home
RSS
My take: A word to Christians - Be nice
February 9th, 2013
10:00 PM ET

My take: A word to Christians - Be nice

Editor's note: John S. Dickerson is author of the book “The Great Evangelical Recession: 6 Factors that Will Crash the American Church ... and How to Prepare” and senior pastor of Cornerstone in Prescott, Arizona. Follow him on Facebook or Twitter @JohnSDickerson

By John S. Dickerson, Special to CNN

Last week a high-profile American writer and news personality asked me a painful question: “Hey pastor, can a Christian tweet hate?”

It was not a hypothetical question. He was asking because some of his 1.3 million Twitter followers claim to be “Christian,” and some of the meanest, most perverse hate-tweets he receives come from these self-proclaimed Christians.

We’ve all seen folks, Christian and otherwise, lose their cool in a Facebook face-off or in the comment section under a controversial news story. But as I scrolled through the “Christian” hate tweets to this news personality, I was baffled and ashamed by these so-called followers of Christ. One user describes himself not merely as Christian but as “sharing God’s message of Grace with everyone I encounter.” The messenger of Grace recently tweeted that he doesn’t merely hate this news personality, he despises and loathes him.

These are the moments when it’s embarrassing to be a Christian. I’m not embarrassed to believe the extravagant claims of Christianity: that Christ was born to a virgin, died for our sins, physically rose from the grave and is returning to rule the world. But I am embarrassed to be associated with some of the people who claim his name.

I have written in the past about the bad reputation that Christians have in America. Some argue that it comes from misrepresentation by the media. Others argue that “all who live godly will suffer persecution,” and that’s why we Christians have a poor reputation. Maybe there’s some truth to those claims, but we Christians have to acknowledge another reason why we are perceived as hateful: because many of our number are.

More and more, I see hateful Christians chalking up their disrepute to “persecution.” God tells us otherwise. In 1 Peter 4 we’re told, “If you are insulted because of the name of Christ, you are blessed. …” And that’s the truth; sometimes we are insulted for proclaiming the good news of salvation in Christ. But listen to what follows: “If you suffer, however, it should not be as a murderer or thief or any other kind of criminal, or even as a meddler.”

The Apostle Peter is more or less saying: If you suffer for sharing the good news of Christ, great, you’re blessed. But if you suffer just because you’re being a criminal or acting like an idiot, then don’t blame it on Christ.

Some 2,000 years ago, Peter knew so-called Christians would be criminals and “meddlers.” He knew some would claim, “Wow, I’m really suffering for Jesus,” when they are really just suffering for being jerks.

The word “meddler” means busybody: someone who inserts himself into matters that are not his own. Might this include some people involved in the Twitter, Facebook and “comments” showdowns of our day?

So yes, “all who live godly will suffer persecution.” But let’s not be jerks, get persecuted and then blame it on Christ. American Christianity, with its past position of cultural superiority, gave birth to some self-righteous and condescending so-called Christians. These folks may be culturally Christian, but they know little of Christ and his actual message of humility and repentance. I am convinced that, if Jesus Christ were here walking among us, he would have nothing to do with those who claim his name and consistently spew hate.

Theologians and academics will argue about that last sentence. Isn’t Jesus “a friend of sinners?” Yes. Doesn’t Jesus’ grace wash away the sins of those who trust in him? Yes. Wouldn’t that include the sin of "hate tweet"? Yes.

In seminaries and churches, we tend to engage in obscure questions about theology. For example, “Is it possible for someone to truly trust Christ and spend their entire life tweeting hate?”

Maybe so. But Jesus didn’t engage in such esoteric abstractions. He taught simple truth with clarity, authority and practicality. On controversial issues—“Are hate tweeters true Christians?”—I find myself drawn to the simple words of Scripture. Theologians will argue and debate, but God’s word is simple and clear.

“Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates his brother is still in the darkness.” (1 John 2:9,11)

“With the tongue we praise our Lord and father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God's likeness. Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be.” (James 3:9,10)

“If anyone says, ‘I love God,’ yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.” (1 John 4:20)

Jesus put it this way in Matthew 12:34-36: “For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks. The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken.”

