By Daniel Burke, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor
(CNN) – God may not notice the thousands of prayers tweeted for victims of Oklahoma’s devastating tornado – but Ricky Gervais sure has. And he is not pleased.
As of Tuesday afternoon, more than 75,000 people have used the hashtag #PrayForOklahoma, including pop starlets, pastors and politicians, according to Topsy.com, a trend-monitoring site.
For example, the White House tweeted,
President Obama: “Our prayers are with the people of Oklahoma today.” #PrayForOklahoma
— The White House (@WhiteHouse) May 21, 2013
President Obama: “Our prayers are with the people of Oklahoma today.” #PrayForOklahoma
— The White House (@WhiteHouse) May 21, 2013
But the hashtag and the sentiments it promotes prompted a fierce backlash on social media, led by Gervais, a British comedian, and other prominent nonbelievers.
And while one Oklahoma City pastor says he appreciates the Twitter prayers, some religious scholars say devout petitions require more than moving your hands across a keyboard.
"A prayer is supposed to have a consequence for you," said Elizabeth Drescher, a lecturer at Santa Clara University in California. "It's not an act of magic."
Gervais, an ardent foe of organized religion, was more caustic.
After MTV tweeted that pop stars Beyonce, Rihanna and Katy Perry are sending their prayers to Oklahoma, Gervais responded, “I feel like an idiot now … I only sent money.”
Gervais and other atheists also kick-started a counter-trend, using the hashtag #ActuallyDoSomethingForOklahoma.
“If all people are doing is praying, it is worthless,” Hemant Mehta, an Illinois math teacher who writes the blog “Friendly Atheist,” told CNN. “If they are praying and donating to the Red Cross, that’s more like it.”
Mehta is promoting a group called Foundation Beyond Belief that aims to provide a humanist response to crises like the Oklahoma tornado.
The prayer debate spilled into other social media sites as well, with commenters on CNN’s Facebook page sparring over God’s role in Monday’s destructive whirlwind.
According to Oklahoma officials, 24 people have died, many more are injured, and once-orderly streets look likes foretastes of the apocalypse.
In response to a woman who said she was praying for the victims, Facebook commenter Peter Tongue replied, “If prayer works, there wouldn’t be a disaster like this in the first place .... so please keep your religion to yourself.”
But believers had their say as well.
“God is still in control!” said Wilbur Dugger, a commenter on CNN’s Facebook page. “Everything (God) does is to get our attention. … My sympathy and prayers go out to those who get caught up in his demonstrations of (God) ruling the world.”
The social-media sparring over prayer and God’s will reflect a culture in which traditional notions of religion - and the places where people talk about faith - are changing faster than a Twitter feed, said Drescher, the Santa Clara lecturer.
“We’re watching people re-articulate what it means to be spiritual and religious,” she said.
Just a few years ago, for example, no one knew what a hashtag was. Now the “#PrayFor...” meme appears after almost every national and international tragedy.
But what exactly does it mean? Is the tweeting multitude really folding its hands in prayer, or is it a fleeting expression of existential angst? Or maybe just a trendy thing to say?
“It seems to express hope and anxiety, and maybe even helplessness,” Drescher said.
“At the same time, it evokes this strong response from people who see it as a cop-out, a way of claiming some kind of spiritual space that doesn’t actually have any meaning to the people who are posting the meme or the community they are addressing.”
Traditionally, prayer has required something of the pray-er: an orientation toward reverence, a readiness to act, Drescher continued. “You are meant to do something - and that something may not be an easy thing.”
Slapping a hashtag at the end of a tweet doesn’t meet that standard, the scholar said.
The Rev. David Johnson of St. Andrew’s United Methodist Church in Oklahoma City said the prayerful tweets mean something to him - even if he’s been too busy to read them.
Since Monday, St. Andrew’s has become a Red Cross command post and reunion site for families to find loved ones caught in the tornado’s path. The tragedy has also touched the congregation itself, with homes, and some lives, lost on Tuesday, Johnson said.
