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My Take: Jesus was a dirty, dirty God
January 5th, 2013
10:00 PM ET

My Take: Jesus was a dirty, dirty God

Editor’s note: Johnnie Moore is the author of Dirty God (#DirtyGod). He is a professor of religion and vice president at Liberty University. Keep track of him @johnnieM .

By Johnnie Moore, Special to CNN

(CNN) - Jesus was a lot more like you than you think, and a lot less clean cut than this iconic image of him that floats around culture.

You know the image. It’s the one where Jesus is walking like he’s floating in robes of pristine white followed by birds singing some holy little ditty. He’s polished, manicured, and clearly – God.

But despite the Christian belief that Jesus was both fully God and fully man, Jesus was a rather dirty God.

He was the “earthly” son of a carpenter, and life in the first-century was both more lurid and unfinished than our collective religious memory seems to recall.

To that end, I suggested recently to several astounded colleagues of mine that Jesus actually had to go to the bathroom, perhaps even on the side of the road between Capernaum and Jerusalem.

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What tipped them over the edge was when I insinuated that Jesus, like almost every other human being living in the rural world in that time, might have even had dysentery on an occasion or two.

Someone said, “You mean that Jesus might have had severe diarrhea?”

“Yep,” I replied, “That’s exactly what I mean.”

It seems like an obvious statement if you believe that Jesus was “fully God” and “fully man” (as most evangelicals believe and call the Incarnation), but to some of us it seems in the least, inappropriate, and at the most, sacrilege, to imagine Jesus in this way. We might believe that God was also man, but we picture him with an ever-present halo over his head.

But, actually, the Jesus of the Bible was more human than most people are conditioned to think.

I call this the dirty side of Jesus. He was grittier, and a lot more like us than maybe we believe, and that’s one of the reasons why so many thousands of people followed him so quickly.

They could relate to him.

He was the teacher from a small town who knew and understood the economic insecurity that was common in the first century. Times must have been rather tough for Jesus at points in his life, for he even spoke of being homeless, having to sleep on the ground with no roof over his head.

He also knew what it was like to have his message rejected and how it felt to be misunderstood. Jesus was regarded with such little significance in his hometown that one of his critics once remarked sardonically, “Isn’t this the carpenter’s son?” Jesus eventually had to move to different city (Capernaum) because his teachings so infuriated the people living in his hometown that they drove him out of Nazareth and even tried to throw him off a cliff.

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The real Jesus had dirt underneath his fingernails and calluses on his hands. He probably smelled badly from sweating profusely in the Judean sun on his long hikes to Jerusalem, and Jesus was, without a doubt, rumored to be a hypocrite or absolutely mad for all the time he spent with prostitutes and those afflicted with leprosy.

Not exactly have a clean-cut image.

He had a rather shady reputation.

Some people thought he was a revolutionary. The religious leaders called him a heretic, and others even accused him of being a drunkard and a glutton - in no small part because of the vagabond group of disciples he had with him. No serious religious leader of his day would have ever recruited such people.

For his core 12 disciples, Jesus included a tough-as-nails, bombastic fisherman (Peter), a chief tax collector named Matthew (the most hated popular figure of the time), an eventual traitor who was stealing money out of the offering bucket (Judas), a prolific doubter (Thomas), two jocks nicknamed the “Sons of Thunder” (James and John) and Simon the Zealot, a member of a radical political party which believed in using violence to kick out the Romans.

Jesus was sarcastic, too.

He often snapped back at the Pharisees with a tone fit for late-night television, and in a terribly embarrassing moment for all those around him, Jesus even called these respected religious teachers “snakes” that were probably sons of “Satan.”

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That’s not exactly the behavior of a sweet, self-help teacher with a halo over his head.

It’s the behavior of a frustrated man who might also be divine, but sure knows how it feels for annoying people to get under his skin.

Christians believe that Jesus chose to be born fully human, too, but why?

Lots of theologians have laid out opinions over the centuries, and in their opining they have tried once again to hijack Jesus’ humanity by defining it in philosophical terms. I believe it’s simpler than the philosophy and church councils and centuries of argument.

The brilliance of Christianity is the image of a God, named Jesus, arrived with dirty hands.

Jesus came in a time period when Greco-Roman gods were housed in gigantic temples and portrayed with superhuman powers and with superhuman physiques. Gods were believed to be far away from people on their mountains or hemmed up in their sanctuaries.

Jesus arrived in defiance of this prevailing imagery.

