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Fake bishop busted and booted from Vatican
Ralph Napierski, left, sidles up, shakes hands and smiles with Cardinal Sergio Sebiastiana -- before getting the Vatican boot.
March 5th, 2013
01:57 PM ET

Fake bishop busted and booted from Vatican

By Jessica Ravitz, CNN

(CNN) – Move over, Tareq and Michaele Salahi, the Virginia ex-couple who famously – or infamously – crashed President Obama’s first White House state dinner. There’s a new impostor posing with dignitaries, and he set his sights on an even more coveted gathering.

Meet Ralph Napierski, a German self-declared bishop who reportedly called himself “Basilius,” said he was with the nonexistent “Italian Orthodox Church” and set out to infiltrate a Monday meeting of cardinals at the Vatican.

The fake bishop donned a purple sash (really a scarf) over his vestments and mingled with cardinals and others who’d flown in from around the globe ahead of the conclave to pick a new pope. He smiled wide and posed for cameras while shaking hands with Cardinal Sergio Sebiastiana. He tried to blend in.

But before he could get into Paul VI Hall for a top-secret meeting, the Telegraph reported, Napierski was nabbed and booted by Swiss Guards. Seems the disguise, which was a little off, gave him away. The cassock was too short, the crucifix around his neck a bit different, the purple scarf conspicuous against all the red. The fedora on his head, against all the skullcaps, probably didn’t help.

Napierski, who disputes the media reports, apparently runs several websites, including one dedicated to Jesus Yoga. In a rambling blog called Corpus Dei, which he describes as a “Catholic order after episcopal law,” he writes that he is “a slave and apostle like St. Paul” and “is fighting the Heresy and false movements inside the Roman Catholic Church.”

He also claims to be an “internet hacker and activist” and an inventor who came up with “a system to enable persons to control computers with the Power of thoughts.”

What he was thinking on Monday at the Vatican is unknown. But the International Business Times said he told reporters “that he believed Catholic bishops were wrong to move priests who had been accused of sexual abuses around various parishes, prompting the Daily Mail to describe him as a ‘child abuse protester.’ ”

CNN reached out to Napierski on Tuesday, hoping to hear his side of the story. In an e-mail response he sent late in the day, he provided a link to a blog entry in which he denied what had been reported. He titled the entry, " 'Conclavebuster' Bishop Ralph Napierski and The Vatican Scandal that never happened - Truth revealed!"

He claimed that he was simply there in his capacity as a Catholic bishop and visited, with three of his priests, to announce the creation of the Congregation of Our Lady of Refuge, which he said he founded. He had a "wonderful small talk" with the cardinal he was photographed with, he wrote, adding that he even returned to the Vatican Monday night - after seeing the media reports - to get confirmation that he hadn't been kicked out.

German press, however, said Napierski cannot be trusted.

Spiegel Online reported on Tuesday that Napierski is "known among German clerics as something of a troublemaker." He has a history of "posing as a priest with church officials and politicians, and he also made an appearance at Berlin's Venus erotica trade fair."

"He does not work with any of our institutions in any way," Berlin Catholic diocese spokesman Matthias Kopp told Bild Zeitung, a German daily tabloid, according to Spiegel Online. "Napierski is 'self-aggrandizing,' frequently pens angry letters, and preaches about sex, the paper reports. ... Kopp told the paper that his behavior was 'unacceptable.' "

- CNN Writer/Producer

Filed under: Catholic Church • Vatican

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  1. LIGHT

    The world now is ruling by the antichrist but no one wants to believe.

    Especially US is completely under the antichrist control because he is ruling the world thru it.

    CNN is one of his official channels which through he can control the brains and concepts of people.

    He planned for the 9/11 attacks and they said Muslims did it, and as usual people believe whatever they are saying.

    See now how he can play with your brains and eyes using numbers,letters and words to know what is going on and what CNN is:

    Take a look on the CNN logo and read it upside and down you will get............. MD.......it means (M)onth and (D)ay.

    Read it from left to right you will get.............. 911.

    Read it from right to left and be ready for the shoke as you will get...............WTC......... read the T upside down.

    Please tell those who are sleeping to awake before it is too late.

    June 8, 2013 at 9:04 am |
  2. WhatsamattaU

    You're all very strange. I want to know if this guy works for Howard Stern.

