Imam: I wouldn’t give Boston suspect last rites
Tamerlan Tsarnaev, shown in a 2009 photo, died Friday. In accordance with Islam, he should have been buried the same day.
April 21st, 2013
03:30 PM ET

Imam: I wouldn’t give Boston suspect last rites

By Moni Basu and Eric Marrapodi, CNN

(CNN) - Tamerlan Tsarnaev died early Friday, and according to the rules of Islam, he should have been buried by now. But his severely wounded body is still being held to determine a cause of death.

"We are waiting for more information," said Terrel Harris, spokesman for the Boston Medical Examiner's Office. He wasn't sure when a cause of death would be released.

Tsarnaev, 26, had so many penetrating wounds when he arrived at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center early Friday that doctors could not tell which ones had killed him. He'd engaged in a ferocious battle with police in which more than 200 rounds of gunfire was exchanged. He and his brother Dzhokhar, 19, also allegedly hurled improvised explosive devices and handmade grenades at officers.

Haroon Firdausi, a licensed funeral director in Chicago, said he usually encourages authorities not to delay when there is a need for an autopsy. Usually, Muslims are buried the same day as their death.

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There are questions about when, where and how Tamerlan Tsarnaev will be buried. And there's a bigger question: whether any Muslim entity will be willing to deliver last rites.

Many Muslim community leaders have sought to distance themselves from the Tsarnaevs in light of reports that Tamerlan Tsarnaev might have been influenced by radical Islam. Fearing retaliation, Muslim leaders have strongly condemned the bombings and made it clear that Islam does not condone violence.

At least one Boston cleric said he would refuse to perform funeral rites for a man accused of committing so much violence. The Quran, said Imam Talal Eid, says that anyone who has killed another human being is going to hell.

Eid, who is imam at the Boston Islamic Institute, said he had never met the Tsarnaev brothers but questioned media accounts that Tamerlan Tsarnaev had become a devout Muslim.

"A person who is devoted does not kill innocent people," Eid said.

Yusufi Vali, executive director of the Islamic Society of Boston Cultural Center, the largest mosque in the Boston area, also rejected the Tsarnaev brothers.

"I don't care who or what these criminals claim to be, but I can never recognize these criminals as part of my city or my faith community," he said.

"All of us Bostonians want these criminals to be brought to justice immediately. I am infuriated at the criminals of these bombings for trying to rip our city apart. We will remain united and not let them change who we are as Bostonians."

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The Tsarnaev brothers occasionally attended prayer services at the Islamic Society of Boston Cambridge Masjid, a small mosque near their apartment in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

"In their visits, they never exhibited any violent sentiments or behavior," said a statement from the masjid. "Otherwise they would have been immediately reported to the FBI. After we learned of their identities, we encouraged anyone who knew them in our congregation to immediately report to law enforcement, which has taken place."

- Moni Basu

Filed under: Islam • Muslim • Terrorism

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  1. Doc Vestibule

    To use language the right wingers might understand:
    "Religions don't kill people. People kill people."

    April 22, 2013 at 3:14 pm |

      Human do not kill people, but they are killed by hindu secular ism, criminal self center ism of human , in denial of truth absolute GOD, foundation of consti tuion of USA.

      April 22, 2013 at 3:21 pm |


      April 22, 2013 at 3:23 pm |
    • mama k

      @Islam troll: I understand your issue with extreme Hinduism – but there is a reason, BY DESIGN, that God nor Islam are mentioned in the U.S. Constitution – get a clue.

      April 22, 2013 at 3:27 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @Filthy Islam Troll
      Still waiting for you to explain how a polytheistic religion is secular (or atheistic as you've said in the past).

      April 22, 2013 at 3:29 pm |
    • Honey Badger Don't Care!

      Science builds planes, religion flies planes into buildings.

      April 22, 2013 at 3:32 pm |
    • Akira

      Asked previously:
      Please illustrate exactly how Islam is the foundation of the United States Constitution.

      April 22, 2013 at 5:10 pm |

      Beyond mental capacity of child of a hindu primate, ignorant secular by nature, just pay attention to circle 360* on flag of hindered gutter of hindu secular ism, self center ism india, and than pay attention to buildings of both houses in capital of USA, they a round 360* without divide, may be too difficult for a child of a languor , secular by faith to realize..