Jesus didn’t come flinging lightning bolts from a mountaintop, or playing politics in Rome. He came to live in a typical Middle Eastern village called Nazareth that was home to a couple hundred typical people. He didn’t decide to brandish his power, but to spend most of his time with the powerless and disenfranchised. And when he started a religious movement that reshaped history, he did it in the most profound and anticlimatic way:

He let himself be killed, and then he busted open a tomb.

In Jesus we meet a Savior who understood the desire to sleep just a few more hours, and who had to control his temper sometimes. In Jesus we find a God we can relate to because he chose to relate to us.

He was the God who became dirty so that the world’s souls might be made clean.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Johnnie Moore.

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  1. PRISM 1234

    “Who Do Men Say that the Son of Man is?”
    (Matthew 16:13)

    Jesus originally asked His disciples a very important question: “Who do men say
    that I am?” It is the most important question that every person eventually must
    answer. How you answer determines your eternal fate. The Holy Scriptures answer
    this question, declaring Jesus to be Lord (God Almighty in the flesh) and the
    Messiah whom the prophets foretold long before His coming.
    I mention this because this past fall, on the 25th To The Jew First Gospel outreach
    to Israel, the Lord brought it up. On my flight to Israel, Yuval—the 43-year-old man
    sitting next to me—professed to being an Orthodox Jew. We shared our respective
    backgrounds with each other, and Yuval was fascinated that I believe the Bible
    unequivocally points to Yeshua as Messiah and divine Lord. Wanting to see the
    historical evidence for this, Yuval followed along as I pointed to a list of Messianic
    prophecies given in the Tanach (Old Testament) and their fulfillment in the B’rit
    Hadashah (New Testament).
    We read together how the
    Messiah would be born in
    Bethlehem (Micah 5:2 with
    Matthew 2:1–6); would come
    from the tribe of Judah
    (Genesis 49:10 with Hebrews
    7:14); would rise from the
    dead (Psalm 16:10 with Acts
    2:22–28); and would be the
    Son of God (Psalm 2:7 with
    Luke 22:70). I showed Yuval
    other Messianic prophecies
    that Jesus uniquely fulfilled.
    When Yuval resisted the idea
    that Jesus is God, I reminded him that Israel’s own prophets revealed this startling
    truth in places like Psalm 110:1, Isaiah 9:6, and Micah 5:2.
    Yuval took in all this for the first time. Hebrew writers of his own Bible said that
    the Messiah would be God in the flesh: it is one of the central truths about Jesus
    that many in rabbinic Judaism will not believe, even though it was prophesied in
    the Jewish Bible!
    Yuval said several times that he would read more about these prophecies when I
    gifted him with a complete Jewish Bible with both Testaments. Ironically, Yuval
    also repeated several times that this would not convince him to believe that
    Yeshua is God and the Messiah. But his actions belied his words. Praise God!—a
    seed has been planted in a fertile heart and mind. Now the Holy Spirit can water
    it and convince Yuval to confess in the words of Doubting Thomas when he
    beheld the risen Jesus: “My Lord and my God” (John 20:28).

    By Dr. Todd D. Baker
    Z. Levitt Ministries

    January 11, 2013 at 11:21 pm |
    • Athy

      Please, PRISM, spare us the biblical bullshit. It's meaningless for anyone who can think.

      January 11, 2013 at 11:41 pm |
    • PRISM 1234

      Athy, dear, you're just another one of those lame and blind beggars who hasn't seen the light of day, so he thinks that his darkness is all there is... Don't boast yourself of your thinking, you're desperately deficient, because the most important part of you is DEAD.
      I doubt you could grasp the meaning of it, but you'd be better off to save the little sanity you've got, you'll need it as you stumble the rest of the way to your final destination!
      BTW, it is for the LIVING thinking ones I'm posting...not for the DEAD.

      January 12, 2013 at 12:04 pm |
    • Kim

      PRISM 1234
      We could also say that the rational part of you, the part that judges things according to common sense criteria, is DEAD.

      January 12, 2013 at 1:43 pm |
    • Georgie Vasquez

      too stupid for science , try religion .

      January 13, 2013 at 9:00 am |
  2. Satan

    I on the other hand just got out of the tub...come on, picture me..climbing out of the tub like Prince in that purple rain video.
    Nothing but me, steam and bubbles.

    666-666-6666 (call me)

    You know you want to call me (wink wink).

    January 11, 2013 at 8:34 pm |
  3. Oh come on...

