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June 14th, 2013
04:05 PM ET

Superman: Flying to a church near you

By Eric Marrapodi, Co-Editor CNN Belief Blog

Baltimore, Maryland (CNN) - As the new Superman movie takes flight this weekend, filmmakers are hoping the Man of Steel lands not only in theaters, but also in pulpits.

Warner Bros. Studios is aggressively marketing "Man of Steel" to Christian pastors, inviting them to early screenings, creating Father’s Day discussion guides and producing special film trailers that focus on the faith-friendly angles of the movie.

The movie studio even asked a theologian to provide sermon notes for pastors who want to preach about Superman on Sunday. Titled “Jesus: The Original Superhero,” the notes run nine pages.

“How might the story of Superman awaken our passion for the greatest hero who ever lived and died and rose again?” the sermon notes ask.

(Disclaimer: CNN, like Warner Bros., is owned by Time Warner.)

Similar campaigns to corral the country's large number of Christians into the movie theater have been used for "Les Miserables," "Soul Surfer" and "The Blind Side," all of which had at least some faith angle.

Baltimore pastor Quentin Scott is among dozens of ministers who received an e-mail invitation from Grace Hill Media, a Hollywood-based Christian marketing firm, to an early screening of “Man of Steel.”

“There was an actual push to say `We’re putting out something that speaks to your group,' ” said Scott, one of the pastors of Shiloh Christian Community Church in Baltimore.

At first, Scott said, he didn’t buy the religious pitch. Then he decided to attend a free midweek screening in Baltimore.

“When I sat and listened to the movie I actually saw it was the story of Christ, and the love of God was weaved into the story," said the pastor.

"It was something I was very excited about that with the consultation of our senior pastor, we could use in our congregation.”

CNN Entertainment: 'Man of Steel' director Zack Snyder on Superman's Christ-like parallels

Grace Hill’s sermon notes are specially designed for churches like Shiloh that integrate multimedia into their services.

“Let’s take a look at the trailer for `Man of Steel,’” the notes suggest after briefly introducing the movie’s history and themes.

The man behind the notes, Pepperdine University professor Craig Detweiler, has prepared similar material for films like 2009’s "The Blind Side" and "The Book of Eli" from 2010.

The spiritual themes in “Man of Steel” are abundant, Detweiler said, and his notes enable Christians to thoughtfully engage with pop culture instead of shunning it.

“All too often, religious communities have been defined by what they're against. With a movie like `Man of Steel,’ this is a chance to celebrate a movie that affirms faith, sacrifice and service,” Detweiler said.

It will be hard for even casual Christians to miss the messianic metaphors in "Man of Steel.”

The movie focuses on the origins of Superman, who was sent from the planet Krypton as an infant to save his species.

He is raised by surrogate parents who help him grapple with his special powers, even though they don’t fully understand the source of his extraordinary abilities.

When he turns 33, Superman must willingly sacrifice himself to save the human race.

Sound familiar?

If that’s not enough, as a boy Clark Kent is shown wrestling with his superpowers, and asks his earthly dad, Jonathan Kent, “Did God do this to me?”

“Somewhere out there you have another father and he sent you here for a reason,” says Jonathan Kent.

Even the visuals hammer home the messianic motifs.

During a fight with his archenemy, General Zod, Superman plunges down to Earth, his arms outstretched as if he were being crucified. Of course, he rises again.

Detweiler writes in the sermon notes, “What Jesus and Superman both give us, through their `hero’ actions but also their `human’ actions – is hope.”

“I think it’s a very good thing that Hollywood is paying attention to the Christian marketplace,” said Ted Baehr, who runs Movieguide, a website that reviews family friendly films from a Christian perspective.

“Where it gets sticky is when they try to manipulate the market and when Christians try to manipulate Hollywood. But here I think we have the right balance.”

But other Christians are heaving a supersized sigh at the movie marketing.

"Any pastor who thinks using `Man of Steel Ministry Resources' is a good Sunday morning strategy must have no concept of how high the stakes are, or very little confidence in the power of God’s word and God’s spirit," writes P.J. Wenzel, a deacon and Sunday School teacher at Dublin Baptist Church in Ohio.

"As they entertain their congregants with material pumped out from Hollywood’s sewers, lives are kept in bondage, and people’s souls are neglected," according to Wenzel, who said he was e-mailed information about the movie.

Scott, the Baltimore pastor, said he knows that Warner Bros. Studios has a financial incentive in pushing the film to pastors.

But he said that’s fine with him. “They’re using us but in fact we’re using them,” he said.

His church won't show clips from the movie this weekend because it had already planned out its service. But he plans to use them later, during meetings with the church’s men’s group.

“If you give me another opportunity to talk to someone about Jesus Christ, and I can do that because of your movie, that’s a win for me, because it is about spreading the Gospel.”

CNN's Erin McPike contributed to this report.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Belief • Celebrity • Christianity • Church • Entertainment • Media • Movies

soundoff (6,545 Responses)
  1. faith

    tom tom the lil moron, she luvs adolf, 2

    all them fascists do

    June 17, 2013 at 6:41 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Oh? And just what is a "fascist", filth? Do you even have a clue?

