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Police: Man raped woman he met on Christian dating website
Sean Banks was arrested on suspicion of raping a woman he met on the online dating website, Christianmingle.com.
February 19th, 2013
03:10 PM ET

Police: Man raped woman he met on Christian dating website

By Ben Brumfield, CNN

(CNN) - A California man is accused of raping a woman he met on a Christian dating website - and police fear there may be other victims.

Sean Banks, 37, met the victim on the matchmaking website Christianmingle.com, where he went by the user name "Raritiy," La Mesa Police said in a statement.

Banks used three additional online identities - "Rylan," "Rylan Butterwood" and "Rylan Harbough" - and police said they are concerned "there may have been more cases with other women."

ChristianMingle touts a safety section that includes a warning to avoid contact with members who cannot take "no" for an answer.

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  1. clarity

    When I read something like what "truth be told" posted below, I realize precisely the kind of religious extremist James Madison was speaking about when he wrote:

    During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution.

    or when Thomas Jefferson wrote:

    Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth.

    Thankfully, in the U.S., we have a strong wall of separation between church and state (mostly top the credit of JM & TJ); and thankfully, the more the religious extremists push against the wall, the more the wall stands firm, the more the law is considered and more and more it is applied throughout civic law. So, in an odd way, religious extremists, while dwindling in numbers, are helping government address the overall attempts to circumvent the wall of separation; they are helping us learn how to better apply the ideals brought forth by James Madison in the 1st Amendment. As he reflected:

    Every new & successful example therefore of a perfect separation between ecclesiastical and civil matters, is of importance. And I have no doubt that every new example, will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt. will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.

    The Civil Govt, tho' bereft of everything like an associated hierarchy, possesses the requisite stability and performs its functions with complete success, Whilst the number, the industry, and the morality of the Priesthood, & the devotion of the people have been manifestly increased by the total separation of the Church from the State.

    February 20, 2013 at 6:59 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      It's always refreshing to hear some out of context quotes by some old white dudes from centuries ago about other people thousands of years ago. Good job clarity...good job!

      February 20, 2013 at 7:06 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You have a much more reasoned response, clarity. When I read something posted by this pos, my reaction is nausea.

      February 20, 2013 at 7:07 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      This has to be a sock puppet US. The real thing is far more eloquent.

      February 20, 2013 at 7:08 pm |
    • lol??

      The commie mommies wrap themselves in the flag and that is like it was from the beginning for da flag seller. He hooked up with the socialists in da schools.

      February 20, 2013 at 7:14 pm |
    • clarity

      Prove the quotes are out of context Uncouth Swain.

      February 20, 2013 at 7:24 pm |
    • clarity

      Tom, are you saying US is not the real Uncouth?

      February 20, 2013 at 7:25 pm |
    • clarity

      Interesting. If I think the same was as the idiot lol??, the people responsible for religious freedom in America must be "commies".

      February 20, 2013 at 7:27 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      @clarity- considering that you didn't offer full citations for those you quoted...it still falls on you a little to show where your stuff came from.

      February 20, 2013 at 7:30 pm |
    • clarity

      During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution.

      (James Madison, from A Memorial and Remonstrance delivered to the Virginia General Assembly in 1785.)

      Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth.

      (Thomas Jefferson, from Notes on the State of Virginia, 1785)

      Every new & successful example therefore of a perfect separation between ecclesiastical and civil matters, is of importance. And I have no doubt that every new example, will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt. will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.

      The Civil Govt, tho' bereft of everything like an associated hierarchy, possesses the requisite stability and performs its functions with complete success, Whilst the number, the industry, and the morality of the Priesthood, & the devotion of the people have been manifestly increased by the total separation of the Church from the State.

      (Jame Madison, from letters to Edward Livingston and Robert Walsh)

      Here's another one:

      I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved – the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced! With the rational respect that is due to it, knavish priests have added prostitutions of it, that fill or might fill the blackest and bloodiest pages of human history. "

      (John Adams, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson, 09/03/1816)

      Here's another one:

      If we look back into history for the character of present sects in Christianity, we shall find few that have not in their turns been persecutors, and complainers of persecution. The primitive Christians thought persecution extremely wrong in the Pagans, but practised it on one another. The first Protestants of the Church of England, blamed persecution in the Roman church, but practised it against the Puritans: these found it wrong in the Bishops, but fell into the same practice themselves both here and in New England.

