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January 10th, 2013
12:07 PM ET

Giglio bows out of inauguration over sermon on gays

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Editor


(CNN)–
In the face of withering criticism over a sermon he apparently delivered on homosexuality in the 1990s, the Rev. Louie Giglio has withdrawn from giving the benediction at President Barack Obama's inauguration.

Giglio informed inauguration officials Thursday morning of his decision to withdraw from the ceremony, an inauguration official told CNN.

"I am honored to have been invited by the president to give the benediction at the upcoming inauguration on January 21," Giglio said in a statement delivered to the White House and the Presidential Inaugural Committee. "Though the president and I do not agree on every issue, we have fashioned a friendship around common goals and ideals, most notably, ending slavery in all its forms."

"Due to a message of mine that has surfaced from 15-20 years ago, it is likely that my participation, and the prayer I would offer, will be dwarfed by those seeking to make their agenda a focal point of the inauguration. Clearly, speaking on this issue has not been in the range of my priorities in the past fifteen years. Instead, my aim has been to call people to ultimate significance as we make much of Jesus Christ."

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Giglio, a pastor and the leader of the Passion Movement, was chosen to deliver the benediction because he's a "powerful voice for ending human trafficking and global sex slavery" and due to his work in mobilizing young people in that effort, an inauguration official said earlier in the week when the reverend's selection was first announced.

Criticism over the selection swirled after the liberal website Think Progress posted a sermon that it said Giglio gave in the mid-1990s, a speech the site called "vehemently anti-gay."

A spokeswoman for the Presidential Inaugural Committee said the committee was "not aware of Pastor Giglio's past comments at the time of his selection and they don't reflect our desire to celebrate the strength and diversity of our country at this Inaugural."

"As we now work to select someone to deliver the benediction, we will ensure their beliefs reflect this administration's vision of inclusion and acceptance for all Americans," said PIC spokeswoman Addie Whisenant.

In an audio copy of the sermon posted on the Think Progress website, a voice identified as that of Giglio's called homosexuality a sin. "That's God's voice. If you want to hear God's voice, that is his voice to this issue of homosexuality. It is not ambiguous and unclear. It is very clear."

"If you look at the counsel of the word of God, Old Testament, New Testament, you come quickly to the conclusion that homosexuality is not an alternate lifestyle... homosexuality is not just a sexual preference, homosexuality is not gay, but homosexuality is sin. It is sin in the eyes of God, and it is sin according to the word of God."

The recording continues: "The only way out of a homosexual lifestyle, the only way out of a relationship that has been ingrained over years of time, is through the healing power of Jesus."

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"We've got to say to the homosexuals, the same thing that I say to you and that you would say to me... it's not easy to change, but it is possible to change," he can also be heard saying during the sermon.

Giglio is a rising voice in evangelical Christianity. Last week, the Passion conference, which he founded, wrapped up its annual event for college students in Atlanta, with more than 60,000 students attending and vowing to end global slavery. They raised $3 million for charities that work to stop slavery and aid its victims.

Giglio said Thursday that he and his team don't feel "it best serves the core message and goals we are seeking to accomplish to be in a fight on an issue not of our choosing; thus I respectfully withdraw my acceptance of the president's invitation."

"I will continue to pray regularly for the president, and urge the nation to do so. I will most certainly pray for him on Inauguration Day," Giglio's statement to the White House continued.

"Our nation is deeply divided and hurting, and more than ever need God's grace and mercy in our time of need," it concluded.

Giglio took to his church blog Thursday to further explain his position to his congregants at Passion City Church in Atlanta.

"The issue of homosexuality (which a particular message of mine some 20 years ago addressed) is one of the most difficult our nation will navigate. However, individuals' rights of freedom, and the collective right to hold differing views on any subject is a critical balance we, as a people, must recover and preserve," he wrote.

He asserted that his main goal as a pastor was to love people.

"I'm confident that anyone who knows me or has listened to the multitude of messages I have given in the last decade would most likely conclude that I am not easily characterized as being opposed to people - any people. Rather, I am constantly seeking to understand where all people are coming from and how to best serve them as I point them to Jesus."