    March 13, 2013 at 1:52 pm |
  3. kevobx

    The truth sets you free. *Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? *Acts 13:9-11 Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him, And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, and thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord? And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand. *Psalm 109:6 Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand. *John 8:44 Ye are your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. *Job 9:24 The earth is given into the hand of the wicked: he covereth the faces of the judges thereof, if not, where, and who is he? *John 9:9 Some said, This is he: others said, He is like him: but he said, I am he.

    March 11, 2013 at 7:03 pm |
  4. kevobx

    The entire world is shut up! *Genesis 47:7 And Joseph brought in Jacob his father, and set him before Pharaoh: and Jacob blessed Pharaoh. *Jeremiah 4:28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black: (How can the heavens be dark or even in darkness? Why did the world rent Christ face with painting? Thou is white; Thee is black: *Jeremiah 4:30 And when thou art spoiled, what wilt thou do? Though thou clothest thyself with crimson, though thou deckest thee with ornaments of gold, though thou rentest thy face with painting, in vain shalt thou make thyself fair; thy lovers will despise thee, they will seek thy life. *Esther 8:16 The Jews had light, and gladness, and joy and honour. *Isaiah 49:6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth. Matthew 24:30 and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. *Acts 13:29 And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre. *Acts 5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree. *Revelation 22:2 and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. *Exodus 15:26 for I am the Lord that healeth thee.

    March 11, 2013 at 4:43 pm |
  5. kevobx

    The coming of Christ's kingdom. Do not be angred like them. When grace and truth is buried, the world becomes weak and the people faint from weariness. Ask them what are people really sacrificing, the Most High does accept rituals neither does he enjoy feasts. *Isaiah 1:13-14 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting. Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them. *John 11:56-57 Then sought they for Jesus, and spake among themselves, as they stood in the temple, What think ye, that he will not come to the feast? Now both the chief priests and the Pharisees had given a commandment, that, if any man knew where he were, he should shew it, that they might take him. *Proverbs 21:3 To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the Lord than sacrifice. *Psalm 49:12 Nevertheless man being in honour abideth not: he is like the beasts that perish.

    March 11, 2013 at 3:46 pm |
  6. kevobx

    Joseph rules Egypt, he has the ring! The real truth. *Genesis. 41:55 And when all the land of Egypt was famished, the people cried to Pharaoh for bread: and Pharaoh said unto all the Egyptians, Go unto Joseph; what he saith to you, do. *Genesis 42:18 And Joseph said unto them the third day, This do, and live; for I fear God: *Genesis 47:7 And Joseph brought in Jacob his father, and set him before Pharaoh: and Jacob blessed Pharaoh. *Genesis 49:33 And when Jacob had made an end of commanding his sons, he gathered up his feet into the bed, and yielded up the ghost, and was gathered unto his people. *Matthew 27:50 Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. *Psalm 77:15 Thou hast with thine arm redeemed thy people, the sons of Jacob and Joseph. Selah. *2nd Kings 14:7 He slew of Edom in the valley of salt ten thousand, and took Selah by war, and called the name of it Joktheel unto this day. *Malachi 3:6 For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. *Mark 14:62 And Jesus said, I am: *Exodus 15:15 Then the dukes of Edom shall be amazed; the mighty men of Moab, trembling shall take hold upon them; all the inhabitants of Canaan shall melt away. *Psalm 83:6 The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes; *Genesis 27:32 And Esau said, Behold, I am at the point to die: and what profit shall this birthright do to me? (Hebrews 12:17)

    March 11, 2013 at 3:12 pm |
    • Dude?

      Austin
      @kevobx. Here is the first response to one of your main assertions , about the term, "I am black " referring to Jeremiah verse. And it would not bother me anyway, God has many promises that He will keep, does he not have a plan for Israel?

      Here is Strongs concordance , for thenHebrew word for black, and the translation possibilities. I do not see any interpretation from the Hebrew indicating that this refers to skin, rather a mood or emotional condition.

      qadar: to be dark
      Original Word: קָדַר
      Part of Speech: Verb
      Transliteration: qadar
      Phonetic Spelling: (kaw-dar')
      Short Definition: mourning

      Word Origin
      a prim. root
      Definition
      to be dark
      NASB Translation
      become dark (1), dark (1), darken (2), grew black (1), grow dark (2), mourn (3), mourning (6), sit (1), turbid (1).

