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March 23rd, 2013
10:00 AM ET

New pope, old pope meet for lunch

By Laura Smith-Spark, Ben Wedeman and Hada Messia, CNN

Castel Gandolfo (CNN)–Pope Francis is having lunch Saturday with his predecessor, Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI, in what may be an encounter unprecedented in Church history.

Since a new pope usually takes the reins only following the death of his predecessor, this is a rare occurrence.

Francis, who was inaugurated as the new head of the world's 1.2 billion Catholics on Tuesday, has made some changes since taking the helm - most notably by adopting a simpler, personal style and calling for the Church to focus on serving the poor and needy.

The new pontiff was flown to Castel Gandolfo by helicopter for the lunch date.

Read the full story here

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Catholic Church • Pope • Pope Benedict XVI • Pope Francis

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  1. Science

    Free speech helps educate the masses................POLITICIANS too.................time to EVOLVE !!!

    Where do morals come from?

    By Kelly Murray, CNN

    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/04/12/where-do-morals-come-from/#comments

    Gravity is not up for debate !

    BY the way ...................Splat goes a fairy in the sky !...............bye bye tinker bell !

    Einstein's Gravity Theory Passes Toughest Test Yet..............................E = mc2..........(U–Pb).................two math formulas.

    Apr. 25, 2013 — A strange stellar pair nearly 7,000 light-years from Earth has provided physicists with a unique cosmic laboratory for studying the nature of gravity. The extremely strong gravity of a massive neutron star in orbit with a companion white dwarf star puts competing theories of gravity to a test more stringent than any available before

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130425142250.htm

    Hey James Madison................religion has none it looks like.............with the comments on this blog.

    The Big question is ETHICS ! does religion have any ?

    The Ethics of Resurrecting Extinct Species

    Apr. 8, 2013 — At some point, scientists may be able to bring back extinct animals, and perhaps early humans, raising questions of ethics and environmental disruption.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130408165955.htm

    April 30, 2013 at 4:16 pm | Report abuse |

    May 1, 2013 at 12:42 pm | Report abuse |

    Dinosaur Egg Study Supports Evolutionary Link Between Birds and Dinosaurs: How Troodon Likely Hatched Its Young

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130418104324.htm

    And NO ANGELS the pope KICKED them OFF the TEAM last year !

    From Soup to Cells—the Origin of Life

    http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/evo101/IIE2aOriginoflife.shtml

    the wrong path is Adam and Eve !

    Human Y Chromosome Much Older Than Previously Thought

    Mar. 4, 2013 — The discovery and analysis of an extremely rare African American Y chromosome pushes back the time of the most recent common ancestor for the Y chromosome lineage tree to 338,000 years ago. This time predates the age of the oldest known anatomically modern human fossils.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130305145821.htm

    No god(s) needed or required to graduate from public schools in the US

    Remember : Adam had to POKE himself hard with his OWN BONE to create Eve.

    No god(s) needed................... Old. DNA works..................also catches crooks !

    Ancient DNA Reveals Europe's Dynamic Genetic History

    Apr. 23, 2013 — Ancient DNA recovered from a series of skeletons in central Germany up to 7,500 years old has been used to reconstruct the first detailed genetic history of modern Europe.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130423134037.htm

    Ca-nabis and Cannabinoids (PDQ®) – National Cancer Insti-tute

    http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/.../page4

    Mar 21, 2013 – [1,2] These plant-derived compounds may be referred to as phytocannabinoids. ... have a protective effect against the development of certain types of tumors. ... In lung cancer cell lines, CBD upregulated ICAM-1, leading to ...

    Good stuff !

    The fact...............the earth is to old for this nonsemse ! Time to EVOLVE !

    Ancient Earth Crust Stored in Deep Mantle

    Apr. 24, 2013 — Scientists have long believed that lava erupted from certain oceanic volcanoes contains materials from the early Earth's crust. But decisive evidence for this phenomenon has proven elusive. New research from a team including Carnegie's Erik Hauri demonstrates that oceanic volcanic rocks contain samples of recycled crust dating back to the Archean era 2.5 billion years ago. Their work is published in Nature.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130424132705.htm

    For what...................... ? Make sure to read what the pope said !

    Where do morals come from?

    By Kelly Murray, CNN

    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/

    Learning is fun with facts.......................... and facts work when teaching children.

    Atheist Prof. Peter Higgs: Stop calling Higgs boson the ‘God particle’

    Professor Peter Higgs said recently that there is no God and so people should stop referring to the theoretical partial that
    bears his name as the “God particle.”

