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January 6th, 2013
07:28 AM ET

College students raise funds to fight slavery

By Jordan Hultine, CNN

Atlanta (CNN)–More than 60,000 young Christians packed the Georgia Dome in Atlanta for worship and inspiration at the Passion 2013 conference that wrapped up on Friday. They came together from 56 countries and 2,300 universities, according to organizers, “to shine a light on modern-day slavery.”

“We believe when you fill a dome full of people who say they follow Jesus, there should be some tangible action,” said Bryson Vogeltanz, chief steward of Passion’s freedom initiative. That tangible action came in the form of tens of thousands of towels and socks donated by conference-goers to be handed out at local homeless shelters in the weeks following the conference.

Vogeltanz and his team also wanted a global initiative. They focused on four key goals, which they called awake, prevent, rescue and restore. They identified 19 nonprofit organizations working around the world to eradicate modern-day slavery and human trafficking. The organizations were showcased during the conference and students and volunteers had the opportunity to donate money to the cause.

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The United Nations estimates 27 million people are entrapped in modern-day slavery at any given time around the world in a market valued at $32 billion.

Last year, Hagar International was one of the recipients of those donations. Hagar helps women and children recovering from horrific abuse and human trafficking in Cambodia, Afghanistan and Vietnam.

“We have been able to serve children who have been released from egregious abuse of being trafficked for sex, both boys and girls, in Cambodia,” said Jane Tafel of Hagar. “Those children have a new life now because of Passion 2012.” Tafel returned to the conference this year for the organization and was anxiously waiting to hear final donation numbers.

Wellspring Living, an organization that provides restorative services for girls who have been trafficked or suffered sexual abuse, said it was able to open a new transition facility as a result of the gifts that conference-goers gave last year, according to president and CEO Mary Frances Bowley.

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“This generation has the potential not just to end slavery, they have the potential to do anything,” Vogeltanz said. “Jesus was the original abolitionist. We’re just following what he’s already done in our lives for us," he said, referring to the Christian belief that Jesus saved all mankind from slavery and sin.

Students spent each day of the four-day conference participating in “community group” learning sessions and praise and worship led by well-known Christian musicians like Chris Tomlin.

An Atlanta-based pastor, Louie Giglio, started Passion in 1997. The goal, he said, was to see college students around the world “awaken to the reality of an omnipotent and glorious Creator.” Since then, organizers said, millions of students have joined the movement at Passion events around the world.

Sarah Stone is a college student from Atlanta who came to Passion with her church group. She said she came looking for a way to live her faith more fully. “Christianity is not just about saying a prayer and going to church on Sunday, it’s about living for Christ with every single thing you do,” Stone said.

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Belmont University student William Dodd said it’s inspiring to be surrounded by so many other college students who are gathered for the same purpose, and he is leaving with a desire to “get in the fight to end (slavery). God made us powerful creatures with a really big voice.”

“It’s inspiring to see a generation so engaged and looking out of themselves and looking at things like slavery and actually committing to making people aware of it and it’s only the beginning,” said Jolie, who declined to give her last name, a conference volunteer who traveled from Australia to be a part of the Passion.

Passion organizers said the students gave $3,170,639 in support of their freedom initiative. Beyond fund-raising, organizers said, the goal was to shine a light on a worldwide problem and to inspire action.

Ramses Prashad, a college student from Orlando, Florida, said he has no other choice but to make a change when he gets home. “I can’t say that I didn’t know and say I wasn’t aware, so I have no other choice but to raise awareness and to do as much as I can for the cause and for the people.”

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  1. JIm

    Oh the irony....they don't realize that religion has been the largest root cause of slavery since the beginning of time. Christians used to enslave the "infedels" because they weren't going to heaven anyway since they didn't believe in Jesus. If you want to end slavery, first you must free your mind and stop believing in "holy ghosts" and all mythical religious stuff.

    January 7, 2013 at 4:33 pm |
    • Matthew

      This is so historically inaccurate but what can I expect from the typical ignorant modern day know-it-all American.

      January 7, 2013 at 5:32 pm |
  2. kayla

    I think it's a good thing But they should also be trying to end bigotry in their beliefs.