      (Ben Franklin, from a letter to The London Packet, 3 June 1772)

      I would urge all readers to research the full documents from which these quotes were snipped.

      So, Uncouth, care to prove your claim that these are out of context??

      February 20, 2013 at 7:41 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Yup, clarity, that is what I'm saying. I don't think this is the real Lycidas.

      Not his style. The writing falls far short of the usual US/Lycidas quality.

      February 20, 2013 at 7:45 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      (sent it to the wrong spot..try this again)

      Uncouth Swain

      @clarity- "During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superst ition, bigotry, and persecution."

      May I offer this for reference: http://www.fallacyfiles.org/contexts.html

      "Exposure: The contextomy leaves out the crucial part of the sentence which shows that Madison was not arguing against Christianity per se, but against its legal establishment, or the establishment of any religion. Moreover, given that he was writing in 1785, the Christian religion had been "on trial" for almost eighteen, as opposed to fifteen, centuries. Madison was presumably dating the legal establishment of Christianity to the reign of Constantine, the first Christian emperor of Rome, in the early fourth century, that is, "almost fifteen centuries" earlier. Madison's words were taken from a lengthy argument against a specific bill in Virginia's legislature which would have levied a tax in order to financially support the teaching of Christianity, and he argued against such a tax on the grounds that past legal support of Christianity had led to its corruption."

      So if your point in posting that quote to was to speak out against the legal establishment of christianity in the nation...then I agree with you. Was that your point?

      February 20, 2013 at 7:59 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      For the Thomas Jefferson part: "To the corruptions of Christianity I am indeed, opposed; but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself. I am a Christian, in the only sense in which he wished any one to be; sincerely attached to his doctrines, in preference to all others; ascribing to himself every human excellence; and believing he never claimed any other."
      (letter to Benjamin Rush 1803)

      Again, if your point was that Jefferson was against the corruption within the religion of christianity, then I would agree.

      February 20, 2013 at 8:03 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      I agree that everyone should read the full letters because when one looks at the entirety of Ben's letter..he also has:

      "In New-England, where the legislative bodies are almost to a man Dissenters from the Church of England,
      1. There is no test to prevent Churchmen holding offices.
      2. The sons of Churchmen have the full benefit of the Universities.
      3. The taxes for support of public worship, when paid by Churchmen, are given to the Episcopal minister."

      Seems like he had nothing against those that belonged to a religion from holding offices. Mostly his letter seemed more political based than religious.

      February 20, 2013 at 8:11 pm |
    • Mass Debater

      I'm sorry Uncouth, but Jefferson's words stand on their own regardless of the tax he was fighting. You can try and make excuses and whine and moan about it but those are some powerful words said by a powerful founder of this nation and no amount of double talk or misinformation will obfuscate the truth.

      February 20, 2013 at 8:24 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      @Mass Debater- "but Jefferson's words stand on their own regardless of the tax he was fighting."

      Um, are you talking Ben or Thomas here?

      "You can try and make excuses and whine and moan about it but those are some powerful words said by a powerful founder of this nation and no amount of double talk or misinformation will obfuscate the truth."

      So...when Thomas said, "I am a Christian", you fully support that statement...good to know.

      February 20, 2013 at 8:32 pm |
    • Cosette

      My nipples are all tingly. Chad must be nearby.

      February 20, 2013 at 8:34 pm |
    • clarity

      And please show me where I said Madison hated Christianity, US. My point was to show that he was upset with extreme views among his fellow Anglicans. So first you were wrong about him being an "old white dude". When he delivered the Memorial and Remonstrance he was a fairly young man – a young man who was furious about the injustice he saw in his fellow Anglicans (as early Episcopals) and how they were persecuting the Baptists in Virginia. I contend that his first-hand experience in Virginia along with the increasing influence of Deism at the time enable him to step back from the extremist Christian view; I contend that those factors helped him turn into one of the fiercest advocates for separation of church and state – helping him realize that the new government could not work if any one religious sect got the upper hand.

      February 20, 2013 at 8:35 pm |
    • clarity

      And remember, USwain, my post referenced a post by TBT, so if you're trying to support your claim that these quotes are out of context, you need to reference what I said with respect to what TBT said.

