational humanist, you don't have to worry about burning in eternal torment for something you didn't even know was a crime.

      January 6, 2013 at 11:08 pm |
  19. oldowl

    Amazing how clear the photo of his hand is.

    January 6, 2013 at 9:53 pm |
  20. da

    I found the article interesting and appears to draw an accur picture of his physical appearance during this time period. I also understand that their were many men who were named esus during this time period.

    January 6, 2013 at 9:50 pm |
    • UncleBenny

      There are a lot of men named Jesus now. Which raises the question, if Jesus was Jewish, how come he had a Mexican name?

      January 7, 2013 at 6:27 am |
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