Told of the Twitter prayers, Johnson said, “that’s awesome.”
“People feel helpless - like God called them to do something but they don’t know what. That’s where prayer comes in.”
Johnson said his church appreciates the many material donations coming its way: the generator sent by a lady from Arkansas, the food and water sent from neighboring towns. But they also solicit, and are happy to receive, the many prayers recited - or tweeted - on their behalf, he said.
“We’ve seen quite a lot of trauma in the last day,” Johnson said. “Obviously, people are going to ask why God allows tornadoes to happen. That’s just part of this world. God doesn’t promise us that bad things won’t happen, he promises to help us get through it. That’s what prayer helps us do.”
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Why does God hate Oklahoma so much? I live in Denver, a very liberal city but we don't have the forest fires that Colorado Springs does. Colorado Springs is a very, very, very religious enclave – its the home of Focus on the Family and at least 50 other faith based organizations. And still God is bringing his wrath down on those folks, while we liberals and non-believers in Denver and Boulder are sitting pretty.
Yes prayer without action is useless and action without prayer is equally useless. But prayer does come in the first place before prayer: if you don't pray how will you get the vibrancy and motivation for charitable acts!
Are you kidding me? I don't need to pray in order to treat people the way I'd like to be treated. That's just being a decent human, no god required.
But I thought that was what Christianity was all about-Talking the talk without having to walk the walk. Most Christians are just posers-judgmental, hateful posers.
PsalAm 83.-13. YEHWEH CAME TO EARTH TRIMLBE EDGE BUILDING A STORM FROM HEAVENS TO SHOW PEOPLE HE DOES EXIST BURKE, GOD HAS RISEN FROM THE DEAD TO PAY ALL WAGES OF SIN ,, PEOPLE LOST HOPE MANY YEARS AGO WHEN ALL THEY CARED ABOUT WAS CHRISTMAS GIFTS AND DINNER ALL THE MAN MADE HOLIDAYS DID WE FORGET THE ONLY FORGOTTON SON JESUS CHRIST YES WE DID HIS BIRTHDAY HIS RESURICION,," GO IN THE BIBLE AND READ PSALAM83-13/88-19 YOU WILL FIND THE TRUTH" HE IS SENDING ALL THE PEOPLE A MESSAGE TELLING THEM TO LEAVE THAT CITY LEAVE IT AT ITS CROPS HE DOES NOT WANT PEOPLE IN THE CITIES WHERE THERE IS ALWAYS TORNADOES WHY DO YOU CITY KEEP BUILDING BUISNESS AND HOMES IF YOU KNOW THE DISASTERS HE HAS GIVING ALOT OF HOPE TO DIFFRENT CITIES.... THAT MEANS THAT NORMAN MOORE AND ALL THE COUNTIES THAT WERE STRUCK BY LIGHTING AND WICKED STORMS YOU SHOULD BE AFFRAID AND RUN FAR AWAY . LEAVE THE CITY HE SAYS I WILL DESTROY EVERYTHING TO ITS CROPS,,,, wHY DO PEOPLE BLAME GOD WHY???? IF IT HAPPENED ONCE TWICE THREE TIMES PLEASE LISTEN TO THE WORD OF GOD AND MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE DONT BE LEFT BEHIND REMEMBER THIS IS HIS LAND HE CREATED IT AND WE BUILT IT AND TOOK ADVANTAGE OF ALL OBSTICLES IN LIFE AND BEGAN A GOVERNMENT THAT WAS NEVER HEARD OF MANY 1000"S YEARS AGO WHO SHOULD BE BLAME I THINK ITS OBVIOUS
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Get a fucking clue. Your imaginary friend is nothing more than that, imaginary. And learn how to turn off the goddamned caps lock.
WHO HEARS THESE PRAYERS??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Well, if you are on the phone, apparently Obama and the NSA does; so, make sure you don't tell God anything that could offend Obama.
way to make it political
Nobody out of earshot (if you even say them). Duh.