      June 17, 2013 at 6:44 pm |
  2. faith

    capt idiot nos the story. she lovs hitler

    June 17, 2013 at 6:40 pm |
  3. faith

    c their evidence the new testament ain't true?

    nobody else has neither lol
    haahahahaha

    i'm dying here thammbo. u r such a complete idiot lol

    June 17, 2013 at 6:38 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      Should you not be getting back to your room now? I'm sure the nurses will be around shortly to give you your evening meds....ask them if they have any of those cool beds with the restraints on them and if they say yes, ask to try one out.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:41 pm |
  4. faith

    I live on a big blue ball
    I never did dream I would fall
    But even the day that I do
    I'll jump off and smile back at you

    We don't even know where we are
    They say that we're circling a star
    But I'll take their word, I don't know
    I'm dizzy so maybe that's so

    I'm riding a big blue ball
    And never did dream I would fall
    But even the highs must lay low
    When I do fall I'll be glad to go

    waylan jennings

    June 17, 2013 at 6:35 pm |
    • The real Tom

      It's WAYLON, you stupid cow.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:51 pm |
  5. faith

    dm murdock runs away like a girl

    June 17, 2013 at 6:30 pm |
  6. faith

    i think truth prevails

    June 17, 2013 at 6:30 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      I think you've drank far too much of the magi kool aid. Time to put the bottle down, step away from the nurses station and return to your nicely padded room now.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:38 pm |
  7. faith

    NUTHIN

    June 17, 2013 at 6:29 pm |
  8. faith

    that is zero thammbo. u no, as in ur IQ

    June 17, 2013 at 6:28 pm |
  9. faith

    can thambo spell 0? lol

    June 17, 2013 at 6:26 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      faithy: Got a crush on Sam? I'm only asking because you seem very fixated on him and that's not normal. Austin will be very jealous if he finds this out.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:29 pm |
  10. Common Sense

    I'll be praying for all of you. Please take a chance and leave your religion of atheism. What do you have to lose? For starters, your soul. Stop pretending. Stop being AFRAID. Believe in Jesus, and He WILL redeem you.

    There is a reason why people generally shun atheists. We as a society shun evil by nature. It's part of our conscience. God gave that to us. We know to stay away from people that touch kids, people that kill, people that worship satan and we know to shun atheists. Why? Because they are evil.

    Hitler was an atheists, and so was Stalin. They practically destroyed our wonderful planet all in the name of their religion of atheism. Is that what you want your children to grow up around? I don't. Children need to be raised with strong Christian values. Prayer needs to be brought back into school and led daily by administrators. Students RESPECT strong Christian leaders. With that we can rebuild our foundation of morality in this Christian nation.

    June 17, 2013 at 6:18 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      You're just sounding crazier by the post but you need to be corrected on the issue of Hitler. Hitler never denounced his belief in god.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:26 pm |
    • Cpt. Obvious

      Hitler was a Christian; atheism is not a religion. Start making some sense and I'll consider what you have to say.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:27 pm |
    • Akira

      Error: Hitler was NOT an atheist.

      Reposted: original post by Doc Vestibule

      "Said leaders did not wave a flag of atheism around which to rally their people.
      While they sought to eliminate traditional religions from their kingdoms, they did so in order to divert the common man’s fervor to their own cults of personality.
      While Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot etc. put themselves into the Godhead position, Hitler publically professed his Christianity until his dying day and used Christian arguments to whip his people into a frenzy. This is why Nazi uniform belt buckles were emblazoned with the slogan “Gott mit uns” (God is with us).
      Pol Pot spent 8 years at a Catholic school in Phnom Penh, Hitler attended a Benedictine Cloister and Stalin passed 5 years at a Russian orthodox seminary. Historians have noted their speaking and writing styles ape those of the Church in being ‘declamatory and repet.itive, with liturgical overtones”.
      Each of these leaders wielded their people’s predilection for faith like a weapon. Atheism is not the prime cause for these tragic regimes – the misdirection of faith is.
      Like religion, they demanded blind obedience and obsequious submission from their followers. They tolerated no free-thinkers and enforced dogmatism – things they learned during their religious educations.

      “I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of
      the Almighty Creator.”

      [Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 46]"

      June 17, 2013 at 6:30 pm |
    • Secular Humanist from Ohio

      Hitler was a member of the RCC until his death, as were most of his top advisers, Goebbels was excommunicated from the church, not for crimes against humanity but for marrying a protestant. And you are making such ignorant statements you should quit now.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:32 pm |
    • Common Sense

      Akira, have you heard of confirmation bias? I see atheists kicking this term around like a wet turd all the time. It would appear that you are doing exactly what all of you enjoy accusing Christians of.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:34 pm |
    • Colin

      "We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out." Adolf Hitler, Speech in Berlin, October 24, 1933

      "Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith ...we need believing people." Adolf Hitler, April 26, 1933

      And on Feburary 1, 1933 Hitler delivered a speech in which he promised to restore "family...honor and loyalty, Volk and Vaterland, culture and economy" and recover "the eternal foundation of our morality and our faith." Hitler further declares a "merciless war against spiritual, political, and cultural nihilism."

      June 17, 2013 at 6:35 pm |
    • Colin

      Hey Common Sense, do you ever feel silly baisng your belief on a religion that thinks the entire World was created less than 10,000 years ago with one man, one woman and a talking snake?

      June 17, 2013 at 6:36 pm |
    • Common Sense

      I enjoy how atheists regurgitate quotes without ever validating their sources. Let me guess, you get all of your information from memes at /r/atheism.

      Well, before the mods kicked in those new rules forcing you all to act like adults.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:38 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Oh, right Common Senseless, because believers NEVER use quotes or post links to sources without vetting them first.

