home
RSS
Bucking previous trends, survey finds growth of the religiously unaffiliated slowing
January 10th, 2013
01:30 PM ET

Bucking previous trends, survey finds growth of the religiously unaffiliated slowing

By Dan Merica, CNN

Washington (CNN) – After years of marked growth, the size of Americans who identify with no religion slowed in 2012, according to a study released Thursday.

Since 2008, the percentage of Americans who identify as religious "nones" has grown from 14.6% to 17.8% in 2012, according to the Gallup survey. That number, which grew nearly one percentage point every year from 2008 to 2011, grew only 0.3% last year – from 17.5% in 2011 to 17.8% in 2012 – making it the smallest increase over the past five years.

This study contrasts with headlines from previous studies on religious “nones,” including a 2012 study by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life that found the group was the fastest growing "religious" group in America and that one in five Americans now identify with no religion.

“Although this ‘rise of the nones’ has increased dramatically over recent decades, the rate of increase slowed last year, suggesting the possibility that there may be a leveling off in this measure in the years ahead,” reports the Gallup study, which is made up of more than 350,000 interviews.

Frank Newport, editor-in-chief of Gallup, says these results suggest “that religion may be maintaining itself or even increasing in the years ahead.”

“Our current ability to look at it over five years with these big surveys suggests the possibility that the growth [of the nones] may not be inexorable,” Newport says.

CNN Belief Blog: Christmas exposes atheist divide on dealing with religion

In his book, “God is Alive and Well: The Future of Religion in America,” Newport argues that a number of factors, including baby boomers reaching senior ages, migration to more religious states, recognition of health and well being of religion and an increase in a Hispanic population, are all reasons that “we are going to continue to have a quite religious nation going forward.”

Atheist and humanist activists disagree and pushed back against the Gallup study.

“The truth is, it doesn't really matter whether one of these surveys – even a big one like Gallup – shows the number leveling off a bit this past year,” Greg Epstein, humanist chaplain at Harvard University, says. “First of all, the numbers for young Americans are still dramatically higher, and secondly, it is beyond dispute now that the "nones" are one of the largest demographic groups in the United States, and we're going to stay that way for a long, long time.”

The Gallup study also found that 27% of Americans age 18 to 29 identified as religious nones, making the age group the largest subgroup in the study. The finding tracks with other studies on religious nones, many of which have found the growth among the religiously unaffiliated has been most notable among people who are 18 to 29 years old.

“There's no slowing here at the Secular Student Alliance. We're up to 394 campus groups from 310 a year ago,” Jesse Galef, communications director at the organization, says in response to the survey. “You can see the religious future of America just by looking at the demographics: Young Americans (18-29) are almost three times as likely to be unaffiliated with religion than senior citizens are.”

In particular, Galef points out, the Secular Student Alliance has experienced growth in ages below 18, an age group that Gallup did not survey. In the last year, says Galef, the number of Secular Student Alliance affiliates at high schools doubled to 60 campuses.

CNN Belief Blog: My take: 'Atheist' isn’t a dirty word, congresswoman

News of strong growth among nones had long been heralded by their community.

As study after study began to report that religious nones in America were growing, many atheist, agnostic and humanist activists began to stress the need for these relative non-believers to come together and turn their numbers into political and social influence. Though some leaders split on what wielding that influence would look like, the size of religious nones became the impetus for many leaders to call for more recognition.

In response to the Gallup study, those calls continued.

“The real question now is when are our historically large numbers going to start turning into more votes and influence,” Epstein says. “The nones can become a steady and inspiring powerhouse in American life if we focus on what we do believe in.”

And even though the Gallup study found a relative leveling off of growth among the nones, David Silverman, the president of America Atheists, says he finds the survey “not at all troubling.”

“This underscores what American Atheists has been saying for years - that every person in America knows more nonreligious people than they think they know,” Silverman says. “America has to get used to the fact that atheists are everywhere, you already know us, and we are a vibrant and growing portion of society.”