      February 20, 2013 at 8:38 pm |
    • truth be told

      To deny the Truth is to enable sin.

      February 20, 2013 at 8:39 pm |
    • clarity

      This UC does sound a bit Chardonian, Cosette.

      February 20, 2013 at 8:39 pm |
    • clarity

      USwain – "If your point...", then on another post "If your point....."

      Hmm. Already determined that I had used something out of context and yet, now is saying he didn't understand my point; AND didn't reference the other post I was referencing...... Hmmmm.

      February 20, 2013 at 8:44 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      "what I said with respect to what TBT said."

      I usually pay very little attention to what he says and not exactly sure which thing he said you are referencing.

      But it's late....if I missed something specific that makes all your quotations work against TBT...my apologizes. I just know that many ppl tend to use those quotes in the wrong manner.

      February 20, 2013 at 8:45 pm |
  2. Cosette

    Christian dating is just wrong. Same sects relations are NOT right with God.

    February 20, 2013 at 6:57 pm |
    • Really-O?

      This "Cosette" must be an imposter, as the real "Cosette" (one of Chad's sockpuppets) is not nearly this clever.

      February 20, 2013 at 7:07 pm |
    • Cosette

      Shhhh... we must be vewy qwiet. We're hunting wabbits.

      February 20, 2013 at 7:09 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @Cosette -

      "Good heavens! He disintegwated."

      February 20, 2013 at 7:12 pm |
    • Bugs

      Ehhhh, what's up, doc?

      February 20, 2013 at 7:17 pm |
    • Marvin the Martian

      Oh, how simply dandy. I've captured another earth creature. Why, isn't that lovely? Hugo will be so happy to have a playmate, but you know how lonesome he gets...

      February 20, 2013 at 8:28 pm |
  3. truth be told

    The lie that ho mose xuals are not pedophiles is one of the biggest both mos and atheist types spew. It is not accidental that the world population of so called atheists and the world population of ho mose xuals stays about 1%. It is a known fact that disgusting ho mose xuals lied their way into the priesthood to enable them access to innocence. To blame the entire church for the crimes of those lying minority perverts is like blaming banks for bank robbers.

    February 20, 2013 at 5:18 pm |
    • Doobs

      If that's true, why didn't the RCC fire them and file a report with the local law enforcement? Why did they quietly move them to another parish with fresh victims without any accountability? Why did they threaten anyone (victims, parents, other priests and nuns) with excommunication if they reported anything to outside authorities?

      Liar.

      February 20, 2013 at 5:30 pm |
    • JustTheFacts

      The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes.

      The research to date all points to there being no significant relationship between a homosexual lifestyle and child molestation. There appears to be practically no reportage of sexual molestation of girls by lesbian adults, and the adult male who sexually molests young boys is not likely to be homosexual. The debates about gay people as molesters "have little to do with everyday child abuse" and lamented that they distract lawmakers and the public from dealing with the real problem of children's sexual mistreatment.

      February 20, 2013 at 5:33 pm |
    • Saraswati

      Try looking at some actual stats. Hom'ose'xuals have much lower rates of true pe'dop'hilia (abuse of children before puberty). Consensual se'x with "minors" in the 15 to 16 year old range, depending on state statutes, is higher because young males who can go out and get se'x generally will and will lie about their age to do it. So everyone's wrong and everyone's right. The rates of true pe'do'phila being so low for males is actually a little surprising given how much more access males are given to male children than to females, a fact that skews the stats, but not enough to make a difference.

      Voluntary male-male se'x in the US is at about 20% of the population, btw, though exclusive hom'ose'xuality is much lower. In the US is is more like 5%, well above the 1% "global" figue you state, and probably a little higher due to failure to report accurately.

      February 20, 2013 at 5:39 pm |
    • ..

      It is no coincidence that religious types such as truth be told are shown to have significantly less IQ points than the rest of the population. Proof of this is his continued contention that pedophiles are gay, completely ignoring the fact that there are pedophilic priests who have raped girls. The pedophile apologist would simply say that this constitues a normal male/female relationship between the priest and parishioner, he would say. Of course, this is bullshit, but the continues abject ignorance of tbt's lies, while decrying other people as being liars, is amusing and appalling, at the same time. This dumb bitch, under his various aliases, is laughing at our continued responses to him, as this is precisely the reaction hoped for.

