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January 22nd, 2013
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King: Obama MLK Bible use 'heartwarming'Bernice King, daughter of Martin Luther King Jr., on of President Obama using her father's Bible for his inauguration. |
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Out, Proud, and Celibate!
This is a chant from our clients transitioning from fornication to salvation.
This is a declaration of hope and freedom from fornicators who have
decided that their salvation is worth living for as they reject fornication
and choose eternity.
No more one night stands...
No more runs to the store for condoms, dams and other objects to commit sinful acts...
No more positive HIV tests since gay coitus with the infected is no longer on the bucket list...
A new circle of friends for prayer instead partners for openly sinful acts...
Peace of mind and blessed assurance that victory is won!
Douglas,
Do heteros spread AIDS?
Yeah! "Don't have s-e-x now so you can not have s-e-x for an eternity" Good idea, queenie.
No wonder thumpers are so repressed.
Douglas won't respond to questions or challenges, because that deprives him of his narrative. As long as he sticks to the "script", he'll continue posting the same deluded nonsense, all of which is a made-up fantasy. There is no church, no thousands of newly-celibate gay people, nothing. Just Douglas' fantasy world.
swear on a copy of the const.itution - not a book of fairy tales.
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MLK, a great man with a flawed theology and history thereof.
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Supreme Court to Decide if Human Genes Can Be ... – Reason Online
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Nov 30, 2012 – The justices' decision will likely resolve an ongoing battle between scientists who believe that genes carrying the secrets of life should not be exploited for commercial gain and companies that argue that a patent is a reward ...
Quick reality check here friend,
Science has changed over the years. What we once thought was 'fact' has been proven wrong. You seem to be expecting people to abandon their religion because you are presenting them with 'facts' that you are sure will stand the test of time. You should explore the social sciences, since that is the realm you are dealing with when you want to change people's minds. Religion is a large part of how people see themselves, the world around them, and provides great comfort in many difficult situations. You will have to do better than "why won't people accept these facts" to convince people to abandon their faith.
That is why the courts step in. that is what is hurting our country . Old stuff not facts.
Another answer is , by the time the Supreme court is done the secert of life patent (internation patent) will define US all.
Oops should be international patent
The case is based on the question of whether a cloned gene is a natural product or is it a product of human effort/ingenuity. You can't patent a tree limb, but you can patent a style of baseball bat carved from the tree limb. The finer question is whether it's the cloned gene (which doesn't exist naturally, i.e. separate, without histones, etc) or the sequence information (which does exist naturally) that is covered under the relevant patent claims. .
The proper use of the Word of God is always heartwarming.
Atheism on the other hand provides only lies. There is no use for the filth of atheism in this world or the next.
"Atheism on the other hand provides only lies."
More lies from the xtians – 131!
truth be told,
God doesn't like people who lie so think about your future.
Can you provide us any proof of where an atheist lied?
Or provide us with some proof of your imaginary friend?
Oh, and btw, phuck god.
THAT is the proper use of the word, troll.
@midwest rail
Look on page one a fact is a fact the door needs to be closed on god(s)/religion OK
Look on page one a fact is a fact the door needs to be closed on god(s)/religion OK
And you're "closing" it by posting the same thing over.....and over.... and replying to yourself using another name over.....and over......and over. Just as silly as what you purport to fight.
No one wants to accept the facts, why is that ?
I guess the courts are wrong right?
@midwest rail
Is US court wrong ? why can't people accept the FACTS?
I'm al for online discussion forums, but if you really want to convince people who don't believe in evolution this probably isn't an effective platform. Talk to people you know in person, or donate more money to The legal fund of your choice or even public television. All you're going to do here is get some tools for dealing with certail folk in the real world, and maybe, if you bother to address individuals rather than spam, tweak just slightly the views of one or two people. No one you're targeting is going to read those giant press release type statements...they simply won't care, and meanwhile you'll be driving up your blood pressure and stress levels.
And if this is a personal issue, and you have to deal with fundamentalists every day or something, consider moving. I know not everyone can do it, but it sounds like this is really bothering you.
Where in my post did I speak to the veracity of your link ? Reading comprehension is a skill.
New science standards for 2013 (stem)
Thank you to the National Centre For Science Education (NCSE) for providing this information.