      Please.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:40 pm |
    • Colin

      Actually, Hitler wa well known as a Christian. He fostered this view because Germany of the 1930s was very, very Christian. No political leader gets very far unless he is of the same religion as the majority of the public. This is not even contraversial. I suggest you read a little about Hitler and Germany pre-WW II.

      Claiming Hitler was an atheist is as ridiculous as claiming George Bush was a Buddhist.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:43 pm |
    • Secular Humanist from Ohio

      Common sense can read something beside the bible?

      June 17, 2013 at 6:44 pm |
    • fred

      Colin
      At least get the basics straight. God created the world in 6 days and rested on the 7th.
      Atheists amaze me in how loud and clear our self evident creator is yet how easily they become distracted by the smallest of deceptions.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:53 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Deceptions?? You're claiming that people who don't believe in creationism are deceived? What an idiot.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:57 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      How many posts or how much time until Uncommon Senseless starts attacking gays? I've forgotten where that is on the christian "rant & rave while foaming at the mouth" agenda. . .

      June 17, 2013 at 6:57 pm |
    • Colin

      fred – your post makes so little sense that I cannot even figure out whaich post of mine you are responding to.

      June 17, 2013 at 7:01 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      fred, if your creator is self evident, why can't you or any other believer produce any evidence for it?

      June 17, 2013 at 7:01 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      At the risk of appearing to understand fred (I don't as he is a mentally ill delusional) I think fred is saying that the creation of everything in 6 days is more basically correct that everything being created 10,000 years ago with one man, one woman (from the man's rib, we shouldn't forget) and a talking serpent. But I sure fred will sort us out. . .

      June 17, 2013 at 7:06 pm |
    • David

      fred, much like many other deluded Christians, find nothing wrong with this logic: I think, therefore He is.

      To them this somehow makes sense.

      June 17, 2013 at 7:08 pm |
    • fred

      Tom Tom
      You are deceived. You think the world is as you see it because you doubt the Word of God. It really is very simply.
      Even Colin remains fixated on Adam, Eve and the Serpent yet does not understand what the attraction is.

      Here is the deception from the Serpent: "Did God really say you must not eat from any tree in the Garden?" You like Eve Doubt the Word of God which leads to life outside the presence of God. Not that complicated?

      In 6 days God created the heavens and the earth and rested on the 7th. Look around Tom and take note that the 7 day week remains to this day the international standard. No tell me your deception that the Word of God is not Divine.

      June 17, 2013 at 7:09 pm |
    • fred

      Colin
      Sorry, I was texting and driving....you said: "Hey Common Sense, do you ever feel silly baisng your belief on a religion that thinks the entire World was created less than 10,000 years ago with one man, one woman and a talking snake?"

      =>The Bible does not give a time certain as to the date of creation for the earth or Adam and Eve. Given the serpent was most likely symbolic chances are Adam and Eve were also symbolic given the picture language of the early oral traditions from the Hebrew. What makes the Bible Divine is it really does not matter if this was figurative or not because the meaning is the same to the nomadic tribes of 10,000 years ago as it is today and will be tomorrow.

      I referenced the 7 day cycle because it ties with Exodus and the Bible as a whole regarding the period of creation whereas 10,000 years is time period contrived by man not the Bible.

      June 17, 2013 at 7:21 pm |
    • The real Tom

      OHHHH! Gee, now I get it! The fact that we use a 7-day week is proof of creationism!!!

      Gosh, ferd turd, how can I EVER thank you for that INSIGHT!!

      June 17, 2013 at 7:24 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      Is anyone else imagining a bunch of goat herders sitting around a fire writing The Babble saying "And we need to have create everything in 7 days, well ok 6 days and a day of rest, 'cause no one will be able to argue that's not a sign of divinity." Hard to imagine, so i guess The Babble is true!

      June 17, 2013 at 7:32 pm |
    • fred

      Tom Tom
      Glad I could help !
      You see God could have created a 5 day week or any number but 7 is the number when God rested from His work and said it is very Good. This number has great biblical significance but for atheists it is significant because you cannot get around how Gods word remains central to who we are even though we have forgotten whose we are.

      It is the Serpents voice that says did God really do that? See Tom, there are only two possibilities. Either all we know was created by the Word of God or it was not by Gods Word. Doubting the Word of God leaves you in the reality Adam and Eve found themselves (outside of the presence of God). This is why you cannot see God.

      June 17, 2013 at 7:42 pm |
    • fred

      HotAirAce
      Seven times God States that what He created was "good'. Each part completed His purpose for creation. Seven was not just a number that was "added" by goat herders.
      You still don't get it. You see the world from the word of the serpent not the word of God. How does that escape you? All the godless stuff you say a post regarding our existence is not from the word of God. What God created remains good and in the end good and evil (that from the word of serpent) will be separated as it was when Adam and Eve only heard the Word of God and did not doubt.

      June 17, 2013 at 8:49 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Freddy, honey, you're approaching the intelligence of a houseplant. The number of days in a week is about as significant as your pal Austin's ABOVE GROUND POOL.

      You keep attempting to do what you cannot: show me that I need a god to explain the universe, to be moral, or to be happy.

      Let me know when you achieve any of the above.

      June 17, 2013 at 8:52 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      fred, you would be perfectly correct, if only you could prove that your alleged god exists. Of course, you and all others have failed spectacularly at providing any real (factual, independent, verifiable, objective) evidence, ever. Therefore it is highly likely that you are mentally ill, or just a liar. In either case, no one should believe anything you say concerning your imaginary friend(s). But please do continue to entertain us with your silliness.

