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My take: A word to Christians - Be nice
February 9th, 2013
10:00 PM ET

My take: A word to Christians - Be nice

Editor's note: John S. Dickerson is author of the book “The Great Evangelical Recession: 6 Factors that Will Crash the American Church ... and How to Prepare” and senior pastor of Cornerstone in Prescott, Arizona. Follow him on Facebook or Twitter @JohnSDickerson

By John S. Dickerson, Special to CNN

Last week a high-profile American writer and news personality asked me a painful question: “Hey pastor, can a Christian tweet hate?”

It was not a hypothetical question. He was asking because some of his 1.3 million Twitter followers claim to be “Christian,” and some of the meanest, most perverse hate-tweets he receives come from these self-proclaimed Christians.

We’ve all seen folks, Christian and otherwise, lose their cool in a Facebook face-off or in the comment section under a controversial news story. But as I scrolled through the “Christian” hate tweets to this news personality, I was baffled and ashamed by these so-called followers of Christ. One user describes himself not merely as Christian but as “sharing God’s message of Grace with everyone I encounter.” The messenger of Grace recently tweeted that he doesn’t merely hate this news personality, he despises and loathes him.

These are the moments when it’s embarrassing to be a Christian. I’m not embarrassed to believe the extravagant claims of Christianity: that Christ was born to a virgin, died for our sins, physically rose from the grave and is returning to rule the world. But I am embarrassed to be associated with some of the people who claim his name.

I have written in the past about the bad reputation that Christians have in America. Some argue that it comes from misrepresentation by the media. Others argue that “all who live godly will suffer persecution,” and that’s why we Christians have a poor reputation. Maybe there’s some truth to those claims, but we Christians have to acknowledge another reason why we are perceived as hateful: because many of our number are.

More and more, I see hateful Christians chalking up their disrepute to “persecution.” God tells us otherwise. In 1 Peter 4 we’re told, “If you are insulted because of the name of Christ, you are blessed. …” And that’s the truth; sometimes we are insulted for proclaiming the good news of salvation in Christ. But listen to what follows: “If you suffer, however, it should not be as a murderer or thief or any other kind of criminal, or even as a meddler.”

The Apostle Peter is more or less saying: If you suffer for sharing the good news of Christ, great, you’re blessed. But if you suffer just because you’re being a criminal or acting like an idiot, then don’t blame it on Christ.

Some 2,000 years ago, Peter knew so-called Christians would be criminals and “meddlers.” He knew some would claim, “Wow, I’m really suffering for Jesus,” when they are really just suffering for being jerks.

The word “meddler” means busybody: someone who inserts himself into matters that are not his own. Might this include some people involved in the Twitter, Facebook and “comments” showdowns of our day?

So yes, “all who live godly will suffer persecution.” But let’s not be jerks, get persecuted and then blame it on Christ. American Christianity, with its past position of cultural superiority, gave birth to some self-righteous and condescending so-called Christians. These folks may be culturally Christian, but they know little of Christ and his actual message of humility and repentance. I am convinced that, if Jesus Christ were here walking among us, he would have nothing to do with those who claim his name and consistently spew hate.

Theologians and academics will argue about that last sentence. Isn’t Jesus “a friend of sinners?” Yes. Doesn’t Jesus’ grace wash away the sins of those who trust in him? Yes. Wouldn’t that include the sin of "hate tweet"? Yes.

In seminaries and churches, we tend to engage in obscure questions about theology. For example, “Is it possible for someone to truly trust Christ and spend their entire life tweeting hate?”

Maybe so. But Jesus didn’t engage in such esoteric abstractions. He taught simple truth with clarity, authority and practicality. On controversial issues—“Are hate tweeters true Christians?”—I find myself drawn to the simple words of Scripture. Theologians will argue and debate, but God’s word is simple and clear.

“Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates his brother is still in the darkness.” (1 John 2:9,11)

“With the tongue we praise our Lord and father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God's likeness. Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be.” (James 3:9,10)

“If anyone says, ‘I love God,’ yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.” (1 John 4:20)

Jesus put it this way in Matthew 12:34-36: “For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks. The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken.”