    January 7, 2013 at 4:31 pm |
  3. Tengig

    You know, I was going to make fun of the socks and towels. Because really, that's what modern day slaves are crying for, right? Then I saw the $3.1M given just by the conference goers. Well played Jesus, well played.

    January 7, 2013 at 4:30 pm |
    • Doug

      The socks and towels were for Atlanta based homeless shelters. Last year they gave so much that they had to go outside of Georgia to give them all away. Supplied many homeless shelters with enough towells and socks for all of the homeless for a whole year.

      January 7, 2013 at 5:00 pm |
  4. Milton

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioLEFRZP-_A&w=640&h=390]

    January 7, 2013 at 4:06 pm |
    • The Jackdaw

      My baloney detector just buzzed….

      January 7, 2013 at 4:07 pm |
  5. The Jackdaw

    While these guys are vowing to end slavery in places they have 0 control over, they are repressing their women and denying rights to the fruit pops. I think they should take a look closer to home first.

    January 7, 2013 at 4:03 pm |
  6. veggiedude

    Every factory farm in America is endless slavery. Nobel Prize laureate Isaac Bashevis Singer called it a holocaust.

    January 7, 2013 at 3:59 pm |
    • fintastic

      100% correct.

      January 8, 2013 at 3:21 pm |
  7. Carrie

    You've heard the below at weddings. Now, really read it.
    If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.

    4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
    8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
    13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

    This board is full of children trying to reason a mystery. Mysteries abound in this life. Faith is supernatural–it cannot be reasoned out. Many of the atheistic arguments being screamed out on these boards (the Christians seem to be screaming, too) could easily be words that I have previously uttered–blindly, childishly. But, then something mysterious happened. My prayer for each and every one of you is that you will open your hearts and know GOD (the only one, creator of heaven and earth) so that you will know the love of which this passage speaks.

    January 7, 2013 at 3:49 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      *****4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.*****

      In other words, "love" is opposite of the opposite of the christian god.

      January 7, 2013 at 3:57 pm |
    • heliocracy

      Love is a battlefield – Pat Benetar

      January 7, 2013 at 5:47 pm |
    • Memphis

      Love hurts-Nazareth

      January 10, 2013 at 10:50 pm |
  8. barbarianofgor

    How about stopping the FLOOD of "Christian" junk that's made in China, often with Chinese Christians who've been arrested, brutally beaten and sent to long prison factory terms making the trash?

    If anyone should be for "Made in the USA" and not as novelty but for serious trade barrier, tariff and end to all tax breaks/subsidies for anything made outside the USA, it should be the Christians. Problem is their "Leaders" are people that own the media outlets who make a ton off things being the same slope to oblivion they are now.

    January 7, 2013 at 3:46 pm |
  9. Rusty

    But if slavery ends then the slaves great great grandkids can't claim the government owes them for it!!!

    January 7, 2013 at 3:35 pm |
  10. bribarian

    No surprise to see all the angry atheist vultures have descended to throw dirt at good work from christians. What a bunch of hypocrites.

    January 7, 2013 at 3:21 pm |
    • bspurloc

      no surprise a story written that tries to say christians of course are supreme which they are of course.... please dont banish me

      January 7, 2013 at 3:26 pm |
    • The Jackdaw

      Two hands working are worth a million clasped in prayer.

      January 7, 2013 at 3:29 pm |
    • adh1729

      "The Jackdaw: Two hands working are worth a million clasped in prayer."

      Prayer is real dangerous, right.

      Bet the Jackdaw works constantly, both hands, 24/7/365 and never clasps a beer, a fishing pole, or anything else that might hinder his/her/its productivity. Don't pause for a second, Jackdaw.

      January 7, 2013 at 5:32 pm |
    • heliocracy

      Prayer is not dangerous. It's just pointless.

      January 7, 2013 at 5:39 pm |
    • The Jackdaw

      Yup. Pretty sure I never said it was dangerous, just a waste of time.

      January 8, 2013 at 9:40 am |
  11. Bob

    People are slaves to Christianity and irrationality. There are no gods. Grow up people.

    January 7, 2013 at 3:19 pm |
    • John

      But the Flying Spaghetti Monster boiled for your sins. Repent and may his noodley appendage touch you.