If we will give account for every careless word spoken, might we also give account for every careless comment typed or tweeted?

Christians aren’t the only ones hurling hateful blows on the Web. But we are the only ones who claim to follow the life and teachings of Jesus Christ. So let’s be nice.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of John S. Dickerson.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Uncategorized

soundoff (10,298 Responses)
  1. Douglas

    Christians need not apologize for taking a moral stance against slavery, abortion, gay marriage, poverty and war.

    The basic tenents of the faith are meaningless if morality is compromised.

    Look no further than the American Civil Rights Movement to see Christian ministers rallying the masses against
    Jim Crow and the Vietnam War.

    One in particular, Dr. ML King, Jr., was murdered for speaking truth to power.

    Today as Christians speak truth to power they encounter the same resistance.

    The total breakdown of morality has ushered in a new era of slavery throughout the world and the use of r@pe as a weapon of war. Children are kidnapped and trafficked to satisfy the s@xual cravings of the depraved both gay and straight.

    At home we see the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts reeling from attacks on children by gay s@xual predators.

    School teachers are engaged in s@x with students and children in day care are reportedly simulating s@xual flith they observed performed by adults in their presence or on cable television.

    Political candidates spend hundreds of millions of dollars broadcasting lies about their opponents.

    All of this is indicative of the moral failure of our time. When Christians challenge war, poverty, r@pe, fornication and
    child abuse they are told to mind their own business and to keep their Biblical morality to themselves.

    Hey... if there is no morality, then I can do what makes me feel good...right?

    I say Christians rise up, and stand for the morality that Jesus taught...do not be afraid to stand for truth.

    As they mcoked our Lord so they will mock you.

    February 10, 2013 at 5:01 pm |
    • Answer

      The good ole classic christian propaganda... spin and wash history to suit your own ego. Still it fails even today because education remains.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:03 pm |
    • Judge Not Lest Ye be Judged

      Naw, you don't need to be sorry for being hate-mongers.

      Just watch out for that trap door at the Pearly Gates. :(

      February 10, 2013 at 5:03 pm |
    • Platypus Rex

      Love those straw men, Dougy!

      I see you still are obsessing over gays! Hint hint hint: heterosexual people don't do that.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:03 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Morality's origin is the human mind. "God's morality" is merely a collection of ideas written by some humans and attributed to their god idea. Besides, god's morality shifts all the time, from one event to another, from one testament to another, whatever, and whatever he does is right by definition--because he's the mightiest. So christians worship a subjective morality (subjective to god) and a "might-makes-right" god who is always right even when he does what he labels sin if you do it. Stupid god.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:04 pm |
    • Observer

      Douglas,
      "Christians need not apologize for taking a moral stance against slavery, abortion"

      WOW!! People thought you actually had read the Bible and this shows that you haven't. The Bible SUPPORTS slavery and never mentions abortion. Amazing!

      Why not START reading the Bible?

      February 10, 2013 at 5:04 pm |
    • clarity

      Douglas is one of the most hateful kind of "Christian" who regularly spreads misinformation and bigotry on these blogs. Mostly he is just homophobic. If he took a good look around at other "Christians" he would see quite a number who adamantly do not share his view nor his homophobia. He is exactly the kind of "Christian" that promotes atheism and he is exactly the type that makes these words ring true today:

      Thomas Jefferson, POTUS #3:

      Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth.

      James Madison, POTUS #4, chief architect of the U.S. Constitution & the Bill of Rights:

      During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:06 pm |
    • Douglas

      Observer,

      Wrong again...

      As I pointed out to before the Bible condemns slavery.

      Read the New Testament and stop peddling your own view of the Bible to justify your lifestyle.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:07 pm |
    • Platypus Rex

      Apologists in the Confederacy found far more Biblical support for slavery in the Bible than Northern abolitionists ever could.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:08 pm |
    • Akira

      "Philip December Douglas: My Anal Obession Continues."
      Clean your own closet before condeming others...mmkay?

      February 10, 2013 at 5:09 pm |
    • clarity

      Also notice how Douglas doesn't seem to know the difference between gay and pedophile.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:09 pm |
    • I'm calling you on that

      Douglas, there is no part of the New Testament that condemns slavery. Jesus tells slaves to be the best darn slave you can be.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:10 pm |
    • Observer

      Douglas,

      Get serious.