If we will give account for every careless word spoken, might we also give account for every careless comment typed or tweeted?

Christians aren’t the only ones hurling hateful blows on the Web. But we are the only ones who claim to follow the life and teachings of Jesus Christ. So let’s be nice.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of John S. Dickerson.

- CNN Belief Blog

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  1. Andy

    Uh, there's plenty of hateful atheists out there as well. They are even getting bolder despite only being about 5% of the population.

    February 10, 2013 at 2:27 pm |
    • LivinginVA

      Yes, but this article was written by a Christian minister speaking to other Christians.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:28 pm |
    • End Religion

      it has grown past 5%. See how fast you horrible chrisitans are helping us churn out atheists?

      February 10, 2013 at 2:28 pm |
    • ME II

      @Andy,
      There are plenty of murders out there too. Does that make it okay?

      February 10, 2013 at 2:29 pm |
    • CrossCountry

      OH no!!!

      they are getting bolder?! shame on them,

      February 10, 2013 at 2:30 pm |
    • Dianeps

      Atheists don't claim to be born again and undergoing a process of sanctification. We don't claim to be witnesses to God's love. We don't claim to be saved. We can be as nasty as we like. Fortunately many of us don't see any reasons to be mean or cruel. Whereas for Christians their behavior should be evidence for the truth of their beliefs and their indifference for how they come across is very telling.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:34 pm |
    • Mrs. Pepperpot

      Yes, you're right...the difference is that they aren't hypocrites. Nice deflection, however.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:34 pm |
    • box1813

      How many atheist wars have there been? The religious have perfected hate over centuries, it's going to take us atheists a long time to catch up.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:47 pm |
    • lol??

      Stop worryin' so much. I'm sure Affirmative Action is right around the corner to save you. Sometimes AA helps the majority in its own nondiscriminatory way of seein' things.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:56 pm |
    • Linda Shinn

      You are correct that there are some hateful athiests out there.
      But, I, and many other non-believers are not at all hateful.
      We are the nice neighbor, who you like a lot, and our children are the ones who you want your kids to be like.
      We are the good parents, and good people, who, much like the many neighbors you have who are gay, and not comfortable with coming out the the closet, you simply do not know exist.
      The 5% you speak of, are only the tip of an iceburg of non-believers, who simply do not want to be attacked by religeous people who would do so to them and their children, so they simply to not "come out" and make their lack or belief known.
      We exist, however, in much larger numbers than you know.

      February 10, 2013 at 3:01 pm |
  2. Bostontola

    Is it possible that belief in god is due to generation after generation indoctrination of children when they are very young and unable to distinguish reality from fantasy (like Santa)? The human mind is based on emotion, with logic a later add on. The emotional tie to the internally generated love being more powerful than abstract intellect?

    February 10, 2013 at 2:26 pm |
    • Clarity

      I have to think on that – good questions I think.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:27 pm |
    • CrossCountry

      Yes I think that is something to ponder. Indoctrination is a big problem

      February 10, 2013 at 2:29 pm |
    • scyes

      I'd say that's one reason. Another is that man can't deal with the fact that at death, it just all end.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:33 pm |
    • box1813

      Religion is the product of evolution. The societies that banded together and established mores were far more likely to survive than those that did not. The more organized the were, the more productive they became. Science evolved out of religion when individuals started desiring a more complete answer and began experimentation and analysis. Fun fact: Gregor Mendel, the founder of the field of genetics, was a catholic monk.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:39 pm |
    • Bostontola

      Box, I agree completely. I am asking why it persists. Religion is clearly one of the most successful human creations, resulting in evolutionary dominance. My question is more to believers, I'd like to know their thoughts.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:42 pm |
    • Richard Cranium

      Box
      Science and religion were both born from ignorance.
      Science chooses to fill in our ignorance with data.
      Religion makes stuff up to explain things.
      One was not born of the other, they are different mechanisms to deal with our lack of knowledge.