      January 7, 2013 at 3:43 pm |
    • TheTruth

      Perhaps it's time for you to grow up Bob – proof for the existence of God is overwhelming. Start with Evidence That Demands A Verdict and The Case For Christ – see if you can be the first to refute them.

      January 7, 2013 at 4:01 pm |
    • Really?

      " proof for the existence of God is overwhelming."

      No, it's not. Provide it, but we all know you can't.

      January 7, 2013 at 4:03 pm |
    • John A

      Being an athiest is an excuse to be selfish and/or being an armchair QB to do what is good.

      January 7, 2013 at 4:31 pm |
    • Rundvelt

      > Evidence That Demands A Verdict and The Case For Christ

      Been refuted, many times. Perhaps you don't want to find the answers. Also, LOL. You picked the worst apologetic book out there.

      January 7, 2013 at 4:33 pm |
    • adh1729

      Nothing can open the eyes of those who refuse to see. That is why God has a lake of fire.

      January 7, 2013 at 5:35 pm |
    • heliocracy

      Yes, because if your own children misbehave or fail to understand you, you throw them into a fire and watch them burn. Nice god you have there.

      January 7, 2013 at 5:41 pm |
    • adh1729

      "heliocracy: Yes, because if your own children misbehave or fail to understand you, you throw them into a fire and watch them burn. Nice god you have there."

      Sure, Hitler, Stalin, Ted Bundy &co just deserve a little pat on the behind. Wait a minute - that would be child abuse - I think Hitler should only be sent to time out.

      January 7, 2013 at 5:44 pm |
    • Damocles

      @adh

      Aaahahaha did you just compare Hitler and the rest with your deity?

      Another point: We are supposedly talking about an all powerful, all loving, all whatever deity. Why is it that this deity can only use human style punishments to get its point across? Can this deity think of no other way except torture and mayhem to get its point across?

      January 7, 2013 at 5:50 pm |
    • adh1729

      Damocles: "@adh Aaahahaha did you just compare Hitler and the rest with your deity?"

      Hitler was the hypothetical victim of God, he definitely was not God. Read what I wrote more carefully for a second time.

      "Another point: We are supposedly talking about an all powerful, all loving, all whatever deity. Why is it that this deity can only use human style punishments to get its point across? Can this deity think of no other way except torture and mayhem to get its point across?" NO OTHER WAY? He has many ways. For those who reject all of them, and remain obstinate, they suffer divine vengeance. You obviously haven't read the Bible.

      Ted Bundy knew what he was doing was wrong. The voice of God spoke to him through his conscience. He didn't want to listen.

      January 7, 2013 at 6:25 pm |
    • Damocles

      @adh

      'He has many ways'. Such as?

      January 7, 2013 at 6:28 pm |
  12. Steven

    I will only take Christian's sincerity to ending slavery if they ended it right from the start instead of watching it exist right in their own home for 300 years.

    January 7, 2013 at 3:10 pm |
    • lol??

      They are on a narrow path found by only a few, surrounded by kommie mommie Socialists, and a big gubmint god in washington. Pick on somebody else, Sodomite.

      January 7, 2013 at 3:47 pm |
    • heliocracy

      Jesus was a liberal. Or did you not read the Sermon on the Mount?

      January 7, 2013 at 5:42 pm |
  13. Steven

    God must be busy giving African kids AIDS that Christians had to be the ones to end slavery. So much for "All men are created equal."

    January 7, 2013 at 3:08 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      seems like he could easily make it rain in the harshest parts of africa to help millions of people... but i guess he's busy...

      January 7, 2013 at 3:11 pm |
    • bspurloc

      why would he make it rain in africa when Scientist already showed u there are massive amounts of water under africa from millions of years ago

      January 7, 2013 at 3:35 pm |
    • adh1729

      Bootyfunk: "seems like he could easily make it rain in the harshest parts of africa to help millions of people... but i guess he's busy..."

      God can do a trillion things for the human race, but they don't give a hang, spit in his face, and then want him to do something else.

      A few weeks ago 20 innocent children had their lives snuffed out and the atheists were all over it (even though their own teachings tend to encourage such events). "Why didn't God stop the shooter? How evil?" If people like you were half-consistent, the praises and thanksgiving should rise higher than the moon, for the millions of healthy and normal children in America. But no - don't give God a shred of credit for any good he has done, but harp constantly, omnisciently, on the half-empty glass.