    This ENTIRE article and nobody has a "pope with soap" joke?

    January 11, 2013 at 8:16 pm |
  4. Here's a thought

    If you pick up a clump of dirt, technically the grains of dirt are closer to the skin cells of your finger, than the skin cells of your finger are to the skin cells in your big toe. If you ignore things like the like binding of molecules...the entire universe (dirt included) is realy just one big "thing".

    January 11, 2013 at 8:03 pm |
  5. Jerry Garcia

    Did you ever notice just how many dirty hippies "kinda" look like the big J.C.?

    January 11, 2013 at 8:00 pm |
    • Charles Manson

      Hey don't forget me!

      January 11, 2013 at 8:20 pm |
    • Marilyn Manson

      Shut up, Charles.

      January 11, 2013 at 8:21 pm |
  6. Buster

    A non-believer Harvard neurosurgeon recently admitted that God and Heaven exist after he had his own near death experience. If you don't believe me, read the book by Eben Alexander. He died, and in his book he emphasizes that there is absolutely no medical explanation for his near death experience because his brain neo-cortex was destroyed by bacterial meningitis.

    What puzzles me is why atheists still continue to deny the existence of the Spirit world!!!!!!!!

    January 11, 2013 at 6:17 pm |
    • Dreamer96

      Buster...

      People of other religions have had near death experiences too...
      Christians are not the only ones that have written about their experiences...
      Even Atheist scientists have had those experiences....
      The thing is a Buddhists see their version of the after life...
      A Muslims sees their version of the after life...
      A Native American Indian see their version of a after life...

      Even Athetists have had out of body experiences and saw their own body on the emergency room bed....have been declared dead...and came back to life so more...

      But does that prove the Christian version of the after life is the only one?...
      Does it prove the existance of a Supreme being talked about in the Bible..
      or is it a part of our natural Physics that science has not explained yet...another dimension to our reality we were not as aware of....

      January 11, 2013 at 6:35 pm |
    • Saraswati

      Well, if someone suffering brain damage thought they saw angels and butterfiles while in a coma then that certainly tells me there's an afterlife. I'll be sure to check with a few schizophrenics on that whole life on other planets issue too.

      I have no idea whether there's life after death or not, though this particular scene seems highly improbable. But my biggest problem with all these stories is with the idea of a god who generally tries to hide anything that could be seen as real evidence (because you need faith) and then slips up and shows it every now and then in very culturally and belief specific ways. Doesn't have the ring of truth to me, and really only could if you live in some sort of bubble that cuts out all knowledge of experiences in people of other cultures and religions.

      January 11, 2013 at 6:49 pm |
    • Emma

      Buster
      If the Doc actually died then he would still be dead, right? He may have almost died, and he may have hallucinated something as his brain ran out of oxygen, but that's not the same as an actual dead dead guy coming back to tell tales.

      January 12, 2013 at 12:18 am |
    • Georgie Vasquez

      too stupid for science , try religion .

      January 13, 2013 at 9:02 am |
  7. Buster

    @Dreamer96

    We all have a Spirit, and it becomes more apparent after our physical body dies. The brain and our physical body is a limitation of the Spirit.

    January 11, 2013 at 6:13 pm |
    • Wendy

      Cool Buster. Now all you need to show is some proof...

      Oh, wait...

      January 11, 2013 at 6:16 pm |
    • Emma

      Buster
      Kill the brain and the personality, soul to you I suppose, dies also just as certain drugs and trauma can also alter people's personality. Every bit of evidence suggests that everything about our personality is contained in the biological. Nothing suggests that anything survives once the brain is completely dead.

      January 12, 2013 at 12:24 am |
  8. niknak

    Jeebus was a dirtball.

    January 11, 2013 at 4:59 pm |
  9. Buster

    @free speech

    God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit represent a triune God. Jesus is of the essence of God, and not a separate God as well as the Holy Spirit in one. When Jesus spoke those words, he was incarnate with flesh and filled with the Holy Spirit. He understood that people would blaspheme against Him in the flesh. If they understood the Spirit, that raised the punishment for the blasphemy and would not be forgiven.