Chad Griffin, president of the Human Rights Campaign, said Giglio's decision to withdraw was the right one.

"Participants in the inaugural festivities should unite rather than divide. Choosing an affirming and fair-minded voice as his replacement would be in keeping with the tone the president wants to set for his inaugural," Griffin said in a statement.

Giglio represents a new type of evangelical leader who "doesn't like to get involved in the culture war because it blurs the larger points he wants to make," said Michael Cromartie, the vice president of the Ethics and Public Policy Center in Washington.

"What I want to remind his critics is he's not being named to a Cabinet position," Cromartie said. "He was being asked to deliver a prayer. All sorts of people deliver prayers who we don't agree with on a number of issues."

"It's unfortunate that this kind of political correctness doesn't allow people who are doing great work to pray at inauguration," he added.

CNN's Athena Jones contributed to this report

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Barack Obama • Christianity • Politics

soundoff (1,699 Responses)
  1. truth be told

    All so called atheists are liars and a wasted part of America. If the entire 1% of the population that claims atheism would disappear America would be a much better place.

    January 10, 2013 at 5:49 pm |
    • Pete

      more lies from the xtians – 86!

      January 10, 2013 at 5:50 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @tbt

      Still trolling? I guess finding any kind of real life would just be too difficult for you.

      January 10, 2013 at 5:50 pm |
    • Todd

      tbt is addicted to this site and probably doesn't have a real life.

      January 10, 2013 at 5:52 pm |
  2. DaveLake

    Why is it all these anti-gay nut jobs have eyes spaced so close together? I want to know!

    January 10, 2013 at 5:46 pm |
  3. Eugene

    As a righteous man preaching God's truth, Rev. Giglio is wise to decline the invitation. Light and darkness cannot co-exist.

    January 10, 2013 at 5:46 pm |
    • Automatic Translator

      "There'll never be enough light to make me accept that darkie in office."

      January 10, 2013 at 5:55 pm |
  4. atheist

    Have an atheist deliver one – no religion has a monopoly on ethics, compassion or inclusiveness.

    January 10, 2013 at 5:42 pm |
  5. Herdsman

    Everyone needs to take a chill pill and listen to Interplanetary Party by Santana

    January 10, 2013 at 5:38 pm |
  6. erik

    I sometimes wonder if these lying fungelists come from another planet. We know the story is all about control. But there is something hinting that people like this are from a more inferior world. The beady eyes close together. And why is it that it only takes a few chicken nuggets for their ears to puff up?

    January 10, 2013 at 5:32 pm |
    • lol??

      Beady eyes and little fingers? Short people got no reason to play in the Pro's...............Short people got no reason
      Short people got no reason
      Short people got no reason
      To live

      They got little hands
      Little eyes
      They walk around
      Tellin' great big lies
      They got little noses
      And tiny little teeth
      They wear platform shoes

      January 10, 2013 at 5:41 pm |
    • erik

      Ah, yes. Randy Newman – one of my fave atheists.

      January 10, 2013 at 6:13 pm |
  7. Glenn

    How 'bout a little tolerance for our president's faith, Christianity. Also kindness toward our neighbors. It's more of a blessing to love and not hate. Let's be respectful.

    January 10, 2013 at 5:30 pm |
  8. derp

    Did you ever wonder why it is that in all of the drawings of Adam and Eve they have navels?

    It's because religitards are too supid to undertstand that they would not have had them

    January 10, 2013 at 5:29 pm |
  9. Herdsman

    Prove all things

    January 10, 2013 at 5:26 pm |
  10. Brampton

    Vic – the bible says as well that before many in the first century beame Christians, had an lifestyle not competable with what God requires of his servents. But the key is that those people "were adulterers, drunkers, men that lay with men.." So before they became Christian they had to leave there old lifestyle. Like that they were able to receive Gods forgiveness.

    1 Cor 6:9-11 : "9What! Do ​YOU​ not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men,...11And yet that is what some of ​YOU​ were."

