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Who is on God's side of the marriage debate?
March 25th, 2013
11:00 PM ET

Who is on God's side of the marriage debate?

By Dan Merica, CNN

Washington (CNN) – As the Supreme Court considers two major same-sex marriage cases that could change marriage in the United States, religious leaders on both sides of the debate believe they are on God's side of the contentious issue.

In the months leading up to this week's Supreme Court hearings, religious leaders from across the country have held prayer vigils and rallies for their respective causes.

At each event, even those with diametrically opposed views, leaders cite biblical principles as the foundation for their beliefs.

"I believe I am on God's side," Dr. Richard Land, president of The Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission and and opponent of same-sex marriage, told CNN. "I have no question in what God says marriage is."

"I do think we are on God's side because my idea of God is someone that is loving," said the Rev. Gary Hall, dean of the Washington National Cathedral and a proponent of same-sex marriage. "My understanding is that kind of God that loves everyone and wants everyone to live a joyful life."

This week, the Supreme Court will hear two cases. One will examine the constitutionality of Proposition 8, a law that prohibited same-sex marriage in California, and the other will test the Defense of Marriage Act, the 1996 legislation that forbids the recognition of same-sex marriages nationwide and bars married gay and lesbian couples from receiving federal benefits.

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Land and Hall each have actively worked on his side of this debate.

Hall, after taking the reins at the National Cathedral in 2012, decided to marry same-sex couples in the historic church. Land, who has counseled Republican presidents and members of Congress, has written and spoken at length about why same-sex marriage goes against biblical principles.

And although they both believe in the Bible, their opinions on how the text views same-sex marriage are shaped by their views on how literally to read the holy book.

"I come from a tradition that looks at the big story," said Hall, an Episcopalian. "The image of Jesus in the Bible is of someone who really makes everyone welcome, and it is from that perspective that I operate."

Hall acknowledges, however, that the Bible isn't the only guide for this belief.

"Our argument is not entirely scriptural-based," Hall said, after acknowledging passages of the holy book that define marriage as being between a man and a woman. "There is no place in the Bible that I can point to that says Jesus performed a same-sex marriage or anything like that."

In addition to scripture, Hall said, "tradition and reason" anchor his belief that same-sex couples should be allowed to wed. There are about 2 million Episcopalians in the United States.

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Land, on the other hand, cites the chapters and verses that guide his views on same-sex marriage.

"The people who take a more conservative view of the Bible and believe that they are under the authority of scripture almost universally oppose same-sex marriage," Land said about people who agree with him.

For Land, this view is not only consistent but  also roots his belief in "traditional values" and his disgust with "moral relativism."

Land, a Southern Baptist, continued: "The people who are religious and support same-sex marriage tend to take a Dalmatian view of scripture. They believe the Bible is divine in spots, and they think they can spot the spots."

If the Supreme Court decides in favor of same-sex marriage, Land said, the decision would be on par with the court's 1973 decision on Roe v. Wade, which affirmed a woman's right to an abortion.

"I think it will evoke a similar reaction," Land said.

Southern Baptists count 16 million members in the United States.

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This split over the biblical reasoning behind each side of the marriage debate extends beyond just Land and Hall, however. Churches around the country have been divided on the issue, with some choosing to allow same-sex marriage and others to forbid it.

The Rev. Jacqui Lewis, the senior minister at Middle Collegiate Church in New York who has worked with the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation on same-sex marriage, comes down in favor of same-sex marriage.

She uses the Bible - and civil rights - in her reasoning.

"I don't think that people who are supporting gay marriage need to distance themselves from the Bible in needing to find support," Lewis said. When asked about how the Bible anchors her beliefs, she cited Mark 12:31: "Love your neighbor as yourself."

On the other side of the argument is Robert Gagnon, a biblical scholar at Pittsburgh Theological Seminary who has worked with the Family Research Council on the issue.

"Only a woman is a true sexual compliment to a man and vice versa," said Gagnon, citing Genesis 1:27 and Genesis 2:24, along with the Gospels of Mark and Matthew, as the reasoning behind his view on same-sex marriage.

"That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh," reads Genesis 2:24.

As for how he feels about people such as Hall who use the Bible to defend their position in support of same-sex marriage: "You are rejecting Jesus himself. ... Just go ahead and make up your own religion."

- Dan Merica

Filed under: Belief • Christianity • Gay marriage • Politics

soundoff (2,640 Responses)
  1. james

    The most troubling parts of history start with somebody saying that "God is on my side."

