By Ben Brumfield and Ben Wedeman, CNN
Vatican City (CNN) - Pope Benedict XVI delivered his final public prayer ceremony Sunday to a crowd of thousands at St. Peter's Square in Vatican City.
And he explained his decision to step down.
"Thank you for your affection," the pope told the crowd as he appeared at the window of his apartment overlooking the square.
As is customary, he opened the weekly Angelus prayer with a short sermon.
Benedict spoke on the Transfiguration of Christ, one of the key moments in Jesus' life on Earth, when, according to the church, he took three disciples to pray on a mountain. During his prayers, Jesus was miraculously changed and filled with light.
The crowd interrupted Benedict with rousing applause, as he told them that God wanted him to do the same.
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"And there did come out from underneath every rock a pestilent host of hypocrites to flail one another in the light of day."
– Verse 89, Revelations Through Better Living II, Teaching Ed.
It's pretty obvious that John of Patmos was a substance abuser. Don't you mean Revelation?
That isn't a biblical quote.
It sounds about as crazy as something from Revelation.
But it isn't and the work was clearly posted for all to see.
Seems like the source is bogus. I don't see this "Revelations Through Better Living II" anywhere.
" You are a pleasure-crazy kingdom, living at ease and feeling secure, bragging as if you were the greatest in the world! You say, I'm self-sufficient and not accountable to anyone!" Isaiah 47:8...
You mistake hedonism for joy, as of course a sourpuss like you would naturally do, CC. I'm not talking about shallow pleasures or sloth or gluttony or promiscuousness, but I'm not surprised that's the conclusion you'd jump to.
You really are dull, aren't you?
Now you are talking, that describes Benny and the Cardinals to a tee Do you think they will allow benny to keep the jewelry and vestments till he dies, won't be long? Come to think of it alot of fundie evangelists fit the bill also..
So what? Each generation feels the same about the succeeding generation. What have you proven, CC, other than your ability to cut and paste?
It's absolutely true: just about all of you are sourpusses who never seem to get any joy out of your lives here on earth other than from admonishing those you think are wrong or telling them they're going to hell. If that's your idea of a life well spent, you can have it. I have other, better things to do. I have better, happier, more creative, more thoughtful, and more caring people to do them with.
If you are the products of your brand of faith, it's a sorry sort of god you worship. He apparently makes you miserable, nasty, judgmental, narrow-minded, putzes.
" O God, Your ways are holy. Is there any god as mighty as You? You are the God of miracles and wonders! You demonstrate Your awesome power among the nations." Psalm 77:13-14...
Quoting others' words doesn't cut it, CC. You can quote the bible all you want, but it doesn't reflect what I see from you and your ilk on here every day. Just threats, nastiness, and disapproval. No joy. No fun. No laughter. No real happiness at all.
O God. bringer of war, death, plagues, suffering and needless death, you are one miserable fvck up of a god, screw you.
My version is better, yes?
Words an atheist will cringe, ridicule and belittle:
" Shout joyful praises to God, all the earth! Sing about the glory of His name! Tell the world how glorious He is. Say to God, How awesome are Your deeds! Your enemies cringe before Your mighty power, everything on earth will worship You; they will sing Your praises, shouting Your name in glorious songs. Come and see what our God has done, what awesome miracles He does for His people! Psalm 66:1-5...
Not one of you seems joyful, loving, or meek. None of you are admirable.
Seems to me your god made a really poor decision when he allowed you to post.
Post the whole babble why don't ya? LOL
" Come and see what our God has done, what awesome miracles He does for His people!"
Show us his awesome miracles, testable, verifiable miracles and not some horse sh-it like "each beautiful flower is one of his miracles" or are you talking about the awesome miracle of letting Hitler slaughter 6million of god's chosen people?
Anybody have a comment on the topic?
The pope gave his last sermon. Not a lot to comment on.
i hope he gets called up to jeebus quickly
Praise God from whom all blessings flow
Praise Him all creatures here below
Praise Him above ye heavenly host
Praise Father Son and Holy Ghost
Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy!
Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy!
The world is holy! The soul is holy! The skin is holy!
The nose is holy! The tongue and cock and hand
and asshole holy!
everything is holy! everybody's holy! everywhere is
holy! everyday is in eternity! everyman's an
The bum's as holy as the seraphim! the madman is
holy as you my soul are holy!
The typewriter is holy the poem is holy the voice is
holy the hearers are holy the ecstasy is holy!