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/08/atheist-prof-peter-higgs-stop-calling-higgs-bosen-the-god-particle/

    Pope praises science, but insists God created world updated Thur October 28, 2010
    Stephen Hawking is wrong, Pope Benedict XVI said Thursday – God did create the universe. The pope didn't actually mention the world-famous scientist, who argues in a book published last month that the laws of physics show there is no need for a supreme... \

    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/28/pope-praises-science-but-insists-god-created-world/

    Science

    Heaven is 'a fairy story,' scientist Stephen Hawking says updated Tue May 17, 2011
    By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor The concept of heaven or any kind of afterlife is a "fairy story," famed British scientist Stephen Hawking said in a newspaper interview this week. "I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when...

    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/17/heaven-is-a-fairy-story-scientist-stephen-hawking-says/

    April 7th, 2012

    08:32 PM ET

    The Jesus debate: Man vs. myth

    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/07/the-jesus-debate-man-vs-myth/comment-page-137/#comment-2281915

    Make sure to read comments

    April 18, 2013 at 3:10 pm | Report abuse |

    Breaking News

    NASA: Three planets found are some of best candidates so far for habitable worlds outside our solar system.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/18/us/planet-discovery/index.html

    NASA: Mars could have supported life

    Star Dust we are

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWdU_px9ApE&w=640&h=390]

    Holy Hallucinations 35

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XTCRdC8Dlo&w=640&h=390]

    The ORIGIN story is bullsh-it...............so is the bible............... nasty !

    From Soup to Cells—the Origin of Life

    http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/evo101/IIE2aOriginoflife.shtml

    Scientists have unearthed the first direct signs of cheesemaking, at a site in Poland that dates back 7,500 years.

    Human Evolution

    http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/evo101/IIE2cHumanevo.shtml

    BBC. Planet of the Apemen. Battle for Earth 1. Ho-mo Erectus

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUliLKSJ4bQ&w=640&h=390]

    BACKFILL on E =mc2.....

    Einstein letter, set for auction, shows scientist challenging idea of God, being 'chosen'

    By Jessica Ravitz, CNN

    Decades before atheist scientist and author Richard Dawkins called God a "delusion," one world-renowned physicist – Albert Einstein – was weighing in on faith matters with his own strong words.

    “The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends,” Einstein wrote in German in a 1954 letter that will be auctioned on eBay later this month. "No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this.”

    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/category/culture-science/

    May 4, 2013 at 6:47 am | Report abuse |

    Cheech & Chong's History of 420

    Cheech & Chong's History of 420 from CheechAndChong

    All cults...........creationists, ID believers and devil cults.................

    The fact...............the earth is to old ...........time to EVOLVE !.

    Ancient Earth Crust Stored in Deep Mantle

    Apr. 24, 2013 — Scientists have long believed that lava erupted from certain oceanic volcanoes contains materials from the early Earth's crust. But decisive evidence for this phenomenon has proven elusive. New research from a team including Carnegie's Erik Hauri demonstrates that oceanic volcanic rocks contain samples of recycled crust dating back to the Archean era 2.5 billion years ago. Their work is published in Nature.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130424132705.htm

    Peace

    May 4, 2013 at 1:01 pm |
  2. Max Medberry

    Hello David Gibson,

    I agree with "A pope’s effectiveness rests on gaining a hearing and the assent of the flock; in a church that is already deeply divided, those who disagree with Francis may impute an influence to Benedict that could appear to compromise the current pope’s authority, which is supposed to be absolute.” I also feel that Pope Francis will go down in history as one of the most revolutionary popes.

    Would you mind reading my blog at http://maxsenglish250blog.blogspot.com/? I would like to have your perspective.

    Max Medberry
    mmedberryengl250@gmail.com
    The Green Room at Iowa State University.

    April 16, 2013 at 11:24 pm |
  3. HotAirAce

    Were they comparing notes on how many children they abused, or how many pedophile priests they protected?

    March 27, 2013 at 2:25 am |
  4. EX catholic

    This is like who in the world cares? Well many in the Media like CNN et.al. care and of course the Papists/Romanists who are such Idolaters. IDOLATRY is a SIN a Very Grave and Serious SIN that carries in Itself consequences unforeseable by the Idolaters.

    March 24, 2013 at 6:22 pm |
    • .

      1.2 BILLION RC's care, even if you don't. Your're a one trick pony. Hush it up now.

      March 25, 2013 at 8:40 am |
    • EX catholic

      A dot (.) is a dot nothing more than that.

      I don't care how many Idolaters are in the world. There is only ONE God and ONLY ONE Mediator between God and Manking, Jesus Christ the Man.

      March 25, 2013 at 1:44 pm |
    • EX catholic

      What part of ONE you don't understand?

      March 26, 2013 at 9:04 pm |
  5. .

    Or you can just wait until they're born and dash their heads against rocks, like the OT directs you to do. Much more entertaining to thos good "Christians".

