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Tim Tebow pulls out of speaking at Dallas church
February 21st, 2013
10:40 AM ET

Tim Tebow pulls out of speaking at Dallas church

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN) - NFL quarterback Tim Tebow has canceled an appearance at a controversial Dallas-area church. The outspoken Christian quarterback was scheduled to speak at First Baptist Church on April 28.

The church is led by Robert Jeffress, who has been widely criticized for views against homosexuality, Islam and Mormonism. Tebow, announcing his decision Thursday on Twitter, said that he was canceling his appearance “due to new information that has been brought to my attention.”

Tebow’s statement appeared over a series of four tweets on the social media site.

“I will continue to use the platform God has blessed me with to bring Faith, Hope and Love to all those needing a brighter day. Thank you for all of your love and support. God Bless!” he wrote to his Twitter followers.

Tebow was scheduled to speak at the 11,000-member Dallas church as part of a monthlong celebration of the megachurch’s completion of a new building campaign, a $130 million dollar project that encompasses five blocks of the downtown.

“Tim called me last night and explained to me that because of some things going on in his personal life and his career he needed to steer clear of controversy right now, but that at some other date he would like to come and speak at our church,” Jeffress told CNN by phone from Dallas.  “Tim has to do what Tim thinks is best for him right now.”

The First Baptist Church of Dallas is a member of the Southern Baptist Convention.  Jeffress, who has been in its pulpit since 2007, is no stranger to controversy.

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After introducing Texas Gov. Rick Perry at the Values Voter Summit in Washington in October 2011, Jeffress told reporters he believed Mormonism was a cult, expressing a personal position and one held by his denomination.  The move was seen as a particular slight to former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, a lifelong Mormon.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, while acknowledging sharp theological differences with the Southern Baptist Convention, bristles at the term cult and says it is inaccurate.

Jeffress has also drawn fire for his comments about homosexuality, Judiasm and Catholicism.

“This in no way is going to diminish what our church is teaching about salvation being available to all through faith in Jesus Christ,” Jeffress said.

Jeffress pointed out that Tebow is a member of the First Baptist Church in Jacksonville, Florida, a fellow SBC church.

“They certainly believe what we do, that salvation is through Christ alone, and about homosexuality.  Tim confirmed that to me last night, that they believe exactly what we do about homosexuality.”

Tebow and Jeffress differ dramatically in how they present their faith.  Tebow in talking about his faith has used much softer language, while Jeffress has no trouble going after less popular and culturally sensitive issues in Christianity.

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“I believe that homosexuality is a sin just like adultery is a sin, just like I believe premarital sex is a sin, because it’s a deviation from God’s standard,” Jeffress said.

“God’s plan for sex is that is should be between a man and a woman in a marriage relationship and any deviation from that is wrong.”

While he believes any sex outside a heterosexual marriage is wrong, he adds, “I never single out homosexuality as the only sin or the unpardonable sin. I think homosexuality, just like adultery, can be forgiven if we ask God for forgiveness.”

Jeffress said he thinks there is a genetic disposition toward homosexuality, a stance on sexual orientation taken by many theologically conservative Christians and one scorned as scientifically flawed by the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community.

Jeffress said he is sure there are gay members in his church.  “We don’t ask all the gay members to stand up, but I’m sure that there are people who are gay in our church simply because of the letters I have received,” he said.  “We have people who’ve committed adultery and who lie and who steal, but that doesn’t mean they’re not welcome to come to our church.”

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As for comments about Mormons, Jews and Catholics, he is quick to point out that he believes “no one goes to hell in a group.”

“I’m not the one who decides who goes to heaven and hell. God does that. God has already given us the criteria for what it takes to go to heaven when you die. Jesus said in John 14:6, ‘I am the way, the truth and the life, and no man comes to the father except through me.’  When I quote that verse I like to remind people that Jesus who said that was not a Southern Baptist evangelist but a Jewish rabbi. Yet as a Jewish rabbi he said there is one way to heaven, and that is through faith in me.”

The controversy surrounding Tebow’s appearance won’t dampen the church’s plans, Jeffress said. He said Tebow, while escaping the spotlight now over his beliefs, will continue to face controversy.

“I think Tim is going to discover that no matter how hard you try to hide from controversy, if you stand for the simple truths of the Bible, like faith in Christ, necessary for salvation, and sex (being acceptable only) between a man and a woman in marriage, you can't avoid controversy.  That’s something Tim needs to discover on his own.  We in no way want to impugn him.  He’s a great man of God who sincerely loves the Lord.”

- CNN Belief Blog

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soundoff (2,828 Responses)
  1. Honey Badger Dont Care

    Got a question for all of you thumpers out there. There is a place in the bible where it actually states that marriage is between ONE man and ONE woman. Where is it?

    February 22, 2013 at 9:16 am |
    • Live4Him

      Matthew 19:4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’ 6 So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.”
      The Holy Bible : New International Version. 1996, c1984 (electronic ed.) (Mt 19:4). Grand Rapids: Zondervan.

      February 22, 2013 at 1:01 pm |
    • Franklin

      Yet, many of the kings and other notable figures in Jewish history had multiple wives and concubines. Clearly the idea of one wife per man wasn't a part of Jewish culture from the very start.

      February 22, 2013 at 3:48 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      That passage doesn't say that marriage cannot be anything other than a man and a woman.

      February 23, 2013 at 9:44 pm |
  2. Honey Badger Dont Care

    Translation: money is more important than his faith.

    February 22, 2013 at 9:15 am |
  3. John

    A warm hello to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and a big thank you to Jesus for dying for others sins.

    February 22, 2013 at 7:56 am |
    • Terry

      Why did your omnipotent being need to have something to die to save a life? Methinks you're fibbing.

      February 22, 2013 at 8:47 am |
    • sam stone

      A warm "fvck off" to your petty, vindictive pr1ck god for setting up a system for his own glorification

      February 22, 2013 at 9:05 am |
    • truth be trolled

      A warm hello to the one and only TRUE GOD, the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Thank you to His Noodlyness for being boiled for our sins.

      February 22, 2013 at 9:11 am |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      R'amen!!

      February 22, 2013 at 9:18 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      My condolences to your God of Abraham etc. on the death of his son. Did it work?