Holy Peter holy allen holy Solomon holy Lucien holy
Kerouac holy Huncke holy Burroughs holy Cas-
sady holy the unknown buggered and suffering
beggars holy the hideous human angels!
Holy my mother in the insane asylum! Holy the cocks
of the grandfathers of Kansas!
Holy the groaning saxophone! Holy the bop
apocalypse! Holy the jazzbands marijuana
hipsters peace & junk & drums!
Holy the solitudes of skyscrapers and pavements! Holy
the cafeterias filled with the millions! Holy the
mysterious rivers of tears under the streets!
Holy the lone juggernaut! Holy the vast lamb of the
middle class! Holy the crazy shepherds of rebell-
ion! Who digs Los angeles iS Los angeles!
Holy New York Holy San Francisco Holy Peoria &
Seattle Holy Paris Holy Tangiers Holy Moscow
Holy time in eternity holy eternity in time holy the
clocks in space holy the fourth dimension holy
the fifth international holy the angel in Moloch!
Holy the sea holy the desert holy the railroad holy the
locomotive holy the visions holy the hallucina-
tions holy the miracles holy the eyeball holy the
Holy forgiveness! mercy! charity! faith! Holy! ours!
bodies! suffering! magnanimity!
Holy the supernatural extra brilliant intelligent
kindness of the soul!
I have another question for all you religious freaks..
Do you have a perpetual calendar? For counting off those long days of "when"?
We already know when.
I'll give you a margin of error by a billion years.
There is no margin of error.
Two were taken bodily to heaven."
Biblical figures in christianity
James, brother of Jesus
Jesus of Nazareth
John the Apostle
John the Baptist
Joseph, husband of Mary
Joseph of Arimathea
Luke the Apostle
Mark the Apostle
Mary, mother of Jesus
Matthew the Apostle
Mark the Apostle
Paul of Tarsus
==For it is certain that according to chrissy that all of the above weren't taken to heaven whilst alive. XD
The Holy Scriptures list who was taken bodily into heaven. There were two.
Go all out lying for a dying cause – christianity. So hilarious.
Who were they Chrissey?
Not so. Christianity is increasing all over the world, China, Iran, Iraq and a million other locations are exciting fields of harvest for the good news of Jesus Christ. Many places hostile to the gospel by governments the Holy Spirit is reaching peoples directly.
Who were they what?
If you're so widespread .. then care to explain why all of you can't make it to heaven alive?
Oh those billions of christians having to die really hurts. Only two that you know got in whilst alive.
Have you conferred with the pope on your list of the TWO person? LOL
Your church fathers – dead or taken to heaven whilst alive?
Augustine of Hippo
Basil the Great of Caesarea
Clement of Alexandria
Clement of Rome
Cyril of Alexandria
Cyprian of Carthage
Gregory of Nazianzus
Gregory of Nyssa
Ignatius of Antioch
Irenaeus of Lyons
Origen of Alexandria
Polycarp of Smyrna
==Give it a good go chrissy. I'm there for ya. XD
Who were the two that were taken bodily into heaven? Chapter and verse please.
Some of those dead popes ... :P
Gregory the Great
John Paul II
No Christian really dies, we sleep until we are present with the Lord unharmed and free from the second death. At the fullness of time the last generation of Christians will all be caught up bodily to be with the Lord Jesus and so will we ever be. Those who have gone on before in Christ will be restored to Him.
I am not your Bible source huebert, do the research yourself. It is worth so much more for you to discover truth for yourself.
Translation of chrissy's post: Oh, sh!t! I don't know the answer and now I look like an idiot. Oh, well, I'll just react as I always do when I'm caught with my panties down. I'll blame it on the person who's asking me the question I can't answer.
Actually I do know the names and places they can be found but it is so much more rewarding to do your own work don't you agree tom tom. I mean you wouldn't want to be sp oon fed the Bible would you ?
No, you don't. Nice try, though. You really should take some acting classes, after you learn how to use punctuation.
- Hercules it was believed, following the completion of his twelve labors, was raised into Elysium and made a god by Zeus.
- Apollonius of Tyana was said to have been assumed into Elysium by Philostratus.
Tom, Tom: Of course chrissy knows the biblical ones - she's named her cat after one of them.
(the Catholics include 3 in their list, btw)
This is a blog tom, i notice even you misused punctuation to enable foul language. Sort of a pot calling a kettle situation don't you think?
