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June 14th, 2013
04:05 PM ET

Superman: Flying to a church near you

By Eric Marrapodi, Co-Editor CNN Belief Blog

Baltimore, Maryland (CNN) - As the new Superman movie takes flight this weekend, filmmakers are hoping the Man of Steel lands not only in theaters, but also in pulpits.

Warner Bros. Studios is aggressively marketing "Man of Steel" to Christian pastors, inviting them to early screenings, creating Father’s Day discussion guides and producing special film trailers that focus on the faith-friendly angles of the movie.

The movie studio even asked a theologian to provide sermon notes for pastors who want to preach about Superman on Sunday. Titled “Jesus: The Original Superhero,” the notes run nine pages.

“How might the story of Superman awaken our passion for the greatest hero who ever lived and died and rose again?” the sermon notes ask.

(Disclaimer: CNN, like Warner Bros., is owned by Time Warner.)

Similar campaigns to corral the country's large number of Christians into the movie theater have been used for "Les Miserables," "Soul Surfer" and "The Blind Side," all of which had at least some faith angle.

Baltimore pastor Quentin Scott is among dozens of ministers who received an e-mail invitation from Grace Hill Media, a Hollywood-based Christian marketing firm, to an early screening of “Man of Steel.”

“There was an actual push to say `We’re putting out something that speaks to your group,' ” said Scott, one of the pastors of Shiloh Christian Community Church in Baltimore.

At first, Scott said, he didn’t buy the religious pitch. Then he decided to attend a free midweek screening in Baltimore.

“When I sat and listened to the movie I actually saw it was the story of Christ, and the love of God was weaved into the story," said the pastor.

"It was something I was very excited about that with the consultation of our senior pastor, we could use in our congregation.”

CNN Entertainment: 'Man of Steel' director Zack Snyder on Superman's Christ-like parallels

Grace Hill’s sermon notes are specially designed for churches like Shiloh that integrate multimedia into their services.

“Let’s take a look at the trailer for `Man of Steel,’” the notes suggest after briefly introducing the movie’s history and themes.

The man behind the notes, Pepperdine University professor Craig Detweiler, has prepared similar material for films like 2009’s "The Blind Side" and "The Book of Eli" from 2010.

The spiritual themes in “Man of Steel” are abundant, Detweiler said, and his notes enable Christians to thoughtfully engage with pop culture instead of shunning it.

“All too often, religious communities have been defined by what they're against. With a movie like `Man of Steel,’ this is a chance to celebrate a movie that affirms faith, sacrifice and service,” Detweiler said.

It will be hard for even casual Christians to miss the messianic metaphors in "Man of Steel.”

The movie focuses on the origins of Superman, who was sent from the planet Krypton as an infant to save his species.

He is raised by surrogate parents who help him grapple with his special powers, even though they don’t fully understand the source of his extraordinary abilities.

When he turns 33, Superman must willingly sacrifice himself to save the human race.

Sound familiar?

If that’s not enough, as a boy Clark Kent is shown wrestling with his superpowers, and asks his earthly dad, Jonathan Kent, “Did God do this to me?”

“Somewhere out there you have another father and he sent you here for a reason,” says Jonathan Kent.

Even the visuals hammer home the messianic motifs.

During a fight with his archenemy, General Zod, Superman plunges down to Earth, his arms outstretched as if he were being crucified. Of course, he rises again.

Detweiler writes in the sermon notes, “What Jesus and Superman both give us, through their `hero’ actions but also their `human’ actions – is hope.”

“I think it’s a very good thing that Hollywood is paying attention to the Christian marketplace,” said Ted Baehr, who runs Movieguide, a website that reviews family friendly films from a Christian perspective.

“Where it gets sticky is when they try to manipulate the market and when Christians try to manipulate Hollywood. But here I think we have the right balance.”

But other Christians are heaving a supersized sigh at the movie marketing.

"Any pastor who thinks using `Man of Steel Ministry Resources' is a good Sunday morning strategy must have no concept of how high the stakes are, or very little confidence in the power of God’s word and God’s spirit," writes P.J. Wenzel, a deacon and Sunday School teacher at Dublin Baptist Church in Ohio.