    March 26, 2013 at 1:23 pm |
    • sam stone

      That and "hold my beer while I try this"

      March 26, 2013 at 1:34 pm |
  2. Meowser

    This is not a religious issue.

    Religious beliefs, the dogma of denominations, the passages in the Bible or the Torah or the Koran that are trotted out – all are irrelevant.

    This is a civil rights issue and a legal issue.

    March 26, 2013 at 1:22 pm |
  3. lolo

    If being gay is so evil and wrong, let the perpetrators worry about judgement day with God. We can not be judge, jury and executioner. This is the problem with you so called Christians, you are so worried that it will turn you gay, whatever it is. Worry about what is going on in your own household.

    March 26, 2013 at 1:21 pm |
    • Robert

      Very well said

      March 26, 2013 at 1:26 pm |
    • kippyafd

      Turn US gay? That is just dumb.

      March 26, 2013 at 3:59 pm |
  4. History Bear

    You'll know "gods" opinion when he tells you. Not when some slick talking "preacher man" tells you what you should believe.As to the bible, this is a 2000 year old book of stories of the Jewish people, layered with 4 gospels written by people who didn't know Jesus and never heard him preach. No one is telling the churches they have to preform marraiges. And while you are all upset at the GLBT group, how about all the polygamist in the west ?

    March 26, 2013 at 1:21 pm |
    • Independent Thought

      Great point HB, if we legalize this then we will have no choice but to legalize polygamy and any other 'way people are born'..................pedophilia is not a choice either! Are you going to march for them too???

      March 26, 2013 at 1:23 pm |
    • Paul

      As a brain dead individual, I agree that letting two adults of the same gender get married means we have to allow adults to r.ape children. The only reason someone would make that argument is that they like to r.ape children themselves.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:44 pm |
    • kippyafd

      No one is telling the church they have to marry gay people.....YET. Just as religious workplaces must provide contraception, when it goes against their Faith.

      March 26, 2013 at 4:01 pm |
  5. ROMNEY2012

    Satan's Hand is being played by the black devil himself! We must resist the oppression of religion by the unjustified Supreme Courts of the Land!

    The Home of the FREE! Not the Home of the Slaves of the Government!

    DON'T LET OBAMA STEAL OUR FREEDOM OF RELIGION! GOD IS THE ONLY PROTECTOR OF HUMANITY!

    March 26, 2013 at 1:19 pm |
    • Bob

      Wow, whole lotta' stupid going on with this one.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:23 pm |
    • History Bear

      And doing a crappy job of it I might add.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:24 pm |
    • sally

      LMAO! Time to get a new handle Rummy Pirate 2012.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:25 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      Obama's not stealing your freedom of religion you idiot. Obama recognizes equal rights for all when it comes to this. Gay rights do not infringe in any way upon your freedom of religion...you are still free to believe as you wish, you just won't be free to legally discriminate. You reside in a country founded on Secular Beliefs...Separation of church and state and given that a marriage is not legal without a state issued license, it would make sense that this is not a church issue.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:37 pm |
  6. Voice of Truth-Censored by CNN

    As God is nothing but a myth, why does it matter whose "side" "He" is on?

    March 26, 2013 at 1:19 pm |
    • Alicia

      Repeat that statement the day you meet him face to face.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:21 pm |
    • Independent Thought

      Amen Alicia!!!!!

      March 26, 2013 at 1:24 pm |
    • Jen

      Alicia, yeah, Odin's gonna be angry with you when he finds out that you worshipped that other god.

      Do look up Pascal's Wager, dear.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:25 pm |
    • anne Sardina

      Ditto to Alicia's response, I live by "If I can only Imagine" anyone who can deny God after all that has been created has real issues in my book or is just plain blind..

      March 26, 2013 at 1:28 pm |
    • Dennis

      Alicia, what a stupid, ignorant response you made. And to Jen's point, go here and learn:

      http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_wager

      March 26, 2013 at 1:32 pm |
    • kippyafd

      Your OPINION, you are not stating actual fact.

      March 26, 2013 at 4:02 pm |
  7. fred

    If there is no God then the institution of marriage has no purpose onto God. The only purpose then would be to satisfy some desire the majority feel is important at the moment. The same goes with life all around without God. Society breaks down into the pit of lusts and desires of the majority.