- Dan Merica

Filed under: Atheism • Belief • Nones

soundoff (1,615 Responses)
  1. Magilla

    Having grown up in Christianity and experiencing firsthand some of its various iterations, i.e., Baptist, Presbyterian, and Methodist, and spending the effort reading up on others in an attempt to comprehend their core logic, it became apparent to even me, a young and knowledge-seeking individual, that religion is nothing more than a man-made concept – whatever flavor you subscribe to. As a child, I knew nothing more than what I was taught, as no child can. However, when a child begins questioning illogical, contradicting precepts, the first thing they do is ask the adults in their life whom they have trust in why that is so. Unfortunately, those very adults know nothing more than what they’ve been taught; and it becomes a vicious cycle of misunderstanding, misinformation, and a precarious balancing act between what we want so desperately to believe is true and what common-sense logic accepts as being true.
    No one living today (or the past two thousand years – or so) has personally met any so-called deity, as described in the many religious tomes; nor has anyone living today any idea what lies beyond the grave – even those who claim otherwise; because, like any other living being today, no one has actually died and returned to describe their experiences, whether good or bad. I am not referring to those who have been declared clinically dead in the operating room, for a brief time, and then resuscitated; no, I mean someone who has been declared legally dead, say for at least three days – on a cold slab in a morgue, under a sheet. Hell, let’s throw in post-mortem autopsy, just to make it real.
    We, as humans, have a deep hunger to know what happens to us after death; so much so that whole empires have been built upon it. All religions are crafted around this one, innate desire to be immortal – to never have to die and be lost forever as the individual we have created within ourselves. There has to be an immense incentive for the common people to submit their lives, their children’s lives, to a belief system that can promise them something positive after death. However, even those who ply their trade in religion know that they cannot evade the inevitability of death. It has been the most sought-after (and unobtainable) grail in human existence, which is where the concept of religion comes into play. Early on, I dare say back to the point Man became self-aware, the concept of an all-knowing, omnipotent, father figure who could intervene on their behalf in their pitiful and harsh existence took root. And, it became evident even then that in proclaiming to know certain things that others didn’t, one could gain respect, awe, fear – wealth. And it is with those basic motivations that one religion after another sprang up to control the masses, and allow those in control to become revered – and rich. Not a bad field to get into back in those days – not even today. It cannot be argued that religion, in any form, is not a money-maker. In truth, if it were not for money and death, most religions couldn’t survive.

    January 11, 2013 at 7:45 am |
    • alura

      Agreed...key word: MAN. Thank you!

      January 11, 2013 at 7:51 am |
    • alura

      Oh if I may add one thing, fear. Fear of death and "hell" and keeping the populace in line. Don't' forget that. Remeber that "heaven" sounds alot like Earth. If we ask some devout person what heaven looks like, it sounds alot like the Bahamas.

      January 11, 2013 at 7:55 am |
    • TESLAvision

      I borrowed the last part, and posted to my FB page, if you dont mind...

      January 11, 2013 at 8:47 am |
  2. Darth Cheney

    First, it's just one poll. Second, it still showed an increase. Third, the poll was conducted by Gallup, which did a very poor job in predicting the 2012 election. Fourth, Gallup's editor-in-chief has an over-the-top conflict of interest. Fifth, even if the results were accurate, then at 17.8% now and .3% increase per year, there will be no belief in God by 2286. Assuming a bunch of religious fanatics haven't destroyed the world in the name of God by then...

    January 11, 2013 at 7:39 am |
    • cm

      Darth no religious fanatics will destroy the world it will be greed or power/control that will end the world. Check your facts. Religious wars since recorded times has been the 'reason' for only 7% or less of wars on this planet. A non-believer is more likely to destroy this planet. They don't feel they have to answer to anyone but their own agendas and egos.