      April 22, 2013 at 5:29 pm |

      Beyond mental capacity of child of a hindu primate, ignorant secular by nature, just pay attention to circle 360* on flag of hindered gutter of hindu secular ism, self center ism india, and than pay attention to buildings of both houses in capital of USA, they a round 360* without divide,

      April 22, 2013 at 5:29 pm |
    • Al

      The invisible and the non-existent look remarkably alike.

      April 22, 2013 at 5:33 pm |
    • Nasty dogism of Anderson Cooper 360

      Is true – 360 = EVIL!

      April 22, 2013 at 5:34 pm |
    • Akira

      Asked previously:
      Please illustrate exactly how Islam is the foundation of the United States Constitution.
      Try to answer. I am not Hindu.

      April 22, 2013 at 5:40 pm |

      Nasty dogism of Anderson Cooper 360
      Correct, 360 truth absolute is not dividable by any mean, divide is by hindu secular ism, criminal self center ism of hindu secular s, criminal self centered, hindus, deniers of truth absolute.

      April 22, 2013 at 6:08 pm |
    • Akira

      Stupidity that is Islamabot, both houses built years after Constitution was written, ignorant, hind. Try again. Dome head sign of tardility, moron, dolt.

      April 22, 2013 at 6:46 pm |
    • oOo

      I suppose the Islam troll also thinks the Dome over Europe's cathedrals also represent Islam. What an idiot.

      April 22, 2013 at 6:50 pm |
    • oOo

      Islamabot – the Anderson 360 thing was a joke – only some ignorant fool such as yourself would see something "real" about it.

      April 22, 2013 at 7:00 pm |
  2. awww look at you cute christians

    I love how religious people insist on quoting their religious books all the freakin time. When you quote that you assume two things, one that the book you are reading is face (laughable) and two that the person you are saying the quote too agrees that its a fact. So please spare your verses and offer facts when presented an argument jebus crispy

    April 22, 2013 at 3:10 pm |
    • Honey Badger Don't Care!

      Bilbo Baggins: Why don't we have a game of riddles and if I win, you show me the way out of here?
      Gollum: And if he loses? What then? Well if he loses precious then we eats it! If Baggins loses we eats it whole!
      Bilbo Baggins: Fair enough.

      ― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Hobbit

      April 22, 2013 at 3:30 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Awwwwwwwww look at your lying savior – http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/22/trial-begins-for-officials-accused-in-obama-clinton-ballot-petition-fraud/

      FYI with love. God Bless.


      April 22, 2013 at 3:46 pm |
    • awww look at you cute christians

      I wasnt talking about Obama you right wing religious gun lover

      April 22, 2013 at 4:05 pm |
  3. mama k

    The new "clarity" steals a handle to continue its message. Why do "Christians" on this blog continue to be dishonest?

    Quite simple. Many of them are conflicted and it has lead to various types of extremism.

    Let's look at some more examples:

    One sect calls homosexuality an abomination while the next one (over 4,000,000 members) in the same denomination is already performing gay marriage.

    One sect, the Westboro Baptist Church believes Americans are being killed at war because America is too kind to "fags".

    One sect believes women to be subservient, while another sect in the same denomination promotes equality between the sexes.

    One sect believes that Jesus and Satan were brothers and that Christ will return to Jerusalem AND Jackson County, Missouri.

    Some believe the Pope is the Anti-Christ. Some believe Obama is the Anti-Christ.

    Some believe that celibacy is the only option for certain people, or for people in certain positions. Many of the people from these same institutions advocate against abortion, but pretend not to understand the realistic benefit of the morning after pill or even basic contraception; their unrealistic wishful thinking is causing the death of many at the hands of disease.

    In the U.S. recently we learned of the head of Lutheran CMS chastising a minister of that church for participating in a joint service for the victims of the Newtown school shooting.

    Conflicted interpretation of ANY religious tenets from ANY religion creates division, fear, and bigotry.

    April 22, 2013 at 3:06 pm |
    • lol??

      Bigotry is never far from an A&A's dreams, and below the water line of ye ol' icebergs, frozen in their bwains and ready to melt into the sea. Tsk Tsk don'tcha know:
      "Jam 4:14 Whereas ye know not what [shall be] on the morrow. For what [is] your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away."