    A godless word has never existed for modern man. All the atheists that constantly demand evidence have all the evidence ever needed. We do not have a point in the history of modern man where something greater than self was not looked up to and often worshiped. Certainly there were always small pockets of modern man that deviated from the norm but they fell to side of the road.

    The great push to normalize the bondage of sin is nothing more than godlessness working its way through society. Without constraints lust and pride become the gods of man. Man has always fashioned idols to reflect these gods that are rooted in the evil of the human heart. Today sex, money, beauty, power, knowledge are top idols. Homosexuality has no shame and conducts constant gay pride parades. Pride and proud over humble service has taken the upper hand in what is considered good morals.

    The greater the distance from God (real or illusion) and the absolutes established by His laws the greater the degree of relativism that begins to break down order. As with good on one side evil on the other is also changing form. What was once evil or bad is now glorified as vampire stories and powerful wizards are good things. Death, violence, rape and blood are the big sellers with society gobbling it up. Shades of Gray is not taboo but fun reading.
    Prepare for a godless word as God historically has allowed civilizations to reach their peak in wickedness before calamity hits.

    March 26, 2013 at 1:18 pm |
    • Third Eagle of the Apocalypse

      Marriage started as a contract between two men and had no religion context.. Even today churches hold no legal power over marriage, it is state and federal LAW.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:23 pm |
    • Tom

      Kids all over the world believe in Santa. Last I checked that did not make it true.

      I'm so tired of the people who claim morality cannot exist without a god.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:23 pm |
    • JWT

      My world has never had any gods in it.

      Anyway how do we decide which of the 1000s of god to follow and which version of that god after ?

      March 26, 2013 at 1:23 pm |
    • Rap is not music

      We don't adhere to the laws of the imaginary. We have real laws to follow. Humans existed long before god existed. Think on that one, sport.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:23 pm |
    • Jen

      Fred, there's no god. Please get over your fairy tales already.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:26 pm |
    • J

      Can you give me an example of ANY evidence? Books written 2000 years ago when humans didn't know the Earth revolved around the sun don't count.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:28 pm |
    • Jill

      fred, phhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhtttt. Pi is not equal to 3.14 coniferous horses.Often, the pertinent cat presents fabled necessities in the parking chamfer. Realize your net precedent. Triangulate! Save the best for the alligators. Ever the bastille notches the orchestra but Wendy is not green and horses will capitulate. Filter out the log from the turnstile and cry prevalently.

      So there brown stare. Feed your inner walnut and resolve. Subject your lemon to the ingenious door in the presence of snow and animals. Aisle 7 is for the monetary cheese whiz. Faced with the kitchen, you may wish to prolong the sailboat in the cliff. Otherwise, rabbits may descend on your left nostril. Think about how you can stripe the sea.

      Regale the storm to those who (6) would thump the parrot with the armband. Corner the market on vestiges of the apparent closure but seek not the evidential circumstance. Therein you can find indignant mountains of pigs and apples. Descend eloquently as you debate the ceiling of your warning fulcrum. Vacate the corncob profusely and and don’t dote on the pancreas.

      Phase out the goldfish sector. Have at the cat with your watch on the fore. Aft! Smarties (12)! Rome wasn’t kevetched in an autumn nightie. (42) See yourself for the turntable on the escalator. Really peruse the garage spider definitely again again with brown. Now we have an apparent congestion, so be it here. Just a moment is not a pod of beef for the ink well nor can it be (4) said that Karen was there in the millpond.

      Garbage out just like the candle in the kitty so. Go, go, go until the vacuum meets the upward vacation. Sell the yellow. Then trim the bus before the ten cheese please Louise. Segregate from the koan and stew the ship vigorously.

      And remember, never pass up an opportunity to watch an elephant paint Mozart.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:30 pm |
    • Jason

      Was that a Mad Lib?

      March 26, 2013 at 1:33 pm |
    • Dennis

      Jill just rocks. And she makes way more sense than fred.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:34 pm |
    • fred

      Third Eagle of the Apocalypse
      Wrong. The laws of man on marriage have the same impact as a speed limit sign. People do what they want if they get away with it. Most church laws prohibit gay marriage and there is none if it period. You want to get married you must step outside the control of the church. Gods law is even greater. A marriage that is not within the law of God is not recognized. God is no respector of persons and male, male or man women must conform to Gods laws as mans law are secondary
      .
      Now, if there is no God then do whatever you can get away with it's only equivelent to speed limit sign. If there is no God even I could care less what the courts decide.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:35 pm |
    • fred

      Tom
      "I"'m so tired of the people who claim morality cannot exist without a god."