      קָדַר verb be dark (dull-coloured, compare Arabic be dirty (on = ד see NöZMG xl (1886), 729); Late Hebrew Hiph`il (of face) shew gloom; ᵑ7J קְדַר be dark); —

      Qal Perfect consecutive וְקָדַר Micah 3:6; 1singular קָדַרְתִּי Jeremiah 8:21, etc.; Participle קֹדֵר Psalm 35:14 +; plural קֹדְרִים Job 5:11; Job 6:16; — be dark, of sky Jeremiah 4:28 (leaden-coloured, as with clouds, see Hithpa`el), of sun and moon Joel 2:10; Joel 4:15; figurative of lack of revelation from ׳י, עֲלֵיהֶם הַיּוֺם ׳וְק Micah 3:6; of turbid stream Job 6:16; figurative of mourning (probably be squalid, of neglected person and dress of mourner, compare 2 Samuel 19:25) Jeremiah 8:21; Jeremiah 14:2 (לָאָרֶץ, metaphor of gates); Job 5:11; Job 30:28 (בְּלֹא חַמָּה), Psalm 35:14; Psalm 38:7; Psalm 42:10; Psalm 43:2.

      Hiph`il 1. darken: Perfect1singular consecutive וְהִקְדַּרְתִּי Ezekiel 32:7 (object stars), compare Imperfect1singular suffix אַקְדִּירֵם עָלֶיךָ Ezekiel 32:8.

      2 cause to mourn וָאַקְדִּר עָלָיו לְבָנוֺן Ezekiel 31:15.

      Hithpa`el Perfect3plural וְהַשָּׁמַיִם הִתְקַדְּרוּ עָבִים 1 Kings 18:45 and the heavens grew dark with clouds.

      be blackish, be make darken, heavily, cause to mourn

      A primitive root; to be ashy, i.e. Dark-colored; by implication, to mourn (in sackcloth or sordid garments) – be black(-ish), be (make) dark(-en), X heavily, (cause to) mourn.

      אַקְדִּירֵ֖ם אקדירם הִֽתְקַדְּרוּ֙ הַקֹּדְרִ֥ים הקדרים התקדרו וְ֝קֹדְרִ֗ים וְהִקְדַּרְתִּ֖י וְקָדְר֥וּ וְקָדַ֥ר וָאַקְדִּ֤ר ואקדר והקדרתי וקדר וקדרו וקדרים קָדְר֣וּ קָדַ֕רְתִּי קָדָ֑רוּ קָדָ֔רוּ קֹדֵ֣ר קֹדֵ֥ר קדר קדרו קדרתי ’aq·dî·rêm ’aqdîrêm akdiRem hakkodeRim haq·qō·ḏə·rîm haqqōḏərîm hiṯ·qad·də·rū hitkaddeRu hiṯqaddərū kaDarti kaDaru kadeRu koDer qā·ḏā·rū qā·ḏar·tî qā·ḏə·rū qāḏartî qāḏārū qāḏərū qō·ḏêr qōḏêr vaakDir vehikdarTi vekaDar vekadeRu vekodeRim wā’aqdir wā·’aq·dir wə·hiq·dar·tî wə·qā·ḏar wə·qā·ḏə·rū wə·qō·ḏə·rîm wəhiqdartî wəqāḏar wəqāḏərū wəqōḏərîm

      Strong's Hebrew 6937
      17 Occurrences

      ’aq·dî·rêm — 1 Occ.
      haq·qō·ḏə·rîm — 1 Occ.
      hiṯ·qad·də·rū — 1 Occ.
      qā·ḏar·tî — 1 Occ.
      qā·ḏā·rū — 2 Occ.
      qā·ḏə·rū — 1 Occ.
      qō·ḏêr — 5 Occ.
      wā·’aq·dir — 1 Occ.
      wə·hiq·dar·tî — 1 Occ.
      wə·qā·ḏar — 1 Occ.
      wə·qā·ḏə·rū — 1 Occ.
      wə·qō·ḏə·rîm — 1 Occ.