      February 22, 2013 at 9:18 am |
    • Barry McKockner

      A God of 3 people? Narrow road indeed.

      February 22, 2013 at 9:24 am |
    • John

      You people don't understand. When God told Noah to build the boat and get ready for the rain, he was serious, it's not a joke. So when they started claiming spaghetti and noodles could save them... I don't think so. Your dinner won't save you.

      February 22, 2013 at 9:28 am |
    • truth be trolled

      My dinner will "save me" from my hunger. At least my dinner is real =)

      February 22, 2013 at 9:30 am |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      The penne shall set you free!

      (Officially ordained minister of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster since 2009)

      February 22, 2013 at 9:43 am |
    • Franklin

      John
      I have only the greatest appreciation for all of our military, police officers and firefighters who lost their lives protecting us, but I just don't understand how Jesus' death really benefitted anyone. Sorry, but that whole redemption from original sin just doesn't make any sense. Any way you cut it it is we alone who are responsible for the consequences of our actions.

      February 22, 2013 at 9:54 am |
    • Scot

      God sacrificed himself, to himself, to appease himself, to change a rule that he made in the first place. LMAO

      February 22, 2013 at 10:19 am |
    • John

      Scot, it's very similar to Joseph being thrown in the pit, sold to slave traders, and eventually saving them from the famine, by helping Pharaoh to stock up on grain during the 7 years of plenty. In that case, it was them being saved physically. With Jesus, it's a spiritual saving.

      February 22, 2013 at 6:01 pm |
    • LOL!

      Scot,

      John didn't get it.

      February 22, 2013 at 6:05 pm |
    • End Religion

      John doesn't get much of anything.

      February 22, 2013 at 6:25 pm |
  4. Reality

    Only for the new members of this blog:-->>>>>

    "Tebow was scheduled to speak at the 11,000-member Dallas church as part of a monthlong celebration of the megachurch’s completion of a new building campaign, a $130 million dollar project that encompasses five blocks of the downtown."

    Talk about a waste of money!!!

    Now let us put that money to good use:

    In order to pay down OUR $16 trillion debt, we need to redirect money used to support/control religions especially the christian and islamic cons and put it towards paying off our debt.

    To wit:

    Redirecting our funds and saving a lot of "souls" in the process:

    Saving 1.5 billion lost Muslims:
    There never were and never will be any angels i.e. no Gabriel, no Islam and therefore no more koranic-driven acts of horror and terror LIKE 9/11.

    – One trillion dollars over the next several years as the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan will end.

    – Eighteen billion dollars/yr to Pakistan will stop.

    – Four billion dollars/yr to Egypt will end.

    Saving 2 billion lost Christians including the Mormons:
    There were never any bodily resurrections and there will never be any bodily resurrections i.e. No Easter, no Christianity!!!

    – The Mormon t-ithe empire will now become taxable as will all Christian "religions" and evangelical non-profits since there is no longer any claim to being a tax-exempt religion. (~$100 billion was donated to various religious groups in 2011)

    – the faith-based federal projects supported by both Bush and Obama will be eliminated saving $385 million/yr and another $2 billion/yr in grants.

    – Saving 15.5 million Orthodox followers of Judaism:
    Abraham and Moses never existed.

    – Four billion dollars/yr to Israel saved.

    – All Jewish sects and non-profits will no longer be tax exempt.

    Now all we need to do is convince these 3.5+ billion global and local citizens that they have been conned all these centuries Time for a YouTube,Twitter and FaceBook campaign!!!!

    (Added information: "In 2010, according to the Urban Inst-itute’s publication, The Nonprofit Sector in Brief, the total expenses of all reporting public charities – public charities required to file Form 990s with the IRS – totaled nearly $1.45 trillion. Total revenues were estimated at $1.51 trillion.[15])"

    February 22, 2013 at 7:42 am |
    • midwest rail

      Yeah, I'm sure the "new members" here are flocking to the longest post on the board to partake of the wisdom contained there. You know the post I mean, the one that's been posted over...and over...and over...

      February 22, 2013 at 7:46 am |
    • John

      Reality, you are just making stuff up left and right. There are angels, Jacob struggled with one and met others. Jesus and the apostles met angels too, as did others. Moses and Abraham are in recorded historical accounts. God exists. God made the universe, and Jesus died for others sins. You need to get the truth and post that instead.

      February 22, 2013 at 7:52 am |
    • NClaw441

      Reality: The money given to the church was given by individuals out of money that they earned. It was not coerced. And it is not yours or government's to take.

      February 22, 2013 at 8:25 am |
    • Franklin

      John
      At least with Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster there are some fuzzy photographs, videos, hair samples and the like. What have you got for angels and God? Anyone can just as easily argue that the Happy Hunting Ground, Nirvana and reincarnation are real. Anything could be real as long as you aren't interested in having evidence that they are.

      February 22, 2013 at 10:01 am |
    • Reality

      AND THE INFAMOUS ANGELIC CONS CONTINUE TO WREAK STUPIDITY UPON THE WORLD

      Joe Smith had his Moroni. (As does M. Romney)

      "Latter-day Saints like M. Romney also believe that Michael the Archangel was Adam (the first man) when he was mortal, and Gabriel lived on the earth as Noah."

      Jehovah Witnesses have their Jesus /Michael the archangel, the first angelic being created by God;

      Mohammed had his Gabriel (this "tin-kerbell" got around).

      Jesus and his family had/has Michael, Gabriel, and Satan, the latter being a modern day demon of the demented. (As does BO and his family)(As do Biden and Ryan)

      The Abraham-Moses myths had their Angel of Death and other "no-namers" to do their dirty work or other assorted duties.

      Contemporary biblical and religious scholars have relegated these "pretty wingie/horn-blowing thingies" to the myth pile. We should do the same to include deleting all references to them in our religious operating manuals. Doing this will eliminate the prophet/profit/prophecy status of these founders and put them where they belong as simple humans just like the rest of us.