      April 22, 2013 at 5:38 pm |
    • midwest rail

      1. You have no idea what "bigotry" means.
      2. You never addressed the post.
      3. I'm shocked, I tell you, just shocked.

      April 22, 2013 at 5:45 pm |
    • lol??

      pwogwessive gayness? cool, hip, bad?

      April 22, 2013 at 5:47 pm |
    • oOo

      Hint to lol?? Read again, and think of the word "conflicted". Maybe some bwain cells will work together this time.

      April 22, 2013 at 5:52 pm |
    • lol??

      Sorry! The word "conflicted" doesn't occur in the KJV.

      April 22, 2013 at 6:15 pm |
    • lol??

      Maybe the confliction condition is a pwoblem for females, ya know XX rated? When I think of it I imagine a balsa wood toy airplane with a rubber band plastic propeller. Wind tight for pushin' air.

      April 22, 2013 at 6:24 pm |
    • midwest rail

      Please show where in the KJV the following words occur : pwogwessive, socie, commie mommie. Thank you.

      April 22, 2013 at 6:26 pm |
    • Akira

      Want to know what word does appear in KJV? "Unicorn."

      April 22, 2013 at 6:50 pm |
    • lol??


      BTW, "It's no fantasy—the so-called Arabian unicorn is alive and well in Middle Eastern deserts, conservationists have announced." Is that the one mentioned? Who knows?

      April 22, 2013 at 7:21 pm |
    • midwest rail

      Still lookin' for those links to the KJV, lol?? Shocked, I tell you, just shocked.

      April 22, 2013 at 7:50 pm |
    • Akira

      Cool article.

      "A frequent muse for Arabic poetry and paintings, the Arabian oryx resembles a unicorn in profile, when its two long horns appear to fuse into one.

      But it seemed the hardy antelope was headed for an entirely fictional existence in 1972, when only six animals existed in the wild."

      One would think, if they existed alongside these animals, they would be aware that they have 2 horns, and the likelihood of viewing these beautiful animals only in profile is stretching the imagination.

      April 22, 2013 at 8:25 pm |
    • lol??

      Right Akira, the context of the unicorn in scripture is strength. The antelope is not known for this characteristic, however, I'm not sure about the prolope. Still it can't be the animal mentioned, and a cutesy pink horse fails the test, too.

      April 22, 2013 at 11:07 pm |
  4. clarity

    God is real. Jesus is the answer. Atheism is a delusional form of stupidity and stubbornness

    April 22, 2013 at 2:46 pm |
    • Hans

      "Atheism is a delusional form of stupidity and stubbornness"

      You are not a Christian and you bring shame to Christ.

      James 4:11-12
      Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?

      James 1:26
      If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless.

      Ephesians 4:31-32
      Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.

      April 22, 2013 at 2:50 pm |
    • .


      They also stole another users handle.

      April 22, 2013 at 2:51 pm |

      I assume you're being sarcastic???

      April 22, 2013 at 2:51 pm |
    • Optimus

      To ridicule the beliefs of others in that fashion is a clear indication of someone that doesn't have faith in their own beliefs.

      April 22, 2013 at 2:51 pm |

      Atheism is of hinduism denial of truth absolute, not of human, but of primates, hindu secular, ignorant self centered by nature, followed by hindus ignorant s as their forefathers, also known as hindu ignorant Evolution, faith of hindus, ignorant s.

      April 22, 2013 at 2:52 pm |
    • ME II

      People are real. Let's find our own answers.

      April 22, 2013 at 2:54 pm |
    • R.M. Goodswell

      @ False clarity

      "God is real"

      Really? talk to him lately? has ANYONE ever talked to him? ...

      no? just middlemen? ...hmmm....

      April 22, 2013 at 3:14 pm |


      April 22, 2013 at 3:24 pm |
  5. clarity

    In the book of Genesis...Chapter 1 verse 1....In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. God is real. Jesus is the answer.

    April 22, 2013 at 2:39 pm |
    • oOo

      B.S. dishonest Christian name-stealer. Why do Christians have to lie for their God?

