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February 7th, 2013
05:24 AM ET

Boy Scouts delay gay ban

The Boy Scouts are delaying a vote on lifting its ban on gay membership. Is the Mormon church behind the decision? CNN's Erin Burnett reports.

- A. Hawkins

Filed under: Mormonism

soundoff (301 Responses)
  1. pervert alert

    To allow qu eers in the boy scouts would be like housing foxes in chicken coups. Scoutmaster Sandusky? Que ers the folks who gave the world AIDS

    February 7, 2013 at 4:20 pm |
    • Liar Alert

      He's baaack!

      February 7, 2013 at 5:18 pm |
    • Ron

      ... and stupider than ever! :-)

      February 7, 2013 at 5:21 pm |
    • .

      Until recently, the origins of the HIV-2 virus had remained relatively unexplored. HIV-2 is thought to come from the SIV in Sooty Mangabeys rather than chimpanzees, but the crossover to humans is believed to have happened in a similar way (i.e. through the butchering and consumption of monkey meat). It is far rarer, significantly less infectious and progresses more slowly to AIDS than HIV-1. As a result, it infects far fewer people, and is mainly confined to a few countries in West Africa.

      In May 2003, a group of Belgian researchers published a report in Proceedings of the National Academy of Science. By analysing samples of the two different subtypes of HIV-2 (A and B) taken from infected individuals and SIV samples taken from sooty mangabeys, Dr Vandamme concluded that subtype A had passed into humans around 1940 and subtype B in 1945 (plus or minus 16 years or so). Her team of researchers also discovered that the virus had originated in Guinea-Bissau and that its spread was most likely precipitated by the independence war that took place in the country between 1963 and 1974 (Guinea-Bissau is a former Portuguese colony). Her theory was backed up by the fact that the first European cases of HIV-2 were discovered among Portuguese veterans of the war, many of whom had received blood transfusions or unsterile injections following injury, or had possibly had relationships with local women.

      Given the evidence we have already looked at, it seems highly likely that Africa was indeed the continent where the transfer of HIV to humans first occurred (monkeys from Asia and South America have never been found to have SIVs that could cause HIV in humans). In May 2006, the same group of researchers who first identified the Pan troglodytes troglodytes strain of SIVcpz, announced that they had narrowed down the location of this particular strain to wild chimpanzees found in the forests of Southern Cameroon . By analysing 599 samples of chimp droppings (P. T. troglodytes are a highly endangered and thus protected species that cannot be killed or captured for testing), the researchers were able to obtain 34 specimens that reacted to a standard HIV DNA test, 12 of which gave results that were virtually indistinguishable from the reactions created by human HIV. The researchers therefore concluded that the chimpanzees found in this area were highly likely the origin of both the pandemic Group M of HIV-1 and of the far rarer Group N. The exact origins of Group O however remain unknown.

      HIV Group N principally affects people living in South-central Cameroon, so it is not difficult to see how this outbreak started. Group M, the group that has caused the worldwide pandemic, was however first identified in Kinshasa, in the Democratic Repub lic of Con go. It is not entirely clear how it transferred from Cameroon to Kinshasa, but the most likely explanation is that an infected individual travelled south down the San gha river that runs through Southern Cam eroon to the River Con go and then on to Kin shasa; where the Group M epidemic probably began.

      Just as we do not know exactly who spread the virus from Cam eroon to Kin shasa, how the virus spread from Africa to America is also not entirely clear. However, recent evidence suggests that the virus may have arrived via the Cari bbean island of H aiti.

      February 7, 2013 at 5:22 pm |
    • The Truth

      "To allow 'gays' in the boy scouts would be like housing foxes in chicken coups." Seeing how being gay has nothing to do with pedophilia, your analogy would be closer to the truth if you said "To allow 'gays' in the boy scouts would be like housing sheep in chicken coups..."