      January 11, 2013 at 7:49 am |
    • AGeek

      cm. 7% of wars. Beg pardon? Where'd you invent that number from? Even assuming it's correct, what percentage of war fatalities occurred in those wars? WWII was certainly driven by religion (Hitler was Catholic) and was responsible for the slaughter of millions!

      January 11, 2013 at 7:53 am |
    • cm

      AGeek, the slaughter of Jews was not an elimination of religion, but of a certain ethnic group – learn the facts about this. Hitler hated the race not the religion since he eliminated families who were Jews by birth, however were Catholics, Lutherans or athesist. Secondly the fact of 7% is easily explored in this reference, "Encyclopedia of Wars" by Charles Phillips and Alan Axelrod

      January 11, 2013 at 7:59 am |
    • Ace

      @cm
      Just wanted to point out that religion, greed and the desire for power and control are not mutually exclusive.
      Not at all.
      Also, can we measure by war duration? Because I hear of a little religious conflict around some holy lands in the middle east that has been going on now for a day or two...

      January 11, 2013 at 8:04 am |
    • GordonHide

      @cm
      Not withstanding the immediate cause of a conflict, religion along with language, culture, ethnic characteristics and nationality often serve to delineate "us" from "them" and use the difference to dehumanise the enemy.

      January 11, 2013 at 11:09 am |
    • End Religion

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

      Hitler was raised Catholic. In his book Mein Kampf and in public speeches he made statements affirming a belief in Christianity. He called the purge of Jews "positive Christianity." While there is debate over his actual private feelings about the faith, he was a publicly practicing Christian. There exists no known evidence that Hitler was an atheist or agnostic. Again: evidence he was Christian; no evidence he was otherwise.

      Hitler said: "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

      The Reichskonkordat was a treaty signed on 20 July 1933 between the Holy See (Catholic Church) and Nazi Germany, guaranteeing the rights of the Roman Catholic Church in Germany, giving moral legitimacy to the Nazi regime soon after Hitler had acquired dictatorial powers, and placing constraints on Catholic critics of the regime, leading to a muted response by the Church to Nazi policies. Yes, the Catholic Church colluded with Nazis.

      January 11, 2013 at 5:22 pm |
  3. Abrondon

    1. Atheists strongly believe the best available evidence supports their position. 2. Theists strongly believe the best available evidence supports their position. Conclusion: For either position, one can find self-convincing justification. Upon death, 1. If atheists are right, they will never know it. 2. If theists are wrong, they will never know it. 3. If atheists are wrong, they will know it. 4. If theists are right, they will know it. BY FAR the most satisfactory position is 4. BY FAR the most dangerous position is 3.

    January 11, 2013 at 7:32 am |
    • Darth Cheney

      Thank you for making the case for agnosticism. Both theists and atheists believe in something that can't be proven.

      January 11, 2013 at 7:40 am |
    • TESLAvision

      please, dont mind us... just keep your faith and keep the lies and fairytales to yourselves... mmmkay?

      January 11, 2013 at 7:41 am |
    • Ace

      Gotta love the "insurance policy" argument.
      Nevermind that it fails to account for the actual actions of the person (whether believer or not) and the minor detail of the existence of all the other religions.
      Oh well...

      January 11, 2013 at 7:59 am |
    • roadrunner321

      Thanks for the rehash of Pascal's Wager, but it's not simply a question of believing or not believing in a god. It's believing in ONE specific god out of an endless list of religions, or no god at all. The two are not equivalent choices.

      You also mistake faith as something that a person can just choose to have. And is it really faith if you believe solely to get the reward at the end? You can go to Heaven just for being an opportunist?

      January 11, 2013 at 8:13 am |
    • Primewonk

      Pascal's Gambit, which you posit, was refuted as soon as he postulated it.

      The fallacy is that it assumes a one-off situation – that is, it is your version of a god vs no god. However, we have invented 10,000 gods in the 200,000 years we have been modern humans. If some other version of a god is real, and you have chosen to not worship it, you are then just as damned as the folks you have been damning.