      – I Peter 2:18 “Servants, be submissive to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and gentle, but also to those who are unreasonable.”

      Ooops.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:11 pm |
    • Over 40,000 denominations of insanity

      The New Testament. Ah yes. Some early Christian apologists claimed that the gospels were not plagiarizing earlier pagan stories, but that Satan set the whole thing up to confuse everyone. That's the ticket – the gospels were not copy-cats – the older similar stories were a ruse set up by Satan – in advance! wink wink.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:11 pm |
    • End Religion

      Is Doug arguing for anal slaves again?!?

      February 10, 2013 at 5:11 pm |
    • Douglas

      For the benefit of Observer,

      1 Timothy 1,

      8We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. 9We also know that lawa is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious; for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, 10for adulterers and perverts, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine 11that conforms to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:13 pm |
    • Over 40,000 denominations of insanity

      Douglas – the best promoter of atheism the world has known!

      February 10, 2013 at 5:13 pm |
    • Aldewacs

      @Douglas: your post reads like all Christians are angels, united against the bad, bad non-christians.
      Delusion is your strong suit, boy.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:14 pm |
    • Athy

      Maybe some people need religion to help them behave themselves, but not all do. Most people instinctively know it's wrong to rape children or have sex with their students. Some apparently need religion to help them to know the obvious. To that extent, religion is good. Those of us that don't need it just shake our heads and wonder what it must be like to be a slave to such superstitious nonsense.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:15 pm |
    • 261 Ministers Proclamation

      As Christian clergy we proclaim: the Good News concerning Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender (LGBT) persons and publicly apologize where we have been silent. As disciples of Jesus, who assures us that the truth sets us free, we recognize that the debate is over. The verdict is in. Homosexuality is not a sickness, not a choice, and not a sin. We find no rational biblical or theological basis to condemn or deny the rights of any person based on sexual orientation. Silence by many has allowed political and religious rhetoric to monopolize public perception, creating the impression that there is only one Christian perspective on this issue. Yet we recognize and celebrate that we are far from alone, as Christians, in affirming that LGBT persons are distinctive, holy, and precious gifts to all who struggle to become the family of God.

      In repentance and obedience to the Holy Spirit, we stand in solidarity as those who are committed to work and pray for full acceptance and inclusion of LGBT persons in our churches and in our world. We lament that LGBT persons are condemned and excluded by individuals and institutions, political and religious, who claim to be speaking the truth of Christian teaching. This leads directly and indirectly to intolerance, discrimination, suffering, and even death. The Holy Spirit compels us:

      -to affirm that the essence of Christian life is not focused on sexual orientation, but how one lives by grace in relationship with God, with compassion toward humanity;

      –to embrace the full inclusion of our LGBT brothers and sisters in all areas of church life, including leadership;

      –to declare that the violence must stop. Christ’s love moves us to work for the healing of wounded souls who are victims of abuse often propagated in the name of Christ;

      –to celebrate the prophetic witness of all people who have refused to let the voice of intolerance and violence speak for Christianity, especially LGBT persons, who have met hatred with love;

      Therefore we call for an end to all religious and civil discrimination against any person based on sexual orientation and gender identity and expression. All laws must include and protect the freedoms, rights, and equal legal standing of all persons, in and outside the church.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:16 pm |
    • Observer

      Douglas,

      Pitiful response. It NEVER mentioned slavery, but my quote did.

      Besides that, Timothy is full of statements you likely don't believe and support.

      Try again. That was terrible.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:16 pm |
    • Akira

      Proselytizing liar is liar.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:18 pm |
    • Douglas

      Observer,

      Wrong again...

      Your quote talked about "servants", hired hands,...my quote talked about slave traders.

      In a public forum like this it is obvious that you can't seem to comprehend your own writing...poor form.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:20 pm |
    • Epic

      Wow, i am amazed by the amount of crazy...oh wait no i am not.I became a gun owner for the exact reason that people like you scare me and if you crazy Christians ever rise up i will not be defenseless against your iron heel.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:22 pm |
    • Observer

      Douglas,

      Your quote was about traders who violated the laws for SLAVERY in the Bible. It did not condemn SLAVERY.