    January 10, 2013 at 5:25 pm |
    • James

      " had an lifestyle not competable with what God requires of his servents"

      That's not true. The scriptures actually say nothing about homosexuality as a psychosexual orientation. Our understandings of sexual orientation are distinctly modern ones that were not present in the minds of Scripture writers. A few passages of Scripture (seven at the most) object to certain types of same-sex expressions or acts. The particular acts in question, however, are sexual expressions which are exploitative, oppressive, commercialized, or offensive to ancient purity rituals. There is no Scriptural guidance for same-sex relationships which are loving and mutually respecting. Guidelines for these relationships should come from the same general Scriptural norms that apply to heterosexual relationships.

      January 10, 2013 at 5:28 pm |
    • Don

      "1 Cor 6:9-11"

      Any consideration of New Testament statements on same-sex acts must carefully view the social context of the Greco-Roman culture in which Paul ministered. Prostitution and pederasty (sexual relationships of adult men with boys) were the most commonly known male same-sex acts. In I Corinthians 6:9, Paul condemns those who are "effeminate" and "abusers of themselves with mankind," as translated in the King James version. Unfortunately, some new translations are worse, rendering these words "homosexuals." Recent scholarship unmasks the homophobia behind such mistranslations.

      The first word – malakos, in the Greek text-which has been translated "effeminate" or "soft," most likely refers to someone who lacks discipline or moral control. The word is used elsewhere in the New Testament but never with reference to sexuality.

      The second word, Arsenokoitai, occurs once each in I Corinthians and I Timothy (1:10), but nowhere else in other literature of the period. It is derived from two Greek words, one meaning, "males" and the other "beds", a euphemism for sexual intercourse. Other Greek words were commonly used to describe homosexual behavior but do not appear here. The larger context of I Corinthians 6 shows Paul extremely concerned with prostitution, so it is very possible he was referring to male prostitutes. But many experts now attempting to translate these words have reached a simple conclusion: their precise meaning is uncertain. Scripture Study Conclusion…No Law Against Love

      January 10, 2013 at 5:30 pm |
    • Brampton

      James n don – lol!! Ok, so what do you understand by " men for unnatural purposes, and men that lie with men"! Didn't God create Adam and Eve ( women) ?? Tell me guys what do you understand by that? I'm not saying that GAY people are doomed before God forever, God gives these people and others time to change there lifestyle, like many have.

      January 10, 2013 at 5:44 pm |
    • YeahRight

      " God gives these people and others time to change there lifestyle, like many have."

      The experts in this country disagree with you which is why the released this statement. Heterosexual behavior and homosexual behavior are normal aspects of human sexuality. Despite the persistence of stereotypes that portray lesbian, gay, and bisexual people as disturbed, several decades of research and clinical experience have led all mainstream medical and mental health organizations in this country to conclude that these orientations represent normal forms of human experience. The American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Counseling Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the American School Counselor Association, the National Association of School Psychologists, and the National Association of SocialWorkers, together representing more than 480,000 mental health professionals, have all taken the position that homosexuality is not a mental disorder and thus is not something that needs to or can be “cured."

      Like their heterosexual counterparts, many gay and lesbian people want to form stable, long-lasting, committed relationships. Indeed, many of them do and that large proportions are currently involved in such a relationship and that a substantial number of those couples have been together 10 or more years.

      Research demonstrates that the psychological and social aspects of committed relationships between same-sex partners closely resemble those of heterosexual partnerships. Like heterosexual couples, same-sex couples form deep emotional attachments and commitments. Heterosexual and same-sex couples alike face similar issues concerning intimacy, love, equity, loyalty, and stability, and they go through similar processes to address those issues. Research examining the quality of intimate relationships also shows that gay and lesbian couples have levels of relationship satisfaction similar to or higher than those of heterosexual couples.