    January 11, 2013 at 3:44 pm |
    • niknak

      what a bunch of bull

      January 11, 2013 at 4:23 pm |
    • Dreamer96

      If you ever spend any time around a stroke victim and knew them well before or someone that has had brain damage..it will make you wonder if there is a spirit beyond our bodies,,,or all of it is in the brain itself....I see how hard it is for stroke victims to return to their old self after the brain has been damaged....and I wondered sometimes if the person I knew was even in the body anymore....It is a question I do not have a firm answer for...but I like to think the spirit exists and just can not use the brain anymore....it is like a computer interface that is damaged and the body has failed to repair itself...Our brains can reroute data, or rebuild some damage..but there are limits...look at the parts of a brain used by a person with Autism...many use the area set aside for vision and the eyes for other uses, when those areas have failed to work properly..maybe mercury or some other chemical has damaged those other parts beyond repair..and so the Brain uses what it can...pretty amazing really..a self repairing chemical based computer...

      January 11, 2013 at 5:08 pm |
    • Dreamer96

      To contnue more on the spirit and brain damage....The conservative Religious groups are against governemnt funded or allowed research in Stem Cell usage...but if the human DNA is a plan for the completed body...then mixing the DNA of a brain damaged person into new stem cells might be like telling the stem cells what the finished body is suppose to be, and then injecting the stem cells into the damaged area of the brain will supply the victims body with the building material to repair the damaged parts of the brain...could one grow back a lost arm that way..I do not know..

      But consider now..today.. they have already grow organs like lungs, kindneys, hearts that are a perfect match for the person in need..because they grew them with their own DNA ....Something to think about....no more permanet injured soldiers....

      January 11, 2013 at 5:19 pm |
  10. Buster

    @dreamer96

    well, you answered the question like a woman.

    January 11, 2013 at 1:50 pm |
    • Dreamer96

      Buster...Lol....answered like a women...Ha ha ha...

      How do you figure that??.... because I show empathy for women?....Consider them as equals ....I guess you can not hear my belching, or smell my stinky hairly armpit odor..... or see me scratching my crotch..... LOL....So do you consider women equallys???? Why do so many Christians have the problem of seeing women as equals to men?...

      I guess it is that Apple thing in the Garden of Eden...Adam had a mind of his own too, you know....and Eve was made from Adam's rib bone....Not Adam's foot bone....

      January 11, 2013 at 3:59 pm |
  11. dreamer96

    I was watching a science show that other day about tracking the DNA of the Neanderthals, and the scientist have found parts of it in our modern humans DNA,...mostly Eruopean and Asians..not much in Africa...and that makes sense since the Neanderthal thrived in colder regions of the world...seemed to avoid the very hot regions like in Africa.....

    I wonder if the NRA is made up of people with lots of Neanderthal DNA...Maybe that is why some people are more agressive then others...It is the Neanderthal in their DNA......I have heard many people discribe others with anger issues as being real Neanderthals....Alex Jones in his interview with Piers Morgan the other day looked like a real Neanderthal....Should people with anger management issues, even be allowed to own guns???

    January 11, 2013 at 11:13 am |
    • meifumado

      What a silly post, do you really think this?
      And with this absurd statement of yours you are implying that humans of Euro and Asian backgrounds are more violent then African.

      You did give me a good laugh though

      January 11, 2013 at 3:49 pm |
    • Dreamer96

      meifumado

      Glad you laughed...Humor is a powerful tool...after all there are no Neanderthals anymore...so did they die off naturally,,.. or did our forefathers kill them off...Who really was more violent?...DO we modern man...have some Neanderthal DNA beacuse some females were taken a long time ago by our accient forefathers?...

      We take DNA samples of everyone that commits a bad crime....Why not analyze that DNA...do bad people have a DNA link?...Too much Neanderthal or too little...or something else...maybe to much Snake DNA ...or too much Crocodile DNA...

      January 11, 2013 at 4:19 pm |
    • niknak

      It is probably something we will never know dreamer.
      I also read that there have been other lines besides us and the neaderthals, one of which was in Asia.
      And we have the aboringinees in Australia who have an DNA set that is not explained by what came out of Africa.
      That is why so many people still cling onto religion, because then they can just put their head in the sand and say god just did it that way.

      January 11, 2013 at 4:28 pm |
    • Georgie Vasquez

      if the Neanderthals were almost exterminated by the Cromagnons , your argument makes no sense , it should be the other way around ...

      January 13, 2013 at 9:13 am |
  12. professor

    I love this column. Jesus is always shown as this mousy little wimpy man who talked in breathless tones so you can barely hear him. The truth is he was probably a hulking brutish man, tough as nails. People who took one look at him did not doubt he was the son of God. Think Hercules or Perseus NOT the helpless baby Jesus in a cave. He emptied out an entire courtyard with a whip and nobody dared stand up to him- not even the temple guard who were armed to the teeth and standing right there (they probably saw his point and were egging him on).