      Ooops.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:23 pm |
    • frank

      Propaganda is right. This one goes all over the place in this post, trying to rally people to things that are worthy of consideration – like war, with other ridiculous notions that are part of his own twisted agenda, like his hom-ophobia which others have highlighted.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:23 pm |
  2. Hello!!

    Its not that I hate Christianity or Christians, but I get irritated by Christians trying to convert me every now and then. I had a room mate in collage who belonged to one of the Christian groups who persistently tried to convert me. She was generally fun except when she was trying to convert me. Then, she would be very annoying , rude and what not. I told her that I didn't like her telling me that my religion is crap and don't try to convert me. Then I ignored her when she was trying to talk about it. I like to learn about other religion but I don't like people trying to convert me. BTW we are still in touch because she is no more the same person and she has become more accepting about other people's perspective and beliefs.

    February 10, 2013 at 5:00 pm |
    • Platypus Rex

      Wait until you have kids, and they try to secretly convert them. My daughter has been given two Books of Mormon and four Bibles.

      I of course take them to the nearest port-a-potty and toss them in. Seriously.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:05 pm |
  3. Judge Not Lest Ye be Judged

    All religion is an extension of primitive tribalism. The rituals and costumes (aka dogma) haven't really change very much through the millenniums – and neither have many of the frothing religious minions.

    February 10, 2013 at 5:00 pm |
    • Athy

      Agreed. That's one of the things that turned me off religion. All the silly rituals they go though never meant squat to me. I guess it gives comfort to the deluded.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:02 pm |
    • Mik

      Really? Yet you want them to be accepting and tolerant. Insulting someone isn't the way to do it. It's hypocritical.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:04 pm |
    • End Religion

      Mik, how is the truth an insult?

      February 10, 2013 at 5:15 pm |
  4. Dear John Dickerson

    Let us please keep the focus on Jesus Christ when we take to the media. Enough of us wanting to sell books, pampering our egos and trying to please people.
    Our mission must be to please God in our thoughts, actions and words.

    J

    February 10, 2013 at 4:56 pm |
    • Answer

      That fabulous god is Zeus. Thank you for playing the game.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:59 pm |
    • God: a Barbie doll for the mind

      Dear's God-Barbie is suck-up please-the-boss Jesus.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:59 pm |
    • Judge Not Lest Ye be Judged

      Confucius, Zeus, Allah, Buddha, Shiva, etc, etc?

      You need to be specific in this free country of diverse religions. ;)

      February 10, 2013 at 5:02 pm |
  5. Kanageloa

    Funny how people will claim to be something on a venue that can't be verified. I could claim to be a tall well built blonde with a job paying mid six figures. Who is going to know the difference? Who is going to know if I'm male or female? If you believe hate tweets are from normal people then you have problems. Hate can come from anyone behind the vail of an electronic cell. BTW, christians are just people with weaknesses like everyone else.

    February 10, 2013 at 4:56 pm |
  6. tony

    For whatever self serving reasons, religious guidance is about religious directives overriding individual consciences. Don't like the thought of the death penalty? – you wouldn't have liked being a medieval catholic much- they used to seek old senile women in order to burn them at the stake.. Fancy massacring the women and children of those whose beliefs are just a slightly different from yours – read the Old Testament. The Taliban have always been us in the past.

    You can want to be as nice as you like, but the "church" will always invent reasons for you to instead hate any individual or group that threatens their ongoing human organization's existence.

    February 10, 2013 at 4:54 pm |
    • Kanageloa

      Are you speaking about muslims or just using a generic term for people that have a belief?

      February 10, 2013 at 4:59 pm |
    • tony

      You.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:03 pm |
    • JESIII

      No......ewe.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:20 pm |
  7. Rev. Sniffy Bob, Polka King of Elko

    My take: A word to Christians – Be sane for a change.