    March 24, 2013 at 2:41 pm |
  6. Correctlycenter

    End Religion: I don't remember reading about any UK scientist creating artificial life in Genesis chapter 1. Maybe it was your mythical ancient wizard scientist from days of Yor? Believe what you will, I will choose the LORD God Almighty over the nonsense of atheism...

    March 23, 2013 at 8:51 pm |
    • What is that thing on Aaron Neville's Face

      That's funny – there aren't any answers to this age-old question in Harry Potter, either. Just as credible as ancient spam.

      March 23, 2013 at 9:03 pm |
  7. City on a hill

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1dEtbJY96c&w=640&h=390]

    March 23, 2013 at 6:08 pm |
    • oOo

      Uggg – even country music is better than this.

      March 23, 2013 at 6:10 pm |
  8. Correctlycenter

    Atheism= Denial of the absolute truth. They denounce the LORD God Almighty because they want to indulge in a self-centered, materialistic, hedonistic life without any accountability to the Creator Who has obviously made everything we see with His superior intellect. Their god is their alternate lifestyle. Science, reason and logic says that things just don't appear from nowhere to exist suddenly somewhere.

    Just look at the basic principles of evolution. Somehow by chance, some 3.5 billion years ago ( take a billion-lose a billion, they don't know for sure) some ammonia, nitrogen and oxygen formed to produce some slimy algae. From this "slime" came animal life form from which we ultimately came from? Really?

    Common sense science says that Biogenesis: Only life can produce life. Our DNA came from our parents. Our parents DNA came from their parents, so on and so forth. Genesis chapter 1 is the only believable scenario. Sorry humanists...

    March 23, 2013 at 5:59 pm |
    • oOo

      Well that was a great big bowl of stupid.

      March 23, 2013 at 6:04 pm |
    • End Religion

      "Life always comes from life" – It's time to push your god further into the gaps. We have created life from non-life.

      http://voices.yahoo.com/scientists-create-artificial-life-living-organism-6070036.html

      http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/28/science/28life.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/may/20/craig-venter-synthetic-life-form

      March 23, 2013 at 6:15 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      funny how people say "we can't have come from slime!" but they have problem believing an all-powerful deity created us through magic. MAGIC.

      March 23, 2013 at 8:34 pm |
    • Box

      Bible says dirt. Humans came from dirt. Food stuffs, must be frozen.

      March 23, 2013 at 8:38 pm |
    • Bostontola

      Now I know you're just trolling. Funny.

      March 23, 2013 at 8:58 pm |
    • Woody

      "Atheism= Denial of the absolute truth." – Correctlycenter

      Atheism is simply the disbelief in deities, be it the one that YOU believe in, or any of the ancient deities that YOU have dismissed as nonsense. "Absolute Truth" is something that can be substantiated with repeatable empirical evidence. In the history of the world, there has never been a single shred of repeatable empirical evidence produced to support the existence of ANY gods, supreme beings, deities or whatever anyone chooses to name them. If believing in ancient fairy tales makes you happy, knock yourself out. But please don't criticize people who choose to think rationally.

      March 23, 2013 at 9:56 pm |
    • breathe deep

      I think it's even more funny that people who can't understand how we may have come from primordial soup could possibly go and get flu shot year after year.

      March 24, 2013 at 1:36 am |
    • Salero21

      Really End Religion! You are as stupid as they come.

      Your story reminds of another story about the same men going to God to tell Him they could do that. So they proceed to take some dust from the Earth but God said: No you can't do that, you can't use My earth or My dust. You must go and get your own dirt and dust! And BTW, when you say "we"; do you mean to tell us you were there?

      March 25, 2013 at 4:27 pm |
  9. Big Shiz

    At least this pope isn't a old school nazi.

    March 23, 2013 at 5:55 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      more new school h.omophobe.

      March 23, 2013 at 5:58 pm |
  10. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    March 23, 2013 at 3:41 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      actions cause change; prayer wastes valuable time.

      March 23, 2013 at 4:14 pm |
    • HeavenSense

      Hi Prayerbot.

      March 23, 2013 at 5:22 pm |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!

      March 24, 2013 at 9:44 am |
    • Really?

      "Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things"

      That's why the data, has shown that atheists have happier and healthier lives than conservative Christians. Your post is built on a lie!!

      March 24, 2013 at 9:50 am |
    • Simon says

      Simon says: whoever is using the name tag Jesus is an IDIOT who likes to uses capital letters and is bound for eternal hell. Have fun with that

      March 25, 2013 at 9:10 am |
  11. A story

    After living a long good life filled with loving family and great friends, during which you did lots of interesting things, you die.

    And you find yourself in heaven, for you were faithful in the proper way. And you look around and think "this is great! I am in heaven! And how amazing it is, everyone praising God – and there he is!" You enjoy this tremendously for a while, then you start looking around for your family and friends to share it with.