      February 20, 2013 at 6:06 pm |
    • lol??

      It's no coincidence the perverts are actually A&A's. They've been given up. GUO's, given up ones.

      February 20, 2013 at 6:14 pm |
    • lol??

      Yup, make a distinction between the perv with a shoe fetish and a perv that likes trophies after killin' da victims.

      February 20, 2013 at 6:17 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Just sayin, you're the biggest liar here.

      February 20, 2013 at 6:19 pm |
    • midwest rail

      " It's no coincidence the perverts are actually A&A's. "
      As usual, the Cowardly Liar just cant help it.
      I won't hold my breath waiting for a citation on that whopper.

      February 20, 2013 at 6:21 pm |
    • VanHagar

      I can only conclude that TBT is actually an atheist mole. TBT...no true follower of Christ would spew the hate and vitriol you provide us each day. Go the F away.

      February 20, 2013 at 7:06 pm |
    • truth be told

      Truth spoken in love is not hate.
      It is good to deal with what is not what we wish it were.
      All so called atheists are liars.
      To deny the Truth is to enable sin.

      February 20, 2013 at 8:34 pm |
    • fintastic

      @Lies Be Told................ why do you make baby jebus cry?

      February 21, 2013 at 8:51 am |
  4. SoldierOfConscience

    Prediction – the anti religious bigots on here will use this incident to say (or better put, bray)

    "See, all religious people are r@p1sts"

    February 20, 2013 at 4:23 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      In the same way that you say all pedophiles are ho/mose/xual?

      February 20, 2013 at 4:26 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Soldier

      Pathetic. I call you out on your dishonest bullshit, so you run to a different article and post the same shit. And you wonder why I said you have no conscience.

      February 20, 2013 at 4:28 pm |
    • SoldierOfConscience

      Hawaii I replied to your "call out"s.

      February 20, 2013 at 4:29 pm |
    • Brother Maynard

      SOC
      you would think that with 3 pages and over 350 comments ( a lot of them by atheists ) that you could find the comment
      "See, all religious people are r@p1sts"
      already, and not stoop to false accusations.

      February 20, 2013 at 4:35 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Soldier

      Yes, after I called you out on it here. You say at 4:29 you replied, but going to the other article, your replies come at 4:31. So transparently pathetic I feel almost bad for you.

      February 20, 2013 at 4:44 pm |
    • Yeppers

      Straw man and ad hominem: SOC bats a fallacy double!

      February 20, 2013 at 4:48 pm |
    • ..

      SOC likes to make excuses for the pedophile priests. Is it any wonder it'll try to divert attention away from itself by posting more bullshit on a different blog?
      Now, there is another lie from him...nobody made that assetion, because people know better. Except him.

      February 20, 2013 at 4:56 pm |
    • sam stone

      No, all religious people are not r@pists, but you ARE a moron

      February 20, 2013 at 8:38 pm |
  5. Uncouth Swain

    Wow..there have been so many wannabe comedians on here. Sadly, most have failed in their attempts but they will still try.

    I wonder when CNN will do a story on Atheist Match Maker and all 5 people on it.

    February 20, 2013 at 3:07 pm |
    • ..

      Aw. What's the matter, pissed off because your cover got blown?

      February 20, 2013 at 3:10 pm |
    • Zingo

      And Ungool Swine wins the contest for "Worst Failure In An Attempt At Comedy" with that post!

      Well not-done, Swiney!

      February 20, 2013 at 3:12 pm |
    • Mass Debater

      I'm pretty sure "blowing covers" is considered a sin where Uncouth comes from.

      February 20, 2013 at 3:13 pm |
    • ..

      He must never fart under blankets.

      February 20, 2013 at 3:15 pm |
    • TANK!!!!

      Quietly add yourself to the list of failed wannabe comedians.

      February 20, 2013 at 3:54 pm |
  6. Ufia

    "Raritiy"? Like, Carousel Boutique?

    February 20, 2013 at 2:29 pm |
  7. Atheism is great for the whole family - pets too!

    Has anything improved with Christianity since 200+ years ago?
    =================================================

    Thomas Jefferson, POTUS #3 (from Notes on the State of Virginia):

    Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth.

