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First on CNN: Atheists ratchet up rhetoric, use billboards to attack Republican politicians
March 3rd, 2013
05:00 AM ET

First on CNN: Atheists ratchet up rhetoric, use billboards to attack Republican politicians

By Dan Merica, CNN

Washington (CNN) – An atheist organization known for being provocative plans to take that reputation to the next level this week by putting up seven billboards that call out prominent politicians and religious leaders.

American Atheists plans to target three Republican politicians: former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, former House Speak Newt Gingrich and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum.

The seven signs will go up around Dallas and Austin, Texas.

In one billboard, a picture of Palin is featured on the left, with a quote attributed to her. "We should create law based on the God of the Bible," the quote reads. Underneath the graphic is a tag line "GO GODLESS INSTEAD."

The billboard, however, misquotes Palin. In an interview with Fox News’ Bill O'Reilly, Palin addressed the growth in American secularism by saying America's founding fathers "would create law based on the God of the Bible and the Ten Commandments," not "should."

Each of the billboards has a similar format and includes a pitch for the group’s 50th anniversary convention in Austin.

Santorum is condemned for when he told an Iowa crowd last November that, "our civil laws have to comport with a higher law: God's law," while Gingrich is criticized for a remark he made at a CNN debate on October 18, 2011, in Las Vegas. "How can I trust you with power if you don't pray," Gingrich posited.

Virginia Davis, spokeswoman for Santorum, thanked American Atheists for the publicity.

"At a time when many are trying to remove God from the public square, the senator is appreciative of someone helping him very publicly express his strong belief that we are one nation under God," Davis wrote in an e-mail to CNN.

American Atheists President David Silverman, however, sees the billboards as a way to shame the targets.

"We at American Atheists are shaming these leaders for their bigoted and backwards remarks and attitudes, and conveying a message to today's atheists that we need not take it anymore," Silverman wrote in an e-mail to CNN.

Two religious leaders, the Rev. Robert Jeffress, pastor at the First Baptist Dallas, and Benedict XVI, now the pope emeritus, also are featured on billboards.

Jeffress' billboard includes a quote the pastor said during a 2008 sermon titled, "Gay Is Not OK." "What they [homosexuals] do is filthy," reads the billboard. Under the quote is the phrase "Go Godless Instead" and a rainbow flag, a symbol of gay rights.

This will be the only ad placed in Dallas, featured in a busy stretch of Interstate 30 and only a few miles from Jeffress' large church.

The First Baptist Church of Dallas is a member of the Southern Baptist Convention. Jeffress, who has been in its pulpit since 2007, is no stranger to controversy, including comments about Judiasm and Catholicism. After introducing Texas Gov. Rick Perry at the Values Voter Summit in Washington in October 2011, Jeffress told reporters he believed Mormonism was a cult, expressing a personal position and one held by his denomination. The move was seen as a particular slight to former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, a lifelong Mormon.

The billboard featuring Benedict XVI, who stepped down Thursday, cites a New York Times article entitled, "Vatican Declined to Defrock U.S. Priest Who Abused Boys." "The Church Protected Priests Who Abused Children," reads the billboard.

Silverman says the group plans to spend $25,000 on the billboards, which will go up on Monday and remain up for the rest of March.

"Everyone should be allowed to profess their faith, of course, but that does not shield them from criticism," Silverman wrote. "Everyone has the responsibility to lead moral lives, and 'It's my religion' is not an excuse for bigotry or immorality."

Silverman continued: "Some Americans seem to think that bigotry in the name of religion is somehow permissible. It is not. We hope that the believers of Austin place anti-atheist bigotry in the same category as anti-Semitism or racism - a relic of the past that needs to be jettisoned for all the right reasons."

Six of the billboards will be dispersed around the Austin area, with four placed on high traffic freeways.

This is not the first time American Atheists has used billboards to get its message out.

Last March, the group targeted Muslims and Jews with billboards that called God a "myth" in both Arabic and Hebrew.

In November 2010, the same group posted a billboard around the holiday season that read, "You KNOW it's a Myth. This Season, Celebrate REASON."

Silverman, who has been criticized for this in-your-face atheism, has long defended the tactic, saying that the confrontation is meant to "grow the cause and benefit the country."

"That's why companies buy billboards - to get attention," Silverman wrote.