      January 11, 2013 at 8:21 am |
    • Cody

      So you plagiarized Pascal's Wager. You could at least cite it. You may want to look up the refutations of Pascal's Wager as well.

      January 11, 2013 at 8:39 am |
    • Michael

      My younger brother once asked me a similar question. "What if you're wrong? What's wrong with believing so that, if you're right, you haven't lost anything?" My point is that if I convert (what a misnomer) and he's wrong, I've spent my entire life as a lie. I'm sorry, but the only person/thing I'm responsible to is that reflection in the mirror. I refuse to live my life as a lie. End Of Line.

      January 11, 2013 at 9:55 am |
    • cedar rapids

      'Upon death, 1. If atheists are right, they will never know it. 2. If theists are wrong, they will never know it. 3. If atheists are wrong, they will know it. 4. If theists are right, they will know it. BY FAR the most satisfactory position is 4. BY FAR the most dangerous position is 3.'

      If the theists worship the wrong god then they are just as s crewed as everyone else so you need to add the option of worshipping every god just to cover the bases.

      January 11, 2013 at 11:37 am |
  4. Ace

    Wasn’t Gallup completely off about the last presidential election? I highly doubt there is going to be a religous awakening anytime soon.

    January 11, 2013 at 7:30 am |
    • TESLAvision

      Exactly, i dont see how they concluded "religion may increase" with the largest group of "nones" are 18-29.... i guess they dont take into account that those folks will have kids of their own, who will more than likely be taught logical/critical thinking and how to evaluate tangible evidence of the universe we live in.

      January 11, 2013 at 7:44 am |
  5. cm

    Atheists, nor agnostics agendas will ever prevail. The light always pierces the darkness or gray muck.

    January 11, 2013 at 7:29 am |
    • Darth Cheney

      Except that you have no idea which side is light, dark, or mucky.

      January 11, 2013 at 7:42 am |
    • Ace

      Would you care to "enlighten" us as to what exactly the Atheist agenda is?

      January 11, 2013 at 8:06 am |
    • Michael

      The darkness you speak of is due to your own blindness. Pull your head out and see the world for what it is: after the first Plank Second (1 x 10 -43 second) everything that has transpired is described/explained by physics and mathematics ... no supernatural intervention required.

      January 11, 2013 at 10:00 am |
  6. Reality

    This should help to cure those still suffering from the Three B Syndrome i.e. Bred, Born and Brainwashed in religion:

    Only for the new members of this blog:

    Putting the kibosh on all religion in less than ten seconds: Priceless !!!

    • As far as one knows or can tell, there was no Abraham i.e. the foundations of Judaism, Christianity and Islam are non-existent.

    • As far as one knows or can tell, there was no Moses i.e the pillars of Judaism, Christianity and Islam have no strength of purpose.

    • There was no Gabriel i.e. Islam fails as a religion. Christianity partially fails.

    • There was no Easter i.e. Christianity completely fails as a religion.

    • There was no Moroni i.e. Mormonism is nothing more than a business cult.

    • Sacred/revered cows, monkey gods, castes, reincarnations and therefore Hinduism fails as a religion.

    • Fat Buddhas here, skinny Buddhas there, reincarnated/reborn Buddhas everywhere makes for a no on Buddhism.

    Added details are available on p. 9.

    Please forward this cure to any of your sick relatives or friends.

    January 11, 2013 at 7:03 am |
    • Chris

      You lost me at "as far as anyone knows"....that means nothing.

      January 11, 2013 at 7:21 am |
    • Chris

      Oh, and you don't need to believe in God to be Buddist. So you should really think about your definition of "religion".

      January 11, 2013 at 7:23 am |
    • Reality

      Chris,

      You obviously did not scroll back to p. 9. e.g. See the New Torah for Modern Minds.

      January 11, 2013 at 12:18 pm |
  7. Steve Wilson, Canada

    Bottom line –

    Without religion there would be (almost) no arguing, no fighting and no war.