    James Madison, POTUS #4, chief architect of the U.S. Constitution & the Bill of Rights (from A Memorial and Remonstrance delivered to the Virginia General Assembly in 1785):

    During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution.

    John Adams, POTUS #2 (in a letter to Thomas Jefferson, 09/03/1816):

    I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved – the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced! With the rational respect that is due to it, knavish priests have added prostitutions of it, that fill or might fill the blackest and bloodiest pages of human history.

    Ben Franklin (from a letter to The London Packet, 3 June 1772):

    If we look back into history for the character of present sects in Christianity, we shall find few that have not in their turns been persecutors, and complainers of persecution. The primitive Christians thought persecution extremely wrong in the Pagans, but practised it on one another. The first Protestants of the Church of England, blamed persecution in the Roman church, but practised it against the Puritans: these found it wrong in the Bishops, but fell into the same practice themselves both here and in New England.

    Thomas Paine (from The Age of Reason):

    All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.

    February 20, 2013 at 2:16 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      Nice to have the opinions of some old white dudes from hundreds of years ago talking about people from 2,000 years ago.

      February 20, 2013 at 3:05 pm |
    • ..

      Nice to know that the writings of those old white dudes have survived...where are all of the letters Jesus himself wrote? Yeah, that's what I thought.

      February 20, 2013 at 3:13 pm |
    • So Many Fools

      Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: (Matthew 7:13)

      February 20, 2013 at 3:46 pm |
    • religion; a way to control the weak minded

      "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: (Matthew 7:13)"

      Congrats, you quote words written by mere mortals....

      February 20, 2013 at 3:57 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      @..
      Wooosh! Swing and miss. Nice try...try again.

      February 20, 2013 at 7:16 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      @fake US: well, where are they?

      February 20, 2013 at 7:18 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son- "well, where are they?"

      1. Why do you care?
      2. Is it relevant?

      February 20, 2013 at 8:40 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Hmmf, sorry about the troll that "borrowed" my username last night. Obviously I wouldn't treat so many people so harshly on here for no good reason.

      February 21, 2013 at 4:21 pm |
  8. Jeff Roem

    I'd tap that guy. He's got purty lips.

    February 20, 2013 at 1:52 pm |
  9. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things,

    February 20, 2013 at 1:48 pm |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!~,

      February 20, 2013 at 2:34 pm |
  10. Thoth

    So as long as the guy pays the father and marries her everything should be right according to their bible..... Was he charged for not paying up, or refusing to marry her?

    February 20, 2013 at 1:29 pm |
    • WASP

      XD LMFAO.

      if she was ugly then i vote refusing to marry her. XD

      February 20, 2013 at 1:31 pm |
  11. Christianity is a form of SEVERE mental illness

    Single Chrisitians...better pray hard before using this site...pray for god's magical protection

    February 20, 2013 at 1:15 pm |
  12. WASP

    NO CREATOR REQUIRED.

    1) law of energy conservation: energy can not be created nor destroyed. this means the total energy of the universe will and always has been the same.
    2) einstiens equation E=MC2: energy makes up everything in the universe, also explains how energy and matter can shift from one form to the other.
    3) the five forces of the universe: these five governing forces are the contributing factors to the creation of anything in the universe due to these forces, anything that doesn't adhere to these laws of physics would violate said laws thus not be possible in a stable universe.

    next section:
    now let's review what you consider "evidence" of god.
    1) FOSSIL RECORD: made of not only bone to stone fossils, but also amber, dehydrated corpses, footprints in mud/ash to stone fossils, leaf and insect imprints in various forms of stone, along with many other forms of preservation of dead animal/plant life from times long ago.
    CONCLUSION: NOTHING HERE SHOWS ANYTHING OF A GOD.

    2)ORIGINS OF THE UNIVERSE: no scientist worth his weight in salt would ever claim "to know how the universe was created"........we merely create a hypthosis on the present level of information that we have.
    CONCLUSION: NOTHING HERE SHOWS ANYTHING OF A GOD.