      1 Kings 18:45
      BIB: כֹּ֗ה וְהַשָּׁמַ֙יִם֙ הִֽתְקַדְּרוּ֙ עָבִ֣ים וְר֔וּחַ
      NAS: the sky grew black with clouds
      KJV: that the heaven was black with clouds
      INT: such the sky grew clouds and wind
      Job 5:11
      BIB: שְׁפָלִ֣ים לְמָר֑וֹם וְ֝קֹדְרִ֗ים שָׂ֣גְבוּ יֶֽשַׁע׃
      NAS: those who are lowly, And those who mourn are lifted
      KJV: those that be low; that those which mourn may be exalted
      INT: are lowly high mourn are lifted to safety

      Job 6:16
      BIB: הַקֹּדְרִ֥ים מִנִּי־ קָ֑רַח
      NAS: Which are turbid because of ice
      KJV: Which are blackish by reason of the ice,
      INT: are turbid because of ice

      Job 30:28
      BIB: קֹדֵ֣ר הִ֭לַּכְתִּי בְּלֹ֣א
      NAS: I go about mourning without
      KJV: I went mourning without the sun:
      INT: mourning go without

      Psalm 35:14
      BIB: כַּאֲבֶל־ אֵ֝֗ם קֹדֵ֥ר שַׁחֽוֹתִי׃
      NAS: I bowed down mourning, as one who sorrows
      KJV: I bowed down heavily, as one that mourneth
      INT: one A mother mourning bowed

      Psalm 38:6
      BIB: כָּל־ הַ֝יּ֗וֹם קֹדֵ֥ר הִלָּֽכְתִּי׃
      NAS: bowed down; I go mourning all day
      KJV: I go mourning all the day
      INT: all day mourning go

      Psalm 42:9
      BIB: שְׁכַ֫חְתָּ֥נִי לָֽמָּה־ קֹדֵ֥ר אֵלֵ֗ךְ בְּלַ֣חַץ
      NAS: do I go mourning because of the oppression
      KJV: me? why go I mourning because of the oppression
      INT: forgotten Why mourning go of the oppression

      Psalm 43:2
      BIB: זְנַ֫חְתָּ֥נִי לָֽמָּה־ קֹדֵ֥ר אֶתְהַלֵּ֗ךְ בְּלַ֣חַץ
      NAS: do I go mourning because of the oppression
      KJV: why go I mourning because of the oppression
      INT: rejected Why mourning go of the oppression

      Jeremiah 4:28
      BIB: תֶּאֱבַ֣ל הָאָ֔רֶץ וְקָדְר֥וּ הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם מִמָּ֑עַל
      NAS: above be dark, Because
      KJV: above be black: because I have spoken
      INT: shall mourn the earth be dark and the heavens above

      Jeremiah 8:21
      BIB: עַמִּ֖י הָשְׁבָּ֑רְתִּי קָדַ֕רְתִּי שַׁמָּ֖ה הֶחֱזִקָֽתְנִי׃
      NAS: I am broken; I mourn, dismay
      KJV: am I hurt; I am black; astonishment
      INT: of my people I am broken mourn dismay has taken

      Jeremiah 14:2
      BIB: וּשְׁעָרֶ֥יהָ אֻמְלְל֖וּ קָדְר֣וּ לָאָ֑רֶץ וְצִוְחַ֥ת
      NAS: languish; They sit on the ground
      KJV: thereof languish; they are black unto the ground;
      INT: gates languish sit the ground and the cry

      Ezekiel 31:15
      BIB: מַ֣יִם רַבִּ֑ים וָאַקְדִּ֤ר עָלָיו֙ לְבָנ֔וֹן
      NAS: up, and I made Lebanon mourn for it, and all
      KJV: and I caused Lebanon to mourn for him, and all the trees
      INT: waters and many mourn account Lebanon

      Ezekiel 32:7
      BIB: בְכַבּֽוֹתְךָ֙ שָׁמַ֔יִם וְהִקְדַּרְתִּ֖י אֶת־ כֹּֽכְבֵיהֶ֑ם
      NAS: the heavens and darken their stars;
      KJV: the stars thereof dark; I will cover
      INT: and when extinguish the heavens and darken their stars the sun