      June 17, 2013 at 9:13 pm |
  11. The Matrix of Good and Bad

    MORPHEUS: Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix of Good and Bad is. You have to see it for yourself.

    NEO: How?

    MORPHEUS: Hold out your hands.

    In Neo's right hand, Morpheus drops a red apple.

    MORPHEUS: This is your last chance. After this, there is no going back.

    In his left, a blue sugar pill.

    MORPHEUS: You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your garden and you believe whatever you want to believe.

    The pill and the apple in his open hands are reflected in the glasses.

    MORPHEUS: You take the red apple and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes.

    Neo feels the smooth skin of the apple, with the moisture growing in his palms.

    MORPHEUS: Remember that all I am offering is the truth. Nothing more.

    Neo opens his mouth and takes a big juicy bite of the red apple.

    The Cheshire smile returns.

    June 17, 2013 at 6:10 pm |
  12. Austin

    Peter

    "Austin
    Where's your proof that you wrote these things down first?"
    RIGHT HERE

    You're only asking people to take you at your word. Go, find some impartial people, or maybe a notery and have them authenticate your predictions first, and then have some people authenticate what you think happens afterward that fulfills these predictions and get back to us.

    THATS A GOOD IDEA AND MAYBE IT WOULD WORK, THE THING WAS, I WAS NEVER PREDICTING ANYTHING. I DIDN'T THINK MUCH ABOUT THESE DREAMS UNTIL I REALIZED WHAT WAS HAPPENING, as in later re reading the dreams, did i realized the deep connection.

    If you can't do that, and all you have is your take on these dreams of yours, then be prepared to come up against a lot of skepticism. How else can you demonstrate to others that this isn't all just in your head, maybe just the forewarnings of some psychotic break from reality?

    First let me point out that I can never expect for this to happen again. Who can I expect something from for a sign? It was not me that caused sheldon to have a blueprint, scott to loose his money, or Danny Mahon to come up and tell me his dream, which was what i was thinking about him the night before............I was wondering if he and the kids mocking me had the light in their eyes, and he woke up and walked up to me and said "hey i had this crazy dream i was going around to see if people were posessed by looking into their eyes to see if there is a special light" ect......................this happened like ten times in 3 months. every one of the things was tied in to the bible.

    Im saying it was the spirit revealing the truth of Gods' word, through His word. supernaturally bearing the truth of God's word with sovereign power.

    He provides faith. Jehovah Jireh

    June 17, 2013 at 5:55 pm |
    • midwest rail

      " Where's your proof ? "
      " Right here. I say so. "
      Yeah, ok, I'll buy that.

      June 17, 2013 at 5:58 pm |
    • Science

      How many kitties come with Austin ?

      June 17, 2013 at 6:00 pm |
    • Secular Humanist from Ohio

      Ever heard of confirmation bias?

      June 17, 2013 at 6:02 pm |
    • Common Sense

      There would be no atheists without the existence of conformation bias. How many of you atheists here are scientists? Yet you enjoy regurgitating what you read on the internet as facts.

      "I BELIEVE IN SCIENCE."

      Well, what scientific studies have you conducted to validate your claims? None? Then how can you argue against God? You don't even bother to seek out evidence for yourself. You just base all of your ideas and beliefs off of what someone else told you. Then you attack Christians for believing in the Bible.

      Atheists = Confirmation Bias Kings.

      And just so you know, atheism IS a religion.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:07 pm |
    • Secular Humanist from Ohio

      Common sense

      Planes fly
      Cars drive
      Computers compute
      Medicine cures
      It works – b!tches.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:11 pm |
    • David

      Not once in all of poor Austins rambling has he ever explained what his prophecies meant other than that he thought they were prophetic in some way. With Joseph you have a meaning behind God taking the time to show Pharoah visions of skinny cows representing a future famine. What does your vision of a dead cat represent? Apparently a dead cat. Every one of your "visions" is like that, they mean absolutely nothing, not even to the parties involved. It's like having a vision of a blue day the night before and the next day its blue, then having a vision of a foggy day the night before and the next day it's foggy. But what the fvck does it mean? Is it God trying to tell you to become a weather man?

      June 17, 2013 at 6:16 pm |
    • Peter

      Austin
      I asked "Where's your proof that you wrote these things down first?"

      And you respond "RIGHT HERE"

      Ah, ... right where?

      I know that you think this was something special you were experiencing, but everyone dreams weird stuff fairly often, so that's a pretty big pool to draw similarities from. How do you know that this stuff was just coincidence?

      June 17, 2013 at 6:23 pm |
    • Peter

      Common Sense
      There would be no atheists without the existence of conformation bias. How many of you atheists here are scientists? Yet you enjoy regurgitating what you read on the internet as facts.

      "I BELIEVE IN SCIENCE."

      Well, what scientific studies have you conducted to validate your claims? None? Then how can you argue against God? You don't even bother to seek out evidence for yourself. You just base all of your ideas and beliefs off of what someone else told you. Then you attack Christians for believing in the Bible.

      Atheists = Confirmation Bias Kings.

      And just so you know, atheism IS a religion.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:25 pm |
    • The real Tom

      What a friggin' nutcase you are, Austintasia. As noted, you don't even have any idea what sort of "message" your GAWD was sending you, do you? What in the world does it matter if you had a dream about a dead cat or an ABOVE GROUND POOL? If you can't figure out what the significance of these dreams was, you are simply assuming there is some.