    The apostles he chose were all powerful and bombastic. Peter was a large man with calloused hands and a rough face. They drank hard, they played hard. Have you EVER met a fisherman or a carpenter who was boring, mousy and pious? They yelled and had fun. They told dirty jokes. Jesus would have been hysterically funny to an ancient audience. Imagine the lawyers all sitting in the front row and Jesus takes the stage and starts ripping on them. The audience would NOT have sat their quietly and respectfully. It would have been a free for all of yelling back and forth, laughing, clapping and cheering.

    Dysentary might have been a bridge to far though. There is nothing at all in scripture suggesting Jesus was EVER sick. Perseus never caught cold either..

    January 11, 2013 at 10:42 am |
    • dreamer96

      professor

      Funny I never thought of Jesus as having a hercules style body.....Just average build...He did work as a capenter and the carpenters I know have good muscle tone...by are not body builder status, Hercules built to excess....They are just like a average farmer, strong and even in muscle tone...Jesus's whole life was about being humble and coming from the low end of the society...he was born with the animals in a very humble place...I do not see him as a super strong human...but then being the son of God, he would have had super powers if he wanted them...he just did not need them...

      January 11, 2013 at 10:50 am |
    • I AM

      Jesus, in his day, offended a great many people. From the top echelon to the wicked. I'm sure his speeches were met with disdain from many who listened. He had to flee many towns that he spoke in because of the uproar he caused.

      January 11, 2013 at 2:41 pm |
    • Manny

      prof
      He said that they called him a drunkard and a glutton, and he barely lasted a few hours of an execution method that typically lasted days. He stopped working to walk about talking to people and living off of their charity. How does that make him tough?

      January 11, 2013 at 3:39 pm |
    • meifumado

      Well said Manny ,if Jesus did exist he would remind you of a crap encrusted foul smelling homeless person on the #2 train in NYC that everyone avoids

      January 11, 2013 at 3:58 pm |
    • Dreamer96

      meifumado

      Jesus would be a homeless man if he was on earth today...someone we all avoid....Hmm..Remeber the song.."What if God was one of us"....and just testing us to see how we are treating each other....

      Steve Jobs was a bit of a hippie...and used LSD....He called it an amazing experience for himself, and it changed how he viewed the world....and would you have avoided Steve Jobs on the NY Train too...

      January 11, 2013 at 4:26 pm |
  13. david defrank

    to johhny moore sorry i did not read your entire blog.yes jesus got his hands dirty

    January 11, 2013 at 9:06 am |
    • frespech

      The Bible says a sin against Jesus would be forgiven, but a sin against the Holy Spirit would not be forgiven. Now how do you put the 2 as equal and the same?

      January 11, 2013 at 1:46 pm |
  14. Bob

    These have no root.
    Luk_8:13
    My soul, examine thyself this morning by the light of this text. Thou hast received the word with joy; thy feelings have been stirred and a lively impression has been made; but, remember, that to receive the word in the ear is one thing, and to receive Jesus into thy very soul is quite another; superficial feeling is often joined to inward hardness of heart, and a lively impression of the word is not always a lasting one. In the parable, the seed in one case fell upon ground having a rocky bottom, covered over with a thin layer of earth; when the seed began to take root, its downward growth was hindered by the hard stone and therefore it spent its strength in pushing its green shoot aloft as high as it could, but having no inward moisture derived from root nourishment, it withered away. Is this my case? Have I been making a fair show in the flesh without having a corresponding inner life? Good growth takes place upwards and downwards at the same time. Am I rooted in sincere fidelity and love to Jesus? If my heart remains unsoftened and unfertilized by grace, the good seed may germinate for a season, but it must ultimately wither, for it cannot flourish on a rocky, unbroken, unsanctified heart. Let me dread a godliness as rapid in growth and as wanting in endurance as Jonah’s gourd; let me count the cost of being a follower of Jesus, above all let me feel the energy of his Holy Spirit, and then I shall possess an abiding and enduring seed in my soul. If my mind remains as obdurate as it was by nature, the sun of trial will scorch, and my hard heart will help to cast the heat the more terribly upon the ill-covered seed, and my religion will soon die, and my despair will be terrible; therefore, O heavenly Sower, plough me first, and then cast the truth into me, and let me yield thee a bounteous harvest.