      =>immorality is tiresome so if you want to revitalize you're life stop what your doing.
      Without God there are no absolutes or need for absolutes. This alone makes you dead wrong in your immorality and renders your statement false.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:42 pm |
    • fred

      JWT
      “My world has never had any gods in it.”
      =>so you just go through life without any desires and have no priorities in life? What makes you get up and excel to be the best you can be and for what goal?

      “Anyway how do we decide which of the 1000s of god to follow and which version of that god after ?”
      =>There is only one God to follow. If you are called by God you will know as you must make the deliberate choice to reject God if you are offered the gift of knowing the one true God.
      There can only be one God based on what we know about God. There are many beliefs about God but that is mans problem not Gods.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:48 pm |
    • JWT

      I have desires, objectives, morals and all that fun stuff. No god ever gave it to me. Nor is one needed. You have your version of god and other people have their versions, or none at all. There is nothing existant to say you are rigth and they are wrong.

      It may be that you need the concept of a god to know what to do in life, I do not.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:55 pm |
    • fred

      Rap is not music
      “We don't adhere to the laws of the imaginary.”
      =>nonsense step into my business, house or church and everyone knows I believe and conduct my life by the Word of God. You will follow the laws of God where God is loved and known or you will taken out the door.
      You can say in your world you don’t adhere to laws of God which is probably a true statement. The reality is you cannot escape God, you can deny God exists but you cannot escape the reality of God.

      “Humans existed long before god existed. Think on that one, sport”
      =>only if there is no God would your statement be true. You statement would be true for the various man made gods but not God.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:56 pm |
    • fred

      J
      “Can you give me an example of ANY evidence?”
      In the beginning God are the first words in the Bible. Everything we know to this date has never gone beyond that knowledge with the limits of science constrained by boundaries of that which was created. Do you understand that limitations of measurement and predictability are constrained by matter and energy that was created as we were?

      The Word of God is the evidence. Are you open to the possibility that as John said “in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was the light of men.

      March 26, 2013 at 2:10 pm |
    • fred

      JWT
      “I have desires, objectives, morals and all that fun stuff.”
      =>without God as a reference all your stuff and your morals are defined by someone else not you. You have the desires and morals of others without any way to determine good or evil outside of others. This is existence without God.

      “No god ever gave it to me.”
      =>your opinion is of little value. God either is or is not period.
      “ Nor is one needed.”
      =>now we are getting close to your god as do not need grace and mercy nor would you bow before anything not of your making. Stephen Hawkings is still trying to prove that and has not. So you think of yourself smarter than the best. I think you need God more that you know.

      “ You have your version of god and other people have their versions, or none at all. There is nothing existant to say you are rigth and they are wrong.”
      =>again, versions of god that people hold is very different from the God who is. God is revealed through creation and in creation sorry you refuse to see that.

      “It may be that you need the concept of a god to know what to do in life, I do not.”
      =>we all need God (not god or gods) some of us simply are too proud or in the bondage of sin to be able to accept that.
      As for me you are correct I need God not only to explain cause for existence but to experience all of creation not just the limited view of the godless. Yes, the godless have a very limited view that is limited by what they are told by others. Some even live and die from the writings of Dawkins and have extrapolated a world view based on biological evolution which is impossible to do given the limits of science.

      March 26, 2013 at 3:01 pm |
    • Jill

      fred, phhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhtttt. Pi is really not equal to 3.14 coniferous horses.Often, the pertinent cat presents fabled necessities in the parking chamfer. Realize your net precedent. Triangulate! Save the best for the alligators. Ever the bastille notches the orchestra but Wendy is not green and horses will capitulate. Filter out the log from the turnstile and cry prevalently.

      So there brown stare. Feed your inner walnut and resolve. Subject your lemon to the ingenious door in the presence of snow and animals. Aisle 7 is for the monetary cheese whiz. Faced with the kitchen, you may wish to prolong the sailboat in the cliff. Otherwise, rabbits may descend on your left nostril. Think about how you can stripe the sea.

      Regale the storm to those who (6) would thump the parrot with the armband. Corner the market on vestiges of the apparent closure but seek not the evidential circumstance. Therein you can find indignant mountains of pigs and apples. Descend eloquently as you debate the ceiling of your warning fulcrum. Vacate the corncob profusely and and don’t dote on the pancreas.