      Some added references to "tink-erbells".

      newadvent.org/cathen/07049c.htm

      "The belief in guardian angels can be traced throughout all antiquity; pagans, like Menander and Plutarch (cf. Euseb., "Praep. Evang.", xii), and Neo-Platonists, like Plotinus, held it. It was also the belief of the Babylonians and As-syrians, as their monuments testify, for a figure of a guardian angel now in the British Museum once decorated an As-syrian palace, and might well serve for a modern representation; while Nabopolassar, father of Nebuchadnezzar the Great, says: "He (Marduk) sent a tutelary deity (cherub) of grace to go at my side; in everything that I did, he made my work to succeed."
      Catholic monks and Dark Age theologians also did their share of hallu-cinating:

      "TUBUAS-A member of the group of angels who were removed from the ranks of officially recognized celestial hierarchy in 745 by a council in Rome under Pope Zachary. He was joined by Uriel, Adimus, Sabaoth, Simiel, and Raguel."

      And tin-ker- bells go way, way back:

      "In Zoroastrianism there are different angel like creatures. For example each person has a guardian angel called Fravashi. They patronize human being and other creatures and also manifest god’s energy. Also, the Amesha Spentas have often been regarded as angels, but they don't convey messages, but are rather emanations of Ahura Mazda ("Wise Lord", God); they appear in an abstract fashion in the religious thought of Zarathustra and then later (during the Achaemenid period of Zoroastrianism) became personalized, associated with an aspect of the divine creation (fire, plants, water...)."

      "The beginnings of the biblical belief in angels must be sought in very early folklore. The gods of the Hitti-tes and Canaanites had their supernatural messengers, and parallels to the Old Testament stories of angels are found in Near Eastern literature. "

      "The 'Magic Papyri' contain many spells to secure just such help and protection of angels. From magic traditions arose the concept of the guardian angel. "

      For added information see the review at:

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel

      February 22, 2013 at 11:45 am |
    • Reality

      As good students, you have read the reiterations of the "fems" (flaws, errors, muck and stench) of religion. Therefore the seeds have been planted in rich soil. Go therefore and preach the truth to all nations, reiterating as you go amongst the lost, bred, born and brainwashed souls of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism as Rational Thinking makes its triumphant return all because of you!!!!

      February 22, 2013 at 11:47 am |
  5. coachw44

    I've always found it interesting how those who believe in nothing always tend to yell the loudest. It's interesting to watch those so conflicted with godlessness try to convince others (themselves) that they came from nothing, they will be nothing so if it feels good do it. I mean, we are all hear by freak accident right? Nothing came together and exploded, made everything. It makes sense if you don’t think about it. Then things that died told things that are living to change. It's exciting that we teach that in school. I mean, I know they make us call it "theory" but luckily for us we can still teach the theory as fact. I'm definitely with you guys on this one! What good would it do anyone to believe that they were made special, with a purpose in God's image? What good would it do anyone to know they had a creator who loved them and desired to increase them? I mean seriously, if you believe that you might have hope. You might love others and yourself. But the downside is a few dumb people would always end up making your beliefs look bad. And you know we have to lump everyone in bad and good. And then there is the fact that there are those moral standards. Who wants to feel like their body isn't really their own? Who wants to believe that perversions are wrong? Certainly not me! I want to feel good about saving a baby seal and murdering children I don't want. These silly Christians, ones who sin like everyone else but get on their knees and thank Jesus for dying on a cross for them. Come on? This world is perfect? who needs saved?

    February 22, 2013 at 7:14 am |
    • Reality

      o Think infinity and recycling with the Big Bang expansion followed by the shrinking reversal called the Gib Gnab and recycling back to the Big Bang repeating the process on and on forever. Human life and Earth are simply a minute part of this cha-otic, sto-cha-stic, expanding, shrinking process disappearing in five billion years with the burn out of the Sun and maybe returning in another five billion years with different life forms but still subject to the va-ga-ries of its local star.

      February 22, 2013 at 7:44 am |
    • Chikkipop

      Hilarious!

      We could use this comment for one of those "Can you count all the mistakes?" games.

      February 22, 2013 at 7:45 am |
    • Primewonk

      coach wrote, "Nothing came together and exploded, made everything. It makes sense if you don’t think about it. Then things that died told things that are living to change. It's exciting that we teach that in school. I mean, I know they make us call it "theory" but luckily for us we can still teach the theory as fact."

      I'm going to go ahead and call you a fucking liar. This isn't simply a mistake, or wrong. We teach actual science in school. Additionally, the previous bajillion times you cretins have posted these lies, we have corrected you. You have purposefully posted these lies, yet again.

      What possible purpose is there for repeatedly lying in the name of your god? Does it please him to watch you dumbshits lie like this?

      February 22, 2013 at 8:13 am |
    • John

      PW, your "nothing" god never made anything. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, made all of it, the entire universe. What science is doing is taking credit for God's creation and giving it to the "nothing" god, the "creature" god, the "environment" god, the "ocean" god, the "river" god, the "forest" god, and others... it's massive numbers of false gods that do NOTHING... just because they say it's the truth... but it's not, it's their lie. One of the heads of science is soon to find out, that they were wrong, and God was right. What will they do? Where can you hide, from God? He knows it all, all history, start to finish, all people that lived, past, present and future, birth to death... it's sad that so many never find God, because someone lied to them, and others passed it on.

      February 22, 2013 at 8:44 am |
    • Saraswati

      Who in the last 30 years said "If it feels good do it?" Sounds like something you pulled out of the propaganda on a church flier.

      February 22, 2013 at 8:55 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      The belief that Humans are the predilect objects of Creation as made by an omnipotent, omniscient, anthropomorphic, anthropocentric God may be comforting to some, but it is highly unlikely.
      Is not the idea that the entire Universe exists as it does simply to have US in it the greatest conceit you've ever heard?
      Furthermore, you diatribe implies that without supernatural rewards/punishments that people will have no morals is pure bunk. All throughout history, there have been countless cultures who never heard, or didn't care about Jahweh that got along just fine. In the modern world, the most successful, least violent, most highly educated societies with the highest happiness indexes are largely irreligious.
      Ethics/Morals are contracts made by humans and for humans to enable us to work cooperatively. Some people seem to need a God sized stick to beat the selfishness out of them with promises of posthumous eternal bliss or torment. I would argue that those who require such incentives are less moral than those who do good for others simply becuase they wish to help their community.

