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First on CNN: Atheists ratchet up rhetoric, use billboards to attack Republican politicians
March 3rd, 2013
05:00 AM ET

First on CNN: Atheists ratchet up rhetoric, use billboards to attack Republican politicians

By Dan Merica, CNN

Washington (CNN) – An atheist organization known for being provocative plans to take that reputation to the next level this week by putting up seven billboards that call out prominent politicians and religious leaders.

American Atheists plans to target three Republican politicians: former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, former House Speak Newt Gingrich and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum.

The seven signs will go up around Dallas and Austin, Texas.

In one billboard, a picture of Palin is featured on the left, with a quote attributed to her. "We should create law based on the God of the Bible," the quote reads. Underneath the graphic is a tag line "GO GODLESS INSTEAD."

The billboard, however, misquotes Palin. In an interview with Fox News’ Bill O'Reilly, Palin addressed the growth in American secularism by saying America's founding fathers "would create law based on the God of the Bible and the Ten Commandments," not "should."

Each of the billboards has a similar format and includes a pitch for the group’s 50th anniversary convention in Austin.

Santorum is condemned for when he told an Iowa crowd last November that, "our civil laws have to comport with a higher law: God's law," while Gingrich is criticized for a remark he made at a CNN debate on October 18, 2011, in Las Vegas. "How can I trust you with power if you don't pray," Gingrich posited.

Virginia Davis, spokeswoman for Santorum, thanked American Atheists for the publicity.

"At a time when many are trying to remove God from the public square, the senator is appreciative of someone helping him very publicly express his strong belief that we are one nation under God," Davis wrote in an e-mail to CNN.

American Atheists President David Silverman, however, sees the billboards as a way to shame the targets.

"We at American Atheists are shaming these leaders for their bigoted and backwards remarks and attitudes, and conveying a message to today's atheists that we need not take it anymore," Silverman wrote in an e-mail to CNN.

Two religious leaders, the Rev. Robert Jeffress, pastor at the First Baptist Dallas, and Benedict XVI, now the pope emeritus, also are featured on billboards.

Jeffress' billboard includes a quote the pastor said during a 2008 sermon titled, "Gay Is Not OK." "What they [homosexuals] do is filthy," reads the billboard. Under the quote is the phrase "Go Godless Instead" and a rainbow flag, a symbol of gay rights.

This will be the only ad placed in Dallas, featured in a busy stretch of Interstate 30 and only a few miles from Jeffress' large church.

The First Baptist Church of Dallas is a member of the Southern Baptist Convention. Jeffress, who has been in its pulpit since 2007, is no stranger to controversy, including comments about Judiasm and Catholicism. After introducing Texas Gov. Rick Perry at the Values Voter Summit in Washington in October 2011, Jeffress told reporters he believed Mormonism was a cult, expressing a personal position and one held by his denomination. The move was seen as a particular slight to former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, a lifelong Mormon.

The billboard featuring Benedict XVI, who stepped down Thursday, cites a New York Times article entitled, "Vatican Declined to Defrock U.S. Priest Who Abused Boys." "The Church Protected Priests Who Abused Children," reads the billboard.

Silverman says the group plans to spend $25,000 on the billboards, which will go up on Monday and remain up for the rest of March.

"Everyone should be allowed to profess their faith, of course, but that does not shield them from criticism," Silverman wrote. "Everyone has the responsibility to lead moral lives, and 'It's my religion' is not an excuse for bigotry or immorality."

Silverman continued: "Some Americans seem to think that bigotry in the name of religion is somehow permissible. It is not. We hope that the believers of Austin place anti-atheist bigotry in the same category as anti-Semitism or racism - a relic of the past that needs to be jettisoned for all the right reasons."

Six of the billboards will be dispersed around the Austin area, with four placed on high traffic freeways.

This is not the first time American Atheists has used billboards to get its message out.

Last March, the group targeted Muslims and Jews with billboards that called God a "myth" in both Arabic and Hebrew.

In November 2010, the same group posted a billboard around the holiday season that read, "You KNOW it's a Myth. This Season, Celebrate REASON."