      January 7, 2013 at 6:10 pm |
    • fintastic

      @adh1729 wrote.....

      "A few weeks ago 20 innocent children had their lives snuffed out and the atheists were all over it (even though their own teachings tend to encourage such events)."

      Teachings?... ......... Time to raise the ignorant flag you simpleton............. moron.......

      January 8, 2013 at 3:35 pm |
  14. Paul

    Evil. More than one atheist on this board has had the audacity to call God out on His morality. Ha! What a farce. Why would a true atheist care about morality? Are you insinuating that there is an absolute truth? There are certainly questions I have and will ask why God at the appropriate time why He does what He does, but I do not presume to know the mind of God.

    January 7, 2013 at 2:47 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      And you have more than once run away from threads to bitch about it on another thread.

      January 7, 2013 at 2:54 pm |
    • Paul

      lol, this is the only thread I've posted on today. It must be pretty obvious to other people this common flaw in your logic.

      January 7, 2013 at 2:58 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Paul

      You mean this is the only article you've been on. Do you know what you're talking about, ever?

      January 7, 2013 at 2:59 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      you are presuming to know the mind of god if you say he's good and not evil, aren't you? LOL.

      replace the word 'god' with 'easter bunny' and see how silly that sounds. it sounds just as silly if you leave the word 'god' in for us. your god is made-up, just like all the others.

      and we do question your fake god's morality - he drowned babies in his great flood. he also drowned the elderly, physically disabled, mentally challenged, infirm, etc. god is the biggest mass murdered ever, if his fairy tale were true. god drowned babies - how can you get past that? how can you worship a god that would murder children and call it divine justice? there had to have been babies on earth that were born that same day he let the waters loose. babies that were only hours old were evil enough to be killed? how can you worship such a maniac?

      January 7, 2013 at 3:00 pm |
    • JJ

      All atheists I know are more decent and moral than most Christians I know. You sound like the typical arrogant judging imbecile Christian who I most despise.

      January 7, 2013 at 3:07 pm |
    • bspurloc

      first logical flaw to logic is believing in fairy tales....
      is jesus staring in the new Zombie movie? world warZ? how about Warm Bodies?

      January 7, 2013 at 3:37 pm |
    • Jim P.

      You don't need a god if there are absolute truths. If the only reason something is moral is because your god says so, how real is that? Your god has ordered some horribly nasty deeds to be done.

      It's called the "Euthyphro dilemma" and dates back to Plato and Socrates:

      "As Leibniz presents this version of the dilemma: "It is generally agreed that whatever God wills is good and just. But there remains the question whether it is good and just because God wills it or whether God wills it because it is good and just; in other words, whether justice and goodness are arbitrary or whether they belong to the necessary and eternal truths about the nature of things."+

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthyphro_dilemma

      This was sorted out a long time before Christianity: If something is moral only because god says so, then morality is arbitrary and subject to the whim of the god. If there is an absolute morality then you do not need a god to tell you what it is.

      January 7, 2013 at 3:37 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Why shouldn't your god get called out on his immorality Paul?

      January 7, 2013 at 3:37 pm |
    • heliocracy

      Why would he condemn his own children to eternal torture simply because they don't believe? Is it ego? Would you throw your children into the fireplace if they misbehaved? No? Doesn't that mean you have a higher morality than your god?

      January 7, 2013 at 5:44 pm |
    • adh1729

      "heliocracy-Why would he condemn his own children to eternal torture"

      The Bible does not teach eternal torture. The wages of sin is DEATH, not ETERNAL LIFE IN TORTURE.

      God's standard of vengeance was clearly explained in the law of Moses: an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, NOT an infinite number of teeth for a tooth. The servant that knew his Lord's will and did it not is beaten with many stripes, NOT an infinite number of stripes.

      Funny how you folks think that you need to teach God what is right and just – blasted stupidity – he gave you your brain, how are you going to teach him?

      "He that teaches man knowledge, shall not He know?"