"As they entertain their congregants with material pumped out from Hollywood’s sewers, lives are kept in bondage, and people’s souls are neglected," according to Wenzel, who said he was e-mailed information about the movie.

Scott, the Baltimore pastor, said he knows that Warner Bros. Studios has a financial incentive in pushing the film to pastors.

But he said that’s fine with him. “They’re using us but in fact we’re using them,” he said.

His church won't show clips from the movie this weekend because it had already planned out its service. But he plans to use them later, during meetings with the church’s men’s group.

“If you give me another opportunity to talk to someone about Jesus Christ, and I can do that because of your movie, that’s a win for me, because it is about spreading the Gospel.”

CNN's Erin McPike contributed to this report.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Belief • Celebrity • Christianity • Church • Entertainment • Media • Movies

soundoff (6,545 Responses)
  1. scootfl78

    Crap, I thought this was going to be a good and decent movie and now we're being told its religious propaganda.

    June 16, 2013 at 7:10 pm |
    • Mart

      thats religion for you taking other people stories and claiming them as their own for the last 2000 years

      June 16, 2013 at 8:49 pm |
  2. Peter

    The only real difference between Jesus and Superman is that Sups would never intentionally not save someone, and he would never ask anyone for anything in exchange for saving them. Superman is actually selfless, unlike Jesus.

    June 16, 2013 at 7:09 pm |
  3. Colin

    We're pretty much getting to the point where only the ignorant, the stupid, the weak and the uneducated believe in sky-fairies any more. The gods will never disappear entirely, but we should be pretty soon at the point where only the lowest echelons of intellectual development still believe in them.

    As long as we get to the point where they have zero political power (fast approaching) they can pray, bob, bow and chant to their sillt superst.itions all the ywant. Actually, it is good for a lot of them ,as it brings comfort to otherwise drab lives.

    June 16, 2013 at 6:55 pm |
    • Ken

      They're not stupid, just childishly trusting of authority figures who don't really know any more than they do.

      June 16, 2013 at 7:01 pm |
    • Keattis

      @Colin
      Brainwashing is brainwashing. It does not require knowledge or insight or intelligence or anything.
      It has been used by brutally stupid and ignorant people throughout history.
      You think it will all go away, but you have no good reason to do so.
      All it takes is a breathing individual with no lower limit on IQ to fall prey to brainwashing.
      But to realize that religion is a lie, you cannot be brainwashed to think otherwise beforehand or it will never happen.
      Use game theory to see how likely it is to see religion become extinct under our actual conditions and you will realize, I hope, your mistake in thinking anything of the sort.

      June 16, 2013 at 7:05 pm |
    • tallulah13

      I disagree. There are very rational people who believe in a god-like presence for their own (generally emotional) reasons. These are the people who understand the flaws of their beliefs, but can't help but believe anyway.

      The believers you commented on are the ones who try to use their emotional experiences, along with misrepresentation of facts, as proof that their god exists.

      June 16, 2013 at 7:33 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      tallulah13, just admit that some of us have to live in truth, why other folks live in denial of lies.

      June 16, 2013 at 7:53 pm |
    • nameless

      Funny how even in the movie, no one would have believed that Clark was Kel-El until Zod showed up. It was a fairy tale until proven real. Professing to be wise, they became fools, rejecting the one who made them... Do your due diligence and learn the full biblical story before you think your too smart to need God. If you have rejected His attempt to reach you after a full obejctive review, then you alone will stand before Him to give an account. He has said to all his creation – Call on Me with a pure heart of belief, and I WILL ANSWER YOU. Our apparent foolishness is actually our badge of honor.

      June 16, 2013 at 7:55 pm |
    • The real Tom

      HS brays: "tallulah13, just admit that some of us have to live in truth, why other folks live in denial of lies."

      Oooh, no ego there, HS. "Some of us" as opposed to "all the rest of you."

      My word, you're an obnoxious ass.

      June 16, 2013 at 7:56 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Backing up Lies again I see Tom.

