By Susannah Cullinane, CNN
London (CNN) - Rupert Murdoch has apologized for a "grotesque, offensive" cartoon of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu published in Britain's Sunday Times.
The cartoon by Gerald Scarfe depicts Netanyahu atop an incomplete brick wall with screaming Palestinians and body parts in the mortar. Netanyahu is holding what appears to be a bloody builder's trowel and the wall's mortar is colored red. The wording beneath reads: "Israeli Elections, Will Cementing Peace Continue?"
The cartoon was published on Holocaust Memorial Day on Sunday and prompted complaints that it was anti-Semitic and insensitive.
No more settlements,no more apartheid no more violence. It's not that hard the problem is those right wing lucid idiots don't want peace. They believe there superior to Palestinians and that land is there's by Devine right. If they stopped building settlements Hamas would loose there power but like I seid those right wing idiots are sabotaging peace.
"No more settlements,no more apartheid no more violence."
Funny thing about winning multiple wars, the winners tend to think they own the land they win. Maybe if the Germans asked to do a redo, they can get Austria back from WWII.
Aparthied? Are you familar with the Druze and Palestinians that are citizens in Israel? They seem to do pretty well. You obviously can't be talking aboout the West Bank and Gaza since they border Jordan and Egypt as well as Israel.
Your not very bright.
Big Shiz- "Your not very bright."
I'm not a light bulb.
You're not very intelligent.
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their was nothing anti Semitic about it,, its truth he is building a wall around all of Israel from the blood of the Palestinians
No..that is not true. In fact, it's a bold face lie.
yeah i have been to Palestine i have seen the walls of Gaza,.. have you
by wall i mean every one in the world will soon turn on Israel for the treatment of the Palestinians its just a matter of time he is essentially isolating Israel
you build walls to keep other out and you wall your self in. Israel is going to fall and its Israel's fault.
I've been to the wall and seen first hand its effects. You know what they are? Greater security for israeli citizens and a clear sign that israel won't take terrorism lying down. Israel has a right to defend itself in any way possible.
Are you this outraged that we have a wall on the southern border with Mexico? More people die trying to scale that and it's not even to do the US harm, they just want to live here.
"yeah i have been to Palestine i have seen the walls of Gaza,.. have you"
I have been to Gaza, Israel, Egypt, Jordan and the Golan. I have met Palestinians, Druze and Jews that were Israeli citizens and living well. I have saw Palestinians living bad due to their crappy Hamas led govt. Israel uses what they can to protect their citizens...Arab, Druze and Jewish. Pity that the Hamas doesn't take the money they use for rockets and invest it in their schools, hospitals and infrastructure.
"Greater security for israeli citizens.."
D@MN straight! The walls on the eastern part of Israel is a terrible but needed thing. It's amazing how few suicide bombers have struck Israel coming from the West Bank since those walls went up. Heck, I was on Ben-Yehuda Street in Jerusalem less than a month before a suicide bomber blew himself up there. Reports say he came from the West Bank.
No functional 2 state solution has ever been proposed.
Only options where Israel was given all the best land, control of all water supplies and ports, and a stranglehold on all Palestinian land, lots of easy ways to cripple them at any time. There was no serious offer ever on the table that Israel accepted.
This has been a decades long ballet – we try making a proposal of something that could work, Israel cripples it with conditions that make it impossible, Palestinians give their options that Israel rejects, then both sides posture as if they've given the perfect reasonable solution – until one crazed bomber gives Israel the opportunity to act like he represents all Palestinians, and responds with wild scattered retaliation that kills innocent Palestinians, creates more enemies (what would you do if some Mexicans were randomly killing Americans, and killed your innocent child?) for them to count on for next time, lather, rinse, repeat.
Personally, I put more on Israel – look at the death toll between the two sides – it's massively lopsided, insanely so. They're killing extra while hardly at all at threat. They bombed a UN relief site with banned weapons – a site that just had food. They're constantly building (with gov't dollars) on sites that negotiations had as part of the Palestinian state. I don't buy at all that this is just accidental.
Your only sort of wrong, but still wrong.
A 2 state solution has been proposed, and Israel does cripple it with some conditions (basically that they demand the right to keep all of jersusalem and make it the capital).
The Palestinians however have NEVER agreed to a 2 state solution, even before israel put any conditions on it. The Palestinians have always held that either the israeli's leave or they die, but they will never share the land. Until the Palestinians will actually sit down at the table and accept the fact that they won't have Israel handed back to them without a fight, the two state solution will go no where.
