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February 14th, 2013
05:04 AM ET

Next pope will inherit sex abuse issue

CNN's Max Foster talks about controversies the next pope will face, including sex abuse allegations within the church.

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- A. Hawkins

Filed under: Catholic Church • Pope • Sex abuse

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  1. Gonzo

    It doesn't matter what the pope inherits. Sheep will still show up and believe no matter what. You can literally r@pe their children and they will keep coming back. Wise group of folks.

    February 18, 2013 at 5:25 pm |
  2. motive

    read the docu-ments here, crimes agaiunst humanity by the catholic church http://ccrjustice. org/iccvaticanprosecution

    February 16, 2013 at 9:59 am |
  3. motive

    this is why the pope is retiring, he needs to hide. http://www.snapnetwork. org/snap_legal_action

    February 16, 2013 at 9:51 am |
  4. motive

    .catholics will deflect discussion of abuse with small percent?>? Where do they get there data from? The church? I get mine from victims and victim groups directly. We have nearly 20% abused and nearly 50% of those are pedos. In fact no other group has such a high % of pedos as this one.

    Catholics deflect and deceive.

    so catholics, tell us all here. What did the catholic church do to set the good example to help children victims? NOTHING. In fact they covered up the crimes to protect themselves and their reputation, leaving the child to fend for themselves. Many children developed mental illness due to the abuse.

    And the catholic church continues to harm children victims as they lobby to stop laws that would expose the truth. Imagine that!!!

    The worst crimes were the cover ups.

    Stop deflecting by saying others did it too.

    –>> Start acting like an adult and addressing what the catholic church has done to help children victims. <<- answer that question.

    February 16, 2013 at 9:17 am |
  5. Sara Howells

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcyW7rMYR7A&w=640&h=360]

    February 15, 2013 at 9:11 am |
  6. G. Zeus Kreiszchte

    Ha ha ha ha! In today's "news" a media outlet could continuously post this story...as if it would ever change.

    Catholic Cabal Continues to Protect Pedant Priests from Accountability to the Law!

    When is the last time this wasn't true? Can you say "NEVER"?

    February 14, 2013 at 9:33 pm |
  7. Test

    Test

    February 14, 2013 at 9:23 pm |
    • Akira

      Yay! You passed!

      February 14, 2013 at 9:47 pm |
    • LinCA

      @Test

      You said, "Test"
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      To circumvent the filters you can break up the words by putting an extra character in, like: consti.tution (breaking the oh so naughty "tit").

      February 15, 2013 at 11:00 am |
  8. Nationalgymnasiummuseumsanatoriumandsuspensoriumordinaryprivatdocentgeneralhistoryspecialprofessordoctor Kriegfried Ueberallgemein

    Bllrrrrbbb......

    February 14, 2013 at 9:22 pm |
  9. Rocket

    Wow! CNN belief blog sure does love them Catholics

    February 14, 2013 at 9:01 pm |
    • J. Squirrel

      Yes, there really isn't any abuse scandal. It's all just a CNN trick.

      February 14, 2013 at 9:24 pm |
  10. GodFreeNow

    Well, just because one pope is a se.x abuser, it don't mean that the next pope will automatically inherit that same problem.

    February 14, 2013 at 8:13 pm |
    • Mass Debater

      With the Popes infallibility, he can bang little boys all he wants with no Catholic laws being broken, because if he does it, then it's legal...

      February 15, 2013 at 10:56 am |
  11. Bootyfunk

    the next move is to have a new pope come in - new leadership means all the bad stuff has gone away, right?. he'll say, "we're going to get tough on priests that touch little boys." they won't. they'll do what doc.uments have shown they've done for centuries - cover it up. i wonder if it's because these priests are v.irgin/celibates that never know what an adult relationship is like that they eventually go down the path of child molester? or is it that they're a child molester at heart, so join the clergy because they know the church supplies victims and protects the abuser? silly religion. always saying that s.ex is evil. always saying not having s.ex is somehow righteous and not a sign of depression/loneliness. from the adam and eve story, we've learned to be ashamed of our bodies. once they ate from the tree of knowledge, they knew naked human = bad. the bible corrupts natural s.exuality. the bible has so many passages about i.ncest and r.ape it's hard to believe anyone looks to that outdated book for guidance.

    protip for the church: s.ex is not evil. s.ex is a great. it's just not good when you do it with children.