      Phase out the goldfish sector. Have at the cat with your watch on the fore. Aft! Smarties (12)! Rome wasn’t kevetched in an autumn nightie. (42) See yourself for the turntable on the escalator. Really peruse the garage spider definitely again again with brown. Now we have an apparent congestion, so be it here. Just a moment is not a pod of beef for the ink well nor can it be (4) said that Karen was there in the millpond.

      Garbage out just like the candle in the kitty so. Go, go, go until the vacuum meets the upward vacation. Sell the yellow. Then trim the bus before the ten cheese please Louise. Segregate from the koan and stew the ship vigorously.

      And remember, never pass up an opportunity to watch an elephant paint Mozart.

      March 26, 2013 at 3:50 pm |
  8. truth truth truth 2013

    It is a hard thing when you are rebuked. I have been rebuked in my walk with CHRIST and it made me stronger and want to learn of JESUS.JESUS said Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
    It did not feel good, and the word given to all of those who are not disciples of CHRIST should have not felt good to you if you are coming against this GOSPEL, the devil is going to tell you they just some mean old CHRISTIANS. I can say this with a good and honest heart , I will proabaly never meet any you on this blog but I love you and pray one day you will be led to the GOSPEL of JESUS CHRIST. take care goodbye

    March 26, 2013 at 1:18 pm |
    • Richard Cranium

      You walk with your belief...you cannot show otherwise.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:25 pm |
  9. Nora

    The problem is that questions like this are even considered in a debate about what the law should be. Separation of church and state.

    March 26, 2013 at 1:16 pm |
  10. Rap is not music

    Joey, in case you missed my reply to your incorrect interpretation of HeyZeus' words from the almighty and holy heroic word of man, I'll provide some direct quotes where HeyZeus did not state "A PEOPLE," but instead spoke directly to people, face to face, and told them he'd return before they died.

    Ready?

    Perhaps you should read the quotes by HeyZeus himself instead of insisting it said "A PEOPLE." This is the problem. Interpretation. Why must you interpret? To bend it to what you wish to be true?

    Let's clear it up. No interpretations. K?


    “Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.”
    –Matthew 24:34

    THIS GENERATION. Not another generation. That's what HeyZeus said.


    “Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.”
    –Matthew 16:28 (KJV)

    Standing HERE. What's that? Not standing in the United States in 2,000 years? And they'll still be alive? Man, it must be true, JESUS SAID IT.


    “According to the Lord’s own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, we who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep.”
    –1 Thessalonians 4:15 (NIV)

    Oh my. We who are still alive?

    Uh oh. I think you have some explaining to do.

    March 26, 2013 at 1:15 pm |
  11. end3r

    @ Ezra "American law is based on God's law you moron. The separation of church and state was never intended to take religion out but never to allow it to become the law."

    Uhh the separation of church and state quite literally was intended to separate church and state. And American law is not "based on god's law". If that were the case then we'd all have unkempt beards, no mixed fiber clothing, black people would still be slaves, and women would be kept at home and not allowed to speak you blithering idiot.

    March 26, 2013 at 1:14 pm |
    • Rap is not music

      Yeah. And we'd be arguing over which version of the ten commandments was the correct one to stone people to death over.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:18 pm |
    • end3r

      To quote James Madison on the matter – ""The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from
      these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in
      blood for centuries."

      March 26, 2013 at 1:18 pm |
  12. halfbakedlunatic

    'god' is an idiotic idea promoted by immoral people to control and pacify the weak minded. Anyone who says that this 'god' is for or against anyone in particular is just spouting off nonsense.

    March 26, 2013 at 1:13 pm |
    • Alicia

      LOL who is being controlled??? thought so.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:23 pm |
  13. Jason

    I love that athiests constantly troll the belief blog and get all preachy about how christians are stupid. It is the BELIEF BLOG, after all. Trolls should be ignored.

    March 26, 2013 at 1:11 pm |
    • Duke

      well the belief is kinda antiquated, more suitable for cave-men than educated people. So I ask – why should a portion of the citizenship be denied basic rights because another portion believes in fairy tales ? If it were not a present political issue it would make a good comedy story.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:15 pm |
    • Voice of Truth-Censored by CNN

      And yet here you sit baiting them....