      Psalms 10:4

      The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek [after God]: God [is] not in all his thoughts.

      01363   //  hbg  //  gobahh   //  go'-bah  // 
      from   01361  ; TWOT – 305b; n m
      AV – height 9, high 3, pride 2, excellency 1, haughty 1, loftiness 1; 17
      1) height, exaltation
      1a) height
      1b) exaltation, grandeur
      1c) haughtiness

      June 16, 2013 at 8:12 pm |
    • dshipp17

      Great post nameless; but for those who are so smart, here's your chance to deal a deadly blow to Christianity and win $10,000 at the same time http://www.newser.com/story/165107/creationist-10k-to-anyone-who-can-disprove-genesis.html; so far, no takers.

      June 16, 2013 at 8:13 pm |
    • jonnybbig

      2 quick examples. So I guess CS Lewis and Francis Collins were pretty stupid. Oh wait one was one of the smartest people who ever lived and one headed the human genome project (physician and molecular biologist). Too bad they were brainwashed, oh wait ...They were both raised atheists and converted after seeking the Truth through science and philosophy. You should move to North Korea and worship Kim Jong Un. Then you could touch him, feel him, and have your visual proof of your GOD without actually having to study and figure anything out by yourself.

      June 16, 2013 at 8:46 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      jonnybbig, why brag about the lost?

      June 16, 2013 at 9:59 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Colin: HS is the second sort of christian. The delusional kind. She also thinks she's a kangaroo.

      June 17, 2013 at 1:12 am |
    • HeavenSent

      tallulah13, not to worry. I know I'm not a kangaroo. Why do you claim it is love when allowing friends/loved ones to live in denial .... all the way to the eternal flames? That sin of pride sure blinds.

      June 18, 2013 at 11:39 am |
    • Cpt. Obvious

      CS Lewis was NOT raised atheist and Crick does not advocate a personal god like the one Christians and other believers cling to, so those two examples are just fine by me.

      When are Christians going to be honest instead of lying?
      Why isn't god belief a branch of science?

      June 18, 2013 at 11:49 am |
  4. Txjew

    Brilliant marketing. Also interesting example of how any biography can be tweaked to reflect a set of religious beliefs. Very instructive.

    June 16, 2013 at 6:46 pm |
  5. us_1776

    Religion is disappearing faster than snow on the summers day.

    No wonder they are trying to call in Superman.

    Pathetic in so many ways.

    .

    June 16, 2013 at 6:14 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      You may be in sinking in the quicksand of denial, but, the rest of us are standing on firm ground of His truth trying to give you a helping hand that you slap away.

      June 16, 2013 at 7:55 pm |
    • The real Tom

      You're a disease, HS.

      June 16, 2013 at 7:57 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Tom, you should never go away angry. Just go away.

      June 16, 2013 at 8:14 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Why? Do I bother you? Good. I'll stick around to see what else I can do to stick it up your ass.

      June 16, 2013 at 10:03 pm |
    • G to the T

      HS – if you're god's "helping hand" that he chooses very poor tools to do his bidding...

      June 17, 2013 at 2:44 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Tom, Jesus' truth is, you're lost too as you deny His truth and twist and contort scriptures for those that are lost that happen to stroke your prideful self. Oh, who cares if they go to the eternal flames, as long as they stroke your ego right here and now. Talk about pathetic.

      June 18, 2013 at 11:46 am |
  6. Justin

    @ Colin

    "overall percentage of people who believe in a god – 90%
    percentage of people who graduated high school who believe in a god – 80%
    percentage of college graduates who believ in a god -68%
    percentage of science post-graduates who believe in a god – 20%
    percentage of elite, practicing scientists who believe in a god – 7%

    Why is it that, the less educated about the universe a person is the more likely they believe in God. Would we not expect the opposite if he were true?"
    --------------------------–

    Even if those statistics are real and not made up (which I'm pretty sure they are, to make your bs statistics look "real" don't stick with 90%/80%/20%, throw in a 33%, or 41%) Your premis is already flawed in two ways.