      You are a fvcktard, Austin. You think people are going to think you had some sort of vision when you don't even have the balls to post your most recent dreams? What a cowardly little wuss.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:26 pm |
    • The real Tom

      It is simply laughable that Austintasia thinks the GAWD was sending a message to him through dreams but he has no clue what any of the "messages" are. Not only that, he can't figure out why he's being asked to describe his RECENT dreams so that we can all read about them NOW, before any subsequent occurrence could possibly be related.

      I really think Austin is lying about all of it. It's nothing but a fabrication.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:33 pm |
    • Peter

      Common Sense
      😳  Clicked "post" before I could begin answering that.

      "Atheism is a religion as abstinence is a se xual position" Bill Maher

      The rest of your comment was a prime example of what apologists like to do often, and that is to project their own weaknesses upon their opponents. Basic propaganda technique.

      BTW, I taught high school physics and chem. for 32 years before retiring in 2008, so I come by my confidence in science honestly, as do a lot of people here I imagine. Also, if you've ever taken science at an actual high school then you ought to know that confirmation bias is something that the scientific method aims to prevent. I therefore find your name ironic, because nothing you've said is actually common sense.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:40 pm |
    • Science

      Austin is full of BS

      3-D printers# really cool science no red horn-y devil needed...............I have one.

      3-D printing artificial bone.

      http://phys.org/news/2013-06-d-artificial-bone.html

      June 17, 2013 at 6:44 pm |
    • Austin

      3D Printers are proof that evolution is bogus and that all the dinosaur bones were fakes because Satan used a 3D printer to make bones of creatures that never existed and placed them in faked deposits to fool mankind.

      June 17, 2013 at 7:02 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      Austin, on which day of your Babble's creation myth did the invisible being you call Satan create those bones and how did he position them without your alleged god noticing? Before you answer, remember there were no evil atheists then to carry out your boogeyman's orders. And how many kittens died for you to acquire this "knowledge"?

      June 17, 2013 at 7:13 pm |
    • G to the T

      Hey Austin! Started up that psychic hotline yet?

      June 18, 2013 at 12:17 pm |
  13. Science

    Rotten eggs too thought it was the old chicken coop of Grandpas we pushed into the swamp !

    http://phys.org/news/2013-04-feast-clue-ancient-earth.html

    http://beforeitsnews.com/science-and-technology/2013/04/tiny-1900-million-year-old-fossils-from-rocks-around-lake-superior-canada-2581584.html

    June 17, 2013 at 5:45 pm |
  14. Common Sense

    The wicked FEAR the Word of God.

    It is all written in the Word. You may choose to ignore it if you wish, but it is a big mistake. The Word was given to us for guidance. It is a terrible shame to see so many atheists that are so afraid of it that they reject it altogether. Why do atheists FEAR the Word of God? Because they KNOW that it is the TRUTH. They twist its words and pretend as though it is a fairy tale. This is akin to covering your eyes and thinking your entire body is hidden from view. But the TRUTH is that you aren't hidden, just as the Word of God is not hidden just because you are so afraid of it that you pretend it means nothing. Jesus came to redeem us. Accept TRUTH and stop living in FEAR.

    June 17, 2013 at 5:39 pm |
    • The wicked FEAR of the Word of God.

      So true.

      June 17, 2013 at 5:44 pm |
    • Common Cents

      It is all written in the Koran. You may choose to ignore it if you wish, but it is a big mistake. The Koran was given to us for guidance. It is a terrible shame to see so many christians that are so afraid of it that they reject it altogether. Why do christians FEAR the Word of God? Because they KNOW that it is the TRUTH.

      June 17, 2013 at 5:46 pm |
    • Common Sense

      Sorry, but the koran is wrong. The koran is an addition to the Bible, something the Bible forbids.

      June 17, 2013 at 5:53 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      Your god is a pussy...

      June 17, 2013 at 5:56 pm |
    • Common Sense

      Another loving atheist comes along to show off how he doesn't need morality....

      June 17, 2013 at 6:03 pm |
    • One one

      According to the myth, Jesus is "saving" us from the curse of eternal torture in hell that HE put upon all mankind because, in the beginning, two people wanted knowledge. So what he is doing is agreeing to not torture us forever. But only if we agree to worship him. I just don't see that as a very gracious gift.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:04 pm |
    • Secular Humanist from Ohio

      One one

      It's coercion.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:07 pm |
    • One one

      Is it "moral" for the "sins" of the guilty to be absolved by punishing the innocent ? What sort of lesson in morality is this ?

      June 17, 2013 at 6:08 pm |
    • Tess

      Common Sense/Cents, Wicked: nonsense. Atheists aren't afraid of what they don't believe to exist any more than you believe Santa Claus really says "Ho ho ho." Stop postulating on something you have absolutely no knowledge of, because you don't have a clue, and you look ignorant even trying.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:09 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      Another stupid christian running their mouth about their useless god and their subjective morality...

      June 17, 2013 at 6:11 pm |
    • Common Sense

      One, great to see you copying and pasting a comment I already responded to. Absolutely genius. Perhaps you'll REALLY get back at Jesus now.

      To restate what I responded to previously, the disobedience was the precursor to the punishment, not the want of knowledge. Adam and Even did not know what knowledge was. They only knew that they were not to disobey God, and they did it anyway.

      Do you get angry at your parents for punishing you for something you did wrong? Kick a kitten in the ribs and get mad at your parents after it dies, bleeding from the mouth because they grounded you? Sound reasonable? No.

      You obey your mommy and daddy. You do as you are told.