      February 7, 2013 at 5:45 pm |
    • pervert alert

      Don't kid yourselves, when the grotesque sin of ho mose xuality is destroyed on the earth, the sin of pedophilia will be gone. Qu eers the people who gave the world AIDS.

      February 7, 2013 at 6:41 pm |
    • Fact

      saying "gay" pedofile is the same as saying "white" pedofile. The one has nothing to do with the other. The fact that pervert here can't see that just means in all likelyhood that as he was dropped on his head a lot as a baby, possibly his mother attempting to abort what she knew would be a pointless and frustratingly stupid life if allowed to survive.

      February 7, 2013 at 7:46 pm |
  2. newmember

    The BSA should let gays in. They will benefit from the new recruits. I'm sure all of N.A.M.B.L.A. will join as soon as the ban is lifted. Hooray for N.A.M.B.L.A. Hooray for equal rights.

    February 7, 2013 at 4:07 pm |
    • Saraswati

      People who say this stuff should j ust wear a sign around their necks reading "I am unaware that other countries exist, have never travelled, and don't know how to access foreign news on that scary internet." Seriously, scout troops around the world already let in gays and atheists. Hell, the Girl Scouts in the US have no such ban. If you want to know what happens, just look at other countries...nothing. So unless you're trying to make an argument that the US is somehow special, you've got nothing to go on.

      February 7, 2013 at 4:12 pm |
    • Ron

      You know, they let blacks in a while back and the world didn't end.

      February 7, 2013 at 5:24 pm |
  3. alias

    As was pointed out on the last page – with too much sarcasm that apparently destroyed the message – the chuildren joining the scouts are too young to have become aware of their preferences. By discriminating against gaya, you are going to cause problems for children when they reach p.uberty and realize they are gay.

    February 7, 2013 at 3:12 pm |
    • Richard Cranium

      Some children know their preference very early on. I was engaged to a beautiful blond girl with gorgeous blue eyes when I was five, in kindergarten. I also had parents that taught diversity and I had no problem understanding gay people as simply being different than me. Everyone is different from eveeryone else. It is through these differences we are a stonger community.

      February 7, 2013 at 3:18 pm |
    • Manny

      The people against gays joining think that it's a choice people make when they get older. They have to delude themselves into thinking this otherwise they are terrible, terrible people for treating gays the way that they do.

      Good thing that they KNOW that they're always right and good!

      February 7, 2013 at 3:19 pm |
    • Manny

      Richard
      The Christian Right doesn't believe in "diversity". When they hear "diversity" they think "sinfulness".

      February 7, 2013 at 3:22 pm |
  4. Name*hank

    Is that all you can say you must be talking about yourself. I bet you never went to college. And the typing is consing out wrong because. Of my finger is to big OK dum ass

    February 7, 2013 at 2:58 pm |
    • Satan

      Finger big enough to widen your ass a little? Because I'm going to be enjoying it soon.

      February 7, 2013 at 3:08 pm |
    • Mike Ornhole

      Hey Hank, when you are feelling a little down, take it to Mike Ornhole.

      When you are feeling tired and just need to unload, take it to Mike Ornhole.

      When confused and needing answers, take it to Mike Ornhole.

      Mike Ornhole has never let anyone down. Mike Ornhole is always open and accepting of others and will never shut his doors for a friend in need. And, when you least expect it, Mike Ornhole might just start giving back, giving everything he kept inside, never being selfish but pouring out his blessings upon the needy, like you Hank. Don't be shy, open up to Mike Ornhole and Mike Ornhole will open up to you...

      February 7, 2013 at 5:59 pm |
  5. HotAirAce

    Where's Topher when he's needed to settle his fellow believer(s) down. Can't we all just get along?

    February 7, 2013 at 2:55 pm |
  6. Name*hank

    Akita. You are a sad person. You have a problem. I will forgive you because your mind is so empty.

    February 7, 2013 at 2:51 pm |
    • Satan

      Listen, bitch. You are going to be noshing on my butt for eternity. Get ready.