- Dan Merica

Filed under: Atheism • Belief • Catholic Church • Newt Gingrich • Politics • Pope • Rick Santorum • Sarah Palin

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  1. Correctlycenter

    Jesus answer when questioned by satan in the wilderness: IT IS WRITTEN (SCRIPTURE) God's truth always seems to upset the godless and the evil minded...

    March 3, 2013 at 5:53 pm |
    • Answer

      When ever christians see Zeus' name they run in terror because that's the truth.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:56 pm |
    • Answer

      Don't forget to post a babble quote also.

      JOHN 3:16. LUKE (some other bs). MATTHEW (hues a tree).

      March 3, 2013 at 5:59 pm |
    • lenojames

      It is written in scripture that slavery, genocide, infanticide, supordination of women, and many other atrocities are god's will.

      You are right. That does disturb me.

      March 3, 2013 at 6:03 pm |
    • Lilith

      You're Godless too, you just don't seem to know it yet.

      March 3, 2013 at 6:08 pm |
  2. Scott

    I can understand why stone-age dwellers needed 'faith', but educated folks? It's just license to believe any nonsense you wish to further your own ends. Religion is this, on a larger scale and to create an accepting community. Bizarre. Imagine if all religious people just starting exploring astrophysics or astronomy or particle theories......what a sweet day that will be when 'the gods of man are dead, and we are old enough not to need new ones...' – A. Clarke

    March 3, 2013 at 5:50 pm |
    • caesarbc

      People have tried to off Gods in the past, yet it is demonstrably true that the exact opposite effect has occurred, thus actually growing and reinforcing the church in numbers. If your aim to undermine it, keep tryin.'

      March 3, 2013 at 5:53 pm |
    • Correctlycenter

      Who created the elements on the periodic table? Carl Sagan? Stars, planets, moons, earth and all living things on it just don't appear out of nowhere. An Intelligent Designer in Genesis chapter 1 created everything...

      March 3, 2013 at 5:59 pm |
    • ME II

      @ceasarbc,
      "....actually growing and reinforcing the church in numbers..."
      This is 'belief' in god, not "offing God". Church attendance has no bearing on the existence of a god, or lack thereof.

      March 3, 2013 at 6:00 pm |
    • ME II

      @CorrectlyCenter,
      "An Intelligent Designer in Genesis chapter 1 created everything..."
      Evidence?

      March 3, 2013 at 6:02 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Why is the answer "I don't know" such a hard pill for you to swallow, CC? The fact is that we don't know. You want to stop looking for answers and just take the easy way out: throw up your hands and say "God musta done it."

      Science doesn't do that. Scientists keep looking for answers and they're learning more every day. Simply because we don't know something is not a reason to assume an invisible being did anything.

      March 3, 2013 at 6:02 pm |
    • clarity

      The religious are terrified of the answers "I don't know" or "I don't know yet".

      March 3, 2013 at 6:03 pm |
    • Garn

      Actually, when gods are 'offed' they simply become mythology. Like the Norse gods, Greek, Roman etc... no one is around to defend the religion so it becomes acceptable to call them what they were all along, a mythology. I notice christ followers get very upset when their beliefs are referred to as mythology though (lets wait 141 years and try again 🙂 Hinduism is in transition

      March 3, 2013 at 6:06 pm |
    • lenojames

      @correctlyCenter

      So, an intelligent designer created the universe, with all the gamma ray bursts, and black holes spread throughout it. Then he created the earth, with all the solar flares and astroids hovering right next to it. Then he created animals that survive by consuming other animals. Then in the middle of all of this he created man in a idyllic garden setting...6000 years ago.

      Then, this "intelligent designer's" man fails a test that the designer created. So, to save man, the designer makes himself into a man, sacrifices himself to himself, so that man can avoid failing the test by simply believing that the designer really did sacrifice himself...to himself???

      March 3, 2013 at 6:17 pm |
  3. T

    God didnt create Adam and Eve...God didnt create Adam and Steve either. God, if one exists, just created atom. cmon.

    March 3, 2013 at 5:48 pm |
  4. Robert

    It's strange that Athesists always claim that Chrisitians are imposing and forcing their beliefs on others, but this is a prime example of how they are forcing their beliefs on everyone else. Talk about hypocrisy. Of course they will say well the Chrisitians did it first and all that nonsense....

    March 3, 2013 at 5:44 pm |
    • caesarbc

      ok – now what did that solve? grow up, stop the hate.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:48 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      What are they forcing on you?