    First, the idea that education is proportionate to ones intelligence is false. Education is more often then not simply the ability to learn, retain, spit out knowledge, then forget it to learn new knowledge. I've seen idiots with their masters and doctorates who ammount to being bartenders while I as a high school drop out rank among the top 1% earners of America. (something achieved through my own ability and intelligence, not inherited or stolen)

    The second flaw is that education in most first world nations do little or nothing to explore theology, in most cases its not even addressed, so It would make sense for people exposed to only one side to beleive only one side.

    Lastly, blind faith in science is no better then blind faith in religion. There hasn't been a scientist in our history that wasn't wrong about something, and theories are constantly being debunked, or updated based on new and more accurate test results. The ideal that we can know everything today, is as ignorant as a cave man who would beleive the earth is all that exists.

    To paraphrase Sir Francis Bacon, the creator of the scientific method, a little bit of philosophy will bring a mans mind about to atheism, an abundance of philosophy brings a mans mind back to religion.

    June 16, 2013 at 6:05 pm |
    • M

      If the facts are true, they do make sense. As for yourself, there are always what we call deviations from the norm, and you would fall within that. College isn't for everyone.

      June 16, 2013 at 6:08 pm |
    • Keattis

      @Justin
      For a self-proclaimed ignoramus, you actually prove Colin correct with your words. Thanks for stopping by.

      June 16, 2013 at 6:21 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Unbelievers live in denial enforcing everyone to do so too. If I believed I was born a kangaroo, lived my life as a kangaroo, insisted everyone consider me a kangaroo and demanded respect that my ego tells me I'm a kangaroo, will NEVER make it true.

      June 16, 2013 at 6:31 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      I was a high school dropout myself, Justin. Small, world, but there is value in education. I left high school to pursue degrees in mathematics and, somewhat later, molecular biology and neuroscience. It is unlikely that your income matches mine, if that's important to you. I think it's more important that I've heard some of the best minds on the planet relate their best and most carefully cultured thoughts on the origins of the Universe, life, and us – why we think, how we think, and why we think the things we do. All of that tells me, and almost everyone I'm in contact with in my professional life have similar opinions on this, that the religions of unconsidered acceptance of unfounded claims are most likely false, and can only be true in claims they may make of which no one can know the truth. If an education is still available to you, Justin, it's the most valuable thing in the world and I'd encourage you to go for it.

      June 16, 2013 at 6:38 pm |
    • midwest rail

      Marsupials are brighter than you, and never lie.

      June 16, 2013 at 6:38 pm |
    • Colin

      The statistics are accurae (as accurate as they can ever be). the broader point cannot rationally be disputed. Religion, by its nature is predicated upon making up stories about life after death in the total absence of evidence.

      June 16, 2013 at 6:48 pm |
    • Ken

      HS
      Do creationists just refuse to see any similarity between themselves and other apes? For me, it's the elevation of yourself above all other living creatures that's the real expression of inflated ego. How can seeing yourself as really no better than other creatures be an ego trip? As usual, Christians project their own faults on everyone else.

      June 16, 2013 at 6:56 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Tom, Tom, the Other One, do some of those (cough) best minds know why unbelievers live in denial?

      June 16, 2013 at 6:57 pm |
    • Keattis

      The thing about science is that it requires skepticism, not blind faith, as well as logic and the scientific method to arrive at any conclusion.
      Religion, on the other hand, requires blind acceptance and never allows free speech or questions or skepticism in any way.
      Nobody has blind faith in science. All of it is always open to review as well as skepticism and questioning and further analysis.
      Religion shows how it is a lie by refusing anything that threatens the lie. Not the same thing at all.
      You are using a false equivalency between a religious ideology that uses proven lies and science, which uses only verified facts and honest truth.
      Justin, your ignorance is so pathetic. You are probably getting your money using fraud or some other criminal method, too.
      Liars like you are a dime a thousand. Nobody needs people like you. You should just kill yourself.

      June 16, 2013 at 6:58 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Ken, the inflated ego belongs to your group that lives in denial.. Christians that follow Jesus' truth learn to stay humble.