      Why is someone elses religion a "fun fact"?

      February 10, 2013 at 2:43 pm |
    • lol??

      Well, ya can look at the XX's.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:50 pm |
    • Aldewacs

      Hmmm... if one has to THINK whether early-age indoctrination is a possibility ... then that person surely is already infected.
      How can any sober, clear thinking (!) person not see that child indoctrination is the main method religions use (ALL of them) to sustain their numbers?
      Information and education are the main enemy of religion – and unfortunately for them, the Internet is providing both to those who are in a position to think for themselves.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:52 pm |
    • sqeptiq

      The vast majority of christians, muslims, hindus, mormons, etc, ad nauseum, are what they are because that's what they were raised to be and they have never been taught to value critical thinking. Anyone can be brainwashed but it's much easier with small children.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:54 pm |
    • lol??

      sqeptiq, gardens are raised and children are trained. Ask Cain and those who want to raise him. He was the original gardener.

      February 10, 2013 at 3:03 pm |
  3. lloyd roberts

    God invented science

    February 10, 2013 at 2:24 pm |
    • Clarity

      Uh no. Try again.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:26 pm |
    • Ungodly Discipline

      And you invented your God, so therefore you created science. Nice effort.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:27 pm |
    • TANK!!!!

      Ah. So god invented science, and then asked his followers to put blind faith above everything else, including science.

      Nice.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:32 pm |
    • box1813

      No, people unsatisfied with the church's answer invented science. Don't forget to say "thank you" to all the skeptics that created the technology necessary for you to have the opportunity to embarrass yourself on the internet.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:34 pm |
    • sam stone

      man invented god

      February 10, 2013 at 2:41 pm |
    • lol??

      God watched Adam do the naming before the fall and Darwin after the fall.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:48 pm |
    • Aldewacs

      Man has invented many things.
      Many good, many bad.
      Inventing the gods was one of the worst. Every one of the thousands invented turned out to be badly conceived.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:56 pm |
    • sqeptiq

      No, questioning minds invented science; superst*tious mind invented god.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:58 pm |
  4. isolate

    Jesus himself has episodes of hate speech, so maybe that's where the trend got started. Chapters 22-23 in Matthew seem to be a prolonged hate tweet:

    "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness." ~ Matthew 23:26-28 (KJV)

    February 10, 2013 at 2:24 pm |
  5. Profit Mow-Ham-ID

    IS-Lame Means PIECE – a piece of you here – a piece of you there! "ALL-IN Snack-Bar!" (Snacks are great). P.S. My imaginary bearded man in the sky is superior to your imaginary bearded man in the sky! And I'll remove your head to prove it!

    February 10, 2013 at 2:21 pm |
    • ME II

      Yes, your post IS-Lame.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:34 pm |
  6. lionlylamb

    The realms of God's kingdom domains lays upon the atomized dimensions of spatial relativities. 1Corinthians 3:9 “For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, [ye are] God's building”.

    February 10, 2013 at 2:19 pm |
    • Profit Mow-Ham-ID

      THere is no dog but dog.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:22 pm |
    • sally

      Oh, no – don't hold all that stuff in your "building" – that's why you are constantly throwing up your word salad. Eat some prunes before bedtime if necessary.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:29 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      Sally,

      My excrements are self-regulating and have no needs of your promiscuous pruning. :-)

      February 10, 2013 at 2:35 pm |
  7. moose1

    When the media finds it fashionable, acceptable and politically correct to trash Christians; while backing away from anything that could possibly offend a Muslim, you wonder why "hate" is generated? Converting or killing infidels, cutting off heads, killing girls because they want to learn, covering beautiful women with a head to toe bag and wiping their butts with a bare left hand is all okay and acceptable to the media. Being offended by these practices and speaking out against them is called "hate".....go figure!!!