      When you get older, this will make sense to you.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:11 pm |
    • One one

      This is what atheists fear:

      "It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so."
      Robert A. Heinlein

      June 17, 2013 at 6:14 pm |
    • One one

      Actually, if my parents committed all future generations of mankind to eternal torture in hell I would get very angry with them. But apparently, you find such punishment for disobeying a command perfectly acceptable. That speaks volumes about you.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:19 pm |
    • Common Sense

      You are incorrect.

      Atheists fear being held accountable for their actions.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:20 pm |
    • Common Sense

      You don't know me. You only know what your atheist parents have told you to believe. You have been taught to be afraid. You have been taught to ignore consequence and to judge anyone that is willing to be held accountable for their own actions. Your beliefs are what have been destroying society.

      "It's someone else's fault." -The anthem of the atheists.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:23 pm |
    • Colin

      Hey Common sense, a quick question. If you are worried that your children, who you love very much, will not believe something you tell them, such as "smoking is bad for you," would you:

      (a) have your family doctor explain to them the various ill effects of smoking;

      (b) show them a film produced by the National Inst.itute for Health on the topic;

      (c) set a good example for them by not smoking; or

      (d) refuse to give them any evidence of the ill effects of smoking, insist that they rely entirely on faith and then take them out into the backyard and burn them to death if you ever catch them smoking?

      As a follow up question, what would you think of an “all loving” father who chose option (d)?

      June 17, 2013 at 6:24 pm |
    • One one

      Don't be so glib. You may one day find Muslims, who are as certain in their beliefs as you, taking over and demanding your obedience to Islam.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:25 pm |
    • Colin

      "it's some else's fault- the anthem of the atheists." I tought you blamed all the woes of mankind on Adam and Eve, a couple who any child who has listened in sixth grade science knows never existed. Am I wrong?

      June 17, 2013 at 6:27 pm |
    • One one

      WOW ! You say "you don't know me". But you sure claim to know me.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:28 pm |
    • Colin

      Out of all the silly superst.itious beliefs of poorly educated Christians like Common Sense, I think the myth of hell is my favorite.

      Think it through. I don't have to kill, I don't have to steal, hell, I don't even have to litter. All I have to do is have a reasonable, honest and rational disbelief in the Christian god and he will inflict a grotesque penalty upon me an infinite times worse than the death penalty. And he loves me.

      Let's subject this "cherished Christian doctrine" to the probing light of say.......fifth grade mathematics.

      Approximately one hundred and ten thousand million (110,000,000,000) people have lived on Earth. Given all those who have, over the centuries, rejected the Christian god, or who have otherwise committed mortal sins, there must be literally thousands of millions of people burning for all eternity in the cosmic oven of hell set up by their all-loving god. Some must have been burning for thousands of years by now.

      About 100,000 people die every day. There must be a constant stream of thousands of forlorn souls every day into the one way pit of hell their “all-merciful” god set up and maintains.

      But, far, far worse than sheer overwhelming numbers is the extent of the punishment. There is no way out, no parole, no time off for good behavior. You don’t just burn, you burn for all eternity. Billions of people and thousands of daily new arrivals burning for all eternity!

      No criminal justice system in the history of the Human race, even those established by the most despotic of tyrants, comes close to matching the unfathomable barbarity of their “infinitely benevolent” god.

      Hitler murdered six million Jews in his concentration camps, but compared to the Judeo-Christian god, Hitler was a bleeding-hearted wimp. A goose-stepping girlie-man. Their “all-caring” god not only burns billions more than Hitler, Pol Pot and all other dictators and tyrants added up, he keeps doing so to them for all eternity! I would not wish a bad sunburn on a person simply because they have a different religion to me, let alone fry them for all eternity.

      It is also odd that their all-loving god is also all-knowing and knows which souls will go to hell before they do. He even knows it before they are born, and yet he still creates them. He is worse than a psychopathic teenager than breeds litter after litter of kittens so he can slowly roast them in ovens.

      That is the problem with using the same deity to be both the carrot and the stick. It gets really silly really quickly.

      A quick hint Common Sense, you might like to change your name......

      June 17, 2013 at 6:31 pm |
    • Common Sense

      Hitler was an atheist.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:36 pm |
    • One one

      Once again, you are wrong. Atheists, like everyone else, are held accountable for their actions by our legal system of justice. And unlike bible justice, it's actually real and can be verified to exist. Bible "justice", on the other hand, is a myth, no one knows if justice has really been served.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:36 pm |
    • One one

      "Hitler was an atheist".

      Wrong AGAIN: "I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator."

      – Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 2

      You have hit the bottom of your barrel. You are done.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:41 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Uncommonly Senseless says: "Atheists fear being held accountable for their actions."

      This is one of the stupidest statements anybody could post. Why would atheists "fear" consequences when they don't believe there are any outside this mortal life, you idiot?

      June 17, 2013 at 6:42 pm |
    • Len

      Not "afraid" of the word of God, just terribly, terribly unimpressed by it.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:43 pm |
    • Simon Weissel

      Hitler died pitifully praying to his Christian God that he had worked so hard for. His Catholic Heritage was an essential part of his becoming the Fuhrer.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:45 pm |
    • Len

      CS
      You can argue that Hitler wasn't a very good Christian, but he was still one. Interesting as it is, Hitler learned his anti-Semitism from Martin Luther, the founder of protestantism. Care to argue that that guy wasn't a "real Christian"?