"Personally, I put more on Israel – look at the death toll between the two sides – it's massively lopsided, insanely so. They're killing extra while hardly at all at threat. They bombed a UN relief site with banned weapons – a site that just had food. They're constantly building (with gov't dollars) on sites that negotiations had as part of the Palestinian state. I don't buy at all that this is just accidental."
- Some is accidental, but you are not looking at the *why* the death tolls are one sided. Israel has smaller death tolls because they defend themselves better. They have better weaponry, the iron dome and better military training. If Mexico had declared that they will keep lobbing bombs and trying to kill Americans until they all left Texas, would you expect the US to tie their hands behind their backs and make it more even? NO! That's not how war works, especially with an enemy bent on your destruction. You fight with everything you got and eliminate the threat. Have the israeli's always been beacons of justice? Nope. Have they made mistakes? Definitely. But when Hamas is using hospitals and schools as launching pads, literally using children as human shields, innocents get caught in the crossfire, but who's to blame there? The israeli who fired the bullet or the palestinian who picked up the child and put them in harms way?
Oh well, , because killing kids bought Israel at least another generation of strife with your tax dollars.
Yeah, because Hamas shooting hundreds of missiles from behind their children has brought peace right?
They wanted you to shoot back at the kids. That's how they keep the region enraged and recruitment up. That generation of children will likely never forget/forgive because from their viewpoint Israels blowing up them and their families.
Poltergeist- "They wanted you to shoot back at the kids. That's how they keep the region enraged and recruitment up. That generation of children will likely never forget/forgive because from their viewpoint Israels blowing up them and their families."
What's the alternative? Just let them shoot thousands of rockets without being challenged? Thankfully their are many nations that can see the sham that Hamas is trying to pull by putting their citizens in harm's way.
Sounds like a most accurate cartoon. No wonder he's offended.
Today political prisoner Samer Issawi has been on hunger strike for 190 days in an Israeli prison. He is one of 6 Palestinian political prisoners on hunger strike; Ayman Sharawna has been on hunger strike a total of 200 days since 1st of July. He suspended his hunger strike when Israel promised to release him, but has continued to it after Israel has continued to keep him imprisoned.
The world media is silent of their struggle, out of deference towards Israel media self-censorships itself. That must end and the story of the hunger strikers must be told.
There should be no west bank no Gaza and no Palestinians in Israel. All the land from the wadi of Egypt to the Euphrates belongs to Israel. If a terrorist wants to starve himself, so be it. For the number of days quoted It doesn't seem its any good at it.
tbt, the bible mentions more than just the tribe of Israel in that area – why do you feel that Israel has sole rights? Also the occupied territories were not part of the UN resolution that created modern Israel – why do you feel that the Palestinians are not entitled to live in the lands not taken from them by that same UN resolution?
Israel only owns all of the Palestinian land on the day we give back all of America to the Indians.
Really, let's say the Indians come back here, and say, hey, we used to live here, and start booting us out. Are we going to just sit there and accept it? Even if they were nice about it, gave us a place in their gov't? No bloody way! That's the place the Palestinians were put in.
Israel is the only people left in the land who are the oldest inhabitants. All the others are long gone. The palestinians are the dregs and outcasts of nearby arab lands that were driven out as unwanted and had there not been a sea they would have been pushed even farther west. No one in their own lands wanted them and they sure don't want them back. They were never the "original" inhabitants of the land. Truth be told the land should be all Israel and only Israel.
truth be told,
Then the USA should be given back to the original inhabitants too - the American Indians, right?!
Because he'd be negatively affected.
Israel and Netanyahu deserve all the criticism it takes and the cartoon has no connection whatsoever with any "blood libel" stuff. It just shows a war criminal at work.
Defending the land God gave you from terrorists and trespassers does not const.itute war crime. It should all be free Israel.
once again truth be mold shows what a complete ignorant ass she is, fairy tales aside.
yo TBT does that include any land on witch was giving by devinity
so Lets free Ireland take back the country the old everliving ones fought the fomorii for us to have,.. in fact lets kill all the white people who took the land the great spirit raised natives of America on
Since when was the UN God?
The Middle East: they all deserve each other!
We need to get out. Hell, in 40 or 50 years their oil reserves will be depleted, and we can go back to totally ignoring their madness, so let's just get an early start on that.
Israel is not a major plyaer in the oil world.
Can you imagine what the pro-Israel lobby in this country woould be saying if the Palestinians were in power nad were treating the Israelis like the Israelis have treated them?
Situational ethics is hilarious to behold.
I guess it's a tough situation because if the Palestinians did treat the israelis the way the israeli's currently treat the palestinains that would actually be a step in improving the relations.