For years to come, the lessons from Dover will continue to have a profound impact on how science is viewed in our society and how it is taught in the classroom
.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hTZ5AYzs8o
Evolution WINS big time !!!
Not the creation from the bible FACT !
NEW see date .
Evolution at its best !
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Over 60,000 years ago, the first modern humans—people physically identical to us today—left their African homeland and entered Europe, then a bleak and inhospitable continent in the grip of the Ice Age. But when they arrived, they were not alone: the stocky, powerfully built Neanderthals had already been living there for hundred of thousands of years. So what happened when the first modern humans encountered the Neanderthals? Did we make love or war? That question has tantalized generations of scholars and seized the popular imagination. Then, in 2010, a team led by geneticist Svante Paabo announced stunning news. Not only had they reconstructed much of the Neanderthal genome—an extraordinary technical feat that would have seemed impossible only a decade ago—but their analysis showed that "we" modern humans had interbred with Neanderthals, leaving a small but consistent signature of Neanderthal genes behind in everyone outside Africa today. In "Decoding Neanderthals," NOVA explores the implications of this exciting discovery. In the traditional view, Neanderthals differed from "us" in behavior and capabilities as well as anatomy. But were they really mentally inferior, as inexpressive and clumsy as the cartoon caveman they inspired? NOVA explores a range of intriguing new evidence for Neanderthal self-expression and language, all pointing to the fact that we may have seriously underestimated our mysterious, long-vanished human cousins.
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Education works BEST !
So does your DNA, take a blood test and figure it out !
Simple to do OK !
To many Adams and Eves in gene pool for the bible's creation story.
Courts have ruled can't teach creation as fact in public shools in the US.
Means evolution WINS hands dfown, it is time for god(s) religion to get tghe HELL out of the way OK
Peace
Trolling should never be this tedious.
Yea had to close it, the door.
Your response meant what, exactly ?
swear on a copy of the consti.tution!!! not a book of fairy tales that commands its followers to kill g.ays, non-virgin brides, disobedient children and anyone working the weekend. i'd rather see him swear on Green Eggs and Ham.
Except its decline.........
may its death come as soon as possible.
it's a sick, sick, sick neurosis......................
Moby, You had it right the first time.
The demons do make people fornicate...you know...like the bugchasers?
Moby...help us cast out Satan!
Yes, I did have it right the first time, but I wanted to be extra careful and clarify, so I did. If you think that anything I wrote supports anything you've said, then you're mistaken and a poor interpreter of the English language.
Douglas, if it's Satan that is creating so many Christian hypocrites, he's doing great. Look at all of them trashing gays while ignoring the MUCH MUCH BIGGER number of Christian adulterers.
OK, I'll take the bait... adulterers are fornicators too.
They are condemned if they don't repent...just like fornicating gays.
Equal opportunity to sin...equal opportunity to be condemned or to repent...gay or straight!
Douglas,
There are FAR FAR MORE Christian adulterers than the total number of gays. Clean up the mess in your own church and read the Golden Rule sometime if you've never heard of it. There's also commands about judging others that you ignore, but that's not unusual.
If Christians were perfect they wouldnt need to be Christians.
satan makes people fornicate?
how silly
"They are condemned if they don't repent...just like fornicating gays."
The scriptures actually say nothing about homosexuality as a psychosexual orientation. Our understandings of sexual orientation are distinctly modern ones that were not present in the minds of Scripture writers. A few passages of Scripture (seven at the most) object to certain types of same-sex expressions or acts. The particular acts in question, however, are sexual expressions which are exploitative, oppressive, commercialized, or offensive to ancient purity rituals. There is no Scriptural guidance for same-sex relationships which are loving and mutually respecting. Guidelines for these relationships should come from the same general Scriptural norms that apply to heterosexual relationships.
"KIng said no to gays in his church..."
Please give us a citation proving he ever said this.
And please, STOP using MLK as a spingboard for your agenda when you have bashed him on the 'This Just In' blog to further your myriad of agendas on that blog.
It's dishonest to the core.