    But they aren't there. You look and look, but none of them can be found. So you get in the very long line of souls seeking an audience with God, and when your turn comes up, you ask about it.

    "None of them made it." Says God.

    "But they were good, and many went to church. None did anything truly bad," you reply.

    "They did not accept me in the proper way. That is the only bad. I can forgive anything else, but not improper worship of me."

    "Are they in purgatory for a while?"

    "No, hell forever."

    "But they weren't that bad! Why not just punish them a bit, then forgive them?"

    "Punishment is absolute. The smallest misdemenor and the worst sinner both get the same. Eternal torture. That's all there is to it. Time is up, go away. I have a few million more with the same question to get through this morning."

    You drift away heartbroken, knowing that not only will you never see you beloved wife or you precious children, but not even Danny from your bowling league.

    You don't like it but you cannot do anything about it, so instead of doing the usual God worshipping that constantly goes on, you look for some of you favorite activities to take your mind off it. You ask someone where the Heavenly Likns Golf Course is, and with a look of shock someone tells you there is none, that all you can and will ever do here is worship God non-stop.

    "What about skiing or pichics?"

    "No, nothing, and get back to your worship before God or his angels notice!"

    And you realize that heaven is actually just another hell.

    March 23, 2013 at 3:30 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      LOL!!!

      exactly. sitting around on a cloud all day worshiping God sounds like the worst punishment in the universe.

      March 23, 2013 at 3:41 pm |
    • obvious

      No, eternal solitary torment in a lake of fire knowing you could have been worshiping God but for your stupidity is worse.

      March 23, 2013 at 3:47 pm |
    • Richard Cranium

      obvious
      your statement is a new twist on the old Pascals Wager...and is absurd...that is what is obvious.

      March 23, 2013 at 3:55 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      but if i don't go to Hell, i won't get to talk to Gandhi and John Lennon...

      March 23, 2013 at 4:16 pm |
    • obvious

      Every statement regarding eternal punishment is NOT a twist on Pascales. Pascale has nothing to do with it.

      March 24, 2013 at 7:59 am |
    • .

      To that pos bf
      No one talks to anyone in hell as it is solitary torment. Those mentioned if there would be in too much anguish to notice you even if they could.

      March 24, 2013 at 8:01 am |
  12. Badda Bing

    The Papal lunch was interrupted by a nude man in a pick-up truck who was screaming something about adding a drive-thru to the Vatican.

    March 23, 2013 at 2:33 pm |
  13. Bootyfunk

    Benedict: You're not as ignorant and backward thinking as I am!
    Francis: Oh yes I am! I'm twice as oblivious to modern thinking and ethics!
    Benedict: I bet you don't help kill as many people as I did by telling them not to wear condoms!
    Francis: Are you kidding? I'm going to push Asia, Africa and South America into a new HIV era!
    Benedict: But you'll never violate as many smooth boys as I did! I hold the Vatican record!
    Francis: And in such a short time. Impressive. But I used to have a harem of South American boys, so we'll have to see about that!
    Benedict: Hahaha! You'll be a fine Pope!

    March 23, 2013 at 2:32 pm |
  14. Reality

    I thought Francis the First only took public transportation? Time to sell the helicopter giving the proceeds to the poor. ( Mark 10:17-22 = Matt 19:16-22 = Luke 18:18-23). But did Jesus actually utter the words in these passages? Professor Gerd Ludemann gives a thumbs up to the authenticity. See his book, Jesus After 2000 Years, p. 70. p. 694.

    March 23, 2013 at 1:00 pm |
  15. End Religion

    1+1=2

    March 23, 2013 at 12:16 pm |
    • Reality

      Excellent summary !!

      March 23, 2013 at 1:01 pm |
  16. Cookie Monster

    Me has a question. Do you have cookie?

    March 23, 2013 at 10:50 am |
  17. Richard Cranium

    All of this and every other rant you post is nothing more than the opinion of your diseased mind.

    You are the one focusing attention on Obama and the pope...Why don't you just cut yourself off from the real world and join one of those monk orders? Why don't you focus on your jesus (who allegedly taught peace and tolerance), since your posts are so filled with hatred of things you clearly do not understand.

    The world will not bow to your opinion rainman...and seriously, get some competant professional help.

    March 23, 2013 at 2:13 pm |
  18. Richard Cranium

    Someone keeps deleting rainmans posts before I can even reply to it.

    March 23, 2013 at 2:14 pm |
  19. Science

    They/someone is wound really tight on the belief blog it is happening on be nice too.

    March 23, 2013 at 2:22 pm |
  20. .

    Someone needs to. That boy is nuts.

    March 23, 2013 at 3:24 pm |
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