      Ezekiel 32:8
      BIB: אוֹר֙ בַּשָּׁמַ֔יִם אַקְדִּירֵ֖ם עָלֶ֑יךָ וְנָתַ֤תִּי
      NAS: in the heavens I will darken over
      KJV: of heaven will I make dark over thee, and set
      INT: lights the heavens will darken over and will set

      Joel 2:10
      BIB: שֶׁ֤מֶשׁ וְיָרֵ֙חַ֙ קָדָ֔רוּ וְכוֹכָבִ֖ים אָסְפ֥וּ
      NAS: and the moon grow dark And the stars
      KJV: and the moon shall be dark, and the stars
      INT: the sun and the moon grow and the stars lose

      Joel 3:15
      BIB: שֶׁ֥מֶשׁ וְיָרֵ֖חַ קָדָ֑רוּ וְכוֹכָבִ֖ים אָסְפ֥וּ
      NAS: and moon grow dark And the stars
      KJV: and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars
      INT: the sun and moon grow and the stars lose

      Micah 3:6
      BIB: עַל־ הַנְּבִיאִ֔ים וְקָדַ֥ר עֲלֵיהֶ֖ם הַיּֽוֹם׃
      NAS: And the day will become dark over
      KJV: and the day shall be dark over them.
      INT: over the prophets will become over and the day

      17 Occurrences

      Strong's Numbers

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  7. Quest ion

    Why was he not wearing a Fedora hat?

    March 8, 2013 at 1:27 pm |
    • Quest ion

      If these men can be deceived so easily then; then in what else have they been deceived?
      Who deceived these men?
      How were they so deceived?
      Just asking.

      March 9, 2013 at 10:14 am |
  8. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    March 8, 2013 at 7:41 am |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!

      March 8, 2013 at 11:00 am |
    • Really?

      "Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things"

      That's why the data has shown that atheists have happier and healthier lives than conservative Christians. Your post is built on a lie.

      March 8, 2013 at 11:15 am |
    • WhatsamattaU

      Can you provide evidence that what you're saying is credible?

      March 13, 2013 at 2:23 pm |
    • Science

      Leave a Reply to Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      good place for you to learn something......TROLL......how old are they ?

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/news/earth_climate/environmental_science/

      Three-Billion-Year-Old Microfossils Include Plankton

      June 6, 2013 — Spindle-shaped inclusions in three-billion-year-old rocks are microfossils of plankton that probably inhabited the oceans around the globe during that time, according to an international team of researchers.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/06/130606155123.htm

      June 8, 2013 at 9:01 am |
  9. Austin

    Moby, all spirits are eternal. God was so furious with the fallen angels that they received a stiff punishment. You are free, and he hates it that people choose death and sin over life and eternal life. He made it simple and atoned for your flesh. He doesn't hate you. Why do you say he represents evil , when he atoned for all life and it didn't turn out perfect? Is life so bad that you hate God? do you hate
    God simply because of the idea of hell? That means you hate hell.

    March 7, 2013 at 10:51 pm |
    • Austin

      No clue how this got here on this blog.

      March 7, 2013 at 10:52 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      I don't hate god; I don't believe your god exists, although some sort of higher power might exist. I don't think that any being who would allow a place of eternal torture to exist is "good." Your god, if he exists, is evil. Your god is far too stupid and childish for me to consider seriously, but if he happens to exist, I feel sorry for him because he's so shallow and disgusting as to think hell (among other stupid stuff) is a good idea.

      March 7, 2013 at 10:54 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      I see all.

      March 7, 2013 at 10:54 pm |
    • Austin

      Moby Schtick, You really ate hell!

      No that is serious potential! Seriously, you have a ton of potential because you are so honest.

      March 8, 2013 at 1:17 am |
  10. EX catholic

    They are all Fakes, ALL of them without exception.

    March 7, 2013 at 1:21 pm |
  11. Floodgate

    Poor Cardinal Sergio Sebiastiana – he probably didn't pay any attention to the sham bishop's costume. Someone needs to get a restraining order against this fake. He could be mentally unbalanced.

    March 7, 2013 at 12:45 pm |
  12. clarity

    Some believe that celibacy is appropriate for certain people, or for certain positions. It's ridiculous. Celibacy is unnatural and will continue to cause problems for the religious institutions that employ it.