      Not "afraid" of the word of God, just terribly, terribly unimpressed by it.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:48 pm |
    • Len

      CS

      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNN-M4wMbT4&w=640&h=390]

      June 17, 2013 at 6:49 pm |
    • Akira

      "You don’t know me. You only know what your atheist parents have told you to believe. You have been taught to be afraid. You have been taught to ignore consequence and to judge anyone that is willing to be held accountable for their own actions. Your beliefs are what have been destroying society.

      “It’s someone else’s fault.” -The anthem of the atheist "

      This whole post is full of sweeping generalizations; I have never met an atheist who is anything of the sort.
      I have met, however, quite a few Christians who are genuinely afraid of God, which seems counter-productive to a message of love.

      I’m waiting to hear a valid reason not to take every person we meet as an individual instead of as a representative of a group; this whole post paints atheists in a light that is not only patently absurd, but a flat out lie; perhaps Common truly believes this, but I would have to ask him how many atheists he has actually *met*.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:52 pm |
    • One one

      @len, this video speaks volumes. Great find.

      June 17, 2013 at 7:45 pm |
    • god's word says

      And Moses said unto them “Have ye saved all the women alive?... Now therefore Kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known a man by lying with him, but all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves” Num 31:1-2, 9-11, 14-18

      June 17, 2013 at 7:49 pm |
  15. Reality

    Only for the new readers of this blog:

    JC = Superman? Give us a break !!

    Actually, Jesus was a bit "touched" and any super powers were only in his head. After all he thought he spoke to Satan, thought he changed water into wine, thought he raised Lazarus from the dead etc. In today's world, said Jesus would be declared legally insane.

    Or did P, M, M, L and J simply make him into a first century superman via their epistles and gospels of semi-fiction? Most contemporary NT experts after thorough analyses of all the scriptures go with the latter magic-man conclusion with J's gospels being mostly fiction.

    Obviously, today's followers of Paul et al's superman are also a bit on the super odd side believing in all the Christian mumbo jumbo about bodies resurrecting, and exorcisms, and miracles, and "magic-man atonement, and infallible, old, European/Utah white men, and 24/7 body/blood sacrifices followed by consumption of said sacrifices. Yummy!!!!

    So why do we really care what a first century CE, illiterate, long-dead, preacher man would like or dislike, bless or curse, do or not do?

    JC = Superman?? Give us a break!!!
    ==========================================================================================
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    June 17, 2013 at 5:32 pm |
  16. Common Sense

    Superman DOES exist. His true name is Jesus Christ and he came to Earth to save us all.

    June 17, 2013 at 5:10 pm |
    • Athy

      Common sense, that's common nonsense.

      June 17, 2013 at 5:16 pm |
    • Reality

      Ditto that common nonsense comment. And why is that?

      The Apostles'/Agnostics’ Creed 2013: (updated by yours truly and based on the studies of historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

      Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
      and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
      human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven??

      I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
      preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
      named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
      girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

      Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
      the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

      He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
      a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
      Jerusalem.

      Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
      many semi-fiction writers. A descent into Hell, a bodily resurrection
      and ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
      Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
      grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
      and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
      called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

      Amen
      (references used are available upon request)

      June 17, 2013 at 5:20 pm |
    • Common Sense

      Athy, thank you for such a warm, thought-provoking response. I'm glad I'm not in your shoes.

      June 17, 2013 at 5:26 pm |
    • Reality

      And what shoes might that be? The shoes going to Hell for not believing in all that Christian mumbo-jumbo? Get your head out of the bible !!!

      June 17, 2013 at 5:30 pm |
    • One one

      Save us from what ?

      June 17, 2013 at 5:31 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      If you liked Athy's (very correct) response then you will love "Fuck off with your stupid unsupported myths!"

      June 17, 2013 at 5:33 pm |
    • Common Sense

      To save us of course.

      Hot Air, I will not tolerate your rude statements.

      June 17, 2013 at 5:38 pm |
    • One one

      According to the myth, he is "saving" us from the curse of eternal torture in hell that HE put upon all mankind because, in the beginning, two people wanted knowledge. So what he is doing is agreeing to not torture us forever. But only if we agree to worship him. I just don't see that as much of a favor.

      June 17, 2013 at 5:48 pm |
    • Common Sense

      It wasn't knowledge that hurt us, it was the fact that humans disobeyed God.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:01 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      "humans disobeyed God"

      How does one disobey something that there is no evidence for the existence of? Do you disobey Santa by not being a good little child?

      June 17, 2013 at 6:04 pm |
    • Akira

      "une 17, 2013 at 5:10 pm
      Superman DOES exist. His true name is Jesus Christ and he came to Earth to save us all."

      http://www.cracked.com/article_20069_5-classic-superman-comics-that-prove-he-used-to-be-dick.html

      Check this out and come back and see if you think Superman still compares to Jesus. My guess would be that Jesus wouldn't like the comparison to this Superman.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:20 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      And I will not tolerate your stupid unfounded myths. Now Fuck Off!

      June 17, 2013 at 6:49 pm |
  17. A picture speaks a thousands words

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4tx36la5xo&w=640&h=390]

    June 17, 2013 at 4:58 pm |
    • Look Up

      One of GOD's little angels.

      June 17, 2013 at 5:13 pm |
    • Athy

      And your point is???

      June 17, 2013 at 5:15 pm |
    • Dippy

      Aren't angels always masculine?

      June 17, 2013 at 5:17 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      I think it is safe to assume she was indoctrinated into the dead jew zombie vampire cannibal death cult aka christianity at an early age, without her permission, by her parents. Too bad she wasn't given the opportunity to form her own opinion or select her favorite myth.