      Unbelievers live in denial enforcing everyone to do so too. IF I believed I was born a kangaroo, lived my life as a kangaroo, insisted everyone consider me a kangaroo and demanded respect that my ego tells me I'm a kangaroo, living a lie will NEVER make it true.

      June 16, 2013 at 7:02 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      I'm glad you're coming around, HeavenSent. Coming to believe that you can enjoy eternal life with the unconditional love of your God and Saviour, living your life believing that it is so, and surrounding yourself with people who believe approximately the same thing and reassure you that it is so will never make it true. It is either true or it's not. You have no way of knowing if it is true.

      June 16, 2013 at 7:32 pm |
    • The real Tom

      I guess heaven will be quite lonely. After all, no one will be there but Jeebus and HS.

      What a dull thought.

      June 16, 2013 at 7:54 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      The real Tom, it's easy to believe in satan's lies, then you pay for it.

      June 16, 2013 at 7:59 pm |
    • Ken

      HS
      You are seriously messed up, dude!

      June 16, 2013 at 11:53 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Ken, it's easy to follow satan's lies. You don't have to do anything but believe the promises that he'll break.. When I post Jesus' truth, if it's foreign to you means, get off your duff and learn it. You've got work to do to save your soul.

      June 18, 2013 at 11:53 am |
  7. Chris

    I like science and religion

    June 16, 2013 at 6:02 pm |
    • M

      More please....

      June 16, 2013 at 6:04 pm |
    • Peter

      But, like antidepressants and alcohol, it's best you don't mix them because it may lead to really scrambling your mind.

      June 16, 2013 at 6:37 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Peter, are you another one that must live in denial? Those that don't live in denial can enjoy both science proving Jesus Christ's truth and the Savior in His glory of righteous awesomeness.

      June 16, 2013 at 8:23 pm |
  8. Mike R

    The greatest story ever told, once again, goes through another change of skin. Or suit in this case. A couple thousand years from now, under the rubbles of history, humans will find Superman scriptures and illustrations and they will believe that he was real, worshipped being, until he gave his life for humanity. That part of the story is yet to be retold.

    June 16, 2013 at 6:00 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Same applies here,

      Unbelievers live in denial enforcing everyone to do so too. If I believed I was born a kangaroo, lived my life as a kangaroo, insisted everyone consider me a kangaroo and demanded respect that my ego tells me I'm a kangaroo, will NEVER make it true.

      June 16, 2013 at 6:33 pm |
    • Keattis

      You guys are insane.
      HS giving the exact reasons why religion is BS yet pretending that "unbelievers" are the ones denying reality, and Mike thinking his imaginary daddy will save him from being so stupid and insane.
      Hypocrisy and irony, together again.

      June 16, 2013 at 6:43 pm |
    • TimothyP

      I still have my Gospel comic books. Jesus is, of course, super white and tall in them, kinda like Sups.

      June 16, 2013 at 6:48 pm |
    • Ken

      HeavenSent
      Is it any more ridiculous to think that you are a created being with no relationship at all to primates? Do you even think of yourself as a mammal, or a vertebrate? You do have a backbone, right?

      June 16, 2013 at 6:51 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Ken, I consider myself a 6th day creation, as were all souls born to women.

      June 16, 2013 at 7:38 pm |
    • Science

      Hey HS the is a sole on the shoe.

      Or this will work HS..............just got back from the shack in the woods with 4 new chondrites I found for fathers day !

      You know the stuff that grows green slim.

      June 16, 2013 at 7:45 pm |
    • Science

      Oops ......there

      June 16, 2013 at 7:47 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      science, the river is called the Nile, not d'nile.

      June 16, 2013 at 8:01 pm |
    • Science

      Hey HS

      It is called the Mississippi...... and lake Superior is where the 1900 million year old algae fossils where found.

      June 16, 2013 at 8:14 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Science, I'm glad scientists are uncovering Jesus Christ's truth. Jesus told us there are 3 earth and 3 heaven ages, scientists are proving His truth of the first earth age.

      June 16, 2013 at 8:18 pm |
    • Science

      Hey HS .................just a stale fruitcake from xmas past.