      A large number of gay and lesbian couples raise children. Children and teenagers whose parents provide loving guidance in the context of secure home environments are more likely to flourish – and this is just as true for children of same-sex parents as it is for children of opposite-sex parents. Based on research findings, mental health professionals have also reached a consensus that the quality of relationships among significant adults in a child’s or adolescent’s life is associated with adjustment. When relationships between parents are characterized by love, warmth, cooperation, security, and mutual support, children and adolescents are more likely to show positive adjustment. In contrast, when relationships between parents are conflict-ridden and acrimonious, the adjustment of children and adolescents is likely to be less favorable. These correlations are just as true for children of same-sex parents as for children of opposite-sex parents.

      Assertions that heterosexual couples are inherently better parents than same sex couples, or that the children of lesbian or gay parents fare worse than children of heterosexual parents, have no support in the scientific research literature. On the contrary, the scientific research that has directly compared outcomes for children with gay and lesbian parents with outcomes for children with heterosexual parents has consistently shown that the former are as fit and capable as the latter and that their children are as psychologically healthy and well adjusted as children reared by heterosexual parents.

      January 10, 2013 at 5:46 pm |
    • John

      "Ok, so what do you understand by " men for unnatural purposes, and men that lie with men"! Didn't God create Adam and Eve ( women)"

      Some argue that since homosexual behavior is "unnatural" it is contrary to the order of creation. Behind this pronouncement are stereotypical definitions of masculinity and femininity that reflect rigid gender categories of patriarchal society. There is nothing unnatural about any shared love, even between two of the same gender, if that experience calls both partners to a fuller state of being. Contemporary research is uncovering new facts that are producing a rising conviction that homosexuality, far from being a sickness, sin, perversion or unnatural act, is a healthy, natural and affirming form of human sexuality for some people. Findings indicate that homosexuality is a given fact in the nature of a significant portion of people, and that it is unchangeable.

      Our prejudice rejects people or things outside our understanding. But the God of creation speaks and declares, "I have looked out on everything I have made and `behold it (is) very good'." . The word (Genesis 1:31) of God in Christ says that we are loved, valued, redeemed, and counted as precious no matter how we might be valued by a prejudiced world.

      There are few biblical references to homosexuality. The first, the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, is often quoted to prove that the Bible condemns homosexuality. But the real sin of Sodom was the unwillingness of the city's men to observe the laws of hospitality. The intention was to insult the stranger by forcing him to take the female role in the sex act. The biblical narrative approves Lot's offer of his virgin daughters to satisfy the sexual demands of the mob. How many would say, "This is the word of the Lord"? When the Bible is quoted literally, it might be well for the one quoting to read the text in its entirety.

      Leviticus, in the Hebrew Scriptures, condemns homosexual behaviour, at least for males. Yet, "abomination", the word Leviticus uses to describe homosexuality, is the same word used to describe a menstruating woman. Paul is the most quoted source in the battle to condemn homosexuality ( 1 Corinthians 6: 9-11 and Romans 1: 26-27). But homosexual activity was regarded by Paul as a punishment visited upon idolaters by God because of their unfaithfulness. Homosexuality was not the sin but the punishment.

      1 Corinthians 6:9-11, Paul gave a list of those who would not inherit the Kingdom of God. That list included the immoral, idolaters, adulterers, sexual perverts, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, revilers, and robbers. Sexual perverts is a translation of two words; it is possible that the juxtaposition of malakos, the soft, effeminate word, with arsenokoitus, or male prostitute, was meant to refer to the passive and active males in a homosexual liaison.

      Thus, it appears that Paul would not approve of homosexual behavior. But was Paul's opinion about homosexuality accurate, or was it limited by the lack of scientific knowledge in his day and infected by prejudice born of ignorance? An examination of some of Paul's other assumptions and conclusions will help answer this question. Who today would share Paul's anti-Semitic attitude, his belief that the authority of the state was not to be challenged, or that all women ought to be veiled? In these attitudes Paul's thinking has been challenged and transcended even by the church! Is Paul's commentary on homosexuality more absolute than some of his other antiquated, culturally conditioned ideas?

      Three other references in the New Testament (in Timothy, Jude and 2 Peter) appear to be limited to condemnation of male sex slaves in the first instance, and to showing examples (Sodom and Gomorrah) of God's destruction of unbelievers and heretics (in Jude and 2 Peter respectively).