    February 14, 2013 at 6:14 pm |
    • Samwise

      your pro-tio is completly right

      February 14, 2013 at 9:49 pm |
  12. Reality

    The s-ex abuse scandal exposed the weak theological and historic foundations of the RCC and Christianity in general. The supports of these foundations are collapsing fast and the RCC and Christianity are on life support. Time to pull the plug!!!!

    February 14, 2013 at 4:40 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      Ummm..no. Does no work for you?

      February 14, 2013 at 4:43 pm |
    • Reality

      Summarizing the weak foundations of Christianity :

      The Apostles' / Agnostics’ Creed of 2013 (updated by yours truly based on the studies of NT historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

      Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
      and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
      human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven?????

      I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
      preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
      named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
      girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

      Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
      the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

      He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
      a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
      Jerusalem.

      Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
      many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
      ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
      Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
      grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
      and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
      called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

      Amen
      (References used are available upon request.)

      February 15, 2013 at 12:23 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      I guess no didn't work for you. Guess we'll have to shove your nose in it to teach you.
      Bad copy/paster...bad!

      February 15, 2013 at 1:50 pm |
    • ..

      Uncouth Swain, lolol!

      February 15, 2013 at 9:48 pm |
    • Here Now

      Somebody sounds mad. Better call...nobody. trololollol 😀

      February 16, 2013 at 2:03 am |
  13. Christianity is a form of SEVERE mental illness

    To remain catholic is to support the immoral

    February 14, 2013 at 1:51 pm |
    • owlafaye

      Unfair? Just what do you describe child molestation as? You think child molestation is fair?

      February 14, 2013 at 2:42 pm |
    • TROLL ALERT

      AvdBerg is a TROLL on this site, they are proven liars and are only here to sell their book and website for their cult.

      Click the report abuse link to get rid of this troll...

      February 14, 2013 at 3:40 pm |
    • Answer

      AvdBerg was proven wrong on their post so now they're only giving their website out.

      "while the Word of God teaches us to call no man your father upon the earth" .

      Answer: http://www.catholic.com/tracts/call-no-man-father

      February 14, 2013 at 3:41 pm |
    • Christianity is a form of SEVERE mental illness

      To remain german is to support the immoral

      To remain American is to support the immoral

      To remain mongolian is to support the immoral

      To remain white is to support the immoral

      To remain british is to support the immoral

      February 14, 2013 at 4:23 pm |
  14. Bootyfunk

    http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s06e08-red-hot-catholic-love

    February 14, 2013 at 1:36 pm |
    • owlafaye

      Bootyfunk...thanks for the Onion article on the pope...simply hilarious.

      February 14, 2013 at 3:14 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      i do my best! 🙂

      February 14, 2013 at 5:48 pm |
  15. Uncouth Swain

    Of course he will inherit the issue. Either because he will try to take care of the issue or the media won't ever...EVER...let them forget about it.

    February 14, 2013 at 1:05 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      And they shouldn't let them ever forget about it. Any other organization that acted in such a way would, and should, be abandoned.

      February 14, 2013 at 1:26 pm |
    • Akira

      The media, and the world, should absolutely keep up the pressure to eliminate child rapists from any organization, religious or not.

      February 14, 2013 at 1:26 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      i know, it's so unfair how the media keeps reminding the catholic church that they are protecting child molesters. what jerks!

      February 14, 2013 at 1:31 pm |
    • owlafaye

      You folks have to remeber:

      In 300 years the Roman Catholic Church will refer to these times as one in which the church was falsely and malignantly attacked by atheists, non-believers, evildoers, government and Satanic enemies of Christianity.

      They will say:

      "Against a massive effort to discredit the piety and chasteness of the clergy with accusations of heinous crimes, the church and her followers fought a protracted battle against this evil... eventually triumphing in the name of Jesus and to the greater glory of the mother church."

      I assure you that this will come to pass...this has always been the strategy of the criminal enterprise called Catholicism.