    February 10, 2013 at 2:18 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      here, i'll help you...

      the muslim god is just as made up as the christian god.
      allah = yahweh = fail

      February 10, 2013 at 2:20 pm |
    • CrossCountry

      READ the history of violence that has been written all because of the Christians. Christianity and Catholicism is responsible for major crimes against humanity!!!

      Holy moly. Don't people know their history?

      February 10, 2013 at 2:21 pm |
    • LivinginVA

      This article is written by a Christian minister to other Christians. It would have been inappropriate for him to discuss Muslims in the article. There have been similar articles written by Imans about Islam.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:30 pm |
    • box1813

      I sense in you an inferiority complex driven by fear of loosing dominance.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:31 pm |
    • isolate

      You're using the actions of a few extremists to tar all of Islam. Imagine if I claimed the loathsome Westboro Baptist Church represented all of Christianity? I have lived among Muslims here and abroad, visited their mosques and celebrated holidays with them. I have always found them to be open, welcoming and sincere. Not one has ever tried to shove Islam down my throat, unlike many obnoxious Christians in the southern part of the USA.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:35 pm |
    • sam stone

      our freedom are much more at risk from christians legisilating their beliefs than they are from muslims invading from outside

      February 10, 2013 at 2:44 pm |
  8. box1813

    The act of divorcing mores from the person and delivering them as instructions opens an avenue to violence for anyone who decides to interpret those words to fit their desires. This is system is fundamentally flawed because any "sin" can be forgiven by apology, thus allowing anyone to take any action without fear of punishment. Morality must be assessed at the individual level balancing altruism and egoism appropriately. They must be personal things, but meet the societal moral baseline, and be subject to evaluation by society. Only then will you find the balance that best promotes quality of life and advancement.

    TL;DR
    "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." -Mohandas Ghandi

    February 10, 2013 at 2:16 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      except jesus opens his daddy's seven seals at the end times and kills 2/3 of the population, including children. he releases death, famine, war, plague, etc. if jesus is so loving, why is he destined to kill millions?

      February 10, 2013 at 2:19 pm |
      • box1813

        To motivate people to adhere to the guidelines.

        February 10, 2013 at 2:44 pm |
  9. Dianeps

    Anger, hatred, cruelty just tell us the truth about Christianity. If it was true, we would see something vastly different.

    February 10, 2013 at 2:16 pm |
  10. Pogojo

    Free will, yes Christians can.

    February 10, 2013 at 2:13 pm |
  11. Ungodly Discipline

    If you consult the dictionary, here is the first definition of God that you will find:

    "A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions.

    Most believers would agree with this definition because they share a remarkably clear and consistent view of God. Yes, there are thousands of minor (and some major) quibbles about religion. Believers express those quibbles in dozens of denominations - Presbyterians, Lutherans, Catholics, Baptists, Episcopalians, Methodists and all faiths. But at the heart of it all, the belief in God aligns on a set of core ideas that everyone accepts.

    What if you were to simply think about what it would mean if there were a perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe? Is it possible for such a being to exist?

    Epicures thought about it in 300 BCE, and he came up with this:

    "The gods can either take away evil from the world and will not, or, being willing to do so, cannot; or they neither can nor will, or lastly, they are both able and willing. If they have the will to remove evil and cannot, then they are not omnipotent. If they can, but will not, than they are not benevolent. If they are neither able nor willing, then they are neither omnipotent nor benevolent. Lastly, if they are both able and willing to annihilate evil, how does it exist?"

    In other words, if you sit and think about who God is supposed to be, you realize that such a being is impossible. Ridiculous, in fact.

    February 10, 2013 at 2:13 pm |
  12. CrossCountry

    The bottom line is: Christians can NOT play nice in the playground with anyone else.

    They are the king of the castle and everyone else is the dirty rascal. Especially the gays, abortionists and divorcees.

    February 10, 2013 at 2:11 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      that's one of the big problems with religion. it isn't a matter of, "everyone show their evidence and we'll see who's right." religions say, "i have no evidence, but i know i'm right."