      March 3, 2013 at 5:49 pm |
    • .

      What is strange is that you are using the same tactics you claim atheists are guilty of: broad generalizations. S t f u.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:50 pm |
    • 12ax7

      I agree with you Robert. The most obvious example is every time there is an article about religion made by CNN or any others on the internet, atheists are there first posting their filthy comments way before any religious people even commented.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:51 pm |
    • If horses had Gods .. their Gods would be horses

      How is a billboard "forcing their beliefs on others"? It's not like a billboard is a law or tax break!

      March 3, 2013 at 5:51 pm |
    • waterman

      What beliefs have atheist imposed? Are they suggesting that no one should be allowed to practice religion? No.
      On the other hand, making laws based on religion IS imposing religion, and your particular religion, on everyone.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:51 pm |
    • billy

      athies are cute. every time they are in trouble, wormwood gives a holler and they come a running helter-skelter.

      cnn got em moderating, too. censor anything that gets divine insight pis sed. and she get pis sed perty easy

      March 3, 2013 at 5:52 pm |
    • Lilith

      12ax7 .. all that proves is believers just aren't as quick as Atheists.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:53 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      @Robert and 12: what is being forced on you?

      And what does a belief blog have to do with anything being "forced on" anyone? So what if somebody beat you to the punch here. Is that a "sin" in your book, 12?

      March 3, 2013 at 5:53 pm |
    • lenojames

      LOL Do you even pay attention to the words you type, or do you jost bang on the keyboard with your fists???

      "It's strange that Athesists always claim that Chrisitians are imposing and forcing their beliefs on others..."
      "Of course they will say well the Chrisitians did it first and all that nonsense...."

      It's not hypocrisy if it's true.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:54 pm |
    • Hogan

      Except atheists don't say that. I've never said that once in my life. I enjoy when Christians bring their religion to me, because after we're done talking, they're the ones walking away with their tail between their legs.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:54 pm |
    • Ian

      Now what "belief" would that be? just to educate you, athiesm is a LACK of belief. Its up to you to PROVE there is a god.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:55 pm |
    • Randy

      We have no issue with what you privately believe in your home, church or private schools. But keep it out of our schools, laws and government.public

      March 3, 2013 at 5:55 pm |
    • 12ax7

      @Lilith

      Either you're really dumb or either you're plain stupid.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:57 pm |
    • Robert

      "Go Godless Instead"..... That is being forced. I'm praying for you all.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:57 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      There's a difference between "dumb" and "stupid"?

      Do tell. What is it?

      Why is it you haven't been able to answer, 12? How is responding on a blog forcing anything on you?

      March 3, 2013 at 5:58 pm |
    • Emma

      I think the larger point is that atheists simply understand that Zeus, Cronos, Bath, Quetzl..., Shiva, Thor, the christian one with no name, are all false. They don't have the answers to the cosmos and that's okay. christians on the other hand believe in some seriously whacked out notions that are obviously false, come from a time when the world was flat, dark matter was undiscovered, and germs hadn't yet been found. It is nothing but silly. In the same way a Christian understands that the elephant headed god Ganesh was made by man and isn't real, the sky faerie is fake too 🙂

      ps. noone likes to talk about it, but there is no soul either. (YIKES!!) sorry, but when you die, you don't go anywhere. Your body rots, your friends remember you, but there is no party in a happy place for millions, billions, and trillions of years 🙂 🙂 🙂

      March 3, 2013 at 5:58 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      "Go Godless Instead"

      What's that "forcing" on you? When you see an ad for Charmin, do you think you're being forced to use it?

      March 3, 2013 at 5:59 pm |
    • 12ax7

      @Randy

      Religion is older than your so called Atheism pride. You are the one who have put your nose in our business. So you are also the one who should mind your own business and accept what the world is and was way before you morons showed up.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:59 pm |
    • Ralter

      I'm not an aethist myself... but even then I don't really get this this whole "forcing" thing you're talking about. They're advertising on a billboard, that doesn't force anyone to do anything. Passing laws based on religious texts though... well that does force people to do things or wind up in jail and unable to get a job. That's a rather hypocritical argument you're making here.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:59 pm |
    • crateguy

      Politicians should answer to the people. They should deal with foreign and domestic affairs of the state. They should not, however, espouse fundamentalist religious beliefs in the public sphere in order to garner support for their re-election. There should be no religious test required as a qualification to any political office in the United States. If you want your politicians to be your religious leaders, then tear down your churches and watch C-Span on Sunday. If you want your churches to direct foreign and domestic policy, then tear down the government and set up a theocracy like the one they have in Saudi Arabia. These billboards are a response to a religious intrusion in our government.