      April 22, 2013 at 2:48 pm |
  6. Linda

    Anyone can pluck a few sentences or paragraphs out of any book to support their own view. Let's not, because it gives a false picture of the whole. Where the Quran is concerned, I would have to read the whole book to judge for myself, rather than taking anyone's word on what it truly says. Where the Bible is concerned, many point to the Old Testament to prove how violent Christians have been or can be. This also gives a false picture. The Old Testament was under an old covenant ( strictly for the Hebrews only) and all of its content pointed the way to Jesus Christ, the new covenant and a different way to live. Jesus taught that under the old covenant, for instance, it was an eye for an eye. But under the new covenant, he said that even a man who thinks ill of another person or has hate in his heart is guilty of murder. In the Old Testament, only the Hebrew nation was under the laws of God; under the new covenant, all of us – every single person – is under the new law which is fulfilled in Christ: that being, to love God above all else with all your heart, soul, mind and being and to love your neighbor as yourself. Therefore, under the new covenant, if a Christian murders, he is not truly a follower of Christ. Oh, and to state the obvious, there were no Christians prior to Christ's birth, death and resurrection. As for the crusades, many so called followers of Christ were coerced by the church to kill and pillage. Many did not know better since many could not read and scripture was fed to them according to the views, wants and needs of the ministers of the day. And do not forget, all religions in days past have killed and pillaged to advance their own borders.

    April 22, 2013 at 2:25 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
      For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
      And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
      He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
      Matthew 10: 34-37

      April 22, 2013 at 2:29 pm |
    • David from Canada

      To address ur 1st Q:
      Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding text. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant today for followers to act on.

      April 22, 2013 at 2:30 pm |
    • Evenstar

      "For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. " Matthew 24:5

      April 22, 2013 at 2:31 pm |
    • Suq Madiq

      "Jesus taught that under the old covenant, for instance, it was an eye for an eye. But under the new covenant, he said that even a man who thinks ill of another person or has hate in his heart is guilty of murder."

      I see. So it wasn't God changing his rules for God never changes, it was mankind who changed... er wait, now i'm confused...

      Almighty, never changing, always right Yhwh say's that the law is an eye for an eye... but then later he say's when you are attacked to turn the other cheek... but thats not changing, it's, um, adapting, yes, adapting... the bible playing it's own game of survival of the fittest with it's doctrine... One might think whats good for the goose is good for the gander but not so when it comes to hebrews and christians apparently...

      April 22, 2013 at 2:35 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      There is nothing to support that the OT is now invalid. That's just a lie that Christians like to believe so they can pick and choose what they want out of their immoral book.

      April 22, 2013 at 2:39 pm |
    • R.M. Goodswell

      "if a Christian murders, he is not truly a follower of Christ."
      the Muslims say the same....

      With the above statements, this lunacy will never end..

      Your religions are all made up....all of them. all of this FOR NOTHING.

      please tell me, at what point will people finally admit theres a problem with the message....Religions need enemies, some kind of strife to stir up fear...its the Christian, the Muslims, the gays, the atheists, the scientists....on and on.

      April 22, 2013 at 2:42 pm |
    • hawaiiguest


      True. Let's face it, the only thing keeping Catholics and Baptists from ripping each other apart is the Muslims and Atheists.

      April 22, 2013 at 2:45 pm |
    • R.M. Goodswell

      @ hawaiiguest

      Yuppers....with Atheists being the worst...guess facts are particularly hard to fight.

      April 22, 2013 at 2:59 pm |
    • ME II

      God's plan is revealed? lol

      April 22, 2013 at 3:00 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @ME II

      More than likely not. All I know is, is that the Christian religion is turning more and more into a feel good passive thing, and the religious right and fundamentalist denominations have had to scream louder and louder. People are starting not to listen, and it's really only a matter of time before it becomes mainly irrelevant.

      April 22, 2013 at 3:05 pm |
  7. Yasir

    The Quran gave the right to muslims to lie to the nonbelievers that is how muslims are so good at the art of manipulation. Americans are too naive are not aware of such tactics. The appear to them in the clothes of sheep and in reality they are wolves. But finally America is waking up. As their prophet Mohammad said "war is a trick and depends how good are you in tricking you enemy" DON'T LET MUSLIMS FOOL YOU you can see that they hate your guts.

    April 22, 2013 at 2:20 pm |
    • Suq Madiq

      Lying for God is not uncommon in religion and is also found in the Mormon faith. The end's always justify the means when it comes to a religion doing what it wants to.

      April 22, 2013 at 2:38 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      And Saint Augustine taught that it is OK for Christians to lie to, threaten, and torture pagans to gain their conversion.
      Cognite intrare – lead them in.