So you refuse to provide supporting evidence for your claims....nice. Please give me one reason as to why I should believe a word you say if you refuse to provide evidence?
Uh, chrissy, honey? The difference is that I know how to write correctly. You do not. I notice you have avoided answering the question, too. Why?
So that huebert might know the joy of finding out the truth for itself. I'll give you a hint huebert think Old Testament. (although both are mentioned again in the New Testament)
I thought your kind were supposed to be so much more knowledgeable about the Bible than believers?
Ooooh, chrissy, this research is FUN!
According to the post-biblical Jewish Midrash, EIGHT people went to heaven (also referred to as the Garden of Eden and Paradise) alive:
Elijah (Kings II Chapter 2, Verse 11)
Serach, the daughter of Asher – one of the sons of Jacob (Midrash Yalkut Shimoni (Yechezkel 367))
Enoch (Genesis 5:22-24)
Eliezer, the servant of Abraham
Hiram, king of Tyre
Ebed Melech, the Ethiopian
Jaabez, the son of Rabbi Yehudah ha-Nasi
Bithiah, the daughter of Pharaoh
and then, there's :
- Sant Tukaram was taken to Vaikunta on Garuda Vahan which was witnessed by all the village people.
–Chaitanya Mahaprabhu disappeared after entering the temple deity room of Lord Jagannath.
- Ramalinga Swamigal (Swami Ramalinga), a great Sage revered by his teaching. Ramalinga supposedly attained the Supreme Body of the Godhead when Divinity itself merged with him. He was reported to have disappeared after deciding to de-materialize his immortal body by his own free will, his body was never found.
- Muhammad ascended into heaven alive at the site of the Dome of the Rock. However, this ascent was temporary and he came back to Earth. It is ascribed to the exact descriptions presented in both the Quran and the Hadith.
I thought your kind were supposed to be so much more knowledgeable about the Bible than believers?
Many of us are, but it's been many years since I read the bible, and I have no desire to pick it up again. And it is not my job to support your argument. If you would like to continue this discussion you may pleas provide a source for your claim that two, and only two, people ascended bodily into heaven, if you won't do this I have nothing further do discuss with you.
Aaaand from chrissie: crickets chirping.
I'm sure chrissie thinks it's oh-so-clever with its choice of screen names. Too bad it falls far short of Hitchens' level of discourse.
I do love the lying it does, though. It won't deprive Huebert the "joy of research."
Yeah, and pigs fly out of its azz, too.
Once again huebert
There is no argument. Two were taken bodily into heaven. It is a biblical fact easily found. You jumped into the conversation if you want the answer find it. It will be a valuable learning experience for you.
If you claimed it the onus is on you to back it up, chris. You can't, or you'd have done so. Or should I call you "Chad?"
Sorry to hear that huebert
Your infirmity does not prevent your being on this blog, search for your answer on the internet. Being crippled it will be all that more exciting for you. In the Kingdom of Heaven your lameness will not be an issue.
Funny how Christians like chrissy can read "do unto others as you would have others do unto you," and then turn around and be snotty, disingenuous, and evasive. Apparently that's how they want to be treated.
To all religious nut jobs..
Why can't your god take you to heaven whilst you are still living?
Why haven't ALL you religious freaks gotten together and do a prayer sit in and pray for your god to take you all to heaven right this moment or tomorrow?
Do the impossible and ask your god to come get you while you are alive. Leave this world of the living to those who aren't nut cases like yourself. Thank you.
Why? Don't you realize that we inherit the earth.
Two were taken bodily to heaven.
What, you're "meek"? That word does not mean what you think it means, doofus.
Why only two, chrissy troll? Why not you?
Poor you..in your own case you have to die. XD
When the Lord Jesus returns I may well be taken bodily into heaven. Until that time two that did not see death have been taken as witnesses to that which is still to be.
What a crock.
You'll need a lot of egg timers chrissy.. go and help out your economy and buy them all.
Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son, meek means humble. Opposite direction your life took.
I know what "meek" means, you bozo. That's why it doesn't apply to YOU.
To all Christians, if you don't require proof of God, then your aren't a Christian, you are just retarded.
To prove God
Seek God with your whole heart and mind and soul, repent of your sins and accept Jesus as your Savior, then see what happens.
Retarded and extremely gullible.
Nope, doesn't work. I can't simply choose to believe something, especially when not one of you who do can explain how it makes no sense and when you who do believe are mostly azzholes.