      March 3, 2013 at 6:01 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      12, how do you know religion has been around longer than atheism?

      For your information, this isn't a theocracy and you don't get to force others to live by your beliefs. You don't get to teach creationism in public schools, you don't get to put a nativity scene on public property, and you don't get to make laws based on the bible.

      March 3, 2013 at 6:05 pm |
    • 12ax7

      @Tom Tom

      And you Atheists proclaiming to be intelligent. Even a dumb person know that even the cavemen thought the Sun was a God as well as the Moon and the first time they've seen a Lightning Bolt. Gods was in all kind of form has always been in the human mind. Atheism on the other hand was put up by a gay person who didn't like what God said about it being a filthy thing. Same gender lovers couldn't live with a conscience of doing bad, so they brain washed themselves into believing there is not God so they can do whatever please them.

      March 3, 2013 at 6:12 pm |
    • Robert

      @ Tom, Tom

      Silverman, who has been criticized for this in-your-face atheism, has long defended the tactic, saying that the confrontation is meant to "grow the cause and benefit the country."

      The article says it not me. That is what leads me to believe it is being forced.

      March 3, 2013 at 7:38 pm |
  5. CorrectlyLeft

    CorrectlyCenter, stop tossing scripture arround as if it were some kind of fact.

    March 3, 2013 at 5:42 pm |
    • Robert

      How do you know it isn't?

      March 3, 2013 at 5:46 pm |
    • Lilith

      Robert, there's no reason to believe it is.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:49 pm |
  6. ...

    Laws based on religion. Sounds familiar...sharia law anyone? Of course, they could always market it differently.

    March 3, 2013 at 5:40 pm |
    • .

      However it's marketed, it's still bullshit.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:41 pm |
  7. H . D. HARVEY

    I have known many people who always when they had a problem to overcome or decision to make went to God with prayer on what to do. If they suceeded then "God told them what to do, and they did it correctly", but if they failed it was "God's will that they not do that", but never did they accept responsibility for their actions and incapability if it went wrong. I saw that Newt Gingrich said "How can I trust you if you don't pray". My question is how can you trust some one who cannot make a decision without praying and asking God, Jesus and probably a priest in confession(IF your are Catholic, which Newt now claims to be) and maybe half a church congregation for the anwer?

    March 3, 2013 at 5:39 pm |
    • caesarbc

      Why are you so intolerant? Very real people seek advice from pastors and they get real help. Who are you to judge them? This is why Christianity grew and was so attractive to people who were so oppressed by the Romans.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:42 pm |
  8. blueollie

    Unless the Atheist Groups are tax exempt in the way that churches are, there is no problem here.

    March 3, 2013 at 5:39 pm |
  9. Deisty

    All of mankind's gods are false, but even though I firmly believe that, I'm not an atheist. I think 99.99% of religious people would be confused by that. OSTRICHES!!!

    March 3, 2013 at 5:30 pm |
    • caesarbc

      People are offended by variation in skin color, cultural practices, religions, etc. Not a reason to hate them though, which is curable with education.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:33 pm |
  10. caesarbc

    The truth is both science and religion operate on two different levels of cognitive comprehension, and people often conflate one or the other and impose those same modes of thinking on to the other, when they are creating an epistemic impossibility. Metaphysical beliefs rely on spiritual understanding, where the Bible and the Quran do not need to be spoken in context to understand Holy parables. Science does rely on empirical evidence to support and test hypotheses, which cannot be imposed on religion. Everyone needs to take a chill pill.

    March 3, 2013 at 5:30 pm |
    • Answer

      Dover Trial.

      Give it a rest? They surely haven't. The Discover Ins-t-i-t-ute.. look them up and see if they are just "passive".

      March 3, 2013 at 5:32 pm |
    • clarity

      I hear ya. Do you think the Westboro Baptist church hears you?

      March 3, 2013 at 5:34 pm |
    • caesarbc

      Why are people suddenly so intolerant? Just because some terrorists in a cave concocted this entire plan to dissolve America and the west doesn't mean you have to help perpetuate it.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:34 pm |
    • caesarbc

      The Westboro Baptist church does not deserve a response to every crazy thing they thing of. They should be ignored, and never ever given justification in a response.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:38 pm |
  11. gager

    Why just the GOP? Go after all believers including liberal believers.