      That is all that Scripture has to say about homosexuality. Even if one is a biblical literalist, these references do not build an ironclad case for condemnation. If one is not a biblical literalist there is no case at all, nothing but prejudice born of ignorance, that attacks people whose only crime is to be born with an unchangeable sexual predisposition toward those of their own sex.

      January 10, 2013 at 5:47 pm |
    • sam

      Sorry Brampton – non-christians often have a better understanding of the history of the scriptures. Guess you'll just have to deal.

      January 10, 2013 at 5:51 pm |
    • Brampton

      Being GAY is natural??? Why can't GAY couple have children?? Simple, sx between 2 people of the same sx was not ment to be! Sorry about the talk, but going behind on someone, is that natural, if you do that you will get hemorrids, infections... How natural is that??

      January 10, 2013 at 5:53 pm |
    • sam

      Damn, Brampton. You are one dumb sonofabitch.

      January 10, 2013 at 5:57 pm |
    • sam

      Can someone get Brampton a book on the birds and bees? He's having trouble.

      Also, can someone remind him where gay people come from?

      January 10, 2013 at 5:58 pm |
    • YeahRight

      " Why can't GAY couple have children?? Simple, sx between 2 people of the same sx was not ment to be! Sorry about the talk, but going behind on someone, is that natural, if you do that you will get hemorrids, infections... How natural is that??"

      Gay couples have their own children, take a biology class. By the way husbands have the same kind of sex with their wives. ;-) LOL!

      January 10, 2013 at 6:00 pm |
    • Brampton

      Sam- lol!! Yeah they understand so much of the scriptures, that they twist fully the meaning of the txt! Even a blind men can see clearly through the words of the txt mentioned. But I'm not saying that GAY people have to change, I'm just making mention of what God says, and we need to adapt to what he says and not the other way! Every person has the freedom to do what ever they want.

      January 10, 2013 at 6:00 pm |
    • Lucy

      Don't worry, Bram. Someday you'll find a nice girl who will show you where your prostate is and you'll understand.

      January 10, 2013 at 6:01 pm |
    • Brampton

      Yeah right- I must agree with you, that is unnatural as well... Before God that is a sin! The couple is not maintaining there relationship honourable. Good point though!

      January 10, 2013 at 6:03 pm |
    • Pete

      "Yeah they understand so much of the scriptures, that they twist fully the meaning of the txt! Even a blind men can see clearly through the words of the txt mentioned."

      You do get that some are other Christians posting not atheists.

      January 10, 2013 at 6:05 pm |
    • Todd

      "The couple is not maintaining there relationship honourable. Good point though!"

      Don't forget Brampton, then that also includes no B J and no going down on your wife too.

      January 10, 2013 at 6:06 pm |
    • Brampton

      Todd- you are right!

      January 10, 2013 at 6:10 pm |
    • Brampton

      Pete- I do know that there "Christians"... But by name though... A real Christian teaches what Christ thought, and lives as he did, in a moral way as well! You must know very well that the majority of the "Christian" denominations don't really teach whats in the bible, not live according to the standards of it!

      January 10, 2013 at 6:14 pm |
    • 261 Ministers Proclamation

      As Christian clergy we proclaim: the Good News concerning Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender (LGBT) persons and publicly apologize where we have been silent. As disciples of Jesus, who assures us that the truth sets us free, we recognize that the debate is over. The verdict is in. Homosexuality is not a sickness, not a choice, and not a sin. We find no rational biblical or theological basis to condemn or deny the rights of any person based on sexual orientation. Silence by many has allowed political and religious rhetoric to monopolize public perception, creating the impression that there is only one Christian perspective on this issue. Yet we recognize and celebrate that we are far from alone, as Christians, in affirming that LGBT persons are distinctive, holy, and precious gifts to all who struggle to become the family of God.