      February 10, 2013 at 2:14 pm |
    • CrossCountry

      you speak truth Bootyfunk

      February 10, 2013 at 2:22 pm |
    • Foreseen

      What do you think you do? BASH anyone that doesn't agree with you and that's playing nice?

      February 10, 2013 at 2:43 pm |
    • CrossCountry

      First, I don't label my friends. We check all that stuff at the door.

      I don't really care WHAT you believe. What I do care about is when a religious group decides that their way is the only way and everyone else is dammed.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:46 pm |
  13. That Guy

    I find this all quite amusing.

    *Ahem* And so God did proclaim, "Fly, my pretties! Fly! Spread hate and bigotry throughout the land while hiding behind my name like a magical shield that will absolve you of any wrongdoing!"

    February 10, 2013 at 2:04 pm |
  14. Ungodly Discipline

    Many argue that, if science has not found an answer to a phenomenon, then God did it.

    Therefore before we understood lightning, God did it. Likewise for rain, tides, earthquakes, etc.

    Using this logic, every time we explain something we did not previously understand, a piece of God is eliminated.

    Therefore, God will necessarily be disproven over time.

    Therefore, there is no God.

    The law of a diminishing God.

    February 10, 2013 at 2:03 pm |
    • That Guy

      Well you see, according to this little book written by some old dead guy, you're wrong, because this text says so...and it's magical or something.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:06 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      he's pretty much been disproved - just hard to make christians look at proof.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:11 pm |
  15. HapHazzard

    I got to the bottom and thought "what a thoughtful and well reasoned article, thank you".
    Then I got to the comments section. I'm afraid that mankind will not survive as a species.
    Maybe the co/ckroaches will do a better job with the planet when we're gone.

    February 10, 2013 at 2:03 pm |
    • lol??

      Jesus hasn't rulled with a rod of iron yet.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:09 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      and he never will.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:12 pm |
    • Helter Skelter

      When I got to the bottom I went back to the top of the slide.....

      February 10, 2013 at 2:14 pm |
    • searchingforthetruth

      I find the comment section is usually disturbing but enlightening. It's quite a mess out there!

      February 10, 2013 at 2:16 pm |
    • searchingforthetruth

      Hey Bootyfunk. Hard to tell where you stand. You believe there is a God who killed 99.99% of the people in a flood but don't believe Jesus will rule and reign. Do you believe and don't like or don't believe?

      February 10, 2013 at 2:24 pm |
    • End Religion

      bootyfunk doesn't buy any of your god stories. he may have used one as an example to refute a religious person since they *do* buy that fantasy.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:40 pm |
  16. RdWhtNBlu

    It's really hard to take seriously anyone that believes something developed thousands of years ago by primitive people that thought the world was flat, the Earth was at the center of the universe that contained a few other planets for some reason, and all other ways of thinking should be changed by force! Come on people...the universe is a wonderfully special place that we are just beginning to be able to understand, sort of. Now, the Big Bang may be just a natural occurance that has happened an infinite amount of times and there may be other universes. There may be a higher power of some sort, but NOBODY knows and anyone claiming to KNOW is lying to himself/herself and to anyone he/she blows this hot air toward. All of us can be in wonder as to how all of this has come about, but to try and act as we've got all of the answers and we are just living to be judged by the higher power to hopefully qualify for the wonderful afterlife is nothing less than proposterus. Make the most of this life that you have and hopefully at death we can be enlightened as to what the process was for, but we may just rot in a hole. NOBODY knows and the real tragedy is wars are still being waged by people that are convinced of lies and think they are doing God's work and may be rewarded for killing non-believers. Sheesh!!!

    February 10, 2013 at 2:02 pm |
    • lol??