    January 11, 2013 at 7:30 am |
    • Emma

      Bob
      So, you want to be "plough"ed, eh? :-)

      January 11, 2013 at 3:43 pm |
    • meifumado

      Do you have any thoughts of your own Bob?
      Or are you completely brainwashed?

      January 11, 2013 at 4:01 pm |
    • Athy

      Bob can only cut and paste. Nothing original here.

      January 11, 2013 at 5:21 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Have you ever seen Blob's writing?? Be grateful that he cuts and pastes! Reading his deathless prose is more painful than any dry socket.

      January 11, 2013 at 8:23 pm |
    • PRISM 1234

      O heavenly Sower, plough me first, and then cast the truth into me, and let me yield thee a bounteous harvest.

      AMEN! AMEN .....Oh, may the hearts of all who seek God cry out from their deepest parts within them: A-M-E-N!

      January 11, 2013 at 10:27 pm |
    • Damocles

      I think Bob and Prism are sweet on each other, perhaps some meeting and mutual ploughing is in the works?

      January 11, 2013 at 10:32 pm |
    • mama k

      Lol, tom. I do know that my eyes were glazing over from reading something fred was trying to say to hawaii somewhere. maybe i should bookmark that page for the next time i'm having trouble sleeping.

      January 11, 2013 at 10:33 pm |
  15. jon dick pope

    how can jessus be a god if christiantiy only beleives in one god???

    jesus christ! they worship jesus and god and that virgin lady... dont they also worship the trinity as another god and then on top of that the holy spirit.

    and jesus was not the savior... he created more prblems than ever and knows that...

    so what does jesus do???

    pulls an arnold and says i will be back!

    January 11, 2013 at 3:15 am |
    • randy

      Christians do not worship Mary. Jesus, God the Father and the Holy Spirit (trinity) are all one. For example I am a brother, a friend and a nephew. That does not make me 3 people, but 1 person with different roles.

      January 11, 2013 at 4:06 am |
    • taxpayinghorse

      randy
      Randy wrote:
      Christians do not worship Mary. Jesus, God the Father and the Holy Spirit (trinity) are all one. For example I am a brother, a friend and a nephew. That does not make me 3 people, but 1 person with different roles.

      Randy you got it right. So well said! God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy spirit. It saddens me to see so many people on here with not reverence to God/Jesus. I only know that the day will come that EVERY knee will bow and every person will say, God I Lord. The same day that sheep will be on the right side and the goats on his left. I have never been more sure of this as I have been these last few years. If anyone studies the Bible and reads the news, the things God said would happen are happening. Mark of the beast: RFID chip; Bad will be called Good...and it is. 50 years ago no one would ever believe that pot is legal in many states, gays can marry in some states...etc.

      January 11, 2013 at 6:03 am |
    • Bob

      As with Father Son and Holy Spirit I think a better example would be we are made of three also, We are a spirit that has a soul that lives in a body. When we die it is not the person in total that perishes but this earthly container that will not go any further. All the memories thoughts words spoken will be remembered when we die and this is our soul our thoughts but we are spirit just as the Father is spirit and no flesh shall inherit the Kingdom of God. We worship God not with flesh but with Spirit and truth.In the Spirit that is the true life of the person the body made would not provide life it takes the spirit to give life to the body.

      January 11, 2013 at 7:29 am |
    • Bob

      Eze 37:1 The hand of the LORD was upon me, and He brought me out by the Spirit of the LORD and set me down in the middle of the valley; and it was full of bones.
      Eze 37:2 He caused me to pass among them round about, and behold, there were very many on the surface of the valley; and lo, they were very dry.
      Eze 37:3 He said to me, "Son of man, can these bones live?" And I answered, "O Lord GOD, You know."
      Eze 37:4 Again He said to me, "Prophesy over these bones and say to them, 'O dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.'
      Eze 37:5 "Thus says the Lord GOD to these bones, 'Behold, I will cause breath to enter you that you may come to life.
      Eze 37:6 'I will put sinews on you, make flesh grow back on you, cover you with skin and put breath in you that you may come alive; and you will know that I am the LORD.'"
      Eze 37:7 So I prophesied as I was commanded; and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold, a rattling; and the bones came together, bone to its bone.
      Eze 37:8 And I looked, and behold, sinews were on them, and flesh grew and skin covered them; but there was no breath in them.
      Eze 37:9 Then He said to me, "Prophesy to the breath, prophesy, son of man, and say to the breath, 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe on these slain, that they come to life."'"
      Eze 37:10 So I prophesied as He commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they came to life and stood on their feet, an exceedingly great army.
      Eze 37:11 Then He said to me, "Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel; behold, they say, 'Our bones are dried up and our hope has perished. We are completely cut off.'
      Eze 37:12 "Therefore prophesy and say to them, 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "Behold, I will open your graves and cause you to come up out of your graves, My people; and I will bring you into the land of Israel.
      Eze 37:13 "Then you will know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves and caused you to come up out of your graves, My people.
      Eze 37:14 "I will put My Spirit within you and you will come to life, and I will place you on your own land. Then you will know that I, the LORD, have spoken and done it," declares the LORD.'"
      Are you dry bones today if so the Lord can breath new life in you there is hope just ask Him that you want to know Him and have life and have it more abundantly. He is faithful and just and what ever the situation He will work it out and there will be peace and joy.