Keep in mind the "treatment" your speaking of is not completely israeli driven. The Palestinians have decided that they would rather stay refugees until the israelis leave instead of compromise. The Arab states around would rather have a scapegoat to hate israel by keeping palestinians down rather than incorporate them into their own countries and help them.
Look at what happened when Israel, in a move that has never happened in the history of the world, actually gifted land to the palestinians (the gaza strip) as a show of good will. The palestinians took it, destroyed the already built in infrastructure, refuse to develop other parts of the land and started lobbing bombs at israel.
I'm not super pro israel, or zionist and I am very very aware that the israeli's have done some pretty terrible things, but lets get real here, the situation wouldn't be reveresed because the jews who settled israel favor peace over war and favor compromise.
Curious...who should get the land?
There never was a Palestinian nation so it cannot go to them.
Hey, how about we give it back to the Brits. No, they gave it to the UN to give to Israel, Jordan..etc.
How about we give it back to the Turks? That should go over well with the Palestinians. They could be part of a revised Ottoman Empire.
"The palestinians took it, destroyed the already built in infrastructure,.."
I am glad you pointed that out Chuckles. When Israel left, Gaza could have picked right up but idiots didn't want that.
The worse thing about Gaza is it has such potential. They sit against two of the most touristed areas in the world. They have a border with the Med. Sea. With the right leadership, they could be the Monaco of the Easter Med.
Run a major highway from Tel Aviv to Alexandria, open up tourist areas, bring in archaeology again, let the cruise ships come in and have a place to port...get rid of your leadership you have right now! They are not interested in growing Gaza..they are interested in cutting down Israel.
That's actually a very good point. I'm very pro-Palestine but the current Hamas government is far too busy trying to damage Israel instead of trying to improve Palestine.
To answer your first question, who gets the land? I say Israel by simple right of conquest. It would be one thing if Israel was given the land and then had british protection ever since, but the israeli's have fought and paid for this land in blood in multiple wars and have succeeded in hanging on to it. I think a two state solution would be best, but its ridiculous at this point to expect the Israelis to pack up and move somewhere else.
As to your second post, THANK YOU! people seem to focus on the plight of the palestinians in gaza and refuse to understand that the palestinians are the ones that are keeping themselves refugees. They could pick themselves up, install a government like Fatah that is about national unity but isn't has hardlined as Hamas, develop the beaches and other infrastructure and really create a beautiful place. Instead they choose to remain in squalor and gain international support to try and oust Israel.
@Chuckles- I agree. Israel fought for that stretch of land from day one. The other nations around them (many created from similar mandates that created Israel) attacked them multiple times and couldn't care a bit for the Palestinians. It wasn't till Egypt lost the Sinai, Jordan lost the West Bank/Jerusalem, Syria lost the Golan and Leb. lost some of their land that they all started to scream for a truce. It was all fine and dany as long as the Palestinians were losing their land and homes in those wars.
And that "squalor" isn't even legit in a way. The Gaza Strip has a higher standard of living than most (if not all) of Africa. Gaza shares their border with Egypt and Egypt didn't help them out but they love to put the blame on Israel all the time.
History is also a funny thing. Where were all the "free Palestine" ppl back when Jordan ruled the West Bank for decades? Or when Egypt ruled Gaza?
Where was the outrage when the Jordanians allowed the Tiferet Yisrael Synagogue to be destroyed? When Israel touchs anything that could be deemed Islamic..the media goes freakin nuts.
The arabs turned down a two state in 1948 and then tried to wipe every jew off the map, however this did not work out for these arabs.
Do not buy in to the arab rewrite of history do not let them pull the wool over your eye's as they have done to many in the west.
The arabs will never be happy until there are no jews in the land or the jews are subservient to the arabs.
Remember these are the same people who strap bombs to their own children ,launch rockets from densely populated areas intentionally causing the deaths of their own people to drum up support and they also have murdered innocent athletes in a Olympic village during an Olympics.
Why anyone of western values would want these backward people as our ally over Israel I will never understand.
Completely 100% agree. It grosses me out when people make statements while ignoring the true quadmire that the ME is and use anti-zionist rhetoric as if it has merit. I think at this point it is political with religous motivation.
Personally I think the only solution (once the palestinians actually sit down at the negotiating table) is a two state solution where the West Bank, Gaza, and the Golan are Palestinian, and everything else is Israeli excluding Jerusalem which becomes an international city under the protection of UN forces. It is far from perfect, especially that last part, mostly because the UN still has Israel and Palestine in it, the UN is not a soveriegn nation so the laws would be iffy at best, the UN does not have enough power to control any land at the moment without tripping over itself, and Israel will never give up Jerusalem (and the Kotel) without a fight and spilling blood.