      Can you give some evidence that nobody knows nothing.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:12 pm |
    • RdWhtNBlu

      Lol? Very weak argument....I'm 44 years old, very educated, and very interested in seeking information regarding the origins of the universe. Please don't try and convince me that there are some amongst us that are communicating with a higher power/creator. Please don't try and convince me that anyone throughout history ever has. When in the mid-sixteenth century the Catholic church sentenced Galileo to a lifetime of house arrest (originally burning at the stake) for determining for a fact that the Sun was at the center of the solar system, I'm quite convinced that nobody at the most influential Christian organization was communicating with God, who would have confirmed Galileo's research. 1560 years after the birth of Christ!!!

      February 10, 2013 at 2:19 pm |
    • Doobs

      @lol??

      Can you give some evidence that nobody knows nothing.

      Go look in the mirror. There's your evidence.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:32 pm |
  17. Not perfect, but forgiven

    Jesus DID NOT say foloow my followers, he said follow him. Christians should show the love of Christ by being a servant to everyone. If we are a stumbling block to other people, we will have to answer on judgement day. Matthew 6:33 says it best: Seek frist the kingdom of God, AND HIS RIGHTENOUS , and all things shall be added unto you. God must be first in our live and we must seek him daily. If God is first in our hearts, really first, than we will love our neighbors as we love him. God bless

    February 10, 2013 at 2:00 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      you'd be much better of thinking for yourself instead of repeating your christian cult gibberish.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:03 pm |
  18. searchingforthetruth

    I thought the article hit the nail on the head. Assuming the bible was written by men inspired by God (per the bible), the bible becomes the Christian's reference guide. AKA the word of God. Not the church. Not the pope. Not religion. Not self. Following the bible, within context, as opposed to cherry picking to find something you like that fits within your lifestyle would support the writer's point. It's all or none.

    Fortunately, there are many Christians that actually live their lives according to the bible. You just won't hear about them in the media. Not enough sensationalism or controversy. I'm quite surprised that this article made press. But just proves miracles do happen :-) Check the bible out for yourself without the noise of the mainstream Christian circus. Then you might come to the realization that many who label themselves Christian actually aren't but the message of the bible is true.

    February 10, 2013 at 2:00 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      the bible says to kill all g.ays, disobedient children, non-virgin brides and any working the weekend. in order to be a "good" christian, you need to start killing, as your bible demands.

      amen.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:04 pm |
    • was blind but now I see

      That's not exactly true. If you read the Bible carefully, you will see there are two different "camps" that are talked about. God's seed (children) and the serpent's seed (children). All of the scriptures that talk about loving and turning the other cheek are referring to the brethern. The more judgemental talk is directed towards the enemy's seed (Kennites, Nephilim, etc...)

      February 10, 2013 at 2:13 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      in his great flood, god drowned babies. were those babies "bad"? you're making excuses. if you think all the scriptures are foo-foo flowery, you have not read the bible. you're making excuses for a monster. god is a baby-killer.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:16 pm |
    • CrossCountry

      Was blind but now I see,

      ACTUALLY you are wrong. Those aren't the two camps. There were the children of Israel and everyone else. According to the OT you my dear, are outside that exclusive circle. Then in the NT provisions were apparently made for you to be IN the exclusive circle of believers. These were considered the believers and everyone else.

      Modern day Christianity has created the two camps you are talking about. Read the bible.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:18 pm |
    • was blind but now I see

      John 8:44-45
      King James Version (KJV)

      Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:29 pm |
    • was blind but now I see

      Genesis 3:15

      And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:30 pm |
    • was blind but now I see

      Matthew 13:24-30
      New King James Version (NKJV)

      The Parable of the Wheat and the Tares
      24 Another parable He put forth to them, saying: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field; 25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way. 26 But when the grain had sprouted and produced a crop, then the tares also appeared. 27 So the servants of the owner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?’ 28 He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ The servants said to him, ‘Do you want us then to go and gather them up?’ 29 But he said, ‘No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.”’”

      February 10, 2013 at 2:31 pm |
    • was blind but now I see

      37 He answered and said to them: “He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one. 39 The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels. 40 Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age. 41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, 42 and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!