    March 3, 2013 at 5:28 pm |
    • Akira

      Well, I agree in concept, except the liberal believers tend not to want to codify religious beliefs into law, being as they understand the difference between church and state. And the three politicians in the billboard above exemplify exactly what is wrong with the GOP and wanting to breach that separation.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:32 pm |
  12. searchingintruth

    Its time to stop hating and fearing Christianity, and just get along. There will always be disputes, but lets get a grip on fear mongering.

    March 3, 2013 at 5:28 pm |
    • Answer

      Christians will say "repent" and soon after "hell" if you disagree. What a wonderful set of bs lines they love using.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:30 pm |
    • Emma

      It is actually always a good time to 'hate' ignorant belief systems that end up hurting innumerable facets of Earth 🙂

      March 3, 2013 at 5:31 pm |
    • Live4Him

      @Emma : It is actually always a good time to 'hate' ignorant belief systems that end up hurting innumerable facets of Earth

      Those with the facts don't need to resort to ad hominems. Those without are ignorant of the facts supporting their beliefs.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:37 pm |
    • ME II

      Did you read the example billboards? It looks like the fear-mongering is going the other way. Perhaps, it's time Christians stop hating and fearing others.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:39 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      When did Emma resort to ad hominem? I don't think you're clear on what the term means, Lie4ever.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:40 pm |
    • ME II

      @Live4Him,
      I don't see @Emma's statement as an Ad Hominem.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:41 pm |
    • hal 9001

      I'm sorry, "Live4Him", but you have no facts.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:44 pm |
    • Live4Him

      @ME II : I don't see @Emma's statement as an Ad Hominem.

      Lets review her statement:

      Emma : It is actually always a good time to 'hate' ignorant belief systems

      Is calling someone's belief system 'ignorant' a personal attack? Yes. Does she support that conclusion with facts? No Would you consider it a personal attack to 'all atheists are ignorant'? Yes.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:45 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Nope. Not ad hominem. Emma didn't attack you or anyone else. She called belief systems ignorant. Not you.

      Although that would have been completely accurate.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:47 pm |
    • Live4Him

      @Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son : Not ad hominem. Emma didn't attack you or anyone else. She called belief systems ignorant.

      Whose belief systems? Everyone who disagrees with her beliefs. Ad hominem.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:49 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Nope. Not ad hominem. She never said you or anyone else was ignorant. She said the system was ignorant.

      Why don't you just put Emma on your Lie4ever's Famous Ignore List?

      March 3, 2013 at 5:51 pm |
    • ME II

      @Live4Him,
      "It is actually always a good time to 'hate' ignorant belief systems that end up hurting innumerable facets of Earth "

      It looks to me like Emma is targeting ignorant "belief systems" not the those that believe in them, which I would agree with.
      However, I can see how you might read it the other way, I guess.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:51 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Too late, MEII. Emma's is already on the Famous Ignore List. Once consigned thence, no one ever returns.

      March 3, 2013 at 6:06 pm |
  13. billy

    scientism is their gods. empiricism v.p., in charge of magic. atheists the sons

    "is the self-annihilating view that only scientific claims are meaningful, which is not a scientific claim and hence, if true, not meaningful. Thus, scientism is either false or meaningless."

    don't even try to measure gods. ain't equipped

    March 3, 2013 at 5:26 pm |
  14. searchingintruth

    The truth is that the mixing of church and state taints BOTH the church and the state, in doing so, because BOTH lose the purity of their cause and effect, and BOTH are consequently corrupted. The Christians lose because they cannot agree on which particular sect of Christianity should prevail, and this would only result in endless ensuing conflicts forever thereafter. The government also loses because it is then embroiled in the very same disputes arising from religious differences. Is it any wonder that Shiite and Sunni Muslims are forever at odds with one another wherever Islam and government are mixed?

    March 3, 2013 at 5:26 pm |
  15. Correctlycenter

    A question an atheist cannot truly answer: Who created the heavens and the earth and all living things?

    March 3, 2013 at 5:24 pm |
    • Answer

      Zeus did.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:26 pm |
    • .

      The question nobody can answer: who created the creator?

      March 3, 2013 at 5:26 pm |
    • Answer

      On the other hand .. the Spaghetti Monster also.