      February 7, 2013 at 2:57 pm |
    • Akira

      Hamsta. The name is Akira, you moron. And you are living, breathing proof that inbreeding hasn't died out yet. I forgive you, too, with one caveat: get some education.

      February 7, 2013 at 5:40 pm |
  7. Name*hank

    So go ahead put God down say bad things to his people .live in the devils ways of lust. One day you'll know the truth. I am going to pray for you. JESUS. WILL FORGIVE YOU JUST ASK FOR FORGIVENESS

    February 7, 2013 at 2:46 pm |
    • Troll Hunter

      Same troll, same boring trollisms

      February 7, 2013 at 2:56 pm |
  8. Name*hank

    Every. Knee shall bow.and every tongh. Shall confess. When. You get mad its because. You have a unhappy life. Sad for you all

    February 7, 2013 at 2:39 pm |
    • Akira

      What is sad is that your level of education stagnated at the age of 15.
      Stop your useless testimony. You do no favors for Christianity.
      Oh, and Hamsta? Not one person here is "madd". That is your own guilty conscience think that way.

      February 7, 2013 at 2:45 pm |
    • Richard Cranium

      Learn English

      February 7, 2013 at 2:49 pm |
    • Manny

      What about vets who lost their knees? I suppose that God WILL cure an amputation for the purpose of making the legless grovel if he won't do it for them now?

      February 7, 2013 at 3:08 pm |
    • End Religion

      Hank still thinks telegraph main source of communication STOP Hank stupid STOP

      February 7, 2013 at 5:14 pm |
  9. Name*hank

    And you know you are reading what I say because. What I say is truth and if your Maddy it because. Satan. Is in you and the demons in your soul. Is disrupted. By the words of Christ. That's why. You get madd

    February 7, 2013 at 2:29 pm |
    • niknak

      I guess it is not English you are trying to use, but just some kind of troll-like language.
      Do they have Rosetta Stone for that one too?

      February 7, 2013 at 2:31 pm |
    • Akira

      Proving once again that it was an unwise decision to drop out of HS, Hamstahank.
      I'm reading your posts because they are vastly amusing! A primer in "the risk of quitting school after freshman year."

      February 7, 2013 at 2:42 pm |
  10. Name*hank

    Lolol the devils people. Are Madd bunch of losers LOL man the devil has you in his grip. But just remember one the you can ask for forgiveness. And say with your nasty mouths. The lords prayer and repent from your evil lives. Goodluck

    February 7, 2013 at 2:24 pm |
    • niknak

      Was that English you were attempting to write?

      February 7, 2013 at 2:26 pm |
    • Akira

      Who are you to decide who is evil and who isn't, Hamsta? You are the least qualified to judge a dog show, let alone another human being. Grow up, already. You haven't a clue. For all of your false piety, you remmain one of the silliest people to testify for Jesus. Shut up.

      February 7, 2013 at 2:29 pm |
  11. Name*hank

    Well it says a 3rd well burn in hell.now we know who

    February 7, 2013 at 2:17 pm |
    • Manny

      It's suppose to be 2/3 in hell. "Narrow is the way" and all that. It's really sad when atheists know more about your myths than you lot do.

      February 7, 2013 at 3:13 pm |
  12. hawaiiguest

    Why is anyone even responding to hank? Just let him post over and over until he tires his little troll fingers out.

    February 7, 2013 at 1:40 pm |
    • Akira

      He's too stupid to even erase the Name* before putting in his handle.

      February 7, 2013 at 1:52 pm |
  13. Name*hank

    Bootyfunk you are going to burn in hell

    February 7, 2013 at 1:35 pm |
    • Akira

      Hamsta, you insipid POS, shut up and get back to the lower 9th.

      February 7, 2013 at 1:46 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      ghandi is in hell. so is john lennon. i'd rather be tortured forever than than float around on clouds kissing god's @ss all day anyway.