    Many of the people from these same institutions advocate against abortion, but don't understand the realistic benefit of the morning after pill or even basic contraception; their unrealistic wishful thinking is causing the death of many at the hands of disease. Realistically, many abortions could be avoided if a morning-after pill were not viewed as such an evil option. Many of these same people bring children into the world at a high pace, and then would prefer that the rest of society take over and educate their children in their particular brand of religion when they don't plan well.

    In the U.S. recently we learned of the head of LCMS chastising a minister of that church for participating in a joint service for the victims of the Newtown school shooting.

    One sect calls homosexuality an abomination while the next one in the same denomination is already performing gay marriage.

    One sect, the Westboro Baptist Church believes Americans are being killed at war because America is too kind to "fags".

    One sect believes that Jesus and Satan were brothers and that Christ will return to Jerusalem AND Jackson County, Missouri.

    One sect believes women to be subservient, while another sect in the same denomination promotes equality between the sexes.

    Conflicted right from the very beginning, Christianity continues to splinter and create divisions and more extremism as it goes.

    =================================================
    Has anything improved with Christianity since 200+ years ago?

    Thomas Jefferson, POTUS #3 (from Notes on the State of Virginia):

    Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth.

    James Madison, POTUS #4, chief architect of the U.S. Constitution & the Bill of Rights (from A Memorial and Remonstrance delivered to the Virginia General Assembly in 1785):

    During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution.

    John Adams, POTUS #2 (in a letter to Thomas Jefferson, 09/03/1816):

    I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved – the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced! With the rational respect that is due to it, knavish priests have added prostitutions of it, that fill or might fill the blackest and bloodiest pages of human history.

    Ben Franklin (from a letter to The London Packet, 3 June 1772):

    If we look back into history for the character of present sects in Christianity, we shall find few that have not in their turns been persecutors, and complainers of persecution. The primitive Christians thought persecution extremely wrong in the Pagans, but practised it on one another. The first Protestants of the Church of England, blamed persecution in the Roman church, but practised it against the Puritans: these found it wrong in the Bishops, but fell into the same practice themselves both here and in New England.

    Thomas Paine (from The Age of Reason):

    All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.
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    March 7, 2013 at 9:30 am |
  13. kevobx

    Notice the Satanists love calling people nuts, or even crazy but they do not have the heart to call the most high God a liar. Grace and truth, love truth hate opinions. (*Job 32:11*)

    March 6, 2013 at 2:22 pm |
    • Felix Sinclair

      Prove your god is real. If he appears to me and claims to be good I'll call him a liar.

      Next.

      March 6, 2013 at 2:36 pm |
    • Akira

      Wow. I've never met any satanists at all, ever. I've never seen any post here, either. Have you some special vision that can discern them, kevbx?

      March 6, 2013 at 7:38 pm |
    • End Religion

      Oh, and your doped up god is a lying bastard.

      March 7, 2013 at 4:15 am |
  14. mattincinci

    church of freaks

    March 6, 2013 at 1:24 pm |
  15. kevobx

    What made Esau sell his birthrights away to his younger brother Jacob? For lent, that is lentils and beans. Why did Esau, not tell his father Isaac what he had done with his birthrights? But instead Esau cried out for more blessings (*Hebrews 12:17*) Rebekah use deception against her husband Isaac, and told Jacob exactly what to do. Eventually, Jacob the plain man: his sons went into slavery and Joseph ruled in Egypt with Pharaoh's ring (Deuteronomy 28:68) *Exodus 34:19 All that openeth the matrix is mine; (Four hundred years *Genesis 15:13-14*) Four hundred years (Acts 7:6-7*)

    March 6, 2013 at 12:13 pm |
    • End Religion

      Hey ya crazy bastard, you can't sneak through without saying 'hi'!

      March 6, 2013 at 12:17 pm |
  16. clarity

    So has anyone heard when this new Sacha Baron Cohen movie is due out? When I first saw the picture, I thought this was all about the goofy one in red.

    March 6, 2013 at 9:20 am |
    • Akira

      Notice CNN corrected their mistake...calling him a bishop instead of a cardinal. Good job.

      And I agree, clarity; SBC would be all over this, lol...

      March 6, 2013 at 11:42 am |
  17. Colin

    They knew he was a fake when they waved a picture of a naked altar boy in front of him and he DID NOT get an erection.