    3)FINE TUNING OF THE UNIVERSE: i call complete BS on this one. there is no gravitational "constant" ever, infact the complete opposite has been shown to be proven. the universe is accelerating outward, not falling into itself as gravity would cause. this acceleration has been attributed to "dark matter/dark energy" they use the term "dark" as to mean unknown. it is an unknown yet measurible force causingt he universe to expand at an astonishing rate.
    CONCLUSION: NO EVIDENCE OF A GOD HERE EITHER.

    so in conclusion your whole speel is complete and utter BS. whether knowingly or unknowingly you bluntly lied about everything you just posted. congrates though on the second place ribbon...................but we know what they say about second place..... XD

    February 20, 2013 at 12:35 pm |
    • WASP

      @chad:
      from the last page. nice trick dodging the last three you posted that i replied to.
      where was your reply to those on the "fossil record, etc etc" being proof of your god?

      the energy that was contained in the singularity is the same energy contained in the universe now.
      accounting for matter,energy, and other unknown energys like dark matter/dark energy, blackholes, etc.

      February 20, 2013 at 2:43 pm |
  13. Hmmmmm

    Well, the bible says God will separate the sheep from the goats, and you don't often hear about people r a p i n g goats, but them sheep tend to stay still instead of runnin away...

    February 20, 2013 at 12:32 pm |
    • WASP

      @hmmmmm: nah where sheep stand and take it, goats will kick you................or ram you. lmfao

      February 20, 2013 at 1:26 pm |
  14. derp

    If she is pregnant, it's not a problem.

    It's god will.

    A gift from the almighty.

    After all, if it were a legitimate r a p e, her body would have shut it down.

    February 20, 2013 at 11:47 am |
    • Richard Cranium

      Pretty sure god has no problem with ra pe....wasn't it god who ra ped Mary and got her pregnant?

      February 20, 2013 at 11:58 am |
    • Roger that

      God doesn't have a problem with ra pe. How do I know this? The Bible tells me so.

      February 20, 2013 at 12:37 pm |
    • Mass Debater

      If it were a legitimate r a p e then the bible commands him to pay her father the bride price, so I guess that makes Christian fathers true pimps...

      February 20, 2013 at 2:24 pm |
    • Richard Cranium

      That would explain god sending the three wise men with gifts. He was paying for rap ing Mary...It all makes "sense" now.

      February 20, 2013 at 2:28 pm |
  15. derp

    Bwahahahah!

    God is so pathetic that he can't even stop a predator from using a christard dating site to find victims.

    February 20, 2013 at 11:13 am |
    • Richard Cranium

      "find god's rap!st for you!"

      February 20, 2013 at 11:33 am |
    • Mass Debater

      If he's not able to prevent his own Priests and Pastors from molesting young children in his own houses of worship then he either doesn't care, or doesn't exist.

      February 20, 2013 at 2:40 pm |
    • Saraswati

      @Mass Debater,

      Or he's not all-powerful.

      February 20, 2013 at 5:05 pm |
    • lol??

      Scripture twistin' will get you somewhere.

      February 20, 2013 at 5:33 pm |
    • lol??

      Four scripture twisters, right before your eyes, have a final destination. Notice how evangelical they are in their beliefs.

      February 20, 2013 at 5:35 pm |
    • lol??

      Bible bigots.

      February 20, 2013 at 5:36 pm |
  16. lol??

    Next thing ya know the A&A's will be screamin' for Affirmative Action inclusion for their fate. They have undeveloped bwains with con in the left side with no connections to the science in the right side. That's why they are disabled. Sociopathic psychopaths are like that with no conscience. John Wayne Gacy called his victims punks. Double-mindedness at it's core leaves a hurtin' culture.

    February 20, 2013 at 11:10 am |
    • Richard Cranium

      laugh out loud??
      You clearly haven't had your meds today. The voices in your head should have reminded you.

      February 20, 2013 at 11:17 am |
    • clarity

      lol??: "bwains with con in the left side"

      Here's the con, clueless. Early Christian apologists blaming the devil for their copy-cat gospel stories. "Oh, those are not copies; that's not plagiarism – the devil wrote the fake stories in advance". It is as if they were saying, "Don't look over there at that man behind the curtain, the great and powerful Oz is before you!" Laugh about that, idiot.

      February 20, 2013 at 12:22 pm |
    • lol??

      clarity, you don't know standard Christian doctrine......"Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." Spiritual talk between my adversary and the Most High. The war was on early in the history of the race. Now you're trained.

      February 20, 2013 at 3:05 pm |
    • clarity

      Now the idiot is going to quote from the most unfounded part of Gullible's Travels of all. Go figure.