    Am I wrong?

    January 11, 2013 at 6:33 am |
    • the AnViL

      yup...you're wrong.

      in our diverse world of dwindling natural resources, there is already so much division... religion is just one (big) thing that divides humanity.

      religion justifies a lot of wars and a lot of killing...but not all of it.

      January 11, 2013 at 7:12 am |
    • Chris

      Yes you are. It's not religion itself it's difference that we fight over, nation states, color of skin, rich and poor, fat and skinny, man and women, old and young, etc. etc. fighting and death over all these issues. If it's only religion you blame then it's a personal agenda.

      January 11, 2013 at 7:19 am |
    • Darth Cheney

      Speaking as an agnostic, you probably are. Because nearly every large and modern society has been affiliated with at least one religion, there is no counterfactual available to test your hypothesis. You really can't go back to clans and tribes because they don't have other problems related to population that cause war. While I believe, like you, that religion does make war more likely and more bloody, there is no way to prove it.

      January 11, 2013 at 7:32 am |
    • OIL & GOLD

      @SWC another part of war!
      Were Does All Earth's Gold Come From? NOT G-od
      Precious Metals the Result of Meteorite Bombardment, Rock Analysis Finds

      Sep. 9, 2011 — Ultra high precision analyses of some of the oldest rock samples on Earth by researchers at the University of Bristol provides clear evidence that the planet's accessible reserves of precious metals are the result of a bombardment of meteorites more than 200 million years after Earth was formed.

      Dr Willbold continued: "Our work shows that most of the precious metals on which our economies and many key industrial processes are based have been added to our planet by lucky coincidence when the Earth was hit by about 20 billion tonnes of asteroidal material."

      January 11, 2013 at 7:40 am |
    • Bible Clown©

      "Am I wrong?" We would just fight to the death over East Coast rap vs West Coast rap without religion to distract us.

      January 11, 2013 at 7:49 am |
    • Oil Gold Water

      OIL & GOLD around 200 million years after earth form.

      Were Does All Earth's Gold Come From? NOT G-od
      Precious Metals the Result of Meteorite Bombardment, Rock Analysis Finds

      Sep. 9, 2011 — Ultra high precision analyses of some of the oldest rock samples on Earth by researchers at the University of Bristol provides clear evidence that the planet's accessible reserves of precious metals are the result of a bombardment of meteorites more than 200 million years after Earth was formed.

      Dr Willbold continued: "Our work shows that most of the precious metals on which our economies and many key industrial processes are based have been added to our planet by lucky coincidence when the Earth was hit by about 20 billion tonnes of asteroidal material."

      January 11, 2013 at 7:57 am |
    • Ace

      Sadly, yes, you are wrong.
      Get 6 people together and try to decide where to go for dinner...
      Mankind will always know conflict even on the simplest things.
      It's as sad a part of our nature as anything else.

      January 11, 2013 at 8:08 am |
    • Michael

      @Oil & Gold – You didn't go far enough back. Every atom that make up this planet, every plant, every creature above hydrogen (and a small percentage of helium) was formed in the belly of a dying star, including the gold. Every bit of material that made up this planet came from bombardment, before, during and after the collision that led to the formation of the moon. So your statement is irrelevant and misleading.

      January 11, 2013 at 10:07 am |
    • cedar rapids

      well it wouldnt disappear completely but yes, it would certainly drop dramatically, thats a given.

      January 11, 2013 at 11:38 am |
  8. happyfrenchman

    Humanist chaplain.... what is that?

    January 11, 2013 at 6:14 am |
    • Darth Cheney

      A chaplain who believes in moral conduct that benefits humanity. Pretty simple, actually, and much more reasonable than an anti-humanist chaplain.