      In repentance and obedience to the Holy Spirit, we stand in solidarity as those who are committed to work and pray for full acceptance and inclusion of LGBT persons in our churches and in our world. We lament that LGBT persons are condemned and excluded by individuals and institutions, political and religious, who claim to be speaking the truth of Christian teaching. This leads directly and indirectly to intolerance, discrimination, suffering, and even death. The Holy Spirit compels us:

      -to affirm that the essence of Christian life is not focused on sexual orientation, but how one lives by grace in relationship with God, with compassion toward humanity;

      –to embrace the full inclusion of our LGBT brothers and sisters in all areas of church life, including leadership;

      –to declare that the violence must stop. Christ’s love moves us to work for the healing of wounded souls who are victims of abuse often propagated in the name of Christ;

      –to celebrate the prophetic witness of all people who have refused to let the voice of intolerance and violence speak for Christianity, especially LGBT persons, who have met hatred with love.

      Therefore we call for an end to all religious and civil discrimination against any person based on sexual orientation and gender identity and expression. All laws must include and protect the freedoms; rights, and equal legal standing of all persons, in and outside the church.

      January 10, 2013 at 6:16 pm |
    • hal 9001

      I'm sorry, "Brampton", but "God" is an element of mythology, therefore your assertions are unfounded. Using my Idiomatic Expression Equivalency module (IEE), the expression that best matches the degree to which your assertions may represent truths is: "EPIC FAIL".

      January 10, 2013 at 6:17 pm |
    • Brampton

      261 minister- lol!!! Ur a clergymen!!?? I can see that... You clergymen, you accept everything, the point is that it bring you the mighty dollar right??
      I'm not anti GAY, if I have to work with one, I don't mind, if my neiboughboor is Gay and needs help, no problem ill give him a hand, I'm just pointing out is Gods point of view, anyone that wants to serve God needs to make changes, regardless of what it might be, that's all!

      January 10, 2013 at 6:35 pm |
    • Vic

      @Brampton

      Here is about what God wants:

      Romans 10:13
      "13 for “Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved.”"

      All what God wants from people (whoever) is to believe in Him and He will remember there sins no more! That's what the Lord Jesus Christ paid the price for in FULL!!!

      Hebrews 8:12
      "12 “For I will be merciful to their iniquities, And I will remember their sins no more.”"

      So, invite people to BELIEVE in Jesus Christ and NOT Law!

      @John and 261 Ministers Proclamation

      God Bless you!!! You are true Disciples of Jesus Christ!!!

      January 11, 2013 at 11:39 am |
  11. BTB

    He had the rare privledge to deliver a presidential benediction...to become a part of history and join a very exclusive "club" of previous pastors who have been invited to do so. But his past caught up with him...his choice to deliver mean spirited sermon, a condemnation of gay and lesbian people (of all GLBTQ people) has erased this opportunity forever.
    I wonder if he will look back and regret his actions in the 90's? ...what could have been.
    I hope whomever has this honor is a just and inclusive thinking person.

    January 10, 2013 at 5:23 pm |
    • lol??

      Remember the shooting at Haggard's church? Check out what happened to the hero lady after all was said and done. It should be very easy for Christians to tell the prez to take a hike.

      January 10, 2013 at 5:32 pm |
    • lol??

      The USA has come a long way baby, so this could be fulfilled:...."Dan 4:17 This matter [is] by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men."

      January 10, 2013 at 5:36 pm |
  12. V

    Speaking out against a group of people does not mean that you hate that group of people. You can love the person and denounce the behavior at the same time.

    January 10, 2013 at 5:21 pm |
    • pam

      if you truly loved them and were not superstitious, then you would have no reason to speak out against them in the first place.

      January 10, 2013 at 5:23 pm |
    • midwest rail

      The Big Lie as practiced by contemporary Christianity – love the sinner, hate the sin. A concept they stole from Gandhi, and have been bas_tardizing it ever since.

      January 10, 2013 at 5:25 pm |
    • Todd

      "You can love the person and denounce the behavior at the same time."

      How is two people in a loving committed relationship raising a family behavior that needs to be denounced?

      January 10, 2013 at 5:25 pm |
    • sam

      'Behavior' and 'lifestyle' – words used by fundies as a way of making gay people seem unlike them.