      February 10, 2013 at 2:37 pm |
    • CrossCountry

      Was blind but now I see

      In your reference in John....Jesus was actually talking to the Jews. He was slapping them across the face for being hypocrites. Remember?

      As for your other scripture....it was supposed to be prophetic as to how Jesus would destroy the devil.

      Yes yes....I studied these things once.

      SO still.....you are wrong and clearly don't know how to interpret historic writings in context to the times in which they were quoted.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:37 pm |
    • CrossCountry

      ,,,,and honestly....just doing the ol cut n paste isn't really working.

      So calm those fingers down.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:39 pm |
    • was blind but now I see

      The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them: the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.
      - American Standard Version (1901)

      Genesis 6:4

      February 10, 2013 at 2:44 pm |
    • End Religion

      when they run out of arguments they fall back to the scripture position...

      February 10, 2013 at 2:45 pm |
    • was blind but now I see

      The Kenites are a race of people that even many of the more educated Christians don’t really know much about. I have had discussions with some of these people in explaining who the Kenites were and they have trouble accepting it, but in this blog I will try to make it as conclusive as possible. The Kenites are a very important group of people, especially in this day and age. They have been steering our creation to the end by using their gift of subtly manipulating the people who have hollowed themselves empty by not accepting God and the written Word. The Kenites in the meantime have tarnished the legacy of the Jews, who just happen to be a close relation to the Kenites. Many things the hardened blame the Jews for really have been perpetrated by the Kenites. You will see the difference between the Jews and the Kenites after reading this.

      In the early Old Testament days, groups of people were either named for their race or where they lived. There were the Canaanites that lived in Canaan and the Midianites that lived in Midian. The Kenites however were a nomadic group, hence they were their own race. Many, if not most settled in Canaan and Midian. If the Kenites were a race of people, how did they come about? Cain went east into the land of Nod after he killed his brother Abel, and then married a woman. Their offspring became known as Kenites. As it says in 1st Chr. 2:55, the Kenites were appointed to be scribes due to their ability to interpret and convince the masses of their interpretation of the law. Speaking of the law, Moses’ own wife and father-in-law were Kenites. When Moses was banished from Egypt, he found himself in Midian where he would meet his wife. Judges 1:16 reveals that Moses’ father-in-law was a Kenite. Moses’ wife and father-in-law were Kenites that lived in Midian. Given that the Kenites were their own race, but yet the Israelites including Moses took them in, as well as marrying one, they had to be very similar to the Jews. As I said in a previous post called “How Did Cain Marry a Woman?”, Cain must have married someone of a different race to start a new one. I’ll leave a link to that at the bottom of the page. Because Kenites were so similar to Jews, they had the same enemies. The Kenites helped the Jews fight their enemies as the Jews walked through the wilderness, particularly in Canaan. This is why the Jews took them in to be as one. From then on, they had Jewish names and customs. To this day, they believe they are Jews.

      Still not convinced? Jesus in Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 spoke about people who say they are Jews, but are not. He called them liars. Even though there really is no way to know for sure, if anyone speaks factually about something and they’re wrong about it, that makes them a liar in Jesus’ eyes. If they say they are Jews but are not, he accounts them to be liars whether they know it or not. Notwithstanding that, Jesus was really saying they lie regularly. It’s who they are. So who could be this race of people who say they are Jews, but are not? Who else is written that could possibly fit the mold? Only the Kenites fit those who say they are Jews but really are not.

      The Kenites were descendants of Cain, but Cain wasn’t the descendant of Adam. The serpent was the father of Cain, and as was revealed in Rev. 20:2 the serpent was Satan. Read Gen. 3 carefully where the serpent beguiled Eve. God told the serpent that his seed and the woman’s seed would have enmity towards one another. Would God tell a snake that his seed and the woman’s seed would have enmity? Sure Eve gave birth to both, but Satan only fathered Cain. Cain killed Abel. Enmity. That was only partially fulfilled. It still goes on today and will in this generation come to full fruition. The Kenites have all the traits Satan had. They are liars. They are subtle. They are manipulative. They are very convincing. They are power-hungry, just as Satan was since his fall came because he wanted to become God. They are also great at hiding their true intentions. Most importantly, the Kenites hate Jews, Christians, Israel, America, and God. It’s innate, but not destined to come to pass with all of them. Some, however have made their life’s choice.

