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Black smoke after first votes on 2nd day of conclave to pick new pope
March 13th, 2013
11:40 AM ET

Black smoke after first votes on 2nd day of conclave to pick new pope

By Laura Smith-Spark, Hada Messia and Richard Allen Greene, CNN

Black smoke poured from the chimney fixed to the roof of the Sistine Chapel on Wednesday morning, indicating that the cardinals' first two votes of the day were inconclusive.

The 115 voting cardinals are taking part in the second day of the secretive conclave to elect a new pope.

They will have two more opportunities to vote later Wednesday.

A two-thirds majority is required to confirm a new pontiff to step into the shoes left empty by the historic resignation of Benedict XVI at the end of last month.

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Filed under: Catholic Church • Pope • Pope Benedict XVI • Vatican

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  1. Over 40,000 denominations of insanity

    Some believe that celibacy is appropriate for certain people, or for certain positions. It's ridiculous. Celibacy is unnatural and will continue to cause problems for the religious institutions that employ it.

    Many of the people from these same institutions advocate against abortion, but don't understand the realistic benefit of the morning after pill or even basic contraception; their unrealistic wishful thinking is causing the death of many at the hands of disease. Realistically, many abortions could be avoided if a morning-after pill were not viewed as such an evil option. Many of these same people bring children into the world at a high pace, and then would prefer that the rest of society take over and educate their children in their particular brand of religion when they don't plan well.

    In the U.S. recently we learned of the head of LCMS chastising a minister of that church for participating in a joint service for the victims of the Newtown school shooting.

    One sect calls homosexuality an abomination while the next one in the same denomination is already performing gay marriage.

    One sect, the Westboro Baptist Church believes Americans are being killed at war because America is too kind to "fags".

    One sect believes that Jesus and Satan were brothers and that Christ will return to Jerusalem AND Jackson County, Missouri.

    One sect believes women to be subservient, while another sect in the same denomination promotes equality between the sexes.

    Conflicted right from the very beginning, Christianity continues to splinter and create divisions and more extremism as it goes.

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    Has anything improved with Christianity since 200+ years ago?

    Thomas Jefferson, POTUS #3 (from Notes on the State of Virginia):

    Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth.

    James Madison, POTUS #4, chief architect of the U.S. Constitution & the Bill of Rights (from A Memorial and Remonstrance delivered to the Virginia General Assembly in 1785):

    During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution.

    John Adams, POTUS #2 (in a letter to Thomas Jefferson, 09/03/1816):

    I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved – the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced! With the rational respect that is due to it, knavish priests have added prostitutions of it, that fill or might fill the blackest and bloodiest pages of human history.

    Ben Franklin (from a letter to The London Packet, 3 June 1772):

    If we look back into history for the character of present sects in Christianity, we shall find few that have not in their turns been persecutors, and complainers of persecution. The primitive Christians thought persecution extremely wrong in the Pagans, but practised it on one another. The first Protestants of the Church of England, blamed persecution in the Roman church, but practised it against the Puritans: these found it wrong in the Bishops, but fell into the same practice themselves both here and in New England.

    Thomas Paine (from The Age of Reason):

    All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.
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    March 14, 2013 at 9:38 am |
  2. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    March 14, 2013 at 8:37 am |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!

      March 14, 2013 at 8:38 am |
    • Really?

      "Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things"

      That's why the data, has shown that atheists have happier and healthier lives than conservative Christians. Your post is built on a lie!

      March 14, 2013 at 8:39 am |
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    March 14, 2013 at 4:36 am |
  4. Goranesh

    I just bought a top of the range Aston Martin DB5 after bringing in $4865 this past month and over ten grand last-month. It's definitely the most comfortable job I have ever had. I began this eight months ago and straight away was making over $82, per-hour. I use the details on this website, Epic2.C0M__

    March 13, 2013 at 7:07 pm |
    • TRASH ALERT

      just click report abuse to get rid of this trash.

      March 13, 2013 at 7:19 pm |
  5. Paul

    There is a new pope. I am glad because hopefully after a few weeks of posts about the new pope we can move onto something else.

    March 13, 2013 at 2:16 pm |
    • No need for anyone greater than self, except for the King!

      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVkoQHCXSK8&w=640&h=390]

      March 13, 2013 at 2:29 pm |
  6. SAAB

    operator: 911 what's your emergency?
    umm I see some black smoking pouring out of chimney, it is thick, like something on fire inside the house!!!

    March 13, 2013 at 2:06 pm |
  7. ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

    No news for hindu Lucifer, filthy secular, hindu secular filthy donkey Kong, Atheist, self centered father of hindu monkeys, secular labeled as Cardinals to deliver his son in Vatican delivery ward. Humanity will be better off with child of hindu Lucifer, filthy secular donkey Kong Pope. Humanity need to work together to eliminate hindu Lucifer ism, secular ism, donkey ism for peace, Islam among humanity.

    March 13, 2013 at 1:07 pm |
    • Peter

      That is a nice string of random words you have put together there.

      March 13, 2013 at 1:19 pm |
    • STFU

      GO TO HELL MOHAMMAD

      March 13, 2013 at 2:11 pm |
    • My Picture Of Muhammad

      8=>(_|_)

      March 13, 2013 at 2:12 pm |
    • SAAB

      Mohammad stop wiping your ass with hands, idiot.

      March 13, 2013 at 2:23 pm |
  8. EX catholic

    Wherever there's smoke there's fire. In the other Place that’s NOT Heaven there's Eternal Fire. Idolaters will NOT enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

    March 13, 2013 at 12:55 pm |
    • Ex Alcoholic

      Wherever there's fire there's something cooking. In the other Place that’s NOT Heaven there's Eternal Fire. Ex cat holics will NOT enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

      March 13, 2013 at 2:34 pm |
    • Mark Tucker

      hahaha http://shop.popefrancistees.com kids these days

      March 13, 2013 at 9:43 pm |
  9. Chuckles

    I think they're going to draw this out as long as possible, draw out the spectacle.

    We're supposed to believe there is holy sh.it going on in there, but my guess is they already chose the guy from Milan and now it's just discussing rando stuff and trying to get as much free media attention as possible that ISN'T about scandals or ped.ophilia.

    March 13, 2013 at 12:46 pm |
  10. right

    How they really select the pope.
    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HLfQOKriYQ&w=640&h=390]

    March 13, 2013 at 12:39 pm |
  11. Billy

    I know. Don't they throw the youngest Cardinal in there with the ballots each time it doesn't work?

    March 13, 2013 at 11:52 am |
    • Billy

      (oops – that was reply to AB. Now Answerman has me believing there is no reply button.)

      March 13, 2013 at 11:53 am |
    • .

      Answerman is either using some outdated phone that displays differently, or he's dumber than a box of hair. I vote scenario #2. In any case, Answerman isn't playing with a full deck, if you get my meaning, LMAO!

      March 13, 2013 at 1:15 pm |
  12. AB

    Why isn't the smoke pink?

    March 13, 2013 at 11:48 am |
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