      January 11, 2013 at 7:33 am |
  9. Jonline

    Kind of a dumb poll. I am Catholic but I am not at all religious. If you asked me what religion I was I would answer Catholic. If you asked me if I was religious, I would say no. To me being Catholic is no different than claiming an ethnic heritage.

    January 11, 2013 at 6:09 am |
  10. Stev

    Ann Coulter is pure EVIL incarnate! All I wish is for freedom-FROM religion!

    January 11, 2013 at 5:16 am |
  11. Casey

    Right, wrong or indifferent, some people still need religion. There are those that fear uncertainty. The belief that there is something more than this short life is a blessing for those who fear the unknown. As long as religious beliefs lack the zealotry that infringe upon other lives, their freedom rings just as true as anyone else's.

    January 11, 2013 at 4:00 am |
  12. S-3B Viking

    @ Chad....

    How dare you offend my faith....

    But to answer your weak thinking, we of The Last Unicorn (also known as Unicornian Universalists), who believe that we are the chosen, do not demand of our elected represent-tives that there be a Consti-tutional Amendment banning:

    A mule from marrying a unicorn
    Two consenting male unicorns from having a little horn play
    And from preventing the reading of "The Last Unicorn" in High School Algebra classes

    Plus, we do not kill Large Animal Vets or bomb Veterinary Clinics when they murder our precious unborn folds...(besides, that damn horn usually induces a spontaneous abortion, reducing their numbers).

    Thus, we do not spark the attention of the evil, Unicorn-forsaken Aunicornists who blaspheme the very name of Unicorn and Her only begotten daughter, Lady Amalthea....

    But we wait for that great (horned) trumpet sound when we know that the Unicorn will set up Her 950 year reign just east of Portland and will cast all those pesky Aunicornists into the Lake Ponchartrain where they'll burn from that wicked 98% humidity for all eternity.

    January 11, 2013 at 3:41 am |
  13. arvay

    Religion is an inadequate - to use polite language - way of understanding the world and even ourselves. If we look across the globe and history, it's clear that there are multiple, irreconcilable versions of the "creator." If he/she exists - why not reveal itself simultaneously to everyone and settle ll the disputes?

    Because no such being exists.

    Religion is harmful because it trains people to believe thongs with no proof. That's the foundation of bigotry and ignorance.

    January 11, 2013 at 3:27 am |
    • dave

      So you hate people that are religious or just feel superior to them?

      January 11, 2013 at 4:43 am |
    • Kev

      So, you point out that there are so many versions or ideas as to who or what God is and yet you automatically conclude that if there is a God that God would provide undisputable proof of existence as if you know what a supposed omnipotent and omniscient being would do?

      January 11, 2013 at 5:01 am |
    • S-3B Viking

      @ Kev

      Why wouldn't he/she/it? More importantly, considering the God that Christians believe in and all the characteristics attributed to him, why wouldn't he?

      Why the game by not doing so?

      "Faith" or "Because he's God and I'm not" or "God's ways are mysterious" are answers, but they are thought-less answers...so why do you think he should or shouldn't?

      January 11, 2013 at 5:11 am |
    • Chris

      Personally, I've never believed a thong in my life.

      January 11, 2013 at 6:37 am |
    • Kev

      @Viking, If you are going to speculate then you are doing just that, speculating. The problem with speculating is that it doesn't always bring the right answer. Now if you're wondering what I am speculating, in this case I'll give you my belief; and that is that the game has to do with the purpose of life. To see if we, when or if given the chance, are willing to follow God on our own accord, and not merely because we have to.

      January 11, 2013 at 10:01 am |
    • S-3B Viking

      @ Kev

      Thanks for your thoughts...I respect your view. But for me, for God to "want to see" at the cost of unimaginable suffering is simply immoral. Especially since he is supposedly omniscient even in the context of free will.

      Of course, when I was a Christian and someone said what I just said, i would shrug my shoulders and say "Our ways are not His."

      Again, thanks for your response.

