By Ben Brumfield, CNN
A California judge has forced the Archdiocese of Los Angeles to release some 12,000 pages of church documents revealing how it handled allegations of priest sexual abuse.
There were many - 192 priests and bishops were named in litigation, the archdiocese said.
"The cases span decades," Archbishop Jose H. Gomez said in a statement Thursday. Some go back to the 1930s.
Many who know the Torah / bible will know of the the phrase The Abomination that cause desolation, well factually this is the cathloic pagans and all other christian religions – this is a fact.
The people of Los Angeles should be on the phone to the Los Angeles District Attorney (screaming at the top of their lungs) demanding that Mahony be prosecuted. They've got bigger fish to fry than Lindsey Lohan.
Billy boy is usually on a story like this like flies on a fresh turd. His story goes like this; the media and courts are picking on the RCC by reporting the filth our Men of Honor (or is that just the Mafia branch of the RCC) get up too. Come on Billy time to defend your delusion yet again.
I find it interesting that the blogs are not full of church "apologists" as they usually are. Could it be, that there is really nothing to say in defense of Mahony and his ilk?
The USCCB condemns "Obamacare" because they will be required to provide birth control to their employees....... the USCCB likes to put on the "holier than thou" shroud but there is nothing HOLY about the hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church!
Must be a little harder to spin....
"Files may reveal what the Catholic Church in Los Angeles knew about s.ex abuse"
Would that be the Pedo-Files?
I imagine the movie rights are being bargained for as we speak. True to classic Hollywood form it will be "based on a true story" except we'll find out the Catholic Pedo-Files were really all planted by the Illuminati. Perhaps Tom Hanks will play the lead in redefining this history as well. And the kids who were abused? I'm sure Hollywood will imply they are simply plants from the Bilderburg Group who were trying to gain control over the Catholic Treasury.
I bet the Catholic Church is busy Enronning the documents.
Having all the guilty pedo priests thrown into a shredder would be the best way for them to clean up the Church...
No surprise..after all we are talking about the Catholic Church. Is anybody really shocked or surprised????? If you are Catholic you support the churches actions
they thought they were untouchable umm ha ha ha ha ha
Bad news: Tod Tamberg is quoted in the LA Times February 1st as saying Mahony can vote on pope until he turns 80.
1. In 1962, The Vatican relased the 'Crimen Sollicitationis', which outlined how the church is to handle accusations of se.xual impropriety against clergy.
The stickiest point for most people is that not only was the doc.ument itself Top Secret for decades, it explictly stated that anybody involved in this type of investigation, including the accuser and potential witnesses, are sworn to secrecy regarding any and all details, upon penalty of excommunication (a fate worse than death for the devout).
This preoccupation with secrecy significantly slowed the investigative process – the backlog of referrals to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith for action against se.xually abusive priests is so large that it takes 18 months to get a reply.
According to the John Jay report, 918 of 1872 (49%) substantiated allegations of abuse against Catholic clergy were addressed by sending the priest off for psychiatric counseling and then moving him to another parish, with nary a whisper to law enforcement. This number does not include priests relocated for reasons other than charges of se.xual impropriety.
The Roman Catholic Church is guilty of criminal conspiracy. Until the Pope publically and unequivocally states that all allegations of abuse will immediately be referred to local law enforcement, the RCC will be viewed as an evil, predatory inst.itution by a large portion of the world.
The problem with these allegations is that there is absolutely no proof. Is there DNA evidence? Who knows how many innocent priests have become victims of false accusation . When the motive is money, everything else is suspect. Thanks to all those priests that served in truth.
If they have nothing to hide, then why are they hiding everything?
FYI – there could be proof other than DNA.
Even circu.mstancial evidence is enough to convict if there is enough of it, and there is. The Catholic church itself should be held responsible as this was an insti.tutional conspiracy.
And don't forget a large part of the reason child r@pists were allowed to get away with their abuse was that the church hid and contiinues to hide the evidence that could have convicted them. That is the sick organization you support.
You should be ashamed of yourself for implying that all the accusers were lying for money.
"When the motive is money, everything else is suspect."
The church had plenty of motive to hide evidence and child rapists then didn't they....and yet you defend them? You are a POS.
You defend the child rapists in LA?
But I don't wanna believe it!! Waaa Waaa waaaa!!! My God would never allow his servants to prey on the children and the weak!! My God designed our bodies so that even the youngest among us can "shut that 'hole' thing down" when it is a legitimate r a p e...
Todd Atkins is an abomination. Thank goodness he lost.
"Allegations"???? Are you daft?! The hierarchy has been hiding and abetting pedophiles and other abusers for centuries.
But.....okay...... you go ahead and live in denial!