      February 22, 2013 at 9:07 am |
    • Logic led me to atheism

      @ John
      Do you realize that nothing you say is based on fact save for one? That one “fact” is simply that what you say makes you “feel good”. There is no evidence or facts to back up ANYTHING you say in these posts but it makes “John” feel good and that’s good enough for him. It’s disgusting that you and those of your ilk don’t demand more of yourself. You are not taken seriously by anyone.

      February 22, 2013 at 9:44 am |
    • Saraswati

      There are dozens of TV stations and hundreds of shows dedicated to promoting Christianity. How many TV shows, churches, TV channels do you have in your town promoting atheism?

      February 22, 2013 at 9:48 am |
  6. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    February 22, 2013 at 7:13 am |
    • nope

      nope

      February 22, 2013 at 9:52 am |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!`.

      February 22, 2013 at 10:45 am |
    • According to the bible prayer cannot change things

      If god's supreme plan rules in the heavens then prayer is useless. If you pray for something that's not in the plan it won't happen, no matter how hard you pray. And if you pray for something in the plan, it would have happened anyway even without your prayer.

      If god gives us free will then no matter how hard you pray god refuses to do anything, like not doing anything for the 6m Jews because that would interfere with Hitler’s free will

      February 22, 2013 at 2:26 pm |
  7. crabman

    smart move on his part

    February 22, 2013 at 7:03 am |
  8. ?RES

    Since when does quoting scripture and believing what is written in the Bible become – "controversial". It used to be the standard are country was built upon!

    February 22, 2013 at 6:39 am |
    • John

      God is still the standard, he is still perfection and we all need to try harder to be better people. That is only controversial in the minds of those that rebel against him.

      February 22, 2013 at 6:58 am |
    • JWT

      I'll agree that we all need to be better people but a belief in any of the thousands of equal gods is not necessary for anything better in life.

      February 22, 2013 at 7:04 am |
    • red26@me.com

      Wrong. Try again. If you remember this Country was actually founded for Freedom of ALL expression of Religion and Religious tolerance. So this nitwits Editorial about how Mormonism is a Cult is the Pot calling the kettle Black. They are ALL literally Cults.
      And NO the Founding Fathers were no ALL Christian either either. Some were but mainly they were Theists. They believed in what the Bible basics taught like "do unto others" and "respect thy neighbor" but not that the Bible was actual fact or the word of God.
      How do people NOT know their History? Paul Revier was one of the few Hard Core Christians. Washington was a Christian BUT was adamantly against Church in State "personal choice". Franklin, Thomas, etc., were ALL anti organized Religion and were Scientists and Scholars. It is amazing how people still believe this. I mean these people actually wrote their beliefs down. It is published works. Pick up a Book.
      And people still believe Columbus discovered America! LOL I guess the Native Americans were never turned around, LOL! People find it hard to believe we landed on the Moon or that 911 was Terrorists but the Bible is 100% fact!
      If anyone can explain how Noah could get to Arizona and pick up two Diamondback Rattlesnakes, then to Australia for a Platypus and then to the Rainforest for Gorillas and back to the Middle East before a World wide flood, then talk to me as Bible as FACT! Remember, It is either all fact or not! People say proof of God is that were are here. Well, who made God? How is he here? By your definition, he could not exist. Just point out some flaws there.

      February 22, 2013 at 7:09 am |
    • John

      God is the best, no one better to know at any time in one's life.

      February 22, 2013 at 7:17 am |
    • John

      Red26, calm down, the flood was local, much like Lot was leaving a local city, not the entire world... same for Eden, a local wilderness area that God created Adam and Eve in, a place called Eden.

      February 22, 2013 at 7:25 am |
    • Primewonk

      John wrote, "calm down, the flood was local"

      So when your god repeatedly said he flooded the entire earth, and killed every living thing not on the boat, was he lying? Or was he wrong?

      Either way, it means he isn't much of a god.

      February 22, 2013 at 8:18 am |
    • John

      The translators putting the text to english, did the best they could at the time. The source is fine... local land being flooded... local animials being saved... and the people that loved God.

      February 22, 2013 at 8:25 am |
    • Bob

      Sad to see John still trying to sell himself and others on his disgusting evil sky fairy story. So, John, you wimp and con artist, let's see, your ass hole of a god of your tales wiped out almost all the creatures on the planet due to the actions of a few creatures that he created, and threatens us with eternal torture for things done wrong in a short mortal life such as not worshiping his supreme ego...

      No thanks. You can keep your violent, murderous jerk of a god of your Christian myths. To yourself. Silently, and without more of your idiotic posts, please.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains.
      Be free of Christianity and other supersti-tions.
      http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

      February 22, 2013 at 8:30 am |
    • NClaw441

      JWT, your statements assume that your belief is the right one. That makes sense–for you. But your saying it does not make it true. Admittedly, my saying that I believe in God and the divinity of and salvation through Jesus Christ does not make THAT true either. It is either true or it is not.

      I cannot change what I believe (and I pray that God helps me maintain my faith) and you cannot change what you believe simply by "choosing." It is something that goes on at a deeper level than that. What we believe is the result of life experiences, personal search and introspection, and, I believe, a gift of God. Each of us owes himself that search and introspection, and perhaps even a quiet prayer along the lines of "God, if you are there, let me feel and know that you exist." Once the threshold of belief in God is crossed one can move on from there. We always have to acknowledge that our beliefs are based on faith–whether we believe God exists or not, and what He is like.

      February 22, 2013 at 8:37 am |
    • John

      Bob, over all history, God has given the breath of life, and he's also taken it away. What is new or different about that in a local flood where some were warned ahead of time, to build a boat while being laughed at, and float away when the rains came?

      February 22, 2013 at 8:53 am |
    • Saraswati

      Slavery and prosecuting witches were once the standard on which this country was built. Nice to know we grow and learn as a species. Democracy grew out of a polytheistic clave culture too. Heck, medical science’s best treatments were once leaching and drilling holes in the head. People want to turn back the clock where it suits them and when they are too lazy to grow and change.

      February 22, 2013 at 8:59 am |
    • sam stone

      John: You are delusional. Seek help

      February 22, 2013 at 9:08 am |
    • JWT

      Of course I believe I am right and in terms of myself I am perfectly correct. I have no need to search for your god or any god. No gods are necessary or exist,.