A great reply. :)
@Chuckles- I could only agree with the two-state solution if the infrastructure of the Palestinians improved by leaps and bounds. Right now I lean toward a three-state solution. Israel should reward the West Bank and support the Fatah govt when it can. Encourage the West Bank to cut away from being responsible for Gaza.
If Gaza cannot get their act together and be their own nation, then maybe they should try to incorporate into Egypt. But really...would Egypt want them right now?
For me..the Golan is a non-topic. Israel needs to keep it. Not so much because of the Palestinians but for such groups like the Syrians. The Golan is such a strategic area. I remember being on the top edge above the Galilee and you could see all the way to the sea. Who needs high tech equipment when you can see the entire nation spread out before you like that?
Jerusalem is a sticky spot..that I agree. I can't see Israel giving it up or sharing it equally with the Palestinians. Part of me wishes that the Palestinians would continue to develop Hebron or Bethlehem and make one of them their capitol. Again, going back to the "develop what you got" mentality. If the West Bank could form a self sufficient nation that would include trade with not only Israel but Jordan as well, I think that would do more for their ppl than anything the Hamas in Gaza could do for them.
meifumado- "The arabs will never be happy until there are no jews in the land or the jews are subservient to the arabs."
I cannot exactly agree with that. Many Palestinians are Israeli and have a pretty nice life in Israel.
I am a believer of the 99% Rule. 99% of all ppl just want to have a happy life, good job and a safe place to have a family. It's the 1% that stir up crap and drap the other 99% into taking sides they would normally not take.
I think that most of the Palestinians suffer from not having their own version of George Washington. A leader that can rise up and take the risks needed to make the ppl stronger but have the good sense to know their limits. A leader that is not in it for his own power or ego but a true patriot of the nation he is trying to secure. Sadly, most of the Palestinian leadership does not meet that image. Not to mention a great deal of the Middle Eastern world doesn't fit that image either.
The closest for me is the govt of Jordan after Israel. Jordan might talk a big game, but they know where they stand in the world.
Interesting, I've never really considered a 3 state solution. a Fatah controlled west bank, a Hamas controled gaza and the rest is israel. Something tells me easier said than done but definitely a good idea and an insteresting spin. I also agree that that in order for anything to work, the Palestinians MUST start developing instead of choosing to live as refugees to garner international support.
I agree that the Golan is probably one of the most strategic land grabs that Israel made in the war and should keep it for defense, but if the Palestinians were to honestly sit down, start talking about a solution and really made good on developing and trying to actually become a model country, it could be worth it to give up in order for peace. It shouldn't be like gaza though where the israelis gave it up as a show of good faith and were rewarded with more bombs on city centers.
As for Jerusalem, maybe there is no answer, maybe we should literally evacuate the place and bomb the whole thing, wipe it out. Maybe that will finally unite Israeli and Palestinians to stop such a thing from happening.
"As for Jerusalem, maybe there is no answer, maybe we should literally evacuate the place and bomb the whole thing, wipe it out. Maybe that will finally unite Israeli and Palestinians to stop such a thing from happening."
Ever see "Kingdom of Heaven" set during the Crusades? The hero (depending on one's POV) is protecting Jerusalem from Saladin's forces. They meet to negotiate and basically threatens to destroy Jerusalem utterly if Saladin attacks. Saladin (whom they portray very nicely) wonders aloud if that wouldn't be a good idea.
Jerusalem is such a wonderful city though. I would hate to see any of it destroyed. The inside of the Dome of the Rock is breathtaking and when you consider it's age...it's amazing.
Maybe uncle Rupert should spend a few months in Gaza, he will probably change his anti-Israel opinion then...
I think seeing the oppression first-hand would cement his views rather than altering them.
Rupert is a goon, I never supported him, but why should he spend few months in Gaza? Why not Netanyahu few months in Palestinian refugee camps?
Agree with Rational Lib.
What oppression? You mean by Hamas?
Nope, the oppression of the Palestinian people by the 'State of Israel'. Apartheid 2.0 is what I refer to the situation as.