      They helped each other. You can't give credit to only Zeus. 😀

      March 3, 2013 at 5:27 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      I truly believe that most likely, high probability, virtually certain, that there was no who involved. Can you say with 100% certainty that you know a who was involved? Unless you have conclusive, independent, verifiable, objective evidence that proves a who was involved, then you don't really know – you believe what most non-believers believe – we don't know.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:30 pm |
    • gager

      What silliness to ask "who". You should be asking "how". And the answer is, "I don't know but we're working on it.".

      March 3, 2013 at 5:30 pm |
    • gager

      Life is simply a chemical reaction...all the way to the core.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:32 pm |
    • TheBenIrwinShow

      We can answer that question. The truthful and humble answer: we don't know. That's the beauty and mystery of it. Don't you think one of life's big questions deserves a more honest, intellectual answer than 'God did it?' We might not know now, but at least we're working on it.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:33 pm |
    • Live4Him

      @gager : Life is simply a chemical reaction...all the way to the core.

      Then why do we die? When we die, chemical reactions are still going on.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:35 pm |
    • Patbens

      It is Evolution ! why invent things when it is that simple.
      And there is one sure thing Atheist/agnostic know for a fact: It was not the fairy-tail in the sky supported by man made invented books that created humans. Ignorance is not an excuse to invent this notion of God. As humans we have the greatest gift of all the animals on this planet: REASON but also IMAGINATION! Never underestimate human's imagination!

      March 3, 2013 at 5:36 pm |
    • Live4Him

      @Patbens : It is Evolution ! why invent things when it is that simple.

      So, what premises support your beliefs?

      March 3, 2013 at 5:39 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @Live4Him – "Then why do we die? When we die, chemical reactions are still going on."

      Are you serious? Perhaps I misunderstand Live4Him-speak.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:40 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Why do you need evidence, Lie4ever? You don't have any and you seem quite secure in your beliefs.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:41 pm |
    • Live4Him

      @Really-O? : Are you serious?

      Is decay a chemical reaction? Yes.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:47 pm |
    • Darth AnViL

      this:

      Live4Him
      @gager : Life is simply a chemical reaction...all the way to the core.

      Then why do we die? When we die, chemical reactions are still going on.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:35 pm | Report abuse |


      this is the most awesome post all day.
      i'm was drinking a rich delicious chocolaty yoohoo when i read it
      and i laughed and yoohoo came out my nose.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:54 pm |
    • Flying Spaghetti Monster

      I DID!

      March 3, 2013 at 5:55 pm |
    • ME II

      @Live4Him,
      Some chemical reactions continue but not the same ones, obviously. For example, brain activity ceases, but bacterial decomposition increases.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:56 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @Live4Him – regarding death and decay...

      What, precisely, is your point?

      March 3, 2013 at 6:13 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @Live4Him – "Is decay a chemical reaction? Yes"

      So is growth. Again, what is your point?

      March 3, 2013 at 6:14 pm |
  16. Over 40,000 denominations of insanity

    Some believe that celibacy is appropriate for certain people, or for certain positions. It's ridiculous. Celibacy is unnatural and will continue to cause problems for the religious institutions that employ it.

    Many of the people from these same institutions advocate against abortion, but don't understand the realistic benefit of the morning after pill or even basic contraception; their unrealistic wishful thinking is causing the death of many at the hands of disease. Realistically, many abortions could be avoided if a morning-after pill would not is not viewed as such an evil option. Many of these same people bring children into the world at a high pace, and then would prefer that the rest of society take over and educate their children in their particular brand of religion when they don't plan well and don't want to violate their beliefs.

    In the U.S. recently we learned of the head of LCMS chastising a minister of that church for participating in a joint service for the victims of the Newtown school shooting.

    One sect calls homosexuality an abomination while the next one in the same denomination is already performing gay marriage.

    One sect, the Westboro Baptist Church believes Americans are being killed at war because America is too kind to "fags".

    One sect believes that Jesus and Satan were brothers and that Christ will return to Jerusalem AND Jackson County, Missouri.

    One sect believes women to be subservient, while another sect in the same denomination promotes equality between the sexes.

    Conflicted right from the very beginning, Christianity continues to splinter and create divisions and more extremism as it goes.

    =================================================
    Has anything improved with Christianity since 200+ years ago?

    Thomas Jefferson, POTUS #3 (from Notes on the State of Virginia):

    Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth.