It matters to the masses that he swears on a bible, the fact that he chose an honourable man, if not a man without his own faults he had great foresight, and a previous president of great presence in American history, it is the ideals of these men that he is trying to show respect for their visions. I myself don't follow the discipline, but more power to them if even some of those followers cling to the ideals, its a good thing for mankind. Perhaps opening minds that might otherwise be closed by their respective faiths, no disrespect to people of faith, if it works for you and you don't cause others to suffer because of your faith, then enjoy. Peace
I believe in being me and it works, raised my kids to be themselves and it works for them, this world has more knowledge then can be contained in anyone's book, so yes if you would read the bible, then read the god particle, then read 20,000 leagues under the sea.
Lucid One
KIng said no to gays in his church but held out the hand of redemption for those prepared to come to the altar call
and confess with their tongues the horror of their sins against God and man.
Many gay men have responded to the altar call today and confessed their sins with a truthful tongue.
Encourage the LGBTQ to confess their sin of fornication and plead for mercy and salvation.
Start a support group or a prayer circle to help people cold turkey from the addiction of fornication!
Get thee behind me, Satan!
Form a circle for fornication. Douglas you are far too excited.
I've got to know, Douglas. What's the turkey for?
Douglas,
From the Bible:
Being gay: an ABOMINATION like eating lobster and Alaskan King crablegs.
Being hetero and divorcing and remarrying: a TEN COMMANDMENT SIN.
Ooops.
Sounds to me like King was suffering from cognitive dissonance. Seems as if he was trying to hold tightly onto the whole God thing, meanwhile he probably knew the bible's treatment of gays wasn't so nice. And he knew his own struggles.
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/16/what-did-mlk-think-about-gay-people/
A 17-year-old daughter of a semi-evangelical couple who live down the street is lesian, and her efforts to just come out to them and just be accepted as human have resulted in her parents pretty much doing what Douglas suggested.
The results? One suicide attempt and numerous calls to the suicide watch hotline. Despite trying to clue in the parents, they persist in their villification of her. Indications are that another suicide attempt is near, but I cannot get anyone to do anything. Hopefully she will turn 18 and move somewhere far from her "parents" where she can be accepted for what she is. She has no hope of ever getting those bigots to wake up.
This is the horror of religion. This is a true story that is happening three houses down from me, right now.
We will pray for the devil to come out of the young woman.
She will be healed through prayer. Keep me statused on her progress.
Our Wednesday prayer meeting will pray over her for deliverance and healing.
That'sd sad, Amy. If you get a chance, tell her that people like you and I think the other people are the azzhole fvckwads and she is just fine. It gets better, and she needs to get away from the demons that care more about the pattern of their brain states than her well being.
By "demons" I mean the christians who are judging her. –if that was unclear
That is what is killing her, you fucked up piece of shit! This is a real human being who is in the process of being driven to misery and death by fucked up bastards like you!!
You stood up with the murderers.
You are a piece of shit, Douglas.
Explain the millions dead from AIDS...because of the "hands off" policies of the "public health" people.
No...the blood is on your hands...not mine.
Every gay AIDS death is totally unreasonable...people do what they want
and pay the price.
The Bible warned of the dangers of these practices and it is mocked and ridiculed here
as a sport.
Nothing funny about death and self-destruction.
You are mentally ill, Douglas.
I strongly recommend you go out and shout your hate-filled views from every street corner that you can, because the people need to hear the ugly psychotic truth about Christianity.
You will recruit more atheists that atheists themselvesever could.
You fucked up piece of shit.
Douglas,
Do heteros spread AIDS?
Show us what you know.
Gays have more AIDS than straights because of their fornciating behavior in and around the tail end of the "partner".
Don't believe old Douglas?
Google AIDS Morbidity and Mortality rates from CDC and see what population is at greatest risk.
Presto! Old Douglas is right!
Douglas,
Reading comprehension problem?
Do heteros spread AIDS?
Show us what you know.
Lesbians have about the lowest rate of aids of any demographic, much lower than Christians.
doogie: you think more about gay men fornicating than any straight man i know. but, perhaps i am just a-s-suming things
doogie: let's see if i can make this clear to you. the bible is only valid to those who accept it's validity
fvck you, your bible, and your petty, vindictive pr1ck god.
clear enough?
Bernice King in 2004:
"I know deep down in my sanctified soul that he [MLK] did not take a bullet for same-s.ex unions."