      March 26, 2013 at 1:17 pm |
    • Third Eagle of the Apocalypse

      Typical ignorant believer. Get a dictionary and after you are done looking up the difference between belief and religion ask CNN why THEY post articles about Atheist on the belief blog oh wait..you wouldn’t need to…

      March 26, 2013 at 1:19 pm |
    • Jason

      Currently ignoring Duke.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:20 pm |
    • Jason

      Third:
      Why so mean and nasty? You need a therapist.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:31 pm |
  14. bob

    Which god? And why the Bible? Why not the book of Scientology? Or something about Zeus...or Allah...or Thor...or Hulk...or Iron Man? Oh silly me I went from completley fictional charaters to completely fictional characters. My bad.

    March 26, 2013 at 1:10 pm |
  15. Amanda

    Since God was taken out of the court room what does he have to do with this argument in the court room? I like how he's used when it serves their purpose.

    March 26, 2013 at 1:09 pm |
    • Doobs

      Gods were never in the court room. The USA is founded on secular values, not religious ones.

      If a god was allowed in court, it would have to be your god, right?

      March 26, 2013 at 1:27 pm |
    • Jason

      Still usually swearing on a Bible, right?

      March 26, 2013 at 1:31 pm |
  16. Cedric

    I believe what the Bible says about marriage(man and woman); if you disagree, that is your decision. True tolerance is accepting the belief of another as their belief. The one thing that the LGBT community stresses is tolerance, but they rarely enact it. If God does not exist, then everything attached to Him should be annulled, including "thou shalt not kill/steal" etc,. God is who the Bible says He is, not who you think He is/should be.

    March 26, 2013 at 1:08 pm |
    • Saraswati

      You can't ask people to tolerate beliefs that hurt them. That's like someone in Greece or early 1800s United States telling a slave they should be tolerant of the idea that slavery is OK. In other worlds, a pretty silly and ass'hole comment to make to someone you're busy hurting.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:11 pm |
    • Third Eagle of the Apocalypse

      The LBGT doesn’t care if you believe it. They care that your kind enforces their belief on others. You are not a victim because LBGT members want the same rights you have.

      P.S. For the record your god didn’t come up with that law. That law and most others your religion claims are also claimed by other gods from other cultures older than yours. Can you be this simple?

      March 26, 2013 at 1:15 pm |
    • Duke

      Go ahead and believe. But don't take rights away from others who choose not to have your silly delusions.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:16 pm |
    • Richard Cranium

      Cedric
      You are clearly not thinking.

      I am an atheist, and am not bound by any of the man made gods laws. I am bound by civil laws and the social consiousness that all social animals have. Animals do not follow any of gods laws and you do not see them running around killing each other for no good reason do you....you entire post is some of the silliest things I have ever heard.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:18 pm |
    • Nora

      Not killing and stealing isn't attached to a Christian god. Those are universally held moral positions, regardless of religious belief.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:24 pm |
  17. Fundies Gone Wild! They are Panicking!

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0-04VDrCbM&w=640&h=360]

    March 26, 2013 at 1:07 pm |
    • Separation of Church And State

      Oh my God, that was hilarious. Anyone ELSE see the irony in my post???

      March 26, 2013 at 1:16 pm |
    • Morgan

      ROFL! Now THAT was funny! They remind me of those "fainting goats!" Only, of course, they're sheeple, not goats! LOL

      March 26, 2013 at 1:25 pm |
  18. Mark

    I am so sick of hearing about "god" God has nothing to do with modern marriage. If two people love each other, who are we to stop them from getting married and having the same rights as everyone else does.

    March 26, 2013 at 1:05 pm |
    • John12345

      My neighbor loves his donkey and the donkey loves him I hope they can marry??

      March 26, 2013 at 1:18 pm |
    • Peregrine

      John donkeys can't give informed consent and so cannot be married. Now sheep on the other hand.....

      March 26, 2013 at 1:25 pm |
    • DamianKnight

      Reducto ad absurdum at its finest.

      March 26, 2013 at 1:29 pm |
  19. Stephen

    You know, it'd be really nice if this belief blog actually posted an op-ed piece from the atheist/humanist perspective once and a while instead of mere space filling articles about who provided significant funding to the Reason Rally. There are millions of Americans who believe god doesn't have a side in this debate given that he is nonexistent, and it would be nice if our voices were allowed to be heard in the public forum from time to time.

    March 26, 2013 at 1:05 pm |
    • Sean

      Would it sound like a mixed message if I said "Amen" to that?

      March 26, 2013 at 1:49 pm |
  20. Logic

    Those religious nuts need to render unto Caesar and let the law decide about civil laws.

    March 26, 2013 at 1:05 pm |
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