      February 20, 2013 at 5:47 pm |
    • lol??

      Unfounded?? It was never lost in the first place. Bible bigot.

      February 20, 2013 at 6:30 pm |
  17. Doc Vestibule

    Since God won't heal amputees, we have to.
    Scientists in Switzerland have designed the fist bionic limb that can transmit sensory data directly to the brain.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/a-sensational-breakthrough-the-first-bionic-hand-that-can-feel-8498622.html

    Ain't science awesome?

    February 20, 2013 at 9:56 am |
    • Science

      Yes

      Peace

      February 20, 2013 at 10:07 am |
    • Richard Cranium

      Using stem cells, it will be possible to completely regenerate limbs, and pretty much any other part of the body. This technology will likely be available within my lifetime....that is if we can keep idiots like geaorge W. from setting us bak 10 years like he did when he was in office.

      Which would you rather...a bionic implant or a regenerated limb?

      February 20, 2013 at 10:12 am |
    • Poltergeist

      The implants that give you bionic powers in mass effect.

      February 20, 2013 at 10:56 am |
    • Science

      Yea Bush heard voices on stem cell research, that was not a good day

      Using stem cells and pig valves for transplant ,life saving science.

      Cool stuff.

      February 20, 2013 at 10:57 am |
    • lol??

      The docster sayz,
      "...........Ain't science awesome?"........... You can get off yer knees now.

      February 20, 2013 at 11:31 am |
    • lol??

      I discovered a new tool. I call it a flame thrower. Better bow down, doc. Ain't science wunnerful?? bigot.

      February 20, 2013 at 11:34 am |
    • ..

      ...and I see lol?? is still callinng the kettle black.

      February 20, 2013 at 11:38 am |
    • NClaw441

      The stem cells that have led to these accomplishments have been adult stem cells (vs. embryonic stem cells). Very little has been accomplished with embryonic stem cells.

      February 20, 2013 at 11:55 am |
    • Richard Cranium

      NCLaw

      Huge difference in adult stem cells, fetal, and embryonic.
      Check this out.
      http://www.policymic.com/articles/13582/why-we-need-embryonic-stem-cell-research

      February 20, 2013 at 12:15 pm |
  18. ReligionIsBS

    "Have you ever wondered who god's match for you is?" said the guy swindling morons out of cash.

    February 20, 2013 at 9:22 am |
    • sam stone

      Yeah, but what a gig.

      February 20, 2013 at 9:22 am |
  19. Science

    Creationists are predicable too.... also true.

    How Predictable Is Evolution?

    Feb. 19, 2013 — Understanding how and why diversification occurs is important for understanding why there are so many species on Earth. In a new study published on 19 February in the open access journal PLOS Biology, researchers show that similar – or even identical – mutations can occur during diversification in completely separate populations of E. coli evolving in different environments over more than 1000 generations. Evolution, therefore, can be surprisingly predictable.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/02/130219172155.htm

    February 20, 2013 at 8:18 am |
    • lol??

      The cons are usin' science, to mess with your conscience. See the sin in usin'??

      February 20, 2013 at 10:57 am |
    • WASP

      see the sin in "usin" while forgetin to add a G.

      see the sin in usin the bible?
      see the sin in usin the flu vaccine?

      XD ROFLMFAO

      February 20, 2013 at 1:30 pm |
    • lol??

      Sorry, can't remember when I had my last flu shot. Must have been a kid.

      February 21, 2013 at 11:56 am |
  20. Reality

    " Fools Awake!

    O fools, awake! The rites ye sacred hold

    Are but a cheat contrived by men of old

    Who lusted after wealth and gained their lust

    And died in baseness-and their law is dust."

    Al-Ma'arri

    February 20, 2013 at 7:35 am |
    • lol??

      Do another abortion for the commie god.

      February 20, 2013 at 7:42 am |
    • troll alert

      captain america = lol??

      February 20, 2013 at 9:03 am |
    • lol??

      pair a noids?? bigot.

      February 20, 2013 at 11:12 am |
    • ..

      What's tha matter, lol??, your boyfriend get arrested?

      February 20, 2013 at 11:41 am |
    • fintastic

      ??LOL = TROLL = IGNORE

      February 20, 2013 at 12:07 pm |
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