      February 14, 2013 at 2:45 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      @Blessed are the Cheesemakers- "Any other organization that acted in such a way would, and should, be abandoned"

      It should be fixed and made never to let such things happen again. With your way of thinking, there would be no nations because ever govt has screwed up at some time.

      February 14, 2013 at 4:26 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      Akira- "The media, and the world, should absolutely keep up the pressure to eliminate child rapists from any organization, religious or not."

      As long as they are seeking justice...then I agree. If they are just using this tragedy to further a anti-catholic pov...then they are wrong.

      February 14, 2013 at 4:28 pm |
    • Akira

      Uncouth, I am glad we agree.
      I don't find that the MSM is inherently anti-Catholic; I think they are more anti-pedophilia and pro-victim.

      February 14, 2013 at 8:08 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      "It should be fixed and made never to let such things happen again. With your way of thinking, there would be no nations because ever govt has screwed up at some time."

      Swain,

      You are arguing apples and oranges. Nations are necessary for establishing law and order. The Catholic church is not necessary, as such they are more akin to any other organization that can be abandoned and suffer extinction. I did it and you can too.

      February 14, 2013 at 9:25 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      "Nations are necessary for establishing law and order. The Catholic church is not necessary, as such they are more akin to any other organization that can be abandoned and suffer extinction. I did it and you can too."

      Eh...the Vatican is a nation.

      Can what? Suffer extinction?

      I'm not Catholic...but I recognize that the Pope and the RCC in general is an inst itution that does put the face of Christianity forward into the world.

      February 15, 2013 at 1:53 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      "Eh...the Vatican is a nation."

      Swain,

      So what? It is not a nation in the sense that anyone is born there, they have no standing army. There is no "populace", There would not be a loss of order, I notice you didn't touch my point that the church is not necessary. The fact that the Vatican was given Sovereignty has everything to do with its power and nothing to do with creating law and order for a population. Ohh, and I was Catholic.

      February 16, 2013 at 11:49 am |
  16. kafantaris2

    The resignation of Pope Benedict XVI is a masterstroke if it leads the Roman Catholic Church to electing its first black Pope.
    If only the Archbishops of Eastern Orthodox Churches had such foresight - and courage.

    February 14, 2013 at 10:54 am |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      I could describe the church leadership in many different ways. "Courageous" would not make the list.

      February 14, 2013 at 11:46 am |
    • derp

      I would love to see the bullet proof popemobile with 22 inch dubs and a hydraulic suspension.

      February 14, 2013 at 1:29 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      hahaha. the pope will be white, business as usual. there's no way those old white guys would take orders from a black guy. they're still living in the dark ages.

      February 14, 2013 at 1:32 pm |
  17. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    February 14, 2013 at 7:47 am |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!

      February 14, 2013 at 8:01 am |
    • Science

      Education is better for children

      Earth From Space No God(s) required

      Detailed satellite images reveal the web of connections that sustain life on Earth. Aired February 13, 2013 on PBS

      Program Description

      "Earth From Space" is a groundbreaking two-hour special that reveals a spectacular new space-based vision of our planet. Produced in extensive consultation with NASA scientists, NOVA takes data from earth-observing satellites and transforms it into dazzling visual sequences, each one exposing the intricate and surprising web of forces that sustains life on earth. Viewers witness how dust blown from the Sahara fertilizes the Amazon; how a vast submarine "waterfall" off Antarctica helps drive ocean currents around the world; and how the sun's heating up of the southern Atlantic gives birth to a colossally powerful hurricane. From the microscopic world of water molecules vaporizing over the ocean to the magnetic field that is bigger than Earth itself, the show reveals the astonishing beauty and complexity of our dynamic planet.

      http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/space/earth-from-space.html

      February 14, 2013 at 8:41 am |
    • Bootyfunk

      prayer wastes valuable time.

      February 14, 2013 at 1:32 pm |
    • owlafaye

      Nothing Fails Like Prayer

      Remember, these people get on their knees and beg to statues and the very priests that molest their children...Catholicism is organized depravity. They are all criminals simply because they belong and support criminality.

      February 14, 2013 at 2:48 pm |
  18. End Religion

    I think they fired the current pope because he didn't take advantage of the coming meteor to scare up enough converts to meet quota.

    February 14, 2013 at 7:43 am |
    • Science

      You mean no end of days bummer.