Then I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. The "apartheid 2.0" state as you put it is anti-israel rhetoric and completely ignores what is actually happening in Gaza at the moment. I would be remiss to say that Israel is entirely blameless, we both know that is not the case. But in Gaza at the moment when you have an elected government fomenting anti-israel revolution all the time, lobbing rockets at israel while using hospitals and schools as shields. Destroying built in infrastructure and not looking to develope any new infrastructure either, a) can you really blame the israeli's for being so tense and occupying territory of a known enemy and b) say the palestinains are entirely culpable? It's a vicious cycle, the more israelis ramp up security, the more terrorists it creates by intruding on the palestinians lives. The less security, the greater freedom it gives to terrorists to move about the territory and fire rockets into Israel.
Why should israel tie their hands behind their back and make it a more even fight? When has that ever been a rule in war?
I think the actions of Hamas are, at times, deplorable, particularly their use of hospitals as shields. But they are the oppressed people, they are the ones whose homeland has been occupied by a bunch of mostly white Europeans whose ancestors left hundreds of years ago.
Anyway, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Look at Mandela. He militarized the ANC. He was directly involved in the murder of civilians. But he had a just cause. So do the Palestinians.
Interesting, but A) South Africa was never a warring nation that wanted to split itself in two and B) Mandela might not have been completely peaceful, but his goal was for peace and unity. Hamas's goal is to not accept anything less than complete removal of the israeli state. They won't deal or compromise, they won't sit down at the negotiating table. Like I said, Israel is not entirely blameless and they have also done and still do things that are antagonistic, but the true oppression of the Palestnians has come from within and by the arab neighbors as well as the Israeli's.
What do you propose Israel does in this situation? They have engineered a spot for themselves where if they unilaterally pull out, they are seen as making a mess without cleaning it up, they also leave Hama, a known and avowed enemy of Israeli, completely unrestricted to create havoc and rain down missles on Israel. If they stay, they are the oppressors and are accused of creating an apartheid state, but they preemptively protect themselves from many would be attacks.
I don't know, I haven't enough knowledge of the situation nor am I impartial enough to suggest any valid long-term solutions. Obviously, in my opinion at least, the two-state solution seems most reasonable yet it's the solution neither side want. In the short-term though, Israel really needs to stop settlement expansion.
I agree settlement expansion needs to end now. It's antagonistic and moves away from peace. However you are wrong about the two state solution. Israel fully endorses it, the caveat is that they keep Jerusalem. That's the only thing standing in the way of any plan that's been put on the table. The Palestinians meanwhile have rejected every 2 state solution brought forth. They have said time and time again they will not accept a two state solution. Either Israel gives back all the land and leaves the ME or the Palestinians will remain refugees until that happens.
How can you have strong feelings for one side or the other without knowing the facts or studying the situation? I can understand that the average Palestinian is having a very rough time, but it's not just at the hands of the israeli's and the situation is too complicated to just look at it from far away and see, Palestinians in refugee camps, Israeli's are not, ipso facto the israelis are occupiers
I have studied the situation, just not religiously. You could do a Bachelors, Masters and PhD on the topic and still not be qualified to judge the situation.
I agree, I wasn't sure how much you studied, but you're right that even a PHD would have a really tough being well versed in everything.
If the gaza arabs are doing so bad why are their leaders all fat?
Why has their population gone up by leaps and bounds?
Why have they not smuggled in things they could use to live instead of rockets?
Have you seen the villas their leaders have ( with swimming pools ) ?
Wipe away the wool my friend they have blinded you.
Benjamin Netanyahu =Mohammad =Can't draw cartoons.
It is usually the point of political satire to be insensitive, and offense is often taken at uncomfortable truths. If Israel really thinks it is brokering peace, then let's see them try it without their giant wall and razorwire fences.
I'm the last person to want to defend a Rupert Murdoch publication, but the first principle of a free press has to be the right to criticize and satirize politicians and government policy.
The timing of the cartoon was clearly insensitive – which is a issue for the editorial team, not the cartoonist.
There is a clear distinction between criticizing the government and policies of the state of Israel and being anti-Semitic. The state of Israel prides itself in being a secular state and not a theocracy. This is a sham if they hide behind religion when their policies are criticized.
Those who don't know the difference between anti-Semetic and anti-Israel are either idiots or purposefully ignorant.
Can't say anything about Israel without them crying "anti Semite!!"
like can't say anything about blacks without being labelled a racist,
can't say anything about gays without being labelled a bigot,
can't draw a cartoon of the profit mahmood which btw might cost you your head ever thought of that????
There's a clear distinction between criticizing a nation's policies and criticizing an entire group of people. Obviously whatever you have to say couldn't possibly apply to all blacks or all gays.
@pc,the right wing Jews always act as if anyone says anything bad about the way Israel treats Palestinians there attacking jewish people as a whole.
Pray without ceasing in 2013
Prayer changes things
Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.
An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!
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