      It was the ratioanlization for countless atrocitiesm, like the inquisition.

      April 22, 2013 at 2:59 pm |
  8. Evenstar

    It is interesting perhaps to note that the Quran uses the term "Non-believers". Could it be a mis-interpretation of the phrase. I am no muslim but rather a Catholic and think that perhaps the phrase is directed at people who were and are referred to as pagan. That is someone who does not believe in God. Like so many that use religion as a crutch for their anger, could it be that they have twisted the phrase to fit their evil designs?

    April 22, 2013 at 2:14 pm |
    • The Catholic Boat

      Kind of like how catholicism twisted everything completely out of context and transformed into nothing more than boring rituals that have nothing to do with the bible and at the same time practices things expressly forbidden by the bible? Man, I don't know. Maybe you should just read the book and figure it out. Read the bible too while you're at it.

      April 22, 2013 at 2:22 pm |
    • Evenstar

      The Catholis Boat:
      I agree, and I do read the bible almost every day. The Church has many sins to account for, but I believe in Jesus Christ and what the Church is suppose to be, not what it has become.

      April 22, 2013 at 2:27 pm |
    • David from Canada

      Infidel includes Christian and Jew:
      Quran 5:54 "O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people." –

      April 22, 2013 at 2:34 pm |
  9. Divdar

    But it was no issue to give last rites to Osama bin Laden?

    April 22, 2013 at 2:12 pm |
    • Akira

      I remember articles about that topic.

      April 22, 2013 at 5:22 pm |
    • Akira

      I'm about to wet my pants now, I better become a muslim!

      April 22, 2013 at 9:53 pm |
    • Saraswati

      Huh? This is just one person, not any government decision.

      April 22, 2013 at 9:57 pm |
  10. Pam Warren

    I believe that most Muslims are peaceful and I don't understand what was going on with the brothers. One thing that has been bothering me is that this is the third incident like this in the Boston area. The FBI arrested a young man from Sudbury, MA for making threats on the internet. I think he said he was planning on blowing up a shopping mall. Then they arrested a young man from Framingham, MA who was planning on flying a remote control airplane with explosives into a government target. Both of these men were Muslim. What is going on with these young people and why does it seem that they are all from the same area? It makes me wonder if they are being recruited somehow.

    April 22, 2013 at 2:09 pm |
    • Suq Madiq

      " Then they arrested a young man from Framingham, MA who was planning on flying a remote control airplane with explosives into a government target."

      Well he was obviously framed...

      April 22, 2013 at 2:40 pm |
  11. lol??

    The enemy of my enemy is a jerk, too.

    April 22, 2013 at 2:05 pm |
  12. mork121

    I'm sorry–he killed 3 people. The only right he had was to die.

    April 22, 2013 at 1:58 pm |

      Four people.

      April 22, 2013 at 2:01 pm |
  13. Goaty McCheese

    I don't know enough about Islam to know what is appropriate here but if this man were confirmed Catholic I would say he deserves extreme unction. Everyone deserves a chance of salvation – it's between him and God now.

    April 22, 2013 at 1:53 pm |
    • Ms Viv

      I agree.

      April 22, 2013 at 2:02 pm |
  14. David from Canada

    The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule.

    Quran (8:12) – "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
    Quran (8:65) – "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

    And on and on – RELIGION OF PEACE?

    April 22, 2013 at 1:41 pm |
    • RockoT

      The Christian bible also has references that seem violent by today's standards.

      The truth of the matter is that we have some radical muslim sects that call for violence, and most Muslim groups – especially in the United States – truly do not, and call for peace.

      I remember Hillary Clinton talking one time about how true Muslims believe in equality and it's a distortion of Muslim faith to think the man runs the family.

      Well – when did Hillary Clinton become a devout Muslim? She never did, she just recognizes that the book will eventually be interpreted any darn way society says it should be interpreted.

      If we are being pragmatic – most Muslims in the U.S. really do love peace. Sorry, but that's actually fact.
      The Koran has words of war, and words of peace. Same with the Christian bible.

      Religion was just the excuse – Tamerlan appears to have wanted to become part of a war, for reasons only he knows.

      April 22, 2013 at 2:06 pm |
    • chelle

      So does the Bible...your point?