      February 22, 2013 at 9:20 am |
    • John's Psychiatrist

      John's ramblings are that of a man suffering from severe delusions...please disregard him.

      February 22, 2013 at 9:53 am |
  9. BobMelbourneFlorida

    As I have said previously ..... "religion will be the downfall of humanity someday"

    February 22, 2013 at 6:30 am |
    • John

      Souls that know God, will weigh more than souls that know nothing.

      February 22, 2013 at 8:32 am |
    • John's Psychiatrist

      John's ramblings are that of a man suffering from severe delusions...please disregard him.

      February 22, 2013 at 9:54 am |
    • Nancy

      Actually, sin will be our down fall. It has increased greatly since creationism has stopped being taught in school, prayer has been outlawed, unborn children are being murdered and the Bible is no longer considered our guide book for life. when the majority still believed that Christianity was the strength of our country , we had hope , we no longer have that hope. Parents no longer teach the Bible in the home (the majority of parents) and our children know nothing about living a righteous life. They now live for the moment, caring not what happens to them after they leave this world. It is clearly described in the Bible and the many, many manuscripts that have been found that confirms what the Bible teaches. Why would our time line be called BC(before Christ) and AD ( in the year of our Lord) if this was not true This was devised in the year 525 AD.This still holds true after 2 thousand years.Why would we still be using that today if not true? People have become selfish and self centered and want to live the way we want disregarding the teachings of Jesus. Even if it wasn't true, why wouldn't people want to live a life that was clean or that showed kindness to your neighbor or avoids violence?

      February 22, 2013 at 10:10 am |
    • Saraswati (original)

      @Nancy,

      "prayer has been outlawed"?????

      Please, do provide a link to the law that outlaws prayer.

      February 22, 2013 at 10:15 am |
    • LinCA

      @Nancy

      The delusion is strong in you, isn't it?

      You said, "Actually, sin will be our down fall."
      If you are so worried about sin, maybe you shouldn't. Atheists don't sin. Maybe you should follow their lead.

      You said, "It has increased greatly since creationism has stopped being taught in school"
      Creationism belongs in schools just as much as teaching how the Easter Bunny lays eggs belongs in school, because it is just as true and relevant.

      You said, "prayer has been outlawed"
      You are free to talk to your imaginary friend. Nobody prohibits you from doing so. You just don't get to force other people's kids to do the same.

      You said, "unborn children are being murdered"
      Most abortions in the US are had by christian women. Maybe you should do a better job of preaching to the members of your cult.

      You said, "and the Bible is no longer considered our guide book for life"
      The earth is also no longer thought to be flat, nor the center of the universe. Smoking is no longer advertised as healthy. Most homes have indoor plumbing.

      If better knowledge comes along, outdated stuff gets relegated to the dustbin.

      You said, "when the majority still believed that Christianity was the strength of our country , we had hope , we no longer have that hope."
      We have hope. We have hope that more people shed their infantile beliefs and base their decisions on facts and evidence. We hope that we can eventually join the civilized nations in the 20th century (the 21st seems like a pipe dream). We have hope we can root out the ignorance, and the silly religions based on it.

      You said, "Parents no longer teach the Bible in the home"
      See above. Progress is made. It's made in baby steps, but it's progress nonetheless.

      You said, "They now live for the moment, caring not what happens to them after they leave this world."
      Neither do you. Odds are, we simply cease to exist.

      You said, "It is clearly described in the Bible and the many, many manuscripts that have been found that confirms what the Bible teaches."
      Bullshit. There is no evidence for your imaginary friend. None. Without evidence for your god, there is no reason to assume anything in your bible is true. Your precious fairy tale holds no more value as a guide for life, or what happens afterward, than the Harry Potter series.

      You said, "Why would our time line be called BC(before Christ) and AD ( in the year of our Lord) if this was not true This was devised in the year 525 AD."
      It was devised by the ruling religion. It was devised with an agenda. That we stuck with it is simply a matter of convenience. If you prefer, you can use CE and BCE, instead.

      You said, "This still holds true after 2 thousand years."
      Math wasn't your strongest subject, was it? First you said that it was devised in 525 and now you claim it to have hold true for 2000 years. That we've stuck with it for less than 1500 is simply a matter of convenience ad the fact that the stranglehold of religion is only recently been declining. Who know, maybe in another 50 years or so, we'll do away with it completely. Wouldn't that be great?

      You said, "Why would we still be using that today if not true?"
      Because have a calendar has shown to be advantageous. How we number the years is irrelevant. All that matters is that everyone uses the same calendar (or knows how to convert between them).

      But I have a question for you (multiple, actually). If the calendar is evidence of your god, how come we still use the Roman names for the months? Why do we worship Julius and Augustus? Why are September, November and December still indicating the 7th, 8th and 10th month? Why do we worship Norse gods in the days of the week?

      February 22, 2013 at 11:06 am |
  10. dmx01

    Christianity is a cult of Judaism.

    February 22, 2013 at 6:28 am |
    • NClaw441

      If Christianity is a cult, it has held up pretty well over a couple thousand years...

      February 22, 2013 at 8:54 am |
  11. Dennis

    MOST PEOPLE ARE TOO SIMPLE MINDED
    to see or understand that the BIBLE IS COMING TRUE
    all you have to do is read the book, and look at the news
    HOWEVER, WE WILL ALL SEE WHO HAS THE LAST LAUGH

    February 22, 2013 at 6:22 am |
    • midwest rail

      If your first instinct is to laugh at the "condemned", you can be pretty sure you've made God in your image.

      February 22, 2013 at 6:23 am |
    • midwest rail

      Really, though, very well done, Dennis. Your comment highlights the 3 main attributes of contemporary Christianity – arrogance, condescension, and hatred. Good job.

      February 22, 2013 at 6:29 am |
    • red26@me.com

      They have been saying the World is ending for a thousand years! It is funny how the only prophecies that are somewhat right are the ones that were originally marked as a work of Satan by the Church.

      February 22, 2013 at 7:11 am |
    • sick of christian phonies

      I'm quite surprised that you were able to compose a simple sentence and actually spell the words correctly. That is a rare trait among the people of faith that post on this site.
      Unfortunately, that doesn't indicate any real intelligence.

      February 22, 2013 at 7:12 am |
    • Frank

      Thats right Dennis.