For Christians please read this:
If you as a father or mother has to choose one of the below two choices, please tell me which one you will choose:
1-all your kids are to die.
2-You'll be beaten to death.
Normally and logically all of you will choose the second one.
Why that choice? Because dying for one time is better than dying every day.
Those who lost their kids are dying every day to the rest of their life.
Also Those who are sick with dangerous diseases are dying every day.
Those who lost their wives or husbands or beloveds are dying every day.
And too many others are suffering and dying every hour because of the pain of the soul not the body.
Actually the suffering body is nothing comparing with the suffering soul.
Actually That concept destroying your faith from the base……………how?
We can ask for how many hours the Christ suffered? Two hours? three hours? ten hours?
Actually If he was sick for many years, or if he lost his family or if he lost much of his beloveds and dears or if he passed all these things then we can say that he suffered for the human kind.
But suffering by beaten for few hours for all the human kind for all the time a little child can not believe it.
That is why you can find too much atheists in your sociaty because what they found in Christianity is against the logic and the brain.
If the forgiveness is by beaten, then what a cheap price for forgiveness.
Assuming there's even a shred of truth to the whole crucifiction story (not that there's any rational reason for doing so), Jesus (for whose existence there is absolutely no historical evidence) basically had a spectacularly lousy weekend for your sins. Dead for three days, then went on to rule a celestial Disneyland. Some sacrifice.
You don't seriously BELIEVE any of this nonsense, do you?
the christ is there but he didnt die,and he will come again.
but most of the bible is fake,this is not the real bible.
because of that we find too much atheists in the christian socities.
try to read about Islam and dont care about what they are saying in the media.
These catastrophic events are due to mankind's sins. We wanted to take everything into our own hands and be a self-ruled world. We did not want God's ways nor did we want to be ruled by Him. Now when mankind sees they are not in control and never will be, they want to play the blaming game. Point the finger at God when He allowed what the world has been begging for, for Him to stay out the lives of humans. Salvation is indeed offered through grace to all of mankind, but very few actually accept this free gift of love. God will not and cannot accept someone who with their freewill chooses to reject Him. He does not force anyone to love Him, nor will He grant eternal life to those who are in love with death. God is life and the Creator of it, the opposite of Him is death. God is a just God PERFECT in His judgments. YOU weep what YOU sow. www . theeternalwisdom . com visit this website if you truly desire to learn truth and who God is.
"Salvation is indeed offered through grace to all of mankind, but very few actually accept this free gift of love."
Everyone already knows the story of who your god is, but, as you've pointed out, fewer and fewer people find it believable. Thank goodness.
Your god is a vindictive, petty pr1ck
"God will not and cannot accept someone who with their freewill chooses to reject Him."
How can freewill exist in the same reality as an omniscient god?
As far as you proxy threats go, go fvck yourself
Please cite your scriptural reference for believing in free will.
Christians just can't seem to remember they were told NOT to pray in public, but to go into their closets
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The world now is ruling by the antichrist but no one wants to believe.
Especially US is completely under the antichrist control because he is ruling the world thru it.
CNN is one of his official channels which through he can control the brains and concepts of people.
He planned for the 9/11 attacks and they said Muslims did it, and as usual people believe whatever they are saying.
See now how he can play with your brains and eyes using numbers,letters and words to know what is going on and what CNN is:
Take a look on the CNN logo and read it upside and down you will get............. MD.......it means (M)onth and (D)ay.
Read it from left to right you will get.............. 911.
Read it from right to left and be ready for the shoke as you will get...............WTC......... read the T upside down.
Please tell those who are sleeping to awake before it is too late.
Most of the folks who comment here don't even bother to read the articles. Off Topic is de rigueur (like your post is).
Watch out for Lex Luthor, as well as your "antichrist", bud.
Christians should do something beyond just "praying" or not be calling themselves Christians
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bonehead, proof god sent them to hell. thanks babe
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