      April 22, 2013 at 2:06 pm |
    • tspmuslim

      What about the other 6000+ verses? Its a big book

      April 22, 2013 at 2:15 pm |
    • dt

      Read the Old Testament. Even more violence. The problem is religion gone berserk, not any one single religion.

      April 22, 2013 at 2:15 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      I call bs on the Canadian part...I'd like to think that people here are not so ignorant and bigoted but I could be wrong and Dave probably resides in one of less populated area's of the country.

      April 22, 2013 at 2:32 pm |
    • David from Canada

      To prove Islam is a religion of Murder, click on CNN "world" tab and then "Middle East" and see the daily suicide bombings perpetrated in Islamic countries. Not a day goes by without Muslims killing Muslims – many bombs detonate in Mosques – ie religious centers – those at the forefront of Islamic teachings.

      April 22, 2013 at 2:39 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      David who is not portraying Canada well: All religions have extremists, there is no question about that. While I do not condone what these young men did and I do not condone any of the other attacks by Muslims, it is bigoted and ignorant to assume that all Muslims are alike. If you were in a Muslim country and christians were pulling the same thing, christianity would be viewed the way you're viewing all Muslims. Take away the religion factor and this crap doesn't exist. It's the battle of who has the bigger god and the 'proper' interpretation of the holy book that causes craziness to this extreme.

      April 22, 2013 at 2:47 pm |
    • Heaven Sent


      April 22, 2013 at 2:49 pm |
    • Science

      Hey HS.................... that is good they got them off the street....................what is the point............you as crazy as they are ?

      April 22, 2013 at 3:07 pm |
    • khan

      @david the quotes from Quran is proving to be right in my knowledge.....the situation of Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan,killing innocent civilians(including children,women) on daily basis wont bring peace in the world. else its creating more hatred..and okk i will consider other peace loving religions for a moment bt people following it are not at all peaceful?I have seen the cruelty of NATO forces in Afghanistan..its shameful.... any1 can answer me why the world is so over reacting to boston bombing?wat abt 1000s of innocent people dying everyday in Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine?

      April 22, 2013 at 3:43 pm |
    • HeavenSent


      FYI with love. God Bless.


      April 22, 2013 at 3:43 pm |
  15. ONYX

    BOSSRAW... you are wrong as always. in a post 9/11 world im sorry to say but, there really isnt any place for islam in america.

    April 22, 2013 at 1:41 pm |
    • Rich

      Given that the very reason for America's foundation was to protect one's right to worship (or not worship) as they please, you are sincerely incorrect. All religions are protected and must be. This does not mean, however, that followers of any given faith are permitted to ignore the rest of our laws. Murder is murder, regardless of one's reasons for committing it.

      April 22, 2013 at 1:50 pm |
    • Saraswati


      I agree that all religions are to be protected to worship freely. And the right of others to criticize beliefs of those religions is also to be protected.

      April 22, 2013 at 1:51 pm |

      What if that religion commands its followers to kill non-believers? What then? Do you believe it should be protected?

      April 22, 2013 at 1:57 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Their right to worship should still be protected. They don't have a right to murder. That's why we are a nation of laws and not a theocracy.

      April 22, 2013 at 2:03 pm |
    • lol??

      Wrong, you have a pastor-in-chief. He's inclusive and spreads the pain.

      April 22, 2013 at 2:08 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Shall we outlaw Christians as well?
      There's the Manmasi National Christian Army and the National Liberation Front of Tripura, who force Hindus to convert at gun point and are known to encourage the murder of Hindu children.
      Those people are simply following Saint Augustine's doctrine of 'cognite intrare' – or 'lead them in' which justifies and encourages torture, vandalism, forced conversions and using violence to convert others in the name of Christianity.
      How about The Army of God and other groups who kill doctors in the U.S. ?
      What about white supremacist Christian terrorist groups like the Aryan Nations, Aryan Republican Army, Phineas Priesthood, and The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord?

      Any proposition that relies on faith can and will be twisted by unscrupulous individuals for their own gain. Its just far too easy to manipulate those who are willing to suspend critical thinking and accept something without evidence.

      The Statue of Liberty's plaque doesn't say "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free (but only if they're white, European Christians)".

      April 22, 2013 at 2:09 pm |
    • R.M. Goodswell

      Religious freedom is a right granted by the US const itution – as long as that religion is not hostile to the citizens of this country.