      January 7, 2013 at 5:55 pm |
    • adh1729

      Bootyfunk: "and we do question your fake god's morality – he drowned babies in his great flood. he also drowned the elderly, physically disabled, mentally challenged, infirm, etc. god is the biggest mass murdered ever, if his fairy tale were true. god drowned babies – how can you get past that? how can you worship a god that would murder children and call it divine justice? there had to have been babies on earth that were born that same day he let the waters loose. babies that were only hours old were evil enough to be killed? how can you worship such a maniac?"

      You will be consistent when you atheists pull Harry Truman's remains out of his grave and descrate them. Funny, Americans turned on Truman when he fired MacArthur, not when he had atomic weapons used on innocent men, women, and children in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

      How come you atheists never put 2+2 together in such a manner as I have? Too busy getting to the bottom line – "God is wicked and/or does not exist"?

      January 7, 2013 at 6:03 pm |
    • Damocles

      @adh

      Look, that's the whole point... Truman was human, people are human. You offer up a supposedly all everything deity and it acts like a... human. Oddly it resorts to the same punishments and reacts the same way as a person would when confronted by adversity. It lashes out.

      You offer up the Supreme Spoiled Child and try to claim it is better.

      January 7, 2013 at 6:10 pm |
    • Saraswati

      Most people who don't believe in god have moral systems. Aside from obvious religions groups, like atheistic buddhists, people may be utlitarians, or believe in Kant's categorical imperitive or belong to any number of humanist belief systems. It's are rare person who is just an "atheist"...that's just a description of one's position with relation to the concept of a god. If you query an atheist deeper they will tell you that they are "an atheistic humanist" or "atheistic Buddhist" or "atheistic rule utilitarian" . Because religions encompass both metaphysics and ethics you only need one label, but once one is using the "atheist" label they will need another to describe their ethics. The only way to know one's ethical system is to ask.

      January 7, 2013 at 6:11 pm |
  15. kevobx

    Find the word culture in the biblical scripture! It is against the law to tell the truth, ask any lawyer Not half truths, not bear truths, but the whole truth. Grace and truth, makes the devil flee!

    January 7, 2013 at 2:21 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      just as education and facts make christians flee...

      January 7, 2013 at 2:23 pm |
  16. Bootyfunk

    the bible supports slavery throughout, making this article a pretty funny joke. jesus tells slaves to obey their masters:

    Luke
    37 "Blessed are those slaves whom the master will find on the alert when he comes; truly I say to you, that he will gird himself to serve, and have them recline at the table, and will come up and wait on them.
    38 "Whether he comes in the second watch, or even in the third, and finds them so, blessed are those slaves.”

    47 And that servant, who knew his lord's will, and made not ready, nor did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes;
    48 but he that knew not, and did things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. And to whomsoever much is given, of him shall much be required: and to whom they commit much, of him will they ask the more.

    disgusting.

    disgusting. not exactly a loving a compassionate guy...

    January 7, 2013 at 2:20 pm |
    • Paul

      The scripture you took out of context is in Luke chapter 12...I encourage all to read the WHOLE chapter which has Christ telling parables of how we should behave in this life and how we will be judged by our master (God) after this life. SMOKE SCREEN

      January 7, 2013 at 2:32 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      i have read the whole thing. i took nothing out of context, just didn't want to copy and paste a book here. jesus is telling slaves to obey their basters. he talks about whipping slaves that do not do as they are told - that's not a parable, that's instructions. but let me humor you for a minute... would you use a parable with slavery as the example if you didn't believe in slavery? would you use make up a parable about child molestation to prove a point about something good? of course not, unless you believed child molestation was okay.

      stop sugar coating the bible. god tells his servants in the bible to take slaves of their enemies - how is that not promoting slavery? you are like many christians that ignore or even change something in the bible because you don't like it. be honest with yourself as you read the bible and see that the bible supports slavery throughout.

      January 7, 2013 at 2:38 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      Is "smoke screen" your favorite cop-out to use?

      January 7, 2013 at 2:39 pm |
    • lol??

      bootsie cutsie, how 'bout an antichrist hymn?

      January 7, 2013 at 2:42 pm |
    • Paul

      Jesus used parables which were common to everyone. Slavery was very common and relevant to Christ's teaching of how we are to treat each other. You guys read it your way and deem it evil...ironic that you cast a moral high ground.

      January 7, 2013 at 2:42 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Paul

      When it comes to the god of the bible, I would definitely take the moral high ground all day everyday and twice on Sunday, even in a church.