      January 11, 2013 at 11:02 am |
    • Kev

      @ Viking, You're welcome I appreciate your response, and your right about that I don't know why there is so much suffering in this world, and why it seems so unequaled between people. All I can do is believe and have faith that somehow God has the big picture in mind when it comes to eternity and that this life, no matter how how good or bad this life has been, is oh so brief and momentary and yet crucial in how one's eternal future will be.

      January 11, 2013 at 12:06 pm |
  14. Tim W.

    Maybe less people believe in man made religions and still believe in a Supreme Being !

    January 11, 2013 at 2:20 am |
  15. wjmccartan

    I was baptized a catholic, did my first communion and later confirmation. Never like the idea of being talked to though, that is basically all mass is, a couple of readings and a peace be with you and on your way. Then you would go outside and see the people that were just with you inside and they would be on with the hate, or talking about this person or that, it was like. Okay I did my duty now back to the real world. I had both my boys baptized, but that was it, I wasn't going to indoctrinate them into the faith. I felt it was more important to raise free thinkers, who would become part of society without bias towards anybody faith, or lack of it, we talked about church and I raised them to be good boys and they have become good men, now their 21 and 23. I tell them to read about the world we live and its history. I've also always said don't drink the koolaid. Everything should be questioned and looked at without prejudice. Nobody should ever be discriminated against because of their believes. As long as no one gets hurts, then they should speak out and stand up.

    Peace

    Lucid One

    January 11, 2013 at 1:53 am |
    • ModernXtian

      First of all, your knowledge of Catholic liturgy is deplorable. "A couple of readings and a sign of peace?" "Being talked to?" Hardly! Also, you state that you want your children to be free thinkers, but you forget that to do that, you do need to drink the koolaid. It's how you digest it that matters.

      January 11, 2013 at 7:17 am |
  16. onemorehere

    male and female genders exist there is nothing wrong with those who support and believe in a male god the Christian God or those who believe in a female Goddess... we are both aware that male and female exist and we don't doubt that we all take it as a fact...we as individuals arent God's but as a group it might feel like we are but we are stil mistaken...yet there is something that created the two genders for the two Genders we agree exist....what the arguement then...what created the two genders we are fighting over is what i would call God as we know it...the strong is born to protect the weak just as the bible intructs to do...the male is born to defend the live and offpring of the females that is what we c all life existence...

    January 11, 2013 at 1:42 am |
    • Alvin

      Please go get a few more years of English before you attempt our language. It looks like you are trying to say something about how women are weak and men should dominate, and I really hope you aren't that big a douchebag.

      January 11, 2013 at 1:47 am |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      now explain hermaphrodites

      January 11, 2013 at 2:29 am |
    • Jim

      why would a god need gender?

      January 11, 2013 at 3:57 am |
  17. onemorehere

    half the world believe in a female god the other half believe in a male god- and the division aren't all that clear. cause they both mingle together every day my bloodlines marriage, or other types of relationships..we are all connected in spirite wheather we believe or not...a child cannot be born with out a female-male combination i am now doubting those that say otherwise they might not have notice the presence of the other as of yet but at all times both genders are needed to pass life to the next generation...

    January 11, 2013 at 1:34 am |
    • EuphoriCrest

      FYI, The period key is located at the bottom right of your keyboard, between the comma and forward slash.

      January 11, 2013 at 1:58 am |
  18. Comment on my blog

    I would like to hear from religious people especially as to why they believe, but anyone can comment. http://whydoyoublv.blogspot.com/

    January 11, 2013 at 1:23 am |
    • Larry of Nazareth

      They believe because they are unable to think critically.

      January 11, 2013 at 1:29 am |
    • Comment on my blog

      I do not think what people believe is that simple. I hope that I can get people to comment so that there can be more discussion about it.

      January 11, 2013 at 1:38 am |
    • Larry of Nazareth

      I would be far more interested in why they continue to believe when they have absolutely no evidence supports them and their scripture is madness. But then we get right back to my "unable to think critically" answer.