      Muslims claim that they are peaceful..that its just a few bad guys stirring up trouble.... well if a few bad guys can change the world the way they have in the last couple of decades, id hate to see what happens when 2 billion get stirred up, which is looking ever more likely as Iran inches toward nuclear capable status.

      Another thing.. as Muslims stir thing up, they risk galvanizing the Christians to return to a much more hardline way of operating. Theres 3 billion more ... gonna be a lovely party in a decade or so if we cant cut loose of this crap.

      That's why theres no middle ground for me...it why I cant be an Agnostic...we need to lose it all! , now! , today....

      April 22, 2013 at 2:15 pm |

      That is outside of the point I was trying to make. The open "right" to do as one wishes in accordance with its book of stupid is protected. The law means nothing to one who has already committed the act. And it sure doesn't help the victims.

      If it promotes and commands these kinds of acts, should it still be protected?

      April 22, 2013 at 2:15 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Inciting violence is against the law. Religious worship is not. Yes, the right to worship should be protected, just as the right to free speech protects the Westboro Baptist idiot. People can worship and believe whatever they want. Acting on it is another story.

      April 22, 2013 at 2:19 pm |
    • lol??

      Doc, it looks like you couldn't figure out how "The Statue of Liberty....." was a Trojan horse. It was payback by the French for stiffin' them on war debts. Understand now?

      April 22, 2013 at 2:24 pm |

      Acting on it is REQUIRED by the belief. Worship means nothing to a believer if they are prevented from taking part in all requirements set forth by their ancient cave-book. This is akin to being forced to sin. Believers believe that god's law is higher than man's, therefore act in accordance with the commandments of their belief system. It's either all or nothing. We are talking about a belief system that requires these kinds of acts.

      AGAIN: Should it protected?

      Westboro's only intelligent decision thus far is in that they haven't taken part in violence. At least as far as I'm aware. If there have been a couple of isolated fist fights or anything of that nature, then I stand corrected. But they haven't pulled the kind of crap the Boston guys did. Freedom of speech (which is only partially protected to a point that most Americans do not understand) is a far cry from religion, which in some cases requires the belief system to act in violence. Just because violence is illegal doesn't mean they won't do it.

      April 22, 2013 at 2:36 pm |
    • The real Tom

      In this country, we don't arrest and prosecute people based on what they might do. What part of that don't you understand?

      April 22, 2013 at 2:57 pm |

      Nevermind. I can see you're here for arguing and trolling only now that I've seen your comments on a couple of other pages. Anyone that isn't here to troll or argue just to get its rocks off is free to respond. By the way, I never said anything about arresting people for what they might do. My point flew right over your head.

      April 22, 2013 at 3:11 pm |
    • The real Tom

      No, it didn't. You want to abrogate the rights of people to worship. We don't take rights away from people who have done nothing criminal. I think you are the one who wants to argue. You just can't get any traction because you don't have a point.

      April 22, 2013 at 3:16 pm |

      You're the one that put words in my mouth for the sole purpose of validating your own incompetent argument. But hey, I don't have any traction, right?

      Anyway, nice "chatting" with you. *fart*

      April 22, 2013 at 3:27 pm |
    • HeavenSent


      FYI with love. God Bless.


      April 22, 2013 at 3:42 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Go fvck yourself, Gott. You came here with an inane post and were itching for someone to argue with. You got what you wanted.

      April 22, 2013 at 5:20 pm |
  16. David from Canada

    The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule.
    Quran (3:151) – "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers.
    Quran (2:191-193) – "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out. Quran (5:33) – "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered"
    And on and on – RELIGION OF PEACE?

    April 22, 2013 at 1:38 pm |
    • Thoth

      shall we start plucking lines from the various versions of the bible as well?

      April 22, 2013 at 1:43 pm |

      Go ahead Thoth. That book sucks too.

      April 22, 2013 at 1:55 pm |
    • Aman

      Yes it is – if you are going to choose to quote 3 verses out of the thousands that talk about doing good deeds, protecting human life, respecting, patriotism, loyalty and everything in between, you are doing gross injustice to your own intellect.
      Those verses are in a specific context and if you read the whole book you will know that – but maybe you do but you have this need to paint a different picture to promote islamophobia?
      Islam is a religion of peace and humility that is practiced by over ONE billion people all over the world. It has over a million followers in Canada and close to 10 Million in the USA.
      Let me also say that what is again so very apparent is the media bias – that has to highlight the religion of any bad guy who happened to be a Muslim – you did not hear religion being highlighted in the reporting of Colorado shooting or numerous other atrocities and acts of terror. There are bad apples amongst every community and each person needs to be held accountable for their acts – not take an entire community/sect/religion to trial when someone commits this horrendous acts.