      January 7, 2013 at 2:45 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      so jesus used a parable about the most evil inst.itution man has ever inflicted no man - slavery - to get a point across about being good to god? slavery, which always includes r.ape and eventually murder? you would think an all-knowing god would get that right, wouldn't you? but the bible never says a bad thing about slavery - only good things about owning other humans. there are rules for selling your own daughter into slavery in the bible. wouldn't you think an all-loving god would include in his commandments, "do not own another human being - it is wrong and the ultimate evil"? but nope, that's not in the 10 commandments. don't lie is, but not don't own humans. weird.

      unless.... the bible is just a book written by men that thought the earth was flat and slavery was good. unless there is no god and the bible is just a book written by men that were products of their time. see how nicely that fits?

      January 7, 2013 at 2:49 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Paul,

      I don't care what context that is from, using the threat of violence, even in a parable, is not moral because the actual threat of violence comes from your "loving" god.

      January 7, 2013 at 3:51 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      'SMOKE SCREEN'

      dont tell us, tell the christians that used the bible to justfiy slavery for so long.

      January 7, 2013 at 3:54 pm |
  17. Paul

    An atheist's internal battle is not whether God exists, but whether or not they want to serve the known God. Even lucifer believes in God, he just choses not to serve Him.

    January 7, 2013 at 2:13 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      except that yahweh is made-up, similar to the 1000s of gods that came before him. so you're serving a human ideal, not a god. and lucifer is made-up, too. all mythologies have a good guy and a bad guy, christianity is no different.

      try thinking for yourself - it's not overrated!

      January 7, 2013 at 2:19 pm |
    • Paul

      Some people's thinking is overrated. Yes, many many madeup Gods. This is where thinking helps to choose which scripture/writing is correct. The God of the Bible seems to me the most logical as the God of gods. I would suggest a book for you to ponder on. "Mere Christianity" by C. S. Lewis. If you can read that is.

      January 7, 2013 at 2:23 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      i've read Lewis. hot air and fluff. tries and fails to bring a logical line of thinking to the subject. and which scripture is correct? lol, you're just choosing the one that your parents picked for you, the one this country has chosen for you. how does the christian god seem any more logical than zeus, ra or odin? your god is just as silly as any that came before him.

      unclasp your hands. get up off your knees. think for yourself and realize there is no sky-fairy. go outside and put those hands to use helping others. congratulations, you're now a better person.

      January 7, 2013 at 2:27 pm |
    • Bob

      Paul, why does your ompotent sky fairy need "service"? That's a rather pathetic god that you've made for yourself there. Actually, your god does not even exist.

      January 7, 2013 at 2:30 pm |
    • Paul

      Sure, C.S. Lewis is full of hot air :-) He was an atheist like you remember. Enough pearls to the swine. I hope you both see the light and write you own books some day.

      January 7, 2013 at 2:39 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      an atheist that joined a cult and stopped thinking critically. you can keep him. i suggest you read hitchens and dawkins for a more thought-out and reasoned argument.

      January 7, 2013 at 2:44 pm |
    • Paul

      Dawkins is such a light weight. I'd take Ravi Zacharias' logic over his any day.

      January 7, 2013 at 2:50 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      btw, have you read lewis? exactly what part of his argument for god did you find convincing? what part of his argument is original?

      January 7, 2013 at 2:51 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      please show any logic argument ANYone has had for the existence of god. instead of just naming people, talk about their actual argument/point of view. what did they say that you find so convincing?

      January 7, 2013 at 2:53 pm |
    • Bob

      Paul, show some courage and try to answer my question instead of dodging. We're familiar with the smokescreens you are trying to use, from so many other cowardly Christians here.

      January 7, 2013 at 3:16 pm |
    • bspurloc

      Mental Midget

      January 7, 2013 at 3:39 pm |
    • Really??

      Paul
      C. S. Lewis was not an athesit. He was a christian apologist, who studied many religions in many forms, but at no time was he an atheist.

      January 7, 2013 at 3:42 pm |
    • Jim P.