    February 10, 2013 at 4:54 pm |
  8. tony

    For whatever self serving reasons, religious guidance is about religious directives overriding individual consciences. Don't like the thought of the death penalty? – you wouldn't have liked being a medieval catholic much- they used to seek old senile women in order to burn them at the stake.. Fancy massacring the women and children of those whose beliefs are just a slightly different from yours – read the Old Testament. The Taliban have always been us in the past.

    You cor group that threatens their ongoing human organization's existence.

    February 10, 2013 at 4:52 pm |
  9. Aldewacs

    I'd like to express my appreciation to all those believers who post their stuff and quote clearly from their holy book of fairy tales. It allows me to skip those posts after a quick scan, without wasting time on circular logic, like "The bible is true because it says so in the bible".

    Like: [Jeremiah 50-51 and Revelation 17-18.]

    Thanks again!

    February 10, 2013 at 4:50 pm |
    • lol??

      Creation is a closed system, ya know.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:52 pm |
    • clarity

      @lol?? Rubbish. ya don't know.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:59 pm |
  10. John

    I think Christians are tired of being nice pastor. We've been persecuted and trampled upon and our liberties and religion restricted. This once upon a time Christian country is no more and our values are having to make way to others (e.g., Islam) in the name of mulitculturalism and political correctness.
    Maybe you should take a look and see what is happening to the christians in muslim world and how they are being treated even after centuries of being nice... Nice sometimes doesnt work when you need to defend yourself. Beware of sheep dressed in sheep clothing.

    February 10, 2013 at 4:47 pm |
    • Judge Not Lest Ye be Judged

      By golly, never mind about those Crusades and Inquisitions... :(

      February 10, 2013 at 4:49 pm |
    • What would jesus do?

      Turn the other cheek and let himself be killed, it seems. No need for christians to follow that example, though.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:49 pm |
    • Actually . . .

      "Once upon a time" is how you start fairy tales, and America as a Christian nation is definitely a fairy tale.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:51 pm |
    • Observer

      This article was basically about AMERICANS. Don't try to change the subject and play the victim.

      Radical Muslims are killing people by following many of the same commands that God gave when he established all the rules. Check the Bible.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:51 pm |
    • Nick

      You use of the word "persecuted" is at best melodramatic. When christians are criticized or challenged it equals "persecution." When others are criticized or challenged it equals criticism. Get over yourselves–christians are an overwhelming majority in the country. Grow a thicker skin and the this country will be better for it.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:53 pm |
    • sam stone

      How are your liberties being restricted?

      February 10, 2013 at 4:54 pm |
    • lol??

      I thought, "inquiring minds want to know." was PC? Bet it was at the time!

      February 10, 2013 at 4:55 pm |
    • Answer

      Christians rant on about their size in American culture (that 80% majority) and then they somehow can paint themselves off as the ones being persecuted. Where can I sign up for the free gifts?

      February 10, 2013 at 4:56 pm |
    • lol??

      There are burorats as*signed to help you find the correct burorat.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:58 pm |
    • Will

      Perfect example of the hate the pastor pointed to. "sometimes you need to be mean" is what he is really saying. Typical and the reason why this country becomes more secular each day.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:00 pm |
    • Religion: a Barbie doll for the mind

      John goes for Persecution Complex Barbie

      February 10, 2013 at 5:01 pm |
    • Akira

      Hmmmm....this article clearly made somebody uncomfortable enough to point a finger and say "hey, this is worse!"
      Your liberties are not being restricted; your religion cannot be legislated, that's all. That is NOT persectution, no matter what Hannity and Rush bloviate.
      Stop you hysteria.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:05 pm |
    • End Religion

      Cry, baby, cry. You haven't had your religion restricted at all. You've simply tried to push it into places it doesn't belong and been told "no." Grow up. If you think this is persecution, move to Iran and learn how good you have it here.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:05 pm |
    • Answer

      @Akira

      It's their life goal to be hysterical.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:06 pm |
    • pmmarion

      That is the exact point that he is making.."The Apostle Peter is more or less saying: If you suffer for sharing the good news of Christ, great, you’re blessed."