      January 11, 2013 at 7:52 am |
    • david defrank

      dick face .its a mystery in a strange way understood by those who believe.the trinity is one.and we dont worship mary.we love her for her yes to life and because she carried both man and god and let us not forget the holy spirt and because she was created in gods image as you once were

      January 11, 2013 at 9:13 am |
    • Emma

      randy
      when you're hanging out with your brothers and sisters do you ask your parental self, out loud, what to do? Jesus prayed to God. Why would he pray to himself?

      January 11, 2013 at 3:46 pm |
    • Emma

      Bob
      “Of all creatures that breathe and move upon the earth, nothing is bred that is weaker than man.”
      ― Homer, The Odyssey

      Better wisdom from ancient literature.

      January 11, 2013 at 3:57 pm |
    • meifumado

      @taxpayinghorse
      You suffer from what is called wish thinking
      also what does pot being legal in a few states have to do with anything?

      January 11, 2013 at 4:39 pm |
  16. Buster

    @Dreamer96

    Why did you ask so many questions? Are you a women?

    January 10, 2013 at 10:34 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      "a women"? What is wrong with you?

      January 10, 2013 at 10:42 pm |
    • Athy

      I'm a men.

      January 10, 2013 at 11:05 pm |
    • dreamer96

      Buster

      You already asked me that question, and I answered it a page back....No I am not a woman...but my mother was,..my wife is,..my daughter is,...and more then one half of the American population are women...Why do so many religions including Christians treat their women as property and second class citizens???? They work very hard keeping their women down.

      Athy

      Amen was a accient Egyptian God....Amen Ra....Why do all Christians always end their prayers to Jesus, and their God, by mentioning an accient Egyptian God by man..Are they trying to cover their bet??....Trying to appeal to more then just one God...just incase Amen Ra is real???

      January 11, 2013 at 10:13 am |
    • frespech

      David defrank- again if Jsus and God and the Holy Spirit are 1 , why is a sin against Jesus forgiven but a sin against the holy spirit is not?

      January 11, 2013 at 1:51 pm |
    • Athy

      Dreamer96, you're pretty dense, aren't you?

      January 11, 2013 at 5:25 pm |
    • Dreamer96

      Athy

      Dense?...Etu Burtus?

      So What you think I did not see Buster used the plural "Women" amd not the singular "Woman" Tense
      and Tom Tom pointed that out....
      And you came back with "I'm a men" again the plural instead of " I'm a man" ...
      And I jumped on Amen and the accient Egyptian God of Amen RA.......

      You guys are no fun to play with....Too Limited Imagination......too many take every word in the Bible as fact....and when the Bible contradicts itself over and over again....

      January 11, 2013 at 6:25 pm |
    • Athy

      Sorry, Dreamer. My apologies. I'm the dense one.

      January 11, 2013 at 7:08 pm |
    • little christ

      @dreamer 96
      The Bible never contradicts Itself. Every single word in the Bible is the words from the One and Only True Living God. The Bible states that the Bible is living and active. So don't be saying that the Bible contradicts itself when in accuality it never does.