      Which "known god"? Mankind has invented thousands over the years. If I went by popularity, I'd have to choose Hindu, if I went by rapid growth, it might be Mormon (or Islam), if by proven success in invoking their god's help, it's be Islam (Twelve people prayed "god" to help them bring down the WTC towers and the towers fell, despite millions of Christians praying for them not to, as tens of millions of people saw the plane hit the second tower on TV and the aftermath.)

      January 7, 2013 at 3:44 pm |
  18. But Slavery is Bible Approved!

    Silly Christians. They allow divorce – which is expressly prohibited, but want to ban slavery, which is Bible Approved!

    January 7, 2013 at 2:05 pm |
    • Rachel

      Ignorance.

      January 7, 2013 at 2:26 pm |
    • lol??

      Marital bliss is controlled by the Beast.

      January 7, 2013 at 2:43 pm |
    • bspurloc

      only the kings breakaway chrsitians support Divorce.... roman catholic ones just ignore those rules and keep eating the body of christ

      January 7, 2013 at 3:40 pm |
    • fintastic

      The bible.. the great book of pick-n-choose. ..... one word.... MYTHOLOGY.

      January 7, 2013 at 3:47 pm |
  19. IslandAtheist

    Darwin was the great emancipator,

    January 7, 2013 at 2:00 pm |
    • Paul

      Hitler relied heavily on Darwin's principles to exterminate the weak...I would not call that freedom.

      January 7, 2013 at 2:20 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      hitler relied on christianity even more. hitler in his book, mein kampf, talks about his mission from god to kill the jews. nazi belt buckles read, "with god's might" or something like that. hitler was a christian.

      January 7, 2013 at 2:22 pm |
    • Bob

      Paul, your evil bible obviously condones slavery, and presents your god as instructing men to torture and rape. I wouldn't call that freedom either. I'd call it human rights abuse and worse. Please, give your religion some fair, critical examination instead of dumping your hackneyed old nonsense on us.

      Take a look at these "loving" chestnuts, or many others like them in the bible, both OT and NT:
      Numbers 31:17-18
      17 Now kiII all the boys. And kiII every woman who has slept with a man,
      18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

      Deuteronomy 13:6 – “If your brother, your mother’s son or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul entice you secretly, saying, let us go and serve other gods … you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death”

      Revelations 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

      Leviticus 25
      44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves.
      45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.
      46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

      Note that the bible is also very clear that you should sacrifice and burn an animal today because the smell makes sicko Christian sky fairy happy. No, you don't get to use the parts for food. You burn them, a complete waste of the poor animal.

      Yes, the bible really says that, everyone. Yes, it's in Leviticus, look it up. Yes, Jesus purportedly said that the OT commands still apply. No exceptions. But even if you think the OT was god's mistaken first go around, you have to ask why a perfect, loving enti-ty would ever put such horrid instructions in there. If you think rationally at all, that is.

      And then, if you disagree with my interpretation, ask yourself how it is that your "god" couldn't come up with a better way to communicate than a book that is so readily subject to so many interpretations and to being taken "out of context", and has so many mistakes in it. Pretty pathetic god that you've made for yourself.

      So get out your sacrificial knife or your nasty sky creature will torture you eternally. Or just take a closer look at your foolish supersti-tions, understand that they are just silly, and toss them into the dustbin with all the rest of the gods that man has created.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement. Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.

      http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

      January 7, 2013 at 2:34 pm |
    • TheTruth

      In the end, even Darwin didn't believe in his theory.

      January 7, 2013 at 4:06 pm |
    • Sue

      TheTruth posted a falsehood, as usual. That story is known as the Lady Hope Story (just google it) and it was debunked by Darwin's relatives who were present at his deathbed. He did not recant his theory.

      January 7, 2013 at 4:10 pm |
    • Sue

      Darwin's theory has now been proven repeatedly in the lab in experiments spanning many generations of fast-breeding creatures. It is among the most solidly supported science that we have. For comparison, there is no support in actual evidence for creationism. None whatsoever.

      January 7, 2013 at 4:13 pm |
  20. rad666

    Good. While they are at it, have the Catholic Church return all the stuff they stole when they sponsored the Crusades.

    January 7, 2013 at 1:56 pm |
    • Zandigra

      Just as soon as you white Americans pay reparations to black folks for slavery.

      January 7, 2013 at 5:54 pm |
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