Silverman, who has been criticized for this in-your-face atheism, has long defended the tactic, saying that the confrontation is meant to "grow the cause and benefit the country."

"That's why companies buy billboards - to get attention," Silverman wrote.

- Dan Merica

Filed under: Atheism • Belief • Catholic Church • Newt Gingrich • Politics • Pope • Rick Santorum • Sarah Palin

soundoff (3,513 Responses)
  1. sodakhic

    "I'm a comedian" is no excuse for bigotry and immorality".

    March 6, 2013 at 1:14 am |
  2. dobie

    it is all over. he said he would not always strive with man and he's through with the demons on this forum. too late girls. it is all over. cease striving. that's it! it is finished for the garbage heads who are filled to overflowing with satan and sin. the door is now closed for good. we warned you. sorry girls.

    March 5, 2013 at 11:32 pm |
    • Dippy

      Dobie, doesn't your upper-case key work? Or are you just too lazy?

      March 5, 2013 at 11:38 pm |
  3. rob

    The religious nuts in this world, especially the U.S., are getting crazier by the day. We need to rid society of this dangerous vermin.

    March 5, 2013 at 10:46 pm |
    • on the other hand, facts

      Hi Rob,

      I am an atheist, and am in favour of speaking frankly and critically of religion.

      Could you please consider not using this kind of language? I object to calling for a group's extermination in the strongest possible terms, even if you only meant it rhetorically (as I freaking well hope you did).

      March 6, 2013 at 10:46 am |
    • bethany

      Atheists make up their own rules. Anything goes, especially for those here.

      March 6, 2013 at 5:14 pm |
    • hee hee

      actually, Bethany, comments from religious folk are often as bad or worse. Try reading them without bias. One of my favorite things is the utter glee with which they observe that we will be tortured for eternity. Nice one, that.

      As far as "making up the rules" goes, at least we keep them: many studies have shown that non-religious commit less crime than the religious. Check it out if you don't believe me.

      March 6, 2013 at 9:17 pm |
    • Chad

      atheists are, in a word, bizarre..

      Literallly, 9 minutes after claiming theists are worse, he's calling someone names..

      astonishing

      atheists are descendants of vampires.. unable to see their reflection.

      =====
      @hee hee
      actually, Bethany, comments from religious folk are often as bad or worse..
      March 6, 2013 at 9:17 pm

      @hee hee
      Which beliefs are ok to talk about? Just yours, apparently. Cretin.
      March 6, 2013 at 9:26 pm

      March 6, 2013 at 9:37 pm |
    • hee hee

      @Chad,

      You're right. Calling someone a cretin *is* comparable to suggesting genocide or enjoying the thought eternal torture.

      Thanks for the moral lesson! Without people like you, who would hold up standards?

      March 7, 2013 at 9:33 am |
    • Science

      Chad glad they can't clone you yet.

      Better have your god of Isabell hold your hand .

      March 7, 2013 at 9:40 am |
  4. conrad

    the internet will destroy religion via knowledge and fact period

    March 5, 2013 at 9:49 pm |
  5. DOROTHY

    i love akira and divine insight and goat and clownie anvil face and end religion and tommy tommy and all her identies.

    TAKE YOUR MEDS DOROTHY

    March 5, 2013 at 5:27 pm |
    • Duncan

      yo, yo!

      March 5, 2013 at 5:29 pm |
    • .

      Yeah, you oughts take your meds, HeavenSent.

      March 5, 2013 at 7:37 pm |
  6. Quest ion

    Moby,

    I see. So you like that kind stuff then? I meant I'm sure there are some good ideas somewhere. I just found the blog and as I started reading, half or what I FOUND not that I was looking for it, was potty language and trailer park behavior. It is evident there's no moderators here.

    @?
    Is the at-ti-tude language, behavior and conduct that makes culture sub-standard not just a misstype here and there. But I'm sure that's beyond you; is it not?

    March 5, 2013 at 2:42 pm |
    • Akira

      Quest ion, no, there are no live moderators.
      If you find that the Belief Blog isn't to your liking, keep searching.
      Unlikely this blog will change; if the language offends you, there are many blogs that are moderated.
      Complaining about it will do nothing.
      Good luck.