    March 6, 2013 at 9:00 am |
  18. kevobx

    Remember, Esau sold away his birthrights to his younger brother Jacob for lent, that is lentils and beans. Esau did not tell his father Isaac, what he had done with his birthrights either. Esau cried out with tears for more blessings. (Hebrews 12:19) Jacob deception came in the way of his mother Rebekah, to deceive her husband Isaac. Eventually, Jacob is the plain man but his sons were cursed into slave ships. And Joseph ruled in Egypt. (Deuteronomy 28:68) *Exodus 34:19 All that openeth the matrix is mine; *Genesis 15:13-14 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years; And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance. *Acts 7:6-7 And God spake on this wise, That his seed should sojourn in a strange land; and that they should bring them into bondage, and entreat them evil four hundred years. And the nation to whom they shall be in bondage will I judge, said God: and after that shall they come forth, and serve me in this place.

    March 6, 2013 at 8:29 am |
    • End Religion

      Again, the God of Israel is fiction. All is Created and Given by the LOVING Spaghedeity. Look at the historicity of the empty colander, proof that He was boiled for your sins, probably prefers the colour red, and is Risen to His Heavenly Father's Kingdom.

      What is particularly profound proof that FSM is greater than your fictional God is that yours is only triune in nature. FSM is made of infinite dimensions. he is Son, Father, Holy Noodle and so much more! He is not limited like your god. FSM can also be Earth, Wind and Fire (the elements AND the band!)' He is Penne and Fusilli; He is every atom and spinning electron; he is vapor, water, ice and marmalade. ALL HAIL OUR LORD FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER!!!

      March 6, 2013 at 8:42 am |
    • meifumado

      You know your insane if you believe that stuff.

      March 6, 2013 at 10:28 am |
    • OTOH

      kev,

      It sounds like you must be lonely in the Outer Banks at this time of year...

      March 6, 2013 at 12:20 pm |
  19. kevobx

    Did not Christ tell Satan to get behind thee? Where he went, the people could not see him, because the truth is not in them. This is why more grace is given. *Numbers 24:17 I shall see him, but not now: I shall behold him, but not nigh: there shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Sceptre shall rise out of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all the children of Sheth. *Psalm 83:5-6 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee: The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes; *Jeremiah 11:9 And the Lord said unto me, A conspiracy is found among the men of Judah, and among the inhabitants of Jerusalem. *Obadiah 7 All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, and prevailed against thee; they that eat thy bread have laid a wound under thee: there is none understanding in him. (Thou is the white man Esau. And thee is the black man Jacob. The two nations) *Matthew 6:11 Give us this day our daily bread.

    March 6, 2013 at 5:25 am |
    • End Religion

      "The truth is that the [Flying Spaghetti Monster] is hidden all around us. And He's left clues like Italian-style bread crumbs to show us the path to His Eternal Noodliness. He's in our language—every time someone tells you to use your "noodle" they're unknowingly directing you to turn to Him for guidance. And whenever someone talks about a "consPiracy," they're just invoking the mischievous nature of Him and His Chosen People, the Pirates."
      - Gospel of FSM (no racism required!)

      March 6, 2013 at 5:29 am |
  20. kevobx

    God is he. Satan him even? *Psalm 109:6 Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand. *Micah 5:12-13 And I will cut off witchcrafts out of thine hand; and thou shalt have no more soothsayers: Thy graven images also will I cut off, and thy standing images out of the midst of thee; and thou shalt no more worship the work of thine hands. *James 2:5 Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him? *Isaiah 53:9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violience, neither was any deceit in his mouth. *Micah 6:12 For the rich men thereof are full of volience, and the inhabitants thereof have spoken lies, and their tongue is deceitful in their mouth. *Jeremiah 10:9 blue and purple is their clothing: they are all the work of cunning men. (Esau) *Jeremiah 10:10-11 But the Lord is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation. Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens. *Micah 3:11 The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money: yet will they lean upon the Lord, and say, Is not the Lord among us? none evil can come upon us.

    March 6, 2013 at 4:28 am |
    • Science

      kevobox no devil but evil below

      Roman Catholic Church Se-x Abuse Cases

      http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/r/roman_catholic_church_se-x_abuse_cases/index.html

      Take dash out of se-x if copy and paste

      March 6, 2013 at 4:59 am |
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