      And no angels HS

      June 16, 2013 at 9:12 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      science, don't leave angry. Just make like a tree and leave.

      June 16, 2013 at 9:18 pm |
    • Science

      Did you bring this with you HS ?................you know what was it back then the devil ?

      Medieval Leprosy Genomes Shed Light On Disease's History

      June 13, 2013 — An international team of scientists reconstructed a dozen medieval and modern leprosy genomes

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/06/130613142653.htm

      June 16, 2013 at 9:50 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Matthew 11:5

      The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them.

      Amen.

      June 16, 2013 at 10:03 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Oh, nonsense, HS. If any of that sh!t were true then you wouldn't still be a steaming pile of manure here on earth.

      June 16, 2013 at 10:06 pm |
    • Damocles

      @hs

      Yes, the first five things you mention have happened.... through science.

      June 16, 2013 at 10:10 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Hey HS! If jeebus did all that, why did the Schaibles' children die?

      June 16, 2013 at 10:11 pm |
  9. faith

    yawn

    nite nite girls

    sorry, u put me to sleep. try harder

    June 16, 2013 at 5:50 pm |
    • tony

      Perhaps if you stopped using science's internet and posting, you'd get better results by two using a prayer relay?

      June 16, 2013 at 6:11 pm |
  10. devin

    Ultimately, this all comes down to presuppositions. The anti- theism crowd embraces their rationalism and sense of reasoning as the sole determining factor of truth. The Christians, we conclude that there is a source outside the natural order that has caused our being and created this universe, and does not always operate according to our human rational thought. And never the twain shall meet.

    June 16, 2013 at 5:49 pm |
    • Keattis

      @devin
      Spoken like a true idiot suffering from schizophrenia. Yes, your imaginary nonsense will never become real. You're right.

      June 16, 2013 at 6:26 pm |
    • tony

      "And never the twain shall meet". Well that's an amazing conclusion. And from what or whom?

      Is that the Science evidence, that there is an impossible barrier to cross, or the faith saying the magic will dodge out of the way as scientific exploration expands?

      June 16, 2013 at 6:31 pm |
    • devin

      Fascinating how it frequently gravitates towards ad hominem attacks.

      June 16, 2013 at 7:57 pm |
  11. faith

    try not spliting infinitives, girls

    June 16, 2013 at 5:49 pm |
  12. faith

    no one has found inconsistencies in the entire account god left for us. never. nothing.
    amazing

    June 16, 2013 at 5:46 pm |
    • tony

      Why did god have to place a fog to hide the Israelites, when he was able to instead kill their Egyptian Army pursuers the next day?

      Come on @faith. This should be easy for you. Even if it wasn't easy for god.

      June 16, 2013 at 5:52 pm |
    • Trace

      Tony, faith will ignore you. This is faith's mo. Faith will say things like "I can debate anyone", and then run away from a direct question, saying "nobody has the answer. Yawn." Faith is the worst kind of Christian: the one who constantly belittles others while refusing to answer any question or defend Christianity by giving a rational explanation.
      In other words, a Christian troll. Trolling for Jesus while lying about other people. A Holy Terror, as it were.

      June 16, 2013 at 5:59 pm |
    • tony

      I know, but the more that happens, the less his credibility gets.

      June 16, 2013 at 6:19 pm |
  13. Colin

    Can a Christian please help me? I am having trouble distinguishing the third example of circular reasoning from the first two. Perhaps you can explain the difference.

    “I believe Obama is a great man because his biography says so, and the reason I believe his biography is that it is about Obama, who is a great man.”

    “I believe David Koresh was a wise and great prophet because the Branch Davidians wrote a book saying he is. I believe that book because it was inspired by David Koresh, a wise and great prophet.”

    “I believe God exists because it says so in the Bible. I believe the Bible because it is the inspired word of God.”

    June 16, 2013 at 5:45 pm |
    • devin

      The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Your logical fallacy not withstanding.