      January 12, 2013 at 12:55 am |
  17. HaHa

    Oops! That post belongs HERE ;)

    Time to be serious, guys. There is a dirt that goes far deeper then the skin surface and body odor... It's people's character that makes them who they are, and that's how people should be judged/evaluated

    January 10, 2013 at 7:37 pm |
  18. HaHa

    Time to be serious, guys. There is a dirt that goes far deeper then the skin surface and body odor... It's people's character that makes them who they are, and that's how people should be judged/evaluated

    January 10, 2013 at 7:35 pm |
  19. Sammy

    Julian the Apostate, Roman emperor from 361 to 363, the most gifted and most bitter of all the ancient assailants of Christianity, endeavored, with the whole combined influence of his station, talent, and example, to restore idolatry throughout the Roman Empire, but in vain. His reign passed away like the “baseless fabric of a vision, leaving no wreck behind save the important lesson that ancient paganism was hopelessly extinct, and that no human power can arrest the triumphant march of Christianity. In his work against the Christian religion, where he combined all former attacks, and infused into them his own sarcastic spirit, he says of Christ, Jesus, having persuaded a few among you Galileans, as he contemptously called the Christians and those of the worst of men, has now been celebrated about three hundred 279years having done nothing in his lifetime worthy of fame, unless any one thinks it a very great work to heal lame and blind people and exorcise demoniacs in the villages of Bethsaida and Bethany.
    Josephus was a Jewish historian who was born around AD 38. He served Roman commander Vespasian in Jerusalem until the city’s destruction in AD 70. Josephus personally believed Vespasian to be Israel’s promised Messiah. When Vespasian later became emperor of Rome, Josephus served under him as court historian. 2 In AD 93, Josephus finished his work Antiquities of the Jews in which at least three passages specifically confirm portions of Scripture
    “At this time there was a wise man who was called Jesus. And his conduct was good, and [he] was known to be virtuous. And many people from among the Jews and the other nations became his disciples. Pilate condemned him to be crucified and to die. And those who had become his disciples did not abandon his discipleship. They reported that he had appeared to them three days after his crucifixion and that he was alive

    January 10, 2013 at 7:15 pm |
    • Tod

      So, Josephus personally believed that Vespation was the expected Messiah and that Jesus was just a good guy that a lot of people followed.

      Doesn't help the case for Christians one little bit, does it?

      January 10, 2013 at 7:26 pm |
    • Bob

      Well Tod if you are a azzhole such as yourself maybe by some chance you didn't read the last line so I will give you the benefit of the doubt knowing this, The disciples said He rose from the dead and is alive now that might help a bit don't you think?

      January 10, 2013 at 7:34 pm |
    • Bob

      As with all Jews at the time looking for the Messiah They all thought that it was going to be a earthly kingdom as in the reign was like a normal king. The Apostles and Josephus also had this idea and hence asked when are you going to restore the Kingdom of God, they did not understand that the Kingdom is already here not made with brick and mortar but made with the Spirit. That the Kingdom of God dwells in all those He calls His own.
      Joh 18:36 Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm."
      Joh 18:37 Therefore Pilate said to Him, "So You are a king?" Jesus answered, "You say correctly that I am a king. For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice."

      January 11, 2013 at 7:18 am |
    • Tod

      Bob
      Lots of wandering miracle workers had disciples just as devoted, and convinced, as Jesus'. Again, do you believe every bit of hearsay that you hear?

      January 12, 2013 at 1:13 pm |
  20. Buster

    Jesus was not dirty. However, do you want to know who is really filthy??

    Answer: French and American women!!!

    January 10, 2013 at 7:02 pm |
    • HaHa

      Your answer is incomplete.. Let me help : French and American women AND men!

      January 10, 2013 at 7:16 pm |
    • Gerry from Bayonne

      Albanians are pretty nasty too. Body odor, facial warts, and steel teeth!

      January 10, 2013 at 7:22 pm |
    • Kim

      Hmmm... Mother Teresa was Albanian.

      And here I thought only her motives and charity bookkeeping stank.

      January 10, 2013 at 7:32 pm |
    • HaHa

      It misfired, so trying again...
      .
      Oops! That post belongs HERE

      Time to be serious, guys. There is a dirt that goes far deeper then the skin surface and body odor... It's people's character that makes them who they are, and that's how people should be judged/evaluated

      January 10, 2013 at 7:40 pm |
    • dreamer96

      Buster

      I can not remember the movie's name..But the girl's line is very funny...

      A highschool boy breaks up with a girl and she said to him something like..You missed your chance, and really messed up!!...I have been an exchange student to France, and I do things, American girls will not do....Then walks away very mad...

      The Boy looks surprised and ponders Just what did she mean??? She has been an exchange student to France, and she does things, American girls will not do...Ohhhh....

      January 11, 2013 at 10:25 am |
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