      February 22, 2013 at 7:25 am |
    • HotAirAce

      Dennis, fuck off, you idiot!

      February 22, 2013 at 7:33 am |
    • Saraswati

      Simple-minded is wanting all your answers served up to you in a single book when understanding the world takes a lifetime of study and observation.

      February 22, 2013 at 9:00 am |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      Dennis is too gullible to understand that following that book is nothing but a grand delusion.

      February 22, 2013 at 9:07 am |
    • sam stone

      back on your knees, slaveboy

      February 22, 2013 at 9:12 am |
    • johnsullivanmusic

      Really? Yea I would hate to be trapped in heaven for eternity with the likes of you

      February 23, 2013 at 9:41 pm |
  12. Dennis

    GOOD JOB PASTOR
    keep standing for truth
    don't back down one bit
    you are one of very few not afraid to declare THE WORD OF GOD

    February 22, 2013 at 6:14 am |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      The word of man Dennis, not the word of your imaginary friend!

      February 22, 2013 at 9:09 am |
    • sam stone

      dennis: does posting your drivel in caps make it any less drivel?

      February 22, 2013 at 9:15 am |
  13. Chedar

    Any faith base religion is s cult.

    February 22, 2013 at 5:45 am |
    • mycomment

      Amen ;)

      February 22, 2013 at 5:54 am |
    • John

      Blessed is he who believes without seeing, and understands. And when you know the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob exists, tell others so they can believe. God sent Jesus to die for others sins. It is a wonderful thing that people can be reminded of him occasionally during a game... or any during the day.

      February 22, 2013 at 6:00 am |
    • red26@me.com

      The name Jesu Christ back then was like Jim Smith today. It was the most common name back then. They had a Jesus Christ on every corner but no one talks about that. 666 was the sign of Nero a Roman Cesar. He was also a brutal dictator. He was so bad they turned him into the boogyman for kids. Later Religious zealots used it for their own purpose to control people and get them afraid and doing what they wanted. Every Church has 5 others below it. Every Religion is based on and takes pieces of past Religions. It is just the way it is. There is no ONE true religion or ONE true word. Try playing post office with your friends. I guarantee you won't here the same story. Back then there was not any way of communication other than by mouth.
      It is OK to believe that there is something after death but that doesn't mean you have to believe in an organized Religion as fact. Now the so called tax free churches are giving financial advise. Marital advise and other advice that they should not. They are trying to get into every facet of peoples lives. Then they pass the plate for MONEY! The Vatican Bank is one of the largest in the World. If Religion was all about helping then how can a minister or Church be worth 100 Million Dollars. Tell me why they need a Football Stadium to preach. What happened to the Soap Box? Give me a Church that doesn't ask for Money and I will show you Faith.

      February 22, 2013 at 7:22 am |
    • red26@me.com

      The name Jesus Christ back then was like Jim Smith today. It was the most common name back then. They had a Jesus Christ on every corner but no one talks about that. 666 was the sign of Nero a Roman Cesar. He was also a brutal dictator. He was so bad they turned him into the boogyman for kids. Later Religious zealots used it for their own purpose to control people and get them afraid and doing what they wanted. Every Church has 5 others below it. Every Religion is based on and takes pieces of past Religions. It is just the way it is. There is no ONE true religion or ONE true word. Try playing post office with your friends. I guarantee you won't here the same story. Back then there was not any way of communication other than by mouth.
      It is OK to believe that there is something after death but that doesn't mean you have to believe in an organized Religion as fact. Now the so called tax free churches are giving financial advise. Marital advise and other advice that they should not. They are trying to get into every facet of peoples lives. Then they pass the plate for MONEY! The Vatican Bank is one of the largest in the World. If Religion was all about helping then how can a minister or Church be worth 100 Million Dollars. Tell me why they need a Football Stadium to preach. What happened to the Soap Box? Give me a Church that doesn't ask for Money and I will show you Faith.

      February 22, 2013 at 7:22 am |
    • John

      Red26, the ONLY God there is is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and he sent his son Jesus to die for other's sins. If people want to build a building to worship God in, what ever, but that doesn't lock him into that building. The word of God is what people need, either get a bible and read it and/or go where it's preached... that is what's important, not bricks and such.

      February 22, 2013 at 7:39 am |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      "the ONLY God there is is the God"

      How do you know your imaginary friend is the only one? Every system of belief thinks the same thing and not one of you has been proven to be right yet and it is highly unlikely you ever will be. Please put down the giant book of multiple delusions and reside in this century.

      February 22, 2013 at 9:12 am |
    • sam stone

      "Blessed is he who believes without seeing"

      No, John, delusional is he who believes without seeing

      February 22, 2013 at 9:22 am |
    • Franklin

      Truth Prevails :-)
      How would God even know if he's the only God, or even if he didn't have a creator? He might think that he's all-knowing, but how could he possibly KNOW that for certain?

      February 22, 2013 at 10:32 am |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      Franklin: I was replying to John's rant and given the numerous gods that existed before his did, I want to know how he's so sure he's following the ONLY god but he did answer it later by stating the others are mythology-much like the one he believes in.

      February 22, 2013 at 12:54 pm |
  14. Science

    he END IS and HERE !!! No god(s) required .

    A War Without End, With Earth's Carbon Cycle Held in the Balance

    Feb. 13, 2013 — The greatest battle in Earth's history has been going on for hundreds of millions of years – it isn't over yet – and until now no one knew it existed, scientists reported Feb. 13 in the journal Nature.

    Peace
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/02/130213132323.htm

    February 22, 2013 at 3:50 am |
    • Doug

      The end might be near for you, but once you crazies are gone this will be one rockin planet.. Go onto your private planet.. is it called goloob ? have fun there if you will.. Bye bye !

      February 22, 2013 at 4:30 am |
    • Science

      Science

      Separation of church and state

      New science standards created by 26 states (majority) for 2013 and beyond,, .. It is called Stem standards for public schools....

      No god(s) required
      By the way creatoin/ID LOST DEPUNKED at the Dover trial in 2005

      Peace

      No god(s) required for graduation n the US

      February 22, 2013 at 4:42 am |
    • Science

      Doug

      Not going anywhere we have been here a lot longer than the BIBLE !!!