      April 22, 2013 at 4:24 pm |
  17. Candlewycke

    "A person who is devoted does not kill innocent people," Eid said.

    This one statement totally invalidates every other sentiment in the article. It doesn't matter what a person is devoted to, the simple act of devotion is a stepping stone towards fanaticism if not held in check. Anyone who would try to argue that devotion somehow absolves someone of being able to murder is either a deluded fool or deliberately trying to hide something.

    April 22, 2013 at 1:35 pm |
  18. ThaBossRaw

    I don't know what should be done in his burial.I am a Muslim.There are many people whom have committed crimes and they get a burial with a priest.If so called Imams want to distance themselves that is their right.As far as non Muslims commenting on our procedures in burial.You are out of order as always.True Muslims do want peace and should not harm anyone at all possible.

    April 22, 2013 at 1:35 pm |
    • Gail D

      It is not our place to judge, that is God's (Allah's) right. We do not walk in their shoes or know their state of mind. We have the right to protect ourselves and society from those that would do us harm.

      April 22, 2013 at 1:54 pm |

      Funny, but your last sentence contradicts the book of your cult. Why you believe it to be true in the first place is beyond anyone. It is based off of christianity and judaism, which by the very words of the bible itself have been proven to be fiction.

      April 22, 2013 at 1:54 pm |
  19. nleeklay

    (if you do not like the truth, or love it, do not read this)

    well, the older brother is in hell now. what kind of parents to this girl who was married to him were they? they said, in a statement, that they never really knew him? really? you have a daughter, and then when it is time for her to think about marriage, you don't even get to know who she is marrying? where are God's people? why did this woman convert to a demonic religion like Islam? because she needed something. how terrible and sad. people don't see that the Bible is the only word from God. they reject it. and because they reject it, they do not know how to raise their children. this woman's parents didn't know how to raise her, and the dead man's parents didn't know how to raise him. people need to realize that everyone has a soul, and that means that their children have souls too. this means that their children will spend eternity in either heaven or hell. the older brother is in hell now. look at the results of rejecting Christ. your daughter marries a bomber, and you are so foolish that you don't even know what kind of person he is (as the parents said). your daughter "converts" to a religion that does only one thing, besides causing havoc in this world, and that is brings people to hell. Jesus made everything clear in the New Testament. He is God. He came to show us what God was like. He loves you. He is the only Savior of the world. He came to give life and that more abundantly, he says, in the book of John. In the same area, Christ says that the thief (i.e. Satan) comes to steal and kill and destroy. Well, Satan destroyed the older brother, who is in hell now. Satan stole this woman's husband. Satan killed people in the bombing because the parents of this man did not follow the Lord. There is a liar in the world. His name is Satan. There is a truthteller in this world. His name is the Lord Jesus, and His word is the holy Bible.

    April 22, 2013 at 1:28 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      So your omnipotent, omniscient god is only responsible for the good things in this universe, and someone else is to blame for the bad things? How convenient!

      April 22, 2013 at 1:31 pm |
    • Diann

      You don't know if this man is in Hell. No one but he, God and Satan knows for certain. If used his last break to say three words, "Father, forgive me" and MEAN it in all sincerity, the Bible says that God is faithful and just to forgive. No one should assume to know the final destination of his soul.

      April 22, 2013 at 1:43 pm |
    • Richard Cranium

      Wasn't it your god that created satan knowing full well the outcome?

      Your god created a fall guy for his evil side, and you willingly blame this fall guy.

      Your god created satan, and is responsible for anything it does.

      April 22, 2013 at 1:53 pm |
    • Emily

      Also, in response to the Imam who would not bury the deceased terrorist, and to those who say he is in hell, here is a Christian response which reflects the qualities of the Christian God, and accordingly, Christian faith:


      April 22, 2013 at 5:00 pm |
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    April 22, 2013 at 1:27 pm |
    • meifumado

      Hi =)

      April 22, 2013 at 2:22 pm |
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