      January 11, 2013 at 1:43 am |
    • Susie

      I have an advanced degree and I am quite capable of critical thought, Critical thought works well in some contexts. It does not explain why 3 billion people have some kind of belief in a Supreme Being.

      January 11, 2013 at 2:29 am |
    • Toggi3

      Don't bother. Theists don't argue on the same terms of modern logic and the scientific method. To them, you must disprove their unfalsifiable hypothesis. Unfalsifiable because they just told you so, that your logic and your methods exist outside the realm of their god and thus you cant use them, yet they task you with logically dissecting the evidence for their God. You won't reach a mind that thinks on those terms. You will typically only be able to reach a mind that already questions the world and thinks in facts and logic and the tangible. A mind that doesn't create unfalsifiable theories and then put absolute faith into them without second guessing because it makes them feel comforted about what a tremendous pile of suck the world is and how cruel it is we are all going to die.

      January 11, 2013 at 2:36 am |
    • OTOH

      Susie,
      "Critical thought works well in some contexts. It does not explain why 3 billion people have some kind of belief in a Supreme Being."

      Yes, it can.

      Consider:
      – the families and cultures of many have a great influence on what they will come to believe.
      – humans are curious creatures and look for causes - some stop investigating and accept what's popular and comfortable.
      – wishful thinking to allay fear of death and to give them the illusion of power over otherwise uncontrollable events.
      – around 4 billion people do not accept this Supreme Being hypothesis.

      January 11, 2013 at 2:49 am |
    • Logic led me to atheism

      "why they believe???" It's not rocket science. They believe because they WANT to believe. It's really just that simple

      January 11, 2013 at 8:04 am |
  19. onemorehere

    ok,ok,ok, i get it both sides think they are telling the truth there are no lyers here on this blogs only misinform people talking about two separate subjects yet thinking they are talking about the same thing the existence of god...one side believe the other doesn't what's wrong with that...sooner or later they'll changed their minds and one side will believe and the other won't so the arguement will forever be the same about two separate aguement on the same blog...but its definitely entertaining to read the comebacks...keep up the good work you all...its just as fun to read what the believer have to say as to what the nonebeliever have to say...after all it keeps all getting to know eachother better on what we believe right???

    i thought so some of you would disagree and some will agree....and the arguement continues forever til God comes and show us all his existence or we don't show up to him after death or what ever one thing is for sure today we exist thanks to a creator we are anable to percieved the same way as the person standing next to us...so in time we all tand to acknowledge there is more to being human than being able to spress one's opinion on the subject...I believe there for i exist...

    January 11, 2013 at 1:21 am |
    • Great Flying Spagetti Monster

      I do not believe in you – so you do not exist

      January 11, 2013 at 7:10 am |
  20. me

    I was baptized a catholic, I was even did my confirmation, most catholics know what that is, my children were both baptized catholic. I raised my children though without indoctrination into Catholicism, I thought it more important to raise free thinkers, when ever they wanted to talk about church or other faiths, I would tell them what I know. Their 23 and 21 now, neither is affiliated with any church, and they still remain free thinkers, I still think that's the best I can do for them and the world we live in, this world will always need free thinkers. I still say to this day read about what you wish, learn about anything you like, just don't drink the koolaid. There are already enough people who do that, its important to ask questions and to question authority. Most of all its important to learn and keep and open mind. Enjoy your faith whatever it might be, as long as your not hurting people. That is when free thinkers and those that know wrong from right must stand and say no more.

    Peace

    Lucid One

    January 11, 2013 at 1:19 am |
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15

Post a comment

You must be logged in to post a comment.

Advertisement
About this blog

The CNN Belief Blog covers the faith angles of the day's biggest stories, from breaking news to politics to entertainment, fostering a global conversation about the role of religion and belief in readers' lives. It's edited by CNN's Daniel Burke and Eric Marrapodi with daily contributions from CNN's worldwide newsgathering team.