      Fossil find is oldest European yet
      !,2 million years old
      http://www.nature.com/news/2008/080326/full/news.2008.691.html

      Fossil record also works ! Facts

      Peace

      February 22, 2013 at 4:51 am |
    • Science

      Cool stuff Doug NO god(s) required !!!

      NASA | Fiery Looping Rain on the Sun

      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFT7ATLQQx8&w=640&h=390]

      February 22, 2013 at 5:02 am |
    • John

      S, handing credit for God's creation, to your "nothing" god, will not be getting you any points with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob... the only God there is. I'm telling you God exists, for real, no joke, really there. If you don't believe me, believe all the eye witnesses recorded in the bible... and they aren't the only ones, nor are those the only times God has made himself known over all time. God is all powerful, he knows the end from the beginning, he knows what I'm typing now and knew it 2000 years ago when he said the sun would become like black sackcloth of hair... which it did. Time is ticking... figure it out.

      February 22, 2013 at 6:12 am |
    • HotAirAce

      John is a well known, delusional (mentally ill) liar. He has made these and other claims many times and has yet to provide any support at all.

      February 22, 2013 at 7:29 am |
    • John

      The bible says "the sun became black as sackcloth of hair", yes, it did:
      http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sunearth/news/gallery/hic-cover1.html

      February 22, 2013 at 7:43 am |
    • Science

      John

      Creation/ID has been Debunked at the Dover Trial .

      Sun will burn for billions of years

      Peace

      February 22, 2013 at 8:51 am |
    • John's Psychiatrist

      John is not mentally well and suffers from delusions...please ignore his mental retardation ramblings!

      February 22, 2013 at 9:14 am |
    • John

      S, you have no idea what God is capable of, nor how much patience he has in waiting for people to figure it out. But if you put your trust in "nothing", that is what you'll be left with. I know God exists, it is impossible for you to convince me otherwise. Meanwhile, you are guessing that he's not there... but he is.

      February 22, 2013 at 9:19 am |
    • Science

      No ghost John Man Made

      Creationist are you the generated ghost this new device has created ?

      Engineering 'Ghost' Objects: Breakthrough in Scattering Illusion

      Feb. 19, 2013 — A team at the NUS Department of Electrical & Computer Engineering led by Dr Qiu Cheng-Wei has come out with an optical device to "engineer" ghosts.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/02/130219090643.htm

      Peace

      February 22, 2013 at 9:29 am |
    • John

      S, that requires a meta material in front of the viewer. God doesn't need any of that to do visions and dreams as described in the bible.

      February 22, 2013 at 9:46 am |
    • John's Psychiatrist

      John's ramblings are that of a man suffering from severe delusions...please disregard him.

      February 22, 2013 at 9:55 am |
    • Franklin

      John
      And Ishmael speaks as an eyewitness to events in Moby-Dick, but that doesn't mean that we should trust his testimony, right? Pick any John Grisham book and you'll read about supposed "eyewitness" accounts. Just because something is labeled as an eyewitness account in a book doesn't make it reliable, does it?

      February 22, 2013 at 10:15 am |
  15. Kona

    Welcome to Texas, Timmy! Home of ignorant zealots! Well, that home is pretty much the entire South.

    February 22, 2013 at 3:33 am |
    • Elizbeth

      You're judgmental. But southerners have a firm and grounded believe in God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the sweet Holy Spirit. I feel sorry for you.

      February 22, 2013 at 7:21 am |
    • sam stone

      elizbeth: they also have the highest poverty rates, the highest teen pregnancy rates, the highest obesity rates, the lowest education and the lowest per capita income. and you feel sorry for US?

      February 22, 2013 at 9:27 am |
    • Franklin

      "The happiest and saddest states according to Twitter" is an article here on CNN and it concludes that most of the unhappiest states in the union are deep in the Bible Belt. Part of that reasoning has to do with the heavy use of swearing from Twitter users down there. Good to know that the churches are making such a big difference in people.

      February 22, 2013 at 10:22 am |
  16. Nordenfeldt

    What is repulsive here is not the opinions of Robert Jeffress. Well, those are repulsive, but they are just opinions, and everyone is allowed opinions, no matter how ignorant or wrongheaded those opinions might be.

    What is repulsive here is that, in the name of Jesus, Robert Jeffress just spent 130 million dollars on a new megachurch.

    I wonder how many starving, dying children UNICEF could have saved for 130 million dollars? I wonder how many vaccinations could have been handed out for 130 million dollars? I wonder how many homeless people could have been given shelter or a cup of soup for 130 million dollars?

    February 22, 2013 at 2:55 am |
    • Scott

      Since we're casting stones. How many homeless people did you help out of the cold, or feed, or clothe? See not much fun is it when people pile on. That's why Christ said Judge not lest ye be! You don't know the man or who he helps with his church and money. Maybe do a little research first before you pick up that rock. better yet just drop that rock and walk away because we are all guilty of sin.

      February 22, 2013 at 3:40 am |
    • xusmcvet

      I couldn't agree more. Hypocrisy at its finest!

      February 22, 2013 at 4:48 am |
    • Sane Person

      Thats Religion INC. for you. For the promise of salvation, people are willing to pay a few bucks and listen to some old guy tell them that everyone ELSE is going to hell.

      February 22, 2013 at 5:12 am |
    • addison

      Nordenfelt... just where do you think the money went to buld the church? I do not believe in God but I do believe in facts. Every dollar spent went to feed kids and their parents etc. Carpenters, brick layers, craftsman of all sorts, and those who worked in the factories to make windows and doors and tile and all. Do people like you even think before you type? Or perhaps you think all those people who got paid those dollars to build this church are not important and their children should not eat?

      February 22, 2013 at 5:57 am |
    • Elizbeth

      And while you're judging the church, are you give of all your resources to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, and given shelter to the homeless. It must first work with you before it works with the church.

      February 22, 2013 at 7:24 am |
    • lol??

      The Beast, the airhead A&A's created, is the cause of the homelessness. They, of course, use their F ups to blame the Christians. What a mob of citizens. Anything is a reason to HATE God for them. Dark days are here.