      February 14, 2013 at 7:50 am |
    • billy jack is healthy for children and other living things

      The constant concern about the end of days and Revelations as a literal prophecy is called millennialism. It is a fundamentalist, neo-Protestant theological belief, not Catholic. Your bigotry is showing.

      February 14, 2013 at 12:23 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      the end of days is in the bible, which the catholics put together. so no, he's not wrong - you are. ask a catholic if they believe in the end days.

      February 14, 2013 at 1:30 pm |
    • derp

      Yeah, the catholics never came up with the whole "end of days" thing.

      They were busy perfecting the "organized child r a p e and coverup" thing.

      February 14, 2013 at 1:31 pm |
    • End Religion

      First of all, I think my post is pretty obviously a joke.

      Second, if the pope *did* want to use it, he didn't have to specifically say, "Friday is the end of the world." He could have used it in any number of ways to easily rustle up some fear, which is the basis for all religion. I am honestly surprised to not see very many "asteroid hoax – scientists covering up end of days" web sites and stories. It is a perfect situation for nuts to get agitated.

      Third, BJ, it is your position that Catholics have no Armageddon, End of Days, Judgement, Second Coming (whatever you want to call it) beliefs? I don't know who would buy that argument.

      February 14, 2013 at 5:27 pm |
    • billy jack is healthy for children and other living things

      @end religion and bootyfunk: First, I am Catholic. Yes Catholics believe there will be and end of the world, but Catholics believe that no man will ever know when that end will be until it comes. The belief that you can figure out when the end of the world is coming from Revelations and Daniel is a belief called millennialism that the Roman Catholic Church does not subscribe. Millennialism has it's roots in the Puritans of 17th century New England, not the Roman Catholic Church or the Levant.

      The prophetic images of Revelations are not to be taken as literal prophecy. The images were a literary device of St John the Divine to write about the sacking of Jerusalem and the destruction of the temple in 70 A.D by the Roman legions under the command of Nero. In fact the "number of the beast" aka 666 is a direct reference to Nero, not a description of a future event. The characters of the ancient Greek alphabet had numerical as well as linguistic values and the sum of the letters that spelled Caesar Nero equaled 666.

      Catholic teaching is that since no one knows when the hour of the second coming is at hand, you should live your life in the best possible manner to be prepared for when it does occur, should that be today, tomorrow or a billion years from now.

      My understanding comes from the Rite of Christian Initiation for Adults (RCIA) classes that adult converts to the Roman Catholic Church must attend for 9 months to a year before becoming a member.

      February 14, 2013 at 6:04 pm |
    • billy jack is healthy for children and other living things

      @end relgion and bootyfunk: My apologies, meant to end my reply to you both with well wishes for peace. God Bless

      February 14, 2013 at 6:05 pm |
  19. Bootyfunk

    good in-depth story about the pope's resignation from The Onion, America's finest news source:

    Resigning Pope No Longer Has Strength To Lead Church Backward
    http://www.theonion.com/articles/resigning-pope-no-longer-has-strength-to-lead-chur,31248/

    February 14, 2013 at 5:46 am |
    • Bootyfunk

      VATICAN CITY—Citing his advancing age and deteriorating health, Pope Benedict XVI announced his resignation from the papacy Monday, saying he no longer possessed the strength and energy required to lead the Catholic Church backward.

      According to the 85-year-old pontiff, after considerable prayer and reflection on his physical stamina and mental acuity, he concluded that his declining faculties left him unable to helm the Church’s ambitious regressive agenda and guide the faith’s one billion global followers on their steady march away from modernity and cultural advancement.

      “It is with sadness, but steadfast conviction, that I announce I am no longer capable of impeding social progress with the energy and endurance that is required of the highest ministry in the Roman Catholic Church,” Benedict reportedly said in Latin to the Vatican’s highest cardinals. “While I’m proud of the strides the Church has made over the past eight years, from thwarting AIDS-prevention efforts in Africa to failing to punish or even admit to decades of s.exual abuse of children at the hands of clergy, it has become evident to me that, in this rapidly evolving world, I now lack the capacity to continue guiding this faith back centuries.”

      “Thus, I must step down from the papacy,” he added. “But let me assure every member of the Church that the Vatican’s commitment to narrow-mindedness and social obstruction will long live on after my departure.”