      June 17, 2013 at 5:18 pm |
    • Look Up

      A-THY

      I am shocked you asked.

      No point needed. Self explanatory.

      She is a gift from GOD Almighty.

      June 17, 2013 at 5:20 pm |
    • Secular Humanist from Ohio

      I love Charlotte Church – what an amazing voice!!!! Isn't evolution wonderful!

      June 17, 2013 at 5:57 pm |
    • The real Tom

      How do you know Charlotte Church believes what she sings about? Do you really think all singers do? Bonehead.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:28 pm |
  18. Science

    Chondrules = cool life....(freshly cut)....look up !

    Craetionists = 1900 million year old fossils by Lake Superior Canada side.

    June 17, 2013 at 4:48 pm |
  19. ReligionIsBS

    "I respect them. They are allowed to be in error. "

    Got to love the inept christians who dont understand why everyone else hates them.

    June 17, 2013 at 4:22 pm |
    • Look Up

      Strange, I use love. You use hate. Bullies hate. You are not a bully I hope? Where is your tolerance for Christians?

      We share the love of CHRIST. We don't hate you.

      You can reject it, Your call. Proclaim it if you like.
      Still going to love you as CHRIST loves you.

      June 17, 2013 at 4:44 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      Look Up: Feeling persecuted? You have no more evidence to support your god than we do not to....we just take it on the simple fact that due to lack of evidence there is no just reason to believe it. There are over 40000 different gods, it is purely arrogant of you to claim you have the right one! We're not the ones walking in to peoples lives telling them they can't be gay or have an abortion or have sex outside of marriage...it's not our business. It is you and your ilk that THINK that because you have a 2000 year old book that was written by man, inspired by man, you get to try to dictate how others live. You're wrong but you can think it...you're the one who looks foolish!

      June 17, 2013 at 4:53 pm |
    • derp

      "Still going to love you as CHRIST loves you"

      And I will still love you as Dumbledore loves you.

      June 17, 2013 at 5:11 pm |
    • ttwp

      The cross is foolishness to those who are perishing. They have become wise in their own eyes.

      June 17, 2013 at 6:11 pm |
  20. Look Up

    I just love non believers. Gives everyone a chance to read how they operate and think. And, what is great – I respect them. They are allowed to be in error.

    Just love you, and so does GOD.

    June 17, 2013 at 4:19 pm |
    • Colin

      I'll inform the the Hindus, Muslims, Jains, Jews, Buddhists and atheists they are all in error

      June 17, 2013 at 4:31 pm |
    • Richard Cranium

      Running away to start a new thread. Since you continue to post threads, but don't back anything up with anything of any value, you must be a troll.

      June 17, 2013 at 4:39 pm |
    • Look Up

      @Colin

      Next chance I get. Appreciate your support.

      June 17, 2013 at 4:39 pm |
    • Linus Van Pelt

      Look out.
      I just love non believers. Gives everyone a chance to read how they operate and think. And, what is great – I respect them. They are allowed to be in error.

      Just love you, and so does The Great Pumpkin

      see how silly it sounds?

      June 17, 2013 at 4:42 pm |
    • Look Up

      @Richard

      I didn't run away. Still here. My right to start a new thread. Are you the web master? Or a God to tell me I can't start a new thread?

      How dare you. I share the love of CHRIST and you only try to bully Christians. Quite small of you. Your arms are not long enough to box with GOD. Bully me, hate GOD, criticized JESUS – makes me want to share his love even more.

      Pick on someone your own size.

      June 17, 2013 at 4:49 pm |
    • Athy

      Atheist's don't hate god. We don't believe he exists. That simple concept seems to be way over your head, look up.

      June 17, 2013 at 4:54 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      Look Up: You're showing signs of the classic persecuted christian...it's entertaining in a weird way.

      June 17, 2013 at 4:57 pm |
    • Look Up

      @A-thy

      Presume, not assuming, you are an atheist. Good for you. God says, I rather you be hot or cold. But because you are lukewarm, I will vomit you out. At least you proclaim you are cold to God. Goodnews. He still loves you.

      We will see in the end, who's right.

      No god? Know GOD ? Know your fate.

      June 17, 2013 at 5:01 pm |
    • Richard Cranium

      The love of christ..funny.....He also offers hate and violence.
      Meek and mild Jesus, the harbinger of love, mercy, and turning the other cheek.

      Matthew 10:34-35
      "Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man's foes will be those of his own household."

      Matthew 13:49-50
      "So it will be at the close of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous, and throw them into the furnace of fire; there men will weep and gnash their teeth."

      Matthew 23:33
      "You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell?"

      June 17, 2013 at 5:11 pm |
    • derp

      These nutbag christards make religious people look far more stupid than any atheist ever could.

      Thanks!

      June 17, 2013 at 5:14 pm |
    • Look Up

      @Richard

      A man of GOD's word. A Bible study on line. Let me know when you get to john 3:16

      June 17, 2013 at 5:17 pm |
    • sam

      Yawn, another poe. C'mon.

      June 17, 2013 at 5:20 pm |
    • Look Up

      For Richard

      Ephesians 3. Entire chapter.

      Ephesians 4: 17 – 24

      Ephesians 5: 1 – 2

      June 17, 2013 at 5:26 pm |
    • Common Sense

      They are too foolish and arrogant to know they are in error. The signs prove that they are incorrect.

      Matthew 24.

      June 17, 2013 at 5:29 pm |
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