      February 22, 2013 at 8:17 am |
    • lol?? Psychiatrist

      please disregard lol??...this is a mad man suffering from delusions

      February 22, 2013 at 9:57 am |
    • Franklin

      Nordenfeldt
      Everyone with a Jesus Complex feels ent.itled to have their feet washed in expensive perfume. Tammy Faye and Jim Baker supposedly use to order huge numbers of fresh cinnamon buns just to enjoy their smell. Building expensive mega-churches is just the latest in ego-driven excesses billed to the church-goer's dollar.

      February 22, 2013 at 10:28 am |
  17. Steve Wilkinson

    Mormonism IS a cult of Christianity. However, Jeffress probably should have recognized how that technical term is often used to mean something other in common usage, and avoided it. What is rather amusing though, is all the fuss over it by all the uneducated journalists and folks complaining, who simply won't take the actual time to try and understand something.

    February 22, 2013 at 2:41 am |
    • DeadIIIRed

      Christianity as a whole is, by definition of the word, a cult.

      February 22, 2013 at 3:20 am |
    • xusmcvet

      ALL religions are CULTS!

      February 22, 2013 at 4:51 am |
  18. Proud Atheist

    The only reason why people in the U.S. believe that the gay orientation is an abomination is because it's stated in the Babble. I just wish that people would recognize the correlate between the "morals" of God stated in the Babble and the "morals" of Middle Easterners – the race responsible for writing it. The reason why the Babble states that the gay orientation is wrong, women are inferior to men, and slavery is acceptable is due to the fact that those are the morals contained within the ME culture; those are not God's morals.

    If God were real, He would not discriminate against all other sects or people other than the Jews, and His morals most certainly wouldn't contain condoning slavery, misogyny, or abhorring the gay orientation. FundaMENTALists will remain fundaMENTALists and believe in the nonsense anyway, though. :/

    February 22, 2013 at 1:51 am |
    • Johnny Guitar

      I suggest that the bigotry is inherent in the people, and the religion simply give it a false veneer of legitimacy. The xenophobia for others different from you is an odd leftover from primitive times. Religion certainly codified it and legitimized it, but as long as humans view people different from themselves with fear and misunderstanding, the problem will remain.

      Religionis another layer of division in the world, and that has caused so many problems and atrocities, but if the human race were to suddenly evolve enough to rid itself of ancient superstitions, the problem of bigotry would be lessened, not solved.

      February 22, 2013 at 2:02 am |
    • rrock

      It is ironic that the preacher refers to Mormonism as a cult when in fact Christianity and its crazy Bible book are clearly a cult. The bible was written by a bunch of white old guys who were trying to expound their own philosophies. And somehow the ignorant masses believe god wrote it. Crazy.

      February 22, 2013 at 2:03 am |
    • lol??

      Excuses, excuses. bigot

      February 22, 2013 at 2:04 am |
    • ..

      Ignorant trollol??.

      February 22, 2013 at 2:07 am |
    • GodFreeNow

      @Johnny Guitar
      Well stated. I believe Dawkins would agree with you from an evolutionary standpoint. It's easy to point the finger at religion and I think we should, but culture is just as guilty in this regard and quite possibly the final illusion atheism must face. I'm not anti-culture or anti-money, but I think it's helpful to be conscious of any traps of illusion and things that divide us, whether it be religious, cultural or class kinship.

      February 22, 2013 at 2:31 am |
    • Steve Wilkinson

      @ rrock – old white guys?!? I think you need a history course, or a geography course... maybe both! ;)

      February 22, 2013 at 2:53 am |
    • ....

      lol is the only bigot here....it learned a new word and uses it out of context...god will surely punish for that

      February 22, 2013 at 5:47 am |
  19. Don't play with trolls. There is nothing to be gained from it

    Why do you engage lol?? He is simply a sour lonely troll who only occasionally gets out a comprehensible sentence.

    Ignore him as he deserves.

    February 22, 2013 at 1:48 am |
    • lol??

      Plenty of lime in my water moron, and I'm not talkin' fruit. bigot

      February 22, 2013 at 2:07 am |
    • John

      Sometimes things burn bright and you know where they came from, but wonder where they went...

      February 22, 2013 at 6:51 am |
    • lol?? Psychiatrist

      lol?? is offended easily by reality...please disregard its ramblings, they are a sign of the mental retard it is

      February 22, 2013 at 9:58 am |
  20. SCable

    Remind me again.....why is this news?

    February 22, 2013 at 1:47 am |
    • ..

      Because Jeffress is a media whore.

      February 22, 2013 at 1:51 am |
    • Johnny Guitar

      There is no real religious news. God never shows up, nothing supernatural happens. What passes for religious news is really just the stupid things religious people do, nothing more. Tebow fits.

      February 22, 2013 at 1:51 am |
    • SCable

      I know why CNN would choose to put this on their website, but how is this in any way "news", except for CNN trying to MAKE their own news?

      February 22, 2013 at 2:00 am |
    • ..

      It's on other blogs, also, and on other news sites. CNN didn't just pull this out of their ass. But you're right; this really isn't legitimate news as I would define it.

      February 22, 2013 at 2:05 am |
    • Johnny Guitar

      In a capitalist society, news is what sells best. Serious reporting has severely atrophied over the last few decades. There is remarkably little investigative reporting now, especially at the state and local level, because people won't pay for it. This has made it much easier for government corruption to occur – a major watchdog has been curtailed. Your local paper has at best 10% of the investigative reporters it used to have.

      Celebrities sell news, and serious stories don't. Sad but true.

      February 22, 2013 at 2:09 am |
    • lol??

      Do Dot is judging. What a bigot hyper critic.

      February 22, 2013 at 2:09 am |
    • ¤Virgo¤

      lol??,
      Please take a moment and reflect. Thank you.

      Matthew 7
      (NIV)

      7:1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

      3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."

      February 22, 2013 at 2:17 am |
    • lol??

      Do Dot is an agnostic and not an eternal brother. He won't remember me. The pain will be too great.

      February 22, 2013 at 2:22 am |
    • ¤Virgo¤

      This isn't about anyone but you, lol??. Please reconsider how you are trying to get the Truth out.

      Have a blessed evening.

      February 22, 2013 at 2:28 am |
    • Saraswati

      "Remind me again.....why is this news?"

      Because you're willing to read it.

      February 22, 2013 at 9:03 am |
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