      You suffer with hating in return.. But Hypocrisy has always been christians strong suit.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:07 pm |
  11. Steve

    I love all the Christian bashing CNN, never mind all the murders that Muslims inflict...where is the piece on that? Or the fact that many Islamic places of warship in the US are terrorist recruiting centers...where is the news story on that? Your cowards...You do a news story on people SAYING mean things on facebook...but no nevermind the mortar attack on a refugee camp in Iraq that killed women and kids..Muslim on Muslim crime? CNN is pathetic.

    February 10, 2013 at 4:46 pm |
    • A widdle cwying baby says

      waaaaaaaaaaah!!! CNN is meenie weenie!! They don't do articles on other religions, just mine!! waaaaaaaaaaaah!

      February 10, 2013 at 4:50 pm |
    • Sense0326

      Since most of their audience is Christian, doesn't it make the most sense to run articles about Christianity?

      February 10, 2013 at 4:51 pm |
    • Judge Not Lest Ye be Judged

      Aren't we a wee bit bigoted today? Nothing new for racist "Christians". ;)

      February 10, 2013 at 4:52 pm |
    • Steve

      Oh where is the piece on which faith in America donates the most to chairities? Im not religous at all..but its sad to see the same drivil over and over again from the liberal left...having a cross soaked in urine in a gallery in New York..thats art? Where is the picture of Mohamad banging a little kid while riding a pig? Pusses.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:56 pm |
    • mike

      LOL. Steve just proved everything the author was getting at. Nasty little "Christian"...

      February 10, 2013 at 4:57 pm |
    • Steve

      LOL Christians is not a "race" you dolt its a religion. Christianity has all colors as does, Islam, Mormonism, Hinduism etc. Ignorant. I ask you those that mock me where are the news articles depicting the other religions in a bad light? And dont forget your Messiah, Obama, is Christian. Its like you people see yourself in the mirror and attack the reflection.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:00 pm |
    • Will

      Gee Steve perhaps thinking might help in this situation. Like not talking to the point of Christian hate, but instead doing what your type of so called "christian" does all the time, redirect. I know its hard to focus for you but at least attempt to try. The Islamic scare tactic is old, used and tired. We are talking about you and your disfunctionalness when it comes to what you preach and what you do. And on the doing you are another perfect example of the Christian Hate. Tweet much Steve:?

      February 10, 2013 at 5:08 pm |
    • Will

      Steve, you mock yourself dude, we dont have to.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:10 pm |
    • Judge Not Lest Ye be Judged

      Steve simply can't control his "Christian" name calling and hatred. LOL :) :)

      February 10, 2013 at 5:18 pm |
  12. Josie

    I see this all to often myself. It's sad really. I am not Christian and haven't been for a very long time and one reason I left is the very people who claim to be "Christian" and turn around and attack others. Yet many of these so called "Christians" don't even go to church regularly and or do and not understand...or go to a church with a leader who doesn't understand. I personally have met some amazing Christians. My mom is one. Someone who lives their life the best they can, they go to church or not (some chose to study the bible personally and go that route), they accept and love all they meet (no matter what the faith or lack there of) and understand that through action they get more results of showing what a Christian is and not through attacks, hatred, and threats. If only more were like them!

    February 10, 2013 at 4:46 pm |
  13. Foreseen

    The reason the United States of America is failing is because so many deny that Morals govern our laws and our morals are based from the Holy Bible!

    February 10, 2013 at 4:43 pm |
    • Judge Not Lest Ye be Judged

      Like the biblical moral that says women are the chattel (property) of men and must obey their husbands? ;)

      February 10, 2013 at 4:44 pm |
    • Zeibodique

      Morals are not exclusive to people who believe in a God. Check into the priests who have been molesting children even before many of us baby boomers were born. Morals have to do with the individual, not a book that people use and flash like a badge when it's convenient. If what you say is true, that morals are based on the Bible, no wonder this world is so scewed up.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:49 pm |
    • Actually . . .

      Virtually nothing in the Constitution and Bill of Rights can be found in the Bible. Not even freedom of religion, which the Bible forbids.