      June 16, 2013 at 5:53 pm |
    • Homeschool Mom in AZ

      For many of us, it's not because the Bible says so, but because we've have experiences that line up with what the Bible says about who God is and what He is like and how He interacts with us. By the way, keep asking that question. It's very important. We have way too many people sitting in church pews who have lots of intellectual understanding of what the Bible says, but they have never experienced God in a real way so Christianity is just a tradition or custom or external behaviors for them. For them it's not a dynamic, internally transforming relationship with Jesus Himself that grows over time. Reading about it and conforming to outward appearances is completely different than being changed on the inside and from that internal conviction, changes pour out in ways the Bible says they will.

      June 16, 2013 at 6:16 pm |
    • tony

      It's that so many of those experiences are often just as explainable by statistics, but are remembered, while the bad ones are ignored or forgotten, even by the same people, that is the problem for thinkers.

      For example, how many Oklahomans praised god for being spared in the recent Tornado, while ignoring that obvious that it was the same god that killed others. Or of course it was all just random physics.

      June 16, 2013 at 6:27 pm |
    • Keattis

      I see the zombies shuffling around under your post, Colin. They are like walking advertisements for brainwashing.

      June 16, 2013 at 6:29 pm |
  14. faith

    they do what the pharisees did when jesus repudiated everything they said and did. they went ballistic, frenetic, they spazzed out

    June 16, 2013 at 5:45 pm |
    • tony

      You got proof of that?

      June 16, 2013 at 5:46 pm |
  15. faith

    i was hopin somebody would make it exciting. NO THING. ZERO. ZILCH, NADA, NOT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE PROVING JESUS CHRIST ISN'T WHO THE NEW TESTAMENT SAYS HE IS. sorry girls

    June 16, 2013 at 5:42 pm |
    • tony

      Nope. Clearly you can't listen, read OR count!

      June 16, 2013 at 5:43 pm |
  16. faith

    looky thar. nothin. not one speck of disproof. not bad. they stopped tryin. can't blame em. nothins thar.

    June 16, 2013 at 5:40 pm |
    • Colin

      I pinted out half a dozen direct inconsistencies between the various gospels, which you chose to ignore. One or both must be wrong.

      June 16, 2013 at 5:42 pm |
    • tony

      You are supposed to not talk over people answering you.

      Either that or you can't count either.

      June 16, 2013 at 5:42 pm |
  17. faith

    anyone? last chance. no proof the new testament isn't god's word.

    June 16, 2013 at 5:37 pm |
    • Colin

      anyone, last chance to prove Alice didn't go to Wonderland....

      June 16, 2013 at 5:40 pm |
    • tony

      The OT proves that god is almost powerless.

      NT -" Oh God, Why hast thou forsaken me?" JC himself apparently, but this is of course translations.

      June 16, 2013 at 5:41 pm |
  18. john

    I just saw the movie and I didn't see a heavy Christian tilt to it. clark kent consults with a priest for about 60 seconds, big deal.

    June 16, 2013 at 5:33 pm |
    • Keattis

      Why should a superman need to talk to anyone, much less a schizophrenic criminal fraud wearing a dress?
      They should be blacklisted for putting things like that in the movie. We don't need more religious crap with Muslims and Christians going around murdering innocent people because of their religious schizophrenia.

      June 16, 2013 at 6:49 pm |
  19. Justyn Kase

    Only Jesus can change lives for the better, I'm prove of that. All it takes is repentance of sin and allowing Jesus to enter in.

    June 16, 2013 at 5:32 pm |
    • tony

      We'll all just stop having educations and developing the economy then.

      June 16, 2013 at 5:34 pm |
    • tallulah13

      You don't need religion to have a happy, productive life. I am living proof of that. Respect for others, your planet and yourself is key.

      June 16, 2013 at 5:36 pm |
    • Trace

      "I'm prove of that." Proof it.

      June 16, 2013 at 5:43 pm |
    • Drivenb4u

      Dude the only thing you are proof of is that Christians have consistently lousy grammar

      June 16, 2013 at 5:45 pm |
  20. Joseph Bleaux

    How utterly stupid. The only comparison between Superman and any religious figure is that they are both works of fiction.

    June 16, 2013 at 5:30 pm |
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