    James Madison, POTUS #4, chief architect of the U.S. Constitution & the Bill of Rights (from A Memorial and Remonstrance delivered to the Virginia General Assembly in 1785):

    During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution.

    John Adams, POTUS #2 (in a letter to Thomas Jefferson, 09/03/1816):

    I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved – the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced! With the rational respect that is due to it, knavish priests have added prostitutions of it, that fill or might fill the blackest and bloodiest pages of human history.

    Ben Franklin (from a letter to The London Packet, 3 June 1772):

    If we look back into history for the character of present sects in Christianity, we shall find few that have not in their turns been persecutors, and complainers of persecution. The primitive Christians thought persecution extremely wrong in the Pagans, but practised it on one another. The first Protestants of the Church of England, blamed persecution in the Roman church, but practised it against the Puritans: these found it wrong in the Bishops, but fell into the same practice themselves both here and in New England.

    Thomas Paine (from The Age of Reason):

    All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.

    March 3, 2013 at 5:22 pm |
  17. H . D. HARVEY

    A bigot is a bigot, I dont care if he is a follower of Jesus, Yaewah,
    Allah, Buddha, etc. The percentage of racially prejudiced people among the so-called "Christians" is very high in my experience.I was raised among the Southern White religionists and they were not patriotic Americans in any since except economically, but were united 100% against the people described by the "N" word. I feel that most white people in the USA who claim to be very religious are very racially prejudiced against anyone considered of "COLOR" which includes blacks,hispanice etc.

    March 3, 2013 at 5:22 pm |
    • billy

      you are right harve. bigots is bigots. i was raised by a toothless bitter atheist and her biker atheist friends. hated everybody especially the Christians. wow nelly they hated them holy rollers. which they should da.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:32 pm |
    • Mike

      Hi HD: I don't agree. In my opinion, truth by its very nature is narrow. Therefore, truth is bigoted. Jesus said, narrow is the way...Regarding your experience, I'm sorry that it has been limited to one that ha been as negative as you've described it. I'd like you to keep trying. There are a few of us Christians who are loving, caring, compassionate, good natured and dedicated to sharing the love of Jesus in genuine, compassionate service to others. Consider how focused/narrow the love of God is. HIs standard, in stark contrast to being merely "tolerant," is death...FOR your neighbor, not just a condescending ascent to whatever the other person believes. Which of course is the standard Jesus established on the cross of Calvary. Many blessings.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:32 pm |
    • H . D. HARVEY

      I saw an anwer to my entry that "a bigot is a bigot, even if you are a "Christian", his comment basically was that it is ok to be a bigot even if you claim to be a "Christian", well I agree that most are bigots, I just don't think it fits the description of "Christian", I could never be part of any organized religion as their members ar 99.5% hypocrits.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:48 pm |
  18. The_Mick

    Palin, of course, was WAY off base saying the Founding Fathers would base laws on the Bible. The sad thing is that so many are so uninformed they believe her because it sounds good to them. They don't want to hear that Ben Franklin led many young men away from Christianity or that George Washington waited outside while Martha attended church or that Thomas Jefferson wrote a version of the new testament treating Jesus of Nazareth as just a man.

    March 3, 2013 at 5:21 pm |
  19. lolol

    more insecurity from gays and atheists. you guys are living proofs

    March 3, 2013 at 5:20 pm |
    • .

      That is laughable. The biggest insecurity comes from people like you who are afraid of gays. Whatssamatter, little boy? Being gay isn't contagious. Grow up.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:40 pm |
    • lolol

      I couldn't care less about gays. your comment is a farce

      March 3, 2013 at 7:02 pm |
  20. Correctlycenter

    Revelation 20:11-15...

    March 3, 2013 at 5:19 pm |
    • clarity

      Revelation??? Everyone knows that John of Patmos must have been a serious substance abuser to come up with that mess. My goodness.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:21 pm |
    • Answer

      JOHN 3:16.. oh wait..

      Something about Luke! Oh yah that too. LOL

      March 3, 2013 at 5:28 pm |
    • Mike

      Clarity..We are certainly going to see some day.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:34 pm |
    • CorrectlyLeft

      CorrectlyCenter, stop tossing scripture arround as if it were some kind of fact.

      March 3, 2013 at 5:43 pm |
    • Correctlycenter

      Parrot to the left (correctlyleft), parrot to the right (soon?)

      March 3, 2013 at 6:04 pm |
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