      Those are Enlightenment values. The Enlightenment was a rejection of religious values due to their ugly history of oppression and war.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:49 pm |
    • mike

      Untrue. Our society is modeled after the ancient Greeks. Further, the Bible itself is based upon much older works. The Old Testament is largely lifted from much older Sumerian, Egyptian, and other myths, and even many of the stories of Jesus were plagiarized from other sources. Frankly, the origins of these morals is irrelevant, so long as people adhere to them. So stop trying to exploit social ills to push your chosen brand of myth.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:55 pm |
    • clarity

      @Forseen: Rubbish.

      The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature; and if men are now sufficiently enlightened to disabuse themselves of artifice, imposture, hypocrisy, and superstition, they will consider this event as an era in their history. It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses.

      Thirteen governments [of the original states] thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, and which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favor of the rights of mankind.

      –John Adams

      February 10, 2013 at 4:55 pm |
    • sam stone

      Sorry, Foreskin, two, maybe three of the ten commandments are law.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:57 pm |
    • sybaris

      Love this. Such a symbol of christian ignorance and myopia.

      It doesn't explain why non-christian people, regions, countries become prosperous and good.

      February 10, 2013 at 5:15 pm |
  14. Interesting

    An article asking Christians to be nice, and 32 pages of Christians being nasty.

    February 10, 2013 at 4:40 pm |
    • Foreseen

      Interesting that you are dsylexic.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:44 pm |
    • Interesting

      What the fuck are you talking about?

      Oh, "dsylexic" is actually spelled "dyslexic." Nice irony.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:47 pm |
  15. Mirror Mirror

    Basic Christian position, articulatedx by Jesus and the Bible: believe and obey or you will be tortured forever.

    Definition of terrorism: "Tthe systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion."

    Jesus was a terrorist, the Bible was terrorist, and Christians who say you aree going to hell are terrorists.

    February 10, 2013 at 4:38 pm |
    • Judge Not Lest Ye be Judged

      That's a bit harsh. Let's just say they're delusional.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:40 pm |
    • There is no other way...

      ... to read the text.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:48 pm |
    • BajaDelMar

      They are definitely deluded, but I do tend to agree somewhat with the original poster because the majority of people in this country are xian and so are an even greater majority of our government leaders. As an atheist It makes me feel uneasy just thinking about that.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:53 pm |
  16. Judge Not Lest Ye be Judged

    Please specify which "god" you're referring to in your judgemental rants. In this country with freedom of religion it can get quite confusing. :)

    February 10, 2013 at 4:38 pm |
    • lol??

      Just look to the one exercising all power. You won't miss him, the gubmint god.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:49 pm |
  17. angel

    God in His way was testing Abraham to see if he would be willing to sacrifice his own son,God had no intention of letting Abraham do this,as the rest of the story shows a Ram was sacrificed.God already had decided to Sacrifice His Son Jesus,as the Bible says Sacrificed from the foundation of the world. God was revealing to Abraham,and to all,you love your son,and I love my Son,I'll Sacrifice my Son in all of mankind's place,so the sacrificing of both animals and man will never happen again,as we all love our sons and daughters,the sons and daughters of all people everywhere.As John 3:16,says,God so loved the world,the world is all the people in the world.

    February 10, 2013 at 4:34 pm |
    • Judge Not Lest Ye be Judged

      Which gawd? Zeus or Buddha or Confucius?

      February 10, 2013 at 4:36 pm |
    • Athy

      Angel, written like a true religie. Incorrect spacing and capitalization all over the place.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:36 pm |
    • End Religion

      The bible is fiction. Care to try again?

      February 10, 2013 at 4:36 pm |
    • BajaDelMar

      ... or possibly Fire, Sun, Moon or Water????

      February 10, 2013 at 4:38 pm |
    • Al

      What was he doing when he had all the first born sons in the land killed? He killed a bunch of babies to show how awesome and loving a god he is...