      The Kenites started off as allies to the Jews since they had common enemies, but as time went on they went in the way of their father. As I said before, they had a gift to convince the masses of their interpretation of the law. They didn’t stop there. Over the years they put themselves in positions of power since they are power-hungry and very convincing. When Jesus was alive, he spoke about the scribes and Pharisees being hypocrites. Do you think maybe Jesus was speaking directly to the Kenites? When Jesus had the chance to go free, which was not his preordained destiny, it was the Kenite scribes and Pharisees that helped to get the crowd shouting “crucify him!” while desiring for the release of the criminal Barrabas. Enmity. Who could convince a crowd to be so hateful but the Kenite?

      February 10, 2013 at 2:48 pm |
    • CrossCountry

      UGH.....again with the cut n paste.

      Think for yourself.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:57 pm |
    • RdWhtNBlu

      @ was blind but now I see – Wow, just wow! You are just simple heavy-duty trippin'. I feel so sorry for the fact that you keep these man-made words, that are completely made up and ancient human fabrication, to rule your life. I hope you and the rest of your collectively trippin' masses that are too weak to face the truth will one day not be blind, but see that your families for many generations have been spending an enormous amount of time on material produced by the likes of our current Middle Eastern friends that think women are inferior and this life is worth nothing, but it's the next one that really matters! Nice, let's not worry about this life!

      February 10, 2013 at 2:57 pm |
    • End Religion

      The bible is a fraud. Relying on it for any argument is fruitless and hilarious.

      February 10, 2013 at 3:54 pm |
    • was blind but now I see

      yea, yea, yea. I've heard it all before:

      If you think for yourself, "That's just your opinion. Who are you anyway....."

      If you paste from a source beyond yourself, "Can't you think for yourself....."

      43Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

      John 8:43-45

      February 10, 2013 at 5:47 pm |
  19. Longbow

    Lets talk about hypocrisy. Noone ever died from drawing a picture of Jesus. Evangelican Christian groups do not kill innocent civilians. Yes, someone is going to bring up the crusades–I'm talking modern history not almost 1000 years ago. The simple fact is that, although the vast majority of Muslims live peaceful lives, the fringe elements of the Islamic faith are murderous, contemptible monsters. Christian fringe groups have television shows or ring your doorbell on Sunday. Islamic fringe groups commit murder. Why do they commt murder? Because it is a central element of their faith. "Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers." 2:191-2 "We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Their habitation is the Fire." 3:151 "Allah will bestow a vast reward on those who fight in religious wars." 4:74 "The disbelievers are an open enemy to you." 4:101.

    Its time to stop kidding ourselves and call a rat a rat.

    February 10, 2013 at 2:00 pm |
    • Bostontola

      20 years ago in Bosnia, Christians killed Muslims in a mini crusade, no?

      February 10, 2013 at 2:04 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      gosh, it's almost like all religions are crazy...

      February 10, 2013 at 2:05 pm |
    • Jecht

      What does this have to do with anything? It's like a kid getting caught for doing something wrong and then pointing out that their sibling did something unrelated wrong recently. It's shifting the conversation while ignoring the original point. Also, there are Christians who kill in the name of their religion. Anti-abortion activists send threats to abortion doctors all the time as well as occasionally killing them.

      February 10, 2013 at 2:31 pm |
  20. Jane Galt

    John, maybe you could try to stop a lot of the hate by nipping in in the bud, such as denouncing the hate-filled diatribes of Christian radio "pastors" such as Bryan Fischer (who is almost in a class by himself.). If you want to read some quotes from some of these hatemongers, surf on over to http://www.rightwingwatch.org.

    February 10, 2013 at 2:00 pm |
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