      January 10, 2013 at 6:00 pm |
  13. Vic

    The issue is not whether h o m o s e x u a l i t y is a sin or not! The issue is what is forgiven and what is not!

    Since Jesus Christ, we are not to judge nor condemn, we are forgiven and saved by Grace through Faith in Him, blasphemy/unbelief is the ONLY UNFORGIVABLE sin, and we are not under the Law anymore!

    Matthew 7:1,2
    "7 “Do not judge so that you will not be judged. 2 For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you."

    Matthew 12:31
    "31 Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven."

    Luke 6:37
    "37 “Do not judge, and you will not be judged; and do not condemn, and you will not be condemned; pardon, and you will be pardoned."

    John 3:16,17
    "16 For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him."

    Romans 2:1
    "2 Therefore you have no excuse, everyone of you who passes judgment, for in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things."

    Romans 5:6
    "For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly."

    Romans 8:1,2
    "8 Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death."

    Romans 10:4
    "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes."

    Galatians 3:13
    "13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”—"

    Ephesians 1:7
    "In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace"

    Ephesians 2:8,9
    "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast."

    January 10, 2013 at 5:07 pm |
    • Susie

      I see you missed all the scriptures related to repentance and seeking the kingdom of God.

      January 10, 2013 at 5:10 pm |
    • sam

      Hmm...

      January 10, 2013 at 5:10 pm |
    • Vic

      Jesus Christ was born under the Law and ministered to His people accordingly (commandments,) yet all still failed! Jesus Christ fulfilled the Law during His ministry on Earth, and Salvation by the Grace through Faith in Him (The New Covenant,) only took effect when He shed His precious blood (Remission of Sins) on the Holy Cross in Calvary, descended to Hell and defeated Death, and then rose from the dead on the third day (First Fruit of Resurrection) bringing us Eternal Life and Reconciliation with God the Father!!!

      Galatians 4:4,5
      "4 But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law, 5 so that He might redeem those who were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption as sons."

      John 1:16,17
      "16 For of His fullness we have all received, and grace upon grace. 17 For the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth were realized through Jesus Christ."

      Romans 6:23
      "23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."

      [Scripture is from the New American Standard Bible (NASB)]
      http://www.biblegateway.com/

      January 10, 2013 at 5:38 pm |
    • jeon

      "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?" 1 Corinthians 5:12.

      January 10, 2013 at 6:02 pm |
  14. Bob

    Now if we can only remove all religions from this secular tradition. Gods are not welcome at government events meant to serve all peoples. Please only bring them to your private ritualistic altar or lamb sacrificing events.

    January 10, 2013 at 5:00 pm |
    • bill.x

      You are interestingly right. Jesus himself preached to and hung out and worked with all peoples.

      January 10, 2013 at 5:04 pm |
    • Jenny

      Ooooooh Bob you're going to face the Lord's wrath for that one. Which Lord, I'm not quite sure but at some point you're gonna get it.

      January 10, 2013 at 5:04 pm |
    • lol??

      Yup they know how to serve up the Masters, deep fried.

      January 10, 2013 at 5:06 pm |
    • Bob

      @Jenny

      I'm debating being ruled by the Moon God or he Sun God. On one hand, the Sun God brings light and life to the earth. On the other hand, the Moon God seems like the kind of god you can have a beer with. You know?

      January 10, 2013 at 5:09 pm |
    • lol??

      bobster, here's the answer to your predicament, "William Demuth
      Hell no

      I am more the variety that nailed his scrawny butt up in the first place.

      I ain't the forgiving type.

      January 10, 2013 at 2:52 pm...............Leadership amongst servants.

      January 10, 2013 at 5:26 pm |
  15. alpeaston

    Imagine if a minister (who made racists statements 15 or 20 years ago) was asked to speak at the inuagural and then his racists comments were uncovered – there would be no question that he should NOT speak! Little discussion would be necessary as to why he should not speak!

    January 10, 2013 at 4:55 pm |
  16. MIke

    Jesus Christ does not equal Hate. Man Equals Hate, Gay equals sin.

    January 10, 2013 at 4:54 pm |
    • derp

      And Mike equals jesustard doosh.