      February 10, 2013 at 4:46 pm |
  18. bluetail75

    So much hate from the non-Christians, liberals, and atheists here. It's not the Christians that are haters. In fact I meet a lot more liberals that are supposed to be tolerant are some of the most angry and unhappy people around. I know many, many Christians that are honest, fair, "nice," people. But none of them are perfect just like none of you are perfect and so the first time a non-perfect Christian shows it, the atheists jump down their throat. Jesus is salvation. He even said that his people are not perfect. We are not perfect, just forgiven. But those who do not believe don't understand that and they have the choice to believe against God, just look at the state of the world. it is not in its current state because God is choosing to make it that way, it is in that state because more and more people are leaving Him. No surprise, He said it would happen. But when He returns and there can then be no denying His existence, still people will not believe and yes they will stay in their fallen state because they chose that. If that is what they want, God will give it to them but they will without a doubt regret it later.

    February 10, 2013 at 4:31 pm |
    • Mirror Mirror

      Thanks for sharing your hatred of liberals, non-Christians and atheists.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:33 pm |
    • BajaDelMar

      That's BS and you know it. That's another thing you phony two-faced xians do all the time. LIE.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:34 pm |
    • Judge Not Lest Ye be Judged

      Wow. You just typed 2 paragraphs worth of judgmental, self-righteous, sanctimonious "Christian" haughtiness.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:35 pm |
    • lol??

      The libby's have a zero tolerance policy, and their application while under the influence, is a little wobbly.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:43 pm |
    • psych ward staff

      Evidently you either missed posts by "pervert alert" or "truth be told" or are pretending they don't exist.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:45 pm |
    • BajaDelMar

      Speaking of under the influence. Sorry we don't understand jibberish, so you can start making sense anytime now.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:47 pm |
    • HarryHoudinii

      Missed the point of the article, did ya bluetail?

      February 10, 2013 at 4:50 pm |
    • ¤Virgo¤

      Matthew 7 (NIV)

      7:1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

      You have just shown your own intolerance with your tirade against atheists, liberals, and non-Christians. Congratulations. This article was all about YOU.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:53 pm |
  19. To be anounced

    I saw a bumper sticker that said Jesus may love you but everybody else thinks your a A hole.

    February 10, 2013 at 4:30 pm |
    • Aldewacs

      The funniest post today. Thanks for the laugh.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:38 pm |
  20. Russ

    Read the Gospels. Jesus was not "nice."
    Sometimes compassionate, sometimes direct, sometimes angry (especially toward the religious right) – but "nice"?
    Hard to be 'nice' when people want you dead.

    It would be like asking Martin Luther King, Jr to be "nice."
    If you mean compassionate, yes – that's why he chose "aggressive, non-violent" forms of protest.
    But if you mean "pretend things are ok as they are", then... no, 'nice' is not an option.

    February 10, 2013 at 4:27 pm |
    • Chad

      Outstanding comment Russ.

      " “All the most terrifying passages in the New Testament come from the mouth of Our Lord.” - C.S. Lewis

      February 10, 2013 at 4:30 pm |
    • Yep

      Of course. Jesus was a terrorist. He came to terrorize people into subservient obedience.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:35 pm |
    • Miriam

      Who wants you dead? Most people just want you to leave them alone.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:35 pm |
    • HarryHoudinii

      Way to dodge the underlying issue by redefining terms to suit your needs, Russ.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:42 pm |
    • Science

      Einstein letter, set for auction, shows scientist challenging idea of God, being 'chosen'

      By Jessica Ravitz, CNN

      Decades before atheist scientist and author Richard Dawkins called God a "delusion," one world-renowned physicist – Albert Einstein – was weighing in on faith matters with his own strong words.

      “The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends,” Einstein wrote in German in a 1954 letter that will be auctioned on eBay later this month. "No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this.”

      February 10, 2013 at 4:48 pm |
    • clarity

      The gospels. Ah yes. Some early Christian apologists claimed that the gospels were not plagiarizing earlier pagan stories, but that Satan set the whole thing up to confuse everyone. That's the ticket – the gospels were not copy-cats – the older similar stories were a ruse set up by Satan – in advance! wink wink.

      February 10, 2013 at 4:49 pm |
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45

Post a comment

You must be logged in to post a comment.

Advertisement
About this blog

The CNN Belief Blog covers the faith angles of the day's biggest stories, from breaking news to politics to entertainment, fostering a global conversation about the role of religion and belief in readers' lives. It's edited by CNN's Daniel Burke with contributions from Eric Marrapodi and CNN's worldwide news gathering team.