So in your wobbly world, King CHOSE to get shot, over the issue he wanted to be shot for?
Nobody is perfect.
@ oxymoron: your argument is with Bernice King, MLK's daughter. All I did was quote her.
Read more...
"Clearly, I side with Coretta Scott King in her assessment of King's support of LGBT rights. I know in my sanctified heart that King put his life at stake for social injustice everywhere."
http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/blogs/bostonspirit/2012/01/martin_luther_kings_dream_incl.html
Taking modern day political advice from presidents and activists of generations ago is like asking Newton to advise on string theory. All this What would George Washington do? And What would MLK nonsense is ludicrous. We live in a modern world in which not only do we know all sorts of things they didn't know, but conditions are very different. Admiring the great players in history is one thing, but looking to them for advise just means you haven't been paying attention.
@ End Religion: your quote is misattributed. my quote was from Bernice King, your quote was from your linked article's author, who is merely openly admitting his bias.
I wasn't insinuating my quote should be attributed to Bernice, and didn't attribute it to anyone. I quoted the article to interest people in reading more from the article because its entirety thumps your tiny quote.
@ End Religion: thumps? at best your article pits MLK's wife against his daughter. even the opening of the article says "the debate rages on..."
i wonder if bernice would think that daddy took a bullet for interracial marriage
the prohibition on gays marriage will fall to the 14th amendment, the same way the prohibition on interracial marriage fell.
good riddance
Where did she say that she was against same-s.ex marriages in this quote?
How many Presidents beat off looking at the voluptuous women of their illustrated Bibles? Even the old Sears catalogs couldn't come close to the Bible.
If I say "Higgs Boson" enough, people which think I am all sciencey schmarty, just like they think I am all literary due to the diarrhetoric I hershey-squirt out.
Who cares what the president swears on? Bush swore on a Bible and talked to God "all the time" and was a disaster as president. Jimmy Carter may have been our most religious president. Ask Republicans what good that did.
Observer,
Instead of just placing their hand on it, they should read it.
Robert Brown,
All Christians should be required to read the Bible.
Good point Observer!
When Christians read the Bible they learn that gay coitus and gay marriage are a sin!
They learn that vulture capitalism is a sin!
They learn that charity to the poor and disadvantaged are held in high esteem by Jesus!
Finally, they learn that God can save the sinner...but the sinner has to repent from sin!
Observer...glad that you encourage Bible reading by Christians....it will help many to learn about the sin of gay coitus
and the sin of gay marriage!
Thanks,
Douglas
Douglas
Yes, if Christians actually read all of the Bible they'd see what world-class HYPOCRITES many of them are for picking on gays for an abomination like eating lobster and shellfish while ignoring their Ten Commandment SIN of adultery.
When I spent all that time talking about how people need to focus on their own behavior and attitudes, you can safely take that to mean it is a priority.
When I spent absolutely no time talking about gays or abortion, you can safely take that to mean it is not at all a priority.
So look in the mirror and see who I was talking about when I told people to get their shit together! When you start obeying all my rules, then you can start casting the first stone. So go sell your goods and give the money to the poor. Now.
Jesus,
Amen.
Doogie: No, they will find out that the Iron Age sheep molesters who wrote the bible thought that gay coitus was a sin. They no more insight into the mind of god than anyone else. As far as gay marriage, marriage is a civil right. To deny people their civil rights is bigotry. To use the bible to do so is pious bigotry.
Searching for Higgy Bosons ,,,,,,
just cut out your frontal lobe, Lionylamb - you're not using it anyway.
It could be lost in someone's figgy pudding.
What now?
I believe if they had more women working on this they would have figured it all out by now.
Now, now, Archie, everyone knows that all women are harlots and tramps who are too dumb to know their own cycles!
Shhush Tom, now you've made a certain someone start from the beginning in their computations. And keep those legs together and closed for business!
Chastise me for objectifying women but if I'm going to try to understand a scientific topic, I'd rather ogle a female stringing words I don't understand together into concepts I can't quite grasp.
Oh Tom, I think LL has found his perfect match and a compromise. Newton. Very feminine face and probably keeps his legs together during business hours. So all this is about LL figuring out a way to bring her hmm, excuse me, *Sir* Isaac back from the dead.