That came out ALL wrong. I cannot simply "choose" to believe something that makes no sense, especially when the people who do believe it (at least on this blog) are mostly azzholes.
Perhaps it came out all wrong because you are all wrong.
To reply to you re:proving God
Seek God while he may be found seek God with your whole mind, heart and soul repent of your sins and accept the Lord Jesus as your Savior, then see what happens.
Proof that atheists have no heart.
How am I wrong? You are an azzhole, and your explanations make no sense. I cannot choose to suspend all logic and rational thought and force myself to believe that for which there is no evidence.
And why would I want to have your beliefs? They make you and most of the other fundies here complete jerks that I'd never seek out in real life. If that's what your faith does for you, you can have it. You're an unpleasant, nasty little twerp. If religion does nothing to improve YOU, why would I need it?
You asked proof you were given proof if you choose not to try it is no ones fault but your own.
What proof? That YOU believe something? That's not proof of anything but your extreme stupidity.
Fake Hitchens, What proof? "The bible says it" is not proof of a god, let alone proof of your god. Please post proof here that is not a bible quotation.
There is no biblical quotation if you want to prove God meet Him. Nothing I said was a quote.
Fake Hitchens. So what is the proof of your god?
If you want to prove God meet God.
Fake Hitchens. You're talking in riddles. You have to believe and that's your proof? Does that remind you of how fortune-tellers operate – "it doesn't work if you don't already believe"?
There is no riddle
If you want to prove God make the effort to meet God.
Seek UFO's with all your heart, mind and soul. Repent your disbelief and accept UFO's are real. After all that of course you will start seeing them
To all Atheist if you require proof of God, then your aren't an Atheist, you are just undecided.
I am an atheist. Proof would change my mind.
I only need "proof of God" only if I must entertain someone's claim that there is a God.
I require proof and I am an atheist.
How does that make any sense?
Was that English?
Richard- what is acceptable proof for you.
What is acceptable as proof?
Have your god come down and take you whack job religious peeps to your heaven already.
Empirical evidence. Something that can be tested and verified.
Not " I can prove the bible is correct. Here, in the bible it says so."
"It" announces in advance where we will be meeting for lunch. During lunch, it permanently eliminates child hunger throughout the world – no tricks, no "just kidding," no evil god retribution because I doubted it. A being that did this would get my attention.
Just have god do something miraculous that is witnessed by more than one person. And have him announce it before hand. That certainly seems easy enough for a god.
Actually ken, according to the bible, it is not difficult for Jesus to appear to people. Strangely, he stopped 2000 years ago. Why? Paul is never a believer if Jesus does not appear to him and convince him. Why should I be?
Ok Atheist – Seek and you shall find.
kenrick.. you've found your god up in your rear. It's so clear.
Why would a loving god remain invisible in the face of the murder of 20 children?
Why does someone have to look for him? To do what? Don't you think millions pray to a god daily and get nothing in response? They're all "seeking" and finding there's nothing there.
Ken, what is "seek and you shall find" supposed to mean? Why don't you answer my question?
Richard Cranium, believe it or not, all you airheads that require proof tells us how arrogant you are.
Seek God with your whole soul and mind and heart, repent of your sins and accept the Lord Jesus as your Savior, then watch what happens.
"Seek and you shall find"
What a load. I was a believer until I started seeking. I looked for years and found no evidence for god, so I made the logical conclusion. He does not exist. Of course this conclusion could be wrong, but in order for me to change it, someone will have to put forward good evidence for the existence of god.
Huebert- Since you stated you have seek and did not find, what were you looking for as proof? Here is a synopsis of what I have found, Everything was created from Energy and Energy is neither created or destroyed but transposed, with this being said the reason for the Past, Present, Future and also death is Entropy. Now the only thing that can reverse the effects of Entropy is Energy. It is written that GOD is Light, through science we know that Light is energy, in my teachings i was taught that one day everything would be renewed and since Energy is the only thing that can trump Entropy, I am looking forward to the day.
Carnal beings, thinking and doing, never to learn Jesus' spiritual truth. All words are divinely inspired by God to scribe the Bible. I gave my camel-toe $5.00 for cigarettes but I still can't get my change out. Atheists are too blind to see His truth whether I write it in street language or scripture form.
LOL !!!! :D What's up, bro ???????
You still planning on coming down my way sometime in the near future ?
Let me know... we need to catch up.