Is not the allure of young boys in the choir that attracted these gay pedophiles in the first place?The Boy Scouts are trying to protect their troops ,from the horrible lessons,that unfortunately ,the catholic church covered up for decades.
These are pedophiles. They are not gay. They are pedophiles. Period.
Not all who are abused by priests are boys.
I agree, MWIN.
I do wish people would learn the difference, and know that, in fact, girles are raped by priests, as well.
Well arn't you the ignorant fvck today.....
Saying "gay pedophile" is like saying "white pedophile" or "black pedophile" where the descriptive word has no relevence and actually detracts from the story.
Pedophile = child r a p i s t
Christian who uses the term "gay pedophile" = ignorant bigot.
Say it isnt so!
Maybe it was all of the classes that the pope gave on how to diddle little boys.
Hey diddle diddle,
The Pope wants to fiddle,
The sow hu.mped Oliver Moon,
The other priests laughed to see such sport,
And the Pope ran away from the p o o n...
Obviously, pedaphiles are looking for the perfect ways to prey on their victims. Becoming a priest is the perfect guise to be a "wolf in sheep's clothing". Other guises may include coaches, teachers, daycare workers, family friends, or just about any position that gains them automatic trust from parents. I highly doubt that this only happens to clergy of the Catholic church, but they always end up in the spotlight over other religions. I really don't trust the news media to give a balanced report regarding any religion.
Just as you shouldn't trust any religion to give you a balanced report on whether its god exists.
And once again, the Catholic Church's pre-occupations in dealing with cases of child se.xual abuse, are the maintenance of secrecy, the avoidance of scandal, the protection of the reputation of the Church, and the preservation of its as.sets. All other considerations, including the welfare of children and justice for victims, are subordinated to these priorities.
And what part of canada is Los Angeles in? Has anyone told you to mind your own business today, let me be the first, if canada don't want ya you ain't sh it to US. There's your sign.
Captain troll, you don't think there are priests in Canada, also?
Just because this story is focused on LA, doesn't mean there isn't the same problem in Canada...there's your sign.
High fives, Akira.
Pray without ceasing in 2013
Prayer changes things
Praying and preying just seem to go hand in hand.
The Bible should be banned!
Here are several really loving excerpts from the Torah; the first five books of the Old Testament in the bible - perhaps read to the congregation on Friday night at a synagogue or a Sunday morning church in the meadow.
1. Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10
2. Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16
3. Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7.
Rabbinical / Priestly rules:
Leviticus 21:17-18 … “No one who is blind or lame or has a defect or any blemish may approach to offer the bread of his God.”
Leviticus 18:22 … “You are not to go to bed with a man as with a woman; it is an abomination ….”
Rabbis; the pope and churches fully aware that Leviticus 18:22 applies to rabbis and priests … refuse to remove this stigma maliciously persecuting gays. Kids are being bullied into suicide …!
Being black, left-handed or being gay is just as natural. It is a sometimes rare occurrence to fall in Love and to hold that person in your heart and be loved in return ... it is something that should be celebrated! If it’s between two guys or two girls - all the better. It takes even more courage to defend that LOVE!
Simon says: You're an idiot!!
Unfortunately, the Catholic Church has done a horrific job of weeding out priests with gay tendencies.
The result has been gay priests engaging in the wicked sin of gay coitus with thousands of innocent youth,
now irreparably damaged by these filthy, nasty, acts of sin.
The Bible in both the Old and New Testaments warned us of the danger of the gay lifestyle and the sin of gay coitus
and our failure to obey God has reaped a harvest of shame, AIDS, and death.
These priests should be tried, convicted, and sentenced to a life of hard labor until dead, after which they can burn in hell.
No sin in numbers = no sin or hell.
Are you aware of the differences in gay as opposed to a pedophile ?
Besides "gay coitus", Doogie frequently likes to use the word "fornication". Don't expect him to know very much.
You have still not learned the difference between gay and pedophile, have you, philip Douglas?
You have been told time and again of the differences, but you still hold on to your beliefs...which is fine, except you're spreading false information.
That you would call raping boys "gay coitus" just illustrates how truly out of touch with reality you are.
I like you alter-ego "December" much better.
"These priests should be tried, convicted, and sentenced to a life of hard labor until dead, after which they can burn in hell."
Don't forget, they can ask for forgivness from your "just" god in which case you will spend eternity in heaven with them.
Pedophiles are NOT GAY! You comment is hateful and ignorant!
This person is so focused on gay people's sex lives that he cannot differentiate the difference between what two consenting adults do and the crime of child rape...and he mostly never will; he is a bigot, plain and simple.
Simon says: Gays are hateful and ignorant
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