      February 7, 2013 at 1:48 pm |
    • Manny

      Booty
      I think that people end up being God's snacks in heaven. They are the "wheat" to our "chaff", after all, and what do people do with wheat, but eat it! ;-)

      February 7, 2013 at 3:29 pm |
  14. Name*hank

    Bootyfunk that's a good name for you LOL. You stink like crap LOL sum ass

    February 7, 2013 at 1:33 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      you, sir, have no funk in your life. or educational opportunities, apparently.

      February 7, 2013 at 1:35 pm |
  15. Bootyfunk

    to stay prejudiced or not to stay prejudiced... it's such a hard decision. if you don't instill h.omophobia early, the kids may not learn to hate g.ay people. they may realize being g.ay is normal. wouldn't that be just terrible?

    February 7, 2013 at 1:33 pm |
  16. Name*hank

    Its Adam. And Eve not Adam and Steve dum ass

    February 7, 2013 at 1:30 pm |
    • Richard Cranium

      Then why is your god messing with people and putting female brains in males, and vice versa. Your god is a cruel vindictive pr!ck.

      February 7, 2013 at 1:33 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      i guess you prefer incest? adam and eve had children.... and then had s.ex with their children to populate the earth. it's a charming fairy tale.

      February 7, 2013 at 1:34 pm |
    • Akira

      There isn't a doubt in my mind that hank Hamsta has some incest going on in his family; look how uneducated he is.

      February 7, 2013 at 1:50 pm |
    • sam stone

      name*hank: jeebus is waiting to fill your mouth with his godly goodness. do you have a sidearm? don't keep the savior waiting

      February 7, 2013 at 2:15 pm |
  17. Name*hank

    All you gay people. Need to jump off a clif

    February 7, 2013 at 1:25 pm |
    • midwest rail

      Trolling should never be this boring.

      February 7, 2013 at 1:25 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      maybe they're waiting for the idiots to go first, Hank. and that'd be you.

      February 7, 2013 at 1:29 pm |
    • Manny

      Did you say "Jump a guy named Cliff"? ;-)

      February 7, 2013 at 3:33 pm |
    • End Religion

      That's what I heard, Manny. Hank wants to jump Cliff. Don't be shy, Hank.

      February 7, 2013 at 5:23 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      Yet another christian that wants someone else to die. Chad said this never happens.

      February 7, 2013 at 5:29 pm |
  18. Name*hank

    Wow there is a lot of evil gay people. When you talk about religion. They get mad and disrespect. Christ. That's proof that gays. And Satan go hand in hand. Sad

    February 7, 2013 at 1:21 pm |
    • midwest rail

      Please provide proof that all who responded to you are gay people.

      February 7, 2013 at 1:23 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      god is imaginary. so is satan.

      the only thing not imaginary here is your ignorance.

      February 7, 2013 at 1:35 pm |
  19. Name*hank

    And you will burn in hell.the stupid one is you.repent from your evil ways

    February 7, 2013 at 1:08 pm |
    • Richard Cranium

      Empty threats from an empty religion.

      February 7, 2013 at 1:12 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      no such thing as god. no such thing as hell. no such thing as the devil.

      those are all fairy tales. grow up.

      February 7, 2013 at 1:29 pm |
    • Akira

      I see they let your stupid ass out of jail. What a pity, butterball.

      February 7, 2013 at 1:54 pm |
    • sam stone

      Name*hank: Take your sidearm, blow a large hole in the back of your head, and go meet jeebus

      February 7, 2013 at 3:22 pm |
  20. John

    http://eaglesrant.com/perversion-and-the-boy-scouts-of-america/2077/seth-renfro

    February 7, 2013 at 12:00 pm |
    • Akira

      Compiled using old and flawed data. This is like using the 1990 census to decide things.
      Nice little opinion piece, which doesn't mean squat in the real world; that old saying comes to mind: opinions are like assholes. Everyone has got one.

      February 7, 2013 at 1:09 pm |
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