      March 5, 2013 at 3:50 pm |
    • Saraswati

      It's a trade-off. You either have a more restrained environment where people are more polite but less free to speak their minds, of a free-for-all like this where more ideas shoot up with more diversity, but where it can end up being a lot of noise and mudslinging. Which you are interested in is likely going to get down to personality, interests and even mood. I hope you find a forum you're comfortable with.

      March 5, 2013 at 3:56 pm |
  7. SoldierOfConscience

    Atheist example – Pot Pol, Stalin, Mao, Kim Il Sung

    Religious person example – Mother Teresa

    March 5, 2013 at 2:30 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      You realize we could do this all day long? Picking out terrible atheists followed by great atheists followed by horrible christians followed by great christians... How stupid are you?

      March 5, 2013 at 2:32 pm |
    • Answer

      The SOC puppet fails everyday.

      March 5, 2013 at 2:34 pm |
    • EX catholic

      Sorry to burst your bubble SoC but IDOLATRY IS NOT Religion. IDOLATRY is sin a Very Serious Sin at that.

      March 5, 2013 at 2:54 pm |
    • Doobs

      Mother Teresa was a jerk. She consorted with "Baby Doc" Duvalier, took $1.25M in stolen money from Charles Keating, and claimed that it is good for the poor to suffer.

      She never built a state of the art hospital, despite raking in millions in unaccounted for funds. These were deposited in the Vatican's general purpose account, whether is was designated for charity work or not.

      Her clinics provided little more for patients than a cot, they had no strong analgesics even for dying patients, yet when she became ill, she flew on a private jet to some of the most advanced and expensive medical treatment facilities in the world.

      March 5, 2013 at 3:07 pm |
    • conrad

      http://brainz.org/50-most-brilliant-atheists-all-time/

      March 5, 2013 at 9:40 pm |
    • End Religion

      Debunked, refuted and dispelled about 10 times a day (and now going on posted 3 times for SoldierofConscience). None of these characters, whether they were atheist or not, killed in the name of a lack of belief in a god. Some of them suppressed religion as a tool to further the goal of totalitarian control.

      "State-imposed atheism" is a misnomer; there can be no such thing. Imposed irreligion is not atheism. Atheism is only the lack of belief in a god; one can't force people to not believe in a god.

      The actions of Mao, Pol and Joe (who attended seminary) were totalitarian opportunists. They sought total authority and banned religion which would compete with that authority. The pursuit of control over a people was the cause for the bloodshed.

      Although Stalin initially sought to rid Russia of religion, once firmly in office he re-instituted the Russian Orthodox Church and re-opened theological schools. Suppression of religion was a tool not a reason.

      Pol Pot is said to have practiced some Theravada Buddhism (and his Khmer Rouge were radical Buddhists). He studied at a Catholic school in Phnom Pen for 8 years. This mad man targeted not only religion but science, medicine and education. Political dissent was not permitted, with torture a common sentence.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

      Hitler was raised Catholic. In his book Mein Kampf and in public speeches he made statements affirming a belief in Christianity. He called the purge of Jews "positive Christianity." While there is debate over his actual private feelings about the faith, he was a publicly practicing Christian. There exists no known evidence that Hitler was an atheist or agnostic. Again: evidence he was Christian; no evidence he was otherwise.

      Hitler said: "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

      The Reichskonkordat was a treaty signed on 20 July 1933 between the Holy See (Catholic Church) and Nazi Germany, guaranteeing the rights of the Roman Catholic Church in Germany, giving moral legitimacy to the Nazi regime soon after Hitler had acquired dictatorial powers, and placing constraints on Catholic critics of the regime, leading to a muted response by the Church to Nazi policies. Yes, the Catholic Church colluded with Nazis.

      http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?ti.tle=20th_century_atrocities (take dot out of 'title')
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

      March 6, 2013 at 1:25 am |
  8. Quest ion

    I found this blog searching for another one. I noticed that posters don't have to login like in all other blogs and forums that I've seen. Why is that? I meant; how come I don't have to login to post? This lends itself to a lot of abuse and disorderly behavior I seen. Is there any moderator in here at all? I seen a whole lot of hatred and potty mouths, here. Or I should say a lot of potty fingers on potty keyboards. 😦

    March 5, 2013 at 1:57 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      See my response to you below. I don't see it as negative, necessarily.