      Word of Benedict’s resignation—the first for a sitting pope in nearly 600 years—reportedly stunned the world’s Catholic faithful, many of whom believed the German-born pontiff still had years of stymieing female advancement in Church roles, opposing stem cell research, and inflaming tensions with Jews, Muslims, and Anglicans left in him.

      Other members of the faith, however, said they recognized the Holy Father had, as of late, grown slower and more feeble in his ability to block measures regarding scientific discovery and same-s.ex rights. Many believers expressed appreciation that Benedict recognized his limitations at obstructing society’s advancement, and admitted feeling a sense of excitement that a new pontiff could reinvigorate the faith’s obsolete ideology and guide the Church toward bold social norms unseen since the Middle Ages.

      “I’ll always appreciate what Benedict XVI did for limiting my ability to receive basic health care services,” said devout Catholic Ana Maria Fernández of Buenos Aires. “He was a visionary leader who was undaunted by modern realities and social trends, always vowing to triumph over modern ideals of fairness, equality, and in many cases, even basic human compa.ssion to achieve a darker, far more regressive world for all of us.”

      “I doubt we’ll ever find another leader so committed to reversing society’s natural progression of post-Enlightenment values,” Fernández added. “He will truly be missed.”

      Responding to the widespread outpouring of shock and sadness surrounding his resignation, Benedict issued a brief statement Monday afternoon consoling his followers, assuring them that “the Church’s most ignorant and regressive days still lie ahead of us.”

      February 14, 2013 at 5:50 am |
    • Science

      RCC can go backwards , but the rest of the earth's population will go forward.

      Earth From Space

      Detailed satellite images reveal the web of connections that sustain life on Earth. Aired February 13, 2013 on PBS

      Program Description

      "Earth From Space" is a groundbreaking two-hour special that reveals a spectacular new space-based vision of our planet. Produced in extensive consultation with NASA scientists, NOVA takes data from earth-observing satellites and transforms it into dazzling visual sequences, each one exposing the intricate and surprising web of forces that sustains life on earth. Viewers witness how dust blown from the Sahara fertilizes the Amazon; how a vast submarine "waterfall" off Antarctica helps drive ocean currents around the world; and how the sun's heating up of the southern Atlantic gives birth to a colossally powerful hurricane. From the microscopic world of water molecules vaporizing over the ocean to the magnetic field that is bigger than Earth itself, the show reveals the astonishing beauty and complexity of our dynamic planet.

      http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/space/earth-from-space.html

      Peace

      February 14, 2013 at 6:07 am |
    • Akira

      Lol! Gotta love the Onion.

      February 14, 2013 at 1:20 pm |
  20. Bootyfunk

    bened.ict is leaving after protecting child molesters within the church ranks. they've known about it for centuries, of course, and done nothing. in this modern world, that is unacceptable, as bened.ict found out. now he's leaving, dodging out on handling the issue. what a inhuman coward. he could have said, "the church will, from now on, not only cooperate with the police in molestation charges made against a church official, but we will actively help prosecute the monsters that violate the most helpless of us all - children." but of course, he didn't say that or anything close. the usually apologies too long after the fact. flimsy promises to stop child s.ex abuse in the church. so bened.ict is handing the issue over to the new pope - who will also dodge the issue.

    if these were "good" people in any way, they would never cover up such abuse. the church doc.uments that were released shows priests/cardinals/etc knew exactly what was happening. the doc.uments are horribly graphic. they knew and did nothing but move the offending priests to another parish - where they usually started molesting a whole new group of children. absolutely disgusting.

    the church is the leading force for good in this world? lol, no, not even close.

    February 14, 2013 at 5:31 am |
    • Sane Person

      I agree 100%, as should anyone with a sense of morals

      February 14, 2013 at 9:22 am |
    • New Athiest

      +1

      February 14, 2013 at 12:49 pm |
    • owlafaye

      I believe the recent arrest warrant for the pope had something to do with it. The pope has been charged with genocide and the Vatican has not rebutted the charges as of today. This comes out of Canada in relation to the genocide of 50,000 indigenous children in that country.

      February 14, 2013 at 2:54 pm |
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