Hey Peace, yes! I don't know where the time goes. Not sure when but we still need to do that thing.
Phony heavensent proves he/she has no imagination due to be forced to hijack my handle all the time.
Horus: Egyptian, 6000 BC
Dionysus: Greek, 1500 BC
Attis: Greek, 1200 BC
Mithra: Zoroastrian, 600 BC
Krishna: Hindu, 400 BC
What is the difference between these religious figures (and many others) and Jesus? Nothing.
Isn't your question the same as asking what's the difference between an apple?
Some had an appreciation for good wine.
I am obviously referring to their taste in men.
I'm sorry, I meant their taste of men. Damn it. I don't know. Sorry.
Catholics don't want boys with good taste, they want boys that taste good.
AB, if you hurry, there is an apple that needs polishing over in the corner.
The Anamorphic Judeo-Christian god of the bible does not and cannot exist. If you believe in religious mythology in 2013, you are intellectually stunted and possibly mentally ill.
What about Scientology? I really feel like a good Thetan cleanse today. Is that crazy?
Scientology is fine.
Hey, AB. Still fighting the good fight, I see.
AB, keep telling yourself that since none of you in your generation have an imagination to speak of. Keep ripping off what other generations before you accomplished.
So, because you're an ancient crone, you think everyone else is just sponging off your accomplishments? Please. You couldn't even keep a job.
It is dark in your South African condo. You come into the living room to switch off the television. You are ready to join your girlfriend in the bedroom. It is Valentine’s Day. As you pad quietly up the stairs, you here a peculiar sound and hear a door shut. You start, then collect yourself and retrieve your gun from the nearby closet. Thinking your beautiful sweetheart is in the bedroom sleeping, your mind reels madly. Terrified you fire without thinking through the bathroom door where you just heard noises. Four times you fire your gun. Your girlfriend is not in bed sleeping.
Bang! Bang! Maxwell's silver hammer made sure that she was dead.
@Where is your God now?
Oscar? That you?
Hi Real Peace!! What's up, long time no see!
Hey Akira, what's up?
If so... give me a sign ? :D
TTTOO, you made me laugh.
I know what god likes, I know what god needs
I know what god wants, god wants me....
to the tune of....
The Catholic Church has many problems today and a checkered history but at least they have a somewhat open mind regarding science. They have tried to accommodate evolution and the universe's timeline, saying the body is the result of evolution but the soul was created by god. I wish the fundamentalists could be open to this but sadly there appears to be little hope of that.
Soul was created for bottom of shoe can be replaced or repaired .
Maybe they (RCC) knows this and that is why there is a cover up .
I wish the "fundie" atheists would just use a little reason and logic and look to God's true word instead of believing in the lies and opinions of man...
There are no words of god. They're all the words of man.
Old Ratzunger was in charge of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith for twenty five years where all important RCC docu ments are stored. Ratzinger ordered that all files regarding pedophile priests come across his desk after 2001, so he probably had more knowledge than anyone in the Vatican of the scandals. When he became pope Benny he stated in a speech, "I must say these revelations were a shock for me. They are a great sadness and it is hard to understand how the perversion of the priestly ministry was possible." Some shock the old bugger should have come clean to the laity and told them he had been lying to them for years, no confession for this sinner.
Where there's smoke there's usually fire. . . Where's there's a religious shaman, there's usually a mentally ill liar and all too often, a child molestor and his protectors.
Re mentally ill shamans, Kool-Aid comes to mind. If you still take communion, always ask yourself "What's in the wine"?
Never taken communion. I am not a member of the christian death cult.
Well you're missing something, HAA. The body of Christ is a good substrate for cheese whiz and maybe a little pickled onion and a jalapeno slice.
Prayer changes things.
Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.
An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!
Oh look jill, aka lol? aka just sayin are back from lunch break.
If god's supreme plan rules in the heavens then prayer is useless. If you pray for something that's not in the plan it won't happen, no matter how hard you pray. And if you pray for something in the plan, it would have happened anyway even without your prayer.
If god gives us free will, then no matter how hard you pray god refuses to do anything, like not doing anything for the 6m Jews because that would interfere with Hitler's free will
Maybe as his last act, an ex cathedra pronouncement, Joey Ratzinger can legitimize gay clergy. He should.
But what about the independent issue of pedophiles? He has been more comfortable with pedophiles than with gay clergy, I believe. Perhaps he will just enjoin pedophile clergy to be gentle pedophiles.
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