      January 10, 2013 at 4:55 pm |
    • James

      "Gay equals sin."

      No, it doesn't. The scriptures actually say nothing about homosexuality as a psychosexual orientation. Our understandings of sexual orientation are distinctly modern ones that were not present in the minds of Scripture writers. A few passages of Scripture (seven at the most) object to certain types of same-sex expressions or acts. The particular acts in question, however, are sexual expressions which are exploitative, oppressive, commercialized, or offensive to ancient purity rituals. There is no Scriptural guidance for same-sex relationships which are loving and mutually respecting. Guidelines for these relationships should come from the same general Scriptural norms that apply to heterosexual relationships.

      January 10, 2013 at 4:57 pm |
    • pam

      Jesus Christ was gay. Man equals Hate. Paul tried to preach the h0m0 out of Jesus.

      January 10, 2013 at 4:57 pm |
    • sam

      Sin = bullshit.

      January 10, 2013 at 4:59 pm |
    • Bob

      Jesus was a homeless schizophrenic. The people that follow his teaching are delusional.

      January 10, 2013 at 5:02 pm |
    • Ike

      Mike equals dingbat nincompoop

      January 10, 2013 at 5:03 pm |
    • Jackson

      Mike, your religion is only one of many on this planet. Do not attempt to dictate to the entire world what they should and should not believe.

      Besides, doesn't the god of which you speak also say judge not lest ye be judged? Why would you want people to follow the words of a god you yourself prove unwilling to follow.

      Just more of that religious hypocrisy we see all too often.

      January 10, 2013 at 5:43 pm |
    • ttwp

      At the name of Jesus every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of the Father.

      and

      Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."

      January 10, 2013 at 6:45 pm |
  17. papaw nick

    If you don't toe the line we believe in you cannot participate. There are some who believe everyone should think and believe as they do to be acceptable. Though I will always follow our laws, what I believe cannot be changed. Don't believe in Jesus and God? FINE. Do believe in Jesus and God? FINE Everyone can decide who and what they believe. Problem is that there are those who believe they have the right to decide what beople belive and think. Just think that this has happened in other parts of the world in the 30's thru the 70"s. Especially in Germany and Russia.

    January 10, 2013 at 4:52 pm |
    • Jenny

      Yeah like all the millions of people who would only vote for a Christian. Have you ever even thought of that? You're supposed to have the same old belief system as the previous guy or you are not even considered. Maybe if you think about that you'll realize how humorous your post is.

      January 10, 2013 at 5:07 pm |
    • lol??

      Too bad the world believes in Keynesian economics, instead of listening to his brother.

      January 10, 2013 at 5:08 pm |
  18. John

    My biggest problem with this issue is that it is an issue with Christian religion, not with Louie Giglio. To be angry that Louie Giglio gave a sermon where he explained Christianity as a sin is odd, because we would expect a pastor of Christianity to teach what is described in the book on which the religion stands.

    Think Progress's main focus should instead be a target against Christianity, rather than an individual who promotes the religion that he or she is a part of.

    I am not anti-gay by any means, but it just seemed appropriate to point this out.

    January 10, 2013 at 4:52 pm |
  19. MIke

    Love the comments, For the christians keep up the fight, For the athiest keep up the fight. Truth is this movement of Athiest as small as it is has still moved me closer to what I believe. For that I am Thankful and God bless you.

    January 10, 2013 at 4:52 pm |
    • Jenny

      Well Mike, the atheists keep coming out of the closet, and there are more and more of them all the time. We are not bad people, just think differently.

      January 10, 2013 at 5:10 pm |
  20. Joe from CT, not Lieberman

    Just a question – did he ever come out with another sermon repudiating his previous anti-gay one? If he did, then why are people holding things against him that were stated decades ago?

    January 10, 2013 at 4:47 pm |
    • derp

      "did he ever come out with another sermon repudiating his previous anti-gay one?"

      No, he didn't.

      He has been consitently anti gay thoughout his whole charade, er I mean career.

      January 10, 2013 at 4:54 pm |
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