      March 5, 2013 at 2:04 pm |
    • Quest ion

      Really Moby, you got be kidding! How can potty language from potty mouths or should I say potty fingers on potty keyboards be called a storm of Ideas? That looks just like trailer park subculture.

      March 5, 2013 at 2:11 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Nope, I'm not kidding. If you want to see some really cool ideas then they're out there. If all you want to discover is "potty" because somehow that makes you feel better, then I'm sure you can find plenty of that and ignore the rest. Do as you will.

      March 5, 2013 at 2:13 pm |
    • ?

      "looks just like trailer park subculture."

      And what does saying "I seen" look like?

      March 5, 2013 at 2:14 pm |
    • Salero21

      Well said question!

      Atheists in these blogs are the trailer park's potty mouths, potty fingers on potty keyboards because of potty filled skulls. That’s because they are like a pack of rabid wolves, and a troop of baboons. That’s because they did not advance, develop or improve enough to rise above the level of apes.

      March 5, 2013 at 2:25 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Salero

      Considering that the only things you ever post are hateful bigoted lies, you aren't in any position to talk about anyone else not "advancing".

      March 5, 2013 at 2:27 pm |
    • sam

      It was amusing the first time; now you're just an idiot obsessed with the word 'potty'. Bug off, troll.

      March 5, 2013 at 2:28 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Quest ion, would you say that it's fairly "potty mouthed" to say that atheists have sh!t for brains, as the poster above just claimed? Also, out of the two people responding, here, which has used more "potty mouth" tactics? Thanks.

      March 5, 2013 at 2:28 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Oops. Didn't realize there would be another post between Salero's and mine.

      March 5, 2013 at 2:30 pm |
    • Salero21

      HA HA LOL 😀 😀

      Moby stick,

      God made that happen!

      March 5, 2013 at 2:46 pm |
    • Salero21

      Hawaian,

      Do you care to point when and where did I lie? You're full of hatred, atheist hatred that is and pretend to call me a hater. Speak for yourself!

      March 5, 2013 at 2:50 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Salero

      "Catholic priests are Idolaters they kiss the Pope's ring over and over. They have a lot in common with Atheists who are below the level of apes."

      That statement from you is just plain stupid. You make a false claim with absolutely nothing to back it up, and the ape thing is a constant theme in your posts, yet you never actually demonstrate how it's true. You consistently say that atheists need to "advance", yet never give examples. You compare atheists to baboons, and you do absolutely nothing but reassert this over and over. The inability to actually back anything up is highly dishonest, and saying that Catholics and atheists have a lot in common is a lie, plain and simple.

      March 5, 2013 at 2:59 pm |
    • Akira

      "
      Do you care to point when and where did I lie? You’re full of hatred, atheist hatred that is and pretend to call me a hater. Speak for yourself!"

      This sounds like a lie to me.

      March 5, 2013 at 3:55 pm |
    • Austin

      Salero is just a dumb ass.

      March 5, 2013 at 5:32 pm |
  9. In Other Words

    Atheists are perverts. Sarah Palin is ridiculous, Santorum is a Pope's ring kisser and Gingrich is a liar adulterer.

    March 5, 2013 at 1:43 pm |
    • Salero21

      You got it, indeed they are!!

      March 5, 2013 at 1:48 pm |
    • on the other hand, facts

      If only I could stand above it all like you, and see things so clearly! You, sir, are like a shining beam from a light-house, cutting through the fog. You bring clarity and insight to a morass of nonsense. Thank you for blessing us with the fruits of your alacrity.

      March 6, 2013 at 10:52 am |
  10. Golden calf

    Attention all Lance Armstrong followers!

    The guy who first proposed the Big Bang Theory was a Catholic priest and scientist. Too bad to all you anti-Catholics, it wasn’t your hero Sheldon or Sarah Silverman or Mr. Hollywood Actor who never graduated from high school or Kevin Bacon.

    March 5, 2013 at 12:19 pm |
    • Salero21

      Catholic priests are Idolaters they kiss the Pope's ring over and over. They have a lot in common with Atheists who are below the level of apes. Atheists need to evolve (advance, develop, progress) above the level of apes.

      March 5, 2013 at 1:47 pm |
    • Doobs

      Did you learn anything else about Georges Lemaitre or did you just see that he was a Catholic priest and go, "Oooh, now I've got those nasty atheists!"?

      Lemaitre resented Pope Pius XII's attempts to use his theory as a justification for Creationism. He was a devoted Catholic, but steadfastly maintained that science and religion should remain separate.

      "It was Lemaître's firm belief that scientific endeavour should stand isolated from the religious realm. With specific regard to his Big Bang theory, he commented: 'As far as I can see, such a theory remains entirely outside any metaphysical or religious question.' Lemaître had always been careful to keep his parallel careers in cosmology and theology on separate tracks, in the belief that one led him to a clearer comprehension of the material world, while the other led to a greater understanding of the spiritual realm... ...Not surprisingly, he was frustrated and annoyed by the Pope's deliberate mixing of theology and cosmology. One student who saw Lemaître upon his return from hearing the Pope's address to the Academy recalled him 'storming into class...his usual jocularity entirely missing'." Simon Singh (2010). Big Bang. HarperCollins UK. p. 362.

      Atheists are not threatened by scientists who also happen to follow a religion. Scientists like Lemaitre and Galileo make important discoveries despite of their religious backgrounds, not because of them. In some cases, they pay a high price for it.

      We also understand that Sheldon Cooper is a pretend character on a sitcom, that Sarah Silverman is an actor/comedian, that Hollywood is not a center for anything but entertainment, and that Kevin Bacon looks pretty good coming out of the shower. Okay, that last one is just me.

      March 5, 2013 at 2:19 pm |
  11. Monkey King

    Can't we all just get along? I guess on the Belief Blog the answer is "No!"

    Religious or Atheist it looks like the need to be anonymously nasty to the opposing side is fulfilling some sort of juvenile need in people here. I used to come here to read the two sides and give myself food for thought on the subject. But alas, the D!kw@d effect of internet anonymity is just too strong for people to have a reasonable discussion.

    And we wonder why the world is in such bad shape?

    March 5, 2013 at 12:15 pm |
    • Quest ion

      I noticed that posters don't have to login like in all other blogs and forums that I've seen. This lends itself to a lot of abuse I seen. Is there any moderator in here at all? I seen a whole lot of hatred and potty mouths, here. Or I should say a lot of potty fingers on potty keyboards. 😦

      March 5, 2013 at 1:59 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Pure Wild West, Quest ion. Just storms of ideas, nothing more.

      March 5, 2013 at 2:03 pm |
    • on the other hand, facts

      You're right, the frank exchange of ideas here is trying. *Sniff*.

      Please, stop the carnage, before it is too late!

      March 6, 2013 at 10:54 am |
    • LinCA

      If someone puts forth a bat-shit crazy notion of an imaginary friend and insists that you should conform to his or her interpretation of the fable based on that imaginary friend, wouldn't you speak up?

      I'm all for letting people believe whatever nonsense they want. It is likely impossible to convince everyone, as half the population has an IQ of less than 100, and many will be incapable of comprehending even the simple logic. Fairy tales are easier to understand. But just because a particular fairy tale is popular doesn't mean it is based on reality. Nor does it mean that everyone needs to bend to its rule.

      March 6, 2013 at 11:06 am |
  12. Monkey King

    Can't we all just get along? I guess on the Belief Blog the answer is "No!"

    Religious or Atheist it looks like the need to be anonymously nasty to the opposing side is fulfilling some sort of juvenile need in people here. I used to come here to read the two sides and give myself food for thought on the subject. But alas, the D!ckwad effect of internet anonymity is just too strong for people to have a reasonable discussion.

    And we wonder why the world is in such bad shape?

    March 5, 2013 at 12:09 pm |
    • ME II

      'tis sad... but true.

      Well said.

      March 5, 2013 at 12:14 pm |
    • End Religion

      Maybe we should go back in time and allow human sacrifice. Maybe we should have a few discussions about it. I mean, why can't we all just get along, sacrificers and non-sacrificers? Or maybe at some point we decided it wasn't good for society and we needed to move on, so we no longer have practice human sacrifice and we don't need to re-open discussion bout it.

      Religion had its day. When atheists weren't burned at the stake we tried to discuss it. They've had 2000+ years. Enough is enough. Coddling the childish notion of personal, regional gods is absurd and there is no need for discussion. If you want to leave a door open for some god, great, stay home,shutup and worship in private. Otherwise you are my target for ridicule.

      March 5, 2013 at 12:26 pm |
  13. Golden calf

    The guy who first proposed the Big Bang Theory was a Catholic priest and scientist. Too bad to all you anti-Catholics, it wasn’t your hero Sheldon or Sarah Silverman or Mr. Hollywood Actor who never graduated from high school.

    March 5, 2013 at 12:08 pm |
    • ME II

      .... and refined by a Deist/Jew (Einstein) and confirmed by an Agnostic (Hubble). So what's your point?

      Science is objective and if done correctly religious views are irrelevant.

      March 5, 2013 at 12:21 pm |
    • ME II

      Never mind. Didn't realize you were trolling.

      March 5, 2013 at 12:23 pm |
  14. End Religion

    For me this was more interesting after the introductory arguments. Maybe jump in @42:00 and watch Chad's boyfriend Craig get his testicles crushed in the vice of rationality.

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiJnCQuPiuo&w=640&h=360]

    March 5, 2013 at 11:16 am |
  15. Laurence Ringo

    WOW!! If this is CNN's"BELIEF BLOG",what does the atheist blog sound like? It's simply astonishing the level of ridicule,vitriol,derision,mockery,and pure,unadulterated HATRED being spewed forth on this blog at even the most mildest of religious expression!! What is wrong with atheists and God-haters?? You sound downright pyschotic at times,and far more immoral and insane than some of the misguided believers you occasionally trot out as supposed examples of why you hate religion;I wonder if you even hear yourselves! I shudder to contemplate the fate of believers if any of YOU were in any sort of major political power,or worse,in charge of a dictactorial regime!! You people need to take a deep breath and dial it back a notch;there's little danger of the United States developing into a"theocracy"any time soon;I think The Founding Fathers covered that pretty good,don't you think? As for people like"skytag"and"Religion",just give it a rest,why don't you? You both sound pathetically juvenile and whiningly asinine in your sad little screeds;some of the most brilliant men and women ever to walk the Earth have been life-long believers in God,and tradition continues to this day,men and women who have secured degrees from some of the most famous,most prestigious centers of learning on the planet! Oxford.Rutgers.Cambridge.Princeton.Harvard.Not only that,these individuals have made lasting contributions to the world that are as valuable as any scientific has been;indeed many believers have been and are scientists themselves!! So,before you rush to display your ignorance,perhaps you should do a little actual research instead of blindly echoing whatever nonsense you read on the Internet! Who knows,you might actually learn something!!!-PEACE & LOVE IN CHRIST.

    March 5, 2013 at 10:54 am |
    • End Religion

      WOW!! If this is CNN's"BELIEF BLOG",what does the christian blog sound like? It's simply astonishing the level of ridicule,vitriol,derision,mockery,and pure,unadulterated HATRED being spewed forth on this blog at even the most mildest of non-religious expression!! What is wrong with chritians and God-lovers?? You sound downright pyschotic at times,and far more immoral and insane than some of the misguided non-believers you occasionally trot out as supposed examples of why you love religion;I wonder if you even hear yourselves! I shudder to contemplate the fate of non-believers if any of YOU were in any sort of major political power,or worse,in charge of a dictactorial regime!! You people need to take a deep breath and dial it back a notch. As for people like"Lawrence Ringo",just give it a rest,why don't you? You sound pathetically juvenile and whiningly asinine in your sad little screeds;some of the most brilliant men and women ever to walk the Earth will be life-long believers in the Flying Spaghetti Monster,and tradition continues to this day,men and women who have secured degrees from some of the most famous,most prestigious centers of learning on the planet! Oxford.Rutgers.Cambridge.Princeton.Harvard.Not only that,these individuals have made lasting contributions to the world that are as valuable as any scientific has been;indeed many FSM-believers have been and are scientists themselves!! So,before you rush to display your ignorance,perhaps you should do a little actual research instead of blindly echoing whatever nonsense you read on the Internet! Who knows,you might actually learn something!!!-PEACE & LOVE IN THE SPAGHEDEITY. RAmen!

      March 5, 2013 at 11:21 am |
    • Akira

      I see the purpose of the space bar still escapes Mr. Ringo. He, perhaps, needs to do a little bit of reseach on that.

      March 5, 2013 at 1:52 pm |
    • on the other hand, facts

      @End Religion: 10 to 1 Laurence Ringo does not see how you exposed his double standard.

      good job!

      March 5, 2013 at 2:11 pm |
  16. SisterChromatid

    Hurray the tide is turning! Rational people will no longer be deferring to those who claim to know what some god wants. All those claiming to know anything about gods or afterlives or anything else supernatural are making it up. If something could be known on the subject (including which, if any, immaterial beings are real), then it would be a subject for science. It is not a virtue to pretend to know things you do not know.

    Science demonstrates that gods are created in the minds of those who believe in gods: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2009/11/30/creating-god-in-ones-own-image/

    It's time for humanity to move beyond the myths of their ancestors now that we have science– the most successful method we have for getting at the truth that is the same for everybody no matter what they believe! Real things should be distinguishable from imaginary things and human misperception when tested by science. Gods/souls/demons/angels are not.

    March 5, 2013 at 10:07 am |
  17. yo

    i know. i know. i understand. i do

    the meds. that's the key.

    and, that was much better. i see signs the prescriptions are definitely making a difference. take them as prescribed!

    "paranoid schizophrenics have more reasons to be hopeful that they can experience fewer devastating, painful and disabling symptoms than at any other time. science has worked wonders developing mind-altering drugs, like,

    your doctor should be familiar with these
    1. Aripiprazole
    2. Clozapine
    3. Olanzapine
    4. Quetiapine
    5. Risperidone

    keep it up. god bless you

    March 5, 2013 at 3:17 am |
    • Science

      Hey yo

      No God required

      Researchers Describe First 'Functional HIV Cure' in an Infant

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130304105656.htm

      Peace

      Please provide a picture of your god from 2013 .

      Don't worry it won't melt the camera. (smirk)

      March 5, 2013 at 4:22 am |
    • .

      Lol. Lol. Lol. Lol. Lol. Physician, heal thyself.
      God bless.

      March 5, 2013 at 9:05 am |
  18. Golden calf

    Sarah Silverman's attachment to the atheist movement makes it so much lamer. What credibility does she have? She makes a living telling jokes and offending people. Ooh! Epic!

    March 5, 2013 at 1:07 am |
    • Doobs

      What does Sarah Silverman have to do with anything?

      March 5, 2013 at 2:10 am |
    • skytag

      Doobs is right. What kind of fool would judge atheists as a group by the behavior of Sarah Silverman?

      March 5, 2013 at 2:48 am |
    • .

      Apparently, every person named 'Silverman' is obviously Sarah. Idiot.

      March 5, 2013 at 9:13 am |
  19. Theron

    Dear religious people – why are do so many of you feel threatened when the non-religious make the case for their ideas? There are certainly a whole lot of pro-religious billboards out there. Don't you believe in the free market place of ideas?

    March 5, 2013 at 12:10 am |
    • Will

      Yes but do religious billboards have nancy pelosi, or any non believers quotes on them? No they serve their own purpose. Make an atheist billboard, but why fault someone with faith based morals?

      March 5, 2013 at 12:14 am |
    • Religion is

      Superstition!

      Because they are at fault, Will. Simple as that.

      March 5, 2013 at 12:33 am |
    • Kev

      I don't feel threatened by the ads, but I also do not recall a whole lot of pro-religious ads or billboards that ridicule other peoples beliefs either.

      March 5, 2013 at 12:43 am |
    • skytag

      Will, many of us have a problem with religious people wanting to base law and government on their brand of religion.

      March 5, 2013 at 2:50 am |
    • skytag

      They feel threatened because deep down they know they don't have a shred of evidence that anything they believe related to God is true. They want their religious beliefs to prevail over the views of nonbelievers as well as people who have different religious beliefs, but they know they can't produce a compelling argument for that.

      March 5, 2013 at 2:55 am |
    • End Religion

      Kev, we'll forgive your retarded nature, though I'm perplexed how you can manage to post here yet not be able to use google.
      http://www.cafemom.com/answers/658320/What_do_you_think_of_these_Christian_billboards

      March 5, 2013 at 7:55 am |
    • Kev

      @ End Religion, so which churches claimed responsibility for the billboards shown on the site you referenced? Those ads appear to come from groups not unlike the group placing the billboards ridiculing other peoples beliefs. Even the Catholic come back home ads aren't ridiculing the beliefs of other faiths.

      March 5, 2013 at 12:37 pm |
    • End Religion

      @kev: "which churches claimed responsibility for the billboards shown on the site you referenced?"

      How would I know?

      ***
      "Those ads appear to come from groups not unlike the group placing the billboards ridiculing other peoples beliefs. Even the Catholic come back home ads aren't ridiculing the beliefs of other faiths."

      Beats me. You said, "I also do not recall a whole lot of pro-religious ads or billboards that ridicule other peoples beliefs either," and I showed you some after googling for 3.2 seconds. You didn't mention that I needed to research the churches involved. Maybe you can do that and get back to me in a few weeks with your research.

      March 5, 2013 at 1:50 pm |
  20. Will

    17 After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed:

    “Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. 2 For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. 3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. 4 I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do. 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

    Jesus Prays for His Disciples

    6 “I have revealed you[a] to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word. 7 Now they know that everything you have given me comes from you. 8 For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me. 9 I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those you have given me, for they are yours. 10 All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has come to me through them. 11 I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of[b] your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one. 12 While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by[c] that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled.

    13 “I am coming to you now, but I say these things while I am still in the world, so that they may have the full measure of my joy within them. 14 I have given them your word and the world has hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world. 15 My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one. 16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of it. 17 Sanctify them by[d] the truth; your word is truth. 18 As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world. 19 For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified.

    Jesus Prays for All Believers

    20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— 23 I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.

    24 “Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world.

    25 “Righteous Father, though the world does not know you, I know you, and they know that you have sent me. 26 I have made you[e] known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them.”

    March 5, 2013 at 12:10 am |
    • Religion is

      Superstition!

      Give us a break, Will. We really don't need any more biblebabblers on here. Nobody reads that drivel anyway.

      March 5, 2013 at 12:35 am |
    • skytag

      Posting Bible verses makes you look pathetic. They prove nothing to people who don't accept the Bible as anything more than a work of fiction and it makes you look as if you can't articulate your own thoughts.

      March 5, 2013 at 2:57 am |
    • on the other hand, facts

      And lo, though ye walketh in the path of righteousness, and quoteth the texts, your exhortations are but empty, and thou are but a ninny.

      March 5, 2013 at 10:27 am |
    • on the other hand, facts

      Actually, it's kind of funny. Will thinks that those verses are so powerful that simply quoting them will move us.

      It's a bit like medieval churches. They can be very beautiful, and with those wonderful organs and choirs and incense, it must have had a powerful effect on the minds of peasants who had never left their tiny region of the world. The problem is that now many people have been in cathedrals, ancient temples, mosques, museums, etc. So cathedrals lose their unique power to move, among people who've been around a bit.

      My point is: there are many such texts, and a lot of beautiful language, and what's above is not even the best that's out there. So Will: read some other things too